116. Installing pinless bladeholders in my 16" scroll saw
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2020
- In this video, I will show you how to install and use the E-Z Set Bladeholder System for 16" scroll saws. The scroll saw I am using is made by Central Machinery and sold through the Harbor Freight stores. With these new blade holders, I will be able to use both pinless and pin end scroll saw blades (the original holders only allow for pin end blades).
Being able to use pinless (flat or plain end) blades opens up more blade choices (there is a greater variety of pinless blades than pin end blades). The pinless blades also require a much smaller pilot hole when making inside cuts.
I have been using these holders for quite a while now and I like them. It took a little practice to get used to changing blades, but now it is 2nd nature and I can do it with my eyes closed! In the video, I deliberately went slowly so that you can see how the holders work and how to use them.
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Your so good at your instructions and showing all of the angles. Even I might be able to do this now.
Thanks. I tried to make the video as clear as possible by showing what I was doing. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Excellent Video! I watched at least three other videos on this subject and still didn't have a clue. Good explanation, excellent camera work. Thank you.
Thanks Art. I'm glad the video was helpful. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Thanks for the close ups. No other video does. Much appreciated
You're welcome. I'm glad you liked the video. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Great video...best ever!
Thank-you very much. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Simple instructions, and well explained. Thanks for taking the time and effort to make this video.
You're very welcome! I'm glad it was helpful. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Perfect. Great explanation/demonstration.
Thank-you. I'm glad it was helpful. If you haven't seen it already, I do have a scroll saw playlist. Here's a link if you are interested: czcams.com/play/PLGCBwUeR2BD0uF74gOBR3Lh0Mi9hNnA-x.html
Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Excellent video! Thank you, SIR....
You are welcome Norm. Being able to use pinless blades opens up all kinds of possibilities for the scroll saw. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Best how-to I've seen! You ought to teach a course in this. Mucho gracias
De nada. I'm glad the video was helpful. Check out my scroll saw playlist for some more videos. Maybe you'll like some of those. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
oops I'm thinking that should have been muchas gracias....too many eons from my Spanish class;)
Thank you.
You're welcome! Being able to use pinless blades opens up whole new possibilities when using a scroll saw.
Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Excellent, thanks so much for this video.
You're welcome. I'm glad the video was helpful. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Thank you, I just got my scroll saw and I was struggling with trying to figure out this problem. Thanks again!
You're welcome. I'm glad it helped. Enjoy the saw and thanks for watching.
Oh ! Thank you so much … I finally got it done thanks to your clear explanations. I tried about 6 months ago and came close to throwing it across my room but just put it away until now… Thank you!!!🙏
That's great! Welcome to the world of pinless blades. There are SOOOOO many more choices (which is both good and bad). Have fun exploring the different kinds of blades.
Thanks for your comment and for watching.
@@ImaginethenMake now to try to figure out how to mount the blade fixture to the table top flange, it says to mount it 1/4” down exactly but my lip is so narrow I’m just not positive, plus I don’t no what the purpose is for all the holes on the bottom of the fixture itself are for. And is it normal too have to really crank super hard on the lower blade holder clamp to get it to hold the blade? I would appreciate you even more if you could explain. Thank you from Idaho
As you saw in the video, I did not mount the block to my table top because the lip of the table is too narrow (like yours). Keep in mind that this kit is for several different scroll saws. The 16" Central Machinery scroll saw that I have has a thin, sheet metal table top with a narrow lip; I can't mount the block to that. That's why I use the vise you see in the video to hold the block. Using the vise was supposed to be my "temporary" solution but so far, I have not gotten around to working out something else more "permanent". As an alternative, maybe mount the block to a scrap piece of 2x4. (I think the extra holes in the block are there to give you more mounting options.)
I hope in the video you saw how tight I made the screws that hold the blade in the blade clamps. The screws are tight but only tightened by hand. Since the bottom of each screw is fairly flat, when it comes in contact with the flat scroll saw blade and gets tightened, it holds it in place very well. Take another look at the video and I think you'll see what I mean.
Happy Holidays from CT! Thanks for you questions and for watching.
I have the same scroll saw. Thank you
Note to self: proper tightness sound made by plucking blade at 1:25, hehe (bonus!). My bottom holder was cocked crooked. This helped me loosen and adjust it, thanks!
You're welcome Jeff. Thanks for the comment and for watching.
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Very good explanation , excellent video thanks a lot
You're very welcome. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Thanks for sharing that
You're welcome. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
You have to do this every time😊 you change a blade? They should have made it like a sewing machine lol
Hi Julie. I'm not sure I understand what you are referring to. After I installed the new blade holders, I am then able to install EITHER a flat end OR a pin end blade in the saw. Which blade type I select depends on the project I'm working on. Being able to easily install either type of blade gives me many more blade choices that I didn't have before doing this install. I hope I answered your question.
Thanks for watching.
Very good video. I already ordered and should have soon. Just a question on the wing but. Did you attach it with the new screw that came with the kit or did you make it yourself? Thanks
The wing nut and all of the screws came in the kit I purchased. When you go to install it, use this video as a reference to guide you through the install. If you have any questions, feel free to post them here. I read every comment and always reply (although sometimes it might might take me a couple of days to get back to you).
Thanks for your question and for watching.
@@ImaginethenMake Thank you !!
Will this work for using spiral blades? I've been learning with those. Thanks for the video and the response.
Yes! One of the big reasons I opted to install these different blade clamps was to specifically try spiral blades. In fact, I have a few videos about using spiral blades on my channel.
Thanks for your question and for watching.
great video! but where do you get those other pieces to change to pinless? Got mine at harbor freight but they weren't in the box
To answer your question, I purchased new blade clamps for my scroll saw. These new blade clamps include an upper and lower part and replaces the original clamps that came with the saw. Within the first minute of the video, I show where I purchased these new blade clamps and in the video description, I left a link to where you can buy similar clamps online.
Being able to use both pin end and flat end blades is really great and opens up so many other possibilities while using the saw.
Thanks for your comment and for watching.
This is a SUPER good video! I finally understand how that EZ blade system works! One question, though. Once you install this adapter, can you ONLY use the pinless blades? If I want to use pin-end blades, do I have to uninstall this system, and reinstall the parts that came with the saw?
Thanks Connie. No, you do not need to uninstall the system to use pin end blades. Re watch the video and pay particular attention starting at 10:07. Be sure to watch all of the way to the end of the video.
Thanks for your question and for watching.
@@ImaginethenMake Thank you very much! I guess I should make sure I watch the WHOLE video next time! You do a great job with these videos- you cover everything we need!
Thanks again Connie.
Great video! Is there a current link for the blade holder? I know this video is a little old now but the link in the description goes to a dead Amazon link. It suggested an alternative blade holder , "OLSON SAW AC49610 Scroll Saw Blade Conversion Kit"
Is that the same one ?
I just looked on Amazon, and the "Olson Saw AC49610 Scroll Saw Blade Conversion Kit" appears to be unavailable at this time. However, scrolling down the page, I saw another conversion kit called "Scroll Saw Blades Holders Clamps Conversion Kit". It is difficult to tell from the pictures, but it might work. The great thing about Amazon is that you be able to return the kit if it doesn't work with your saw. Hope this helps.
Thanks for your question and for watching.
Thanks for this great Vid. Can you tell me if the new lower blade holder with the blk rubber piece came with the scroll saw? or did it come with the upgrade accessories?
I purchased replacement blade holders, the stock ones didn't work with pinless blades. When I purchased the blade holders, the lower blade holder included the rubber piece. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Amigo, any chance you can tell me where I can get/purchase the lower blade holder and the rubber piece?
The link to Amazon is in the video description. Here it is again for your convenience: amzn.to/3kdzdxT .
I purchased the Olsen version of this adapter for my central machine and none of the caps would fit. It actually wound up breaking (the adapter). Was very disappointed. Hopefully this adapter won’t cause a problem for me once I get it
Sorry to hear you have had difficulties with the new blade clamps. Feel free to email me at ImagineThenMAKE@gmail.com if you want to discuss this more; I'd like to help if I can.
Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Is that the attachment that comes with the saw, or you bought it separately? Also can you use round blades with this saw?
Hi Julie. The blade holders (clamps) you saw me install were purchased separately. See the link in the video description for more info.
By "round blades" I'm assuming you mean spiral blades. Spiral blades are flat end (plain end) blades. These new blade holders I installed are designed to hold BOTH plain (flat) end blades AND pin end blades. Actually, I installed these new holders so I could try using spiral blades since the original holders that came with the saw ONLY could hold pin end blades.
For more info from me about spiral blades (and other scroll saw related stuff), take a look at my scroll saw playlist here: czcams.com/play/PLGCBwUeR2BD0uF74gOBR3Lh0Mi9hNnA-x.html
Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Where do you purchase the conversion kit for flat end blades?
In the video description, there is a link to Amazon showing the blade holders for flat end blades. I just checked the link and it looks like those are currently unavailable but if you scroll down the page, you'll find some other similar holders. Be sure to check the specs to make sure the holders you choose will fit your saw.
Thanks for your question and for watching.
Where do you get the pinless blade adapter from?
There is an Amazon link in the video description.
Thanks for your question and for watching.
Where did you buy the new parts
Within the first minute of the video, I show where I purchased these new blade clamps and in the video description, I left a link to where you can buy similar clamps online.
Being able to use both pin end and flat end blades is really great and opens up so many other possibilities while using the saw.
Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Good video, but when I looked at reviews for this product on Amazon, there quite a few bad reviews for folks that had the Harbor Freight Scroll saw, as I do. Have you had any of the issues mentioned in the Amazon reviews? Just curious... Don't want to spend $30 and not be happy with the product... Thanks.
Thanks for your question. Take another look at my video. Within the 1st minute, I show you who I bought my blade adaptors from. Here's a link to their website: www.pozsgaidesigns.com/page0006.htm . The Amazon link shows blade adaptors very similar to the one I bought. Some people prefer purchasing from Amazon because it is easy to do a return if you are not satisfied (FYI: you can do a free return to Amazon at your local Staples store.)
Maybe I got lucky, but I have been very happy with the blade holders I bought. I originally bought them so I could try out using some spiral blades (which are pinless blades). Since installing them, I mostly use pinless blades now because there is a HUGE selection available. However, I still sometimes want to use a wide flat pinned blade so it is really nice to go back and forth between blade types; the switch over time is a couple minutes at most.
I think it is worth noting that installing a flat blade is significantly different than installing a pinned blade. The pins in the pinned blade rest in the holder the same way every time. Since the flat blade doesn't have any pins it can be positioned in slightly different spots. A little practice and you'll come to know what I mean. Here's another video that demonstrates what I mean: czcams.com/video/phlTMNvvUXQ/video.htmlsi=nCt2f81agTfBbS1F .
Thanks again for your question and for watching.
@@ImaginethenMake K, thanks for your help. I went to the Amazon link you provided in your notes above. I'll check out this link you provided. Do you have the Central Machinery model 62519? That's what I have. Again, thanks for your help.
My saw is ITEM 93012.
If you click the Amazon link in the video description and scroll down until you find the Product Description section in Amazon, it says "This kit converts most 16" scroll saws to accept both plain end and pin end blades! Easy to Install. Designed for use on these 16" scroll saws: Sears Models 23611 & 23612; Ryobi Model SC 160; Dremel Models 1671 & 1695; Skill Model 3330-3335; Central Machinert Models S 5909, 62519, 93012; Northern Hydraulics Model SS16; AMT Models 4601 & 4602; Reliant Models DD66 & DD67; HAFCO B-18V; Einhell TH-405E; Proxxon Micromot DSH-2; Record SS-16V; Shop Fox W1713-16; Scheppach Models SD1600, 240VS; Deco 405, 88002123; Rikon Model 10-600VS; Grizzly Go563 VS-16”; Wen 3920-3921. Contains all hardware and tools for installation."
Notice that both of our saws are listed.
Great video, man. Has anyone had luck installing these on a ryobi scrollsaw? I'm curious enough to give it a shot
Hi Shannon. I'm glad you liked the video. In the video description, there is a link to Amazon. When I clicked that link and scrolled down to the Product Description section, it says the blade holder fits a Ryobi Model SC 160. If this is the model scroll saw you have, then I recommend giving these blade holders a try.
Thanks for your your question and for watching.
PS: I don't know what kinds of projects you are making using your scroll saw, but I did want to mention that the 8-point and 7-point stars I made were done just using the scroll saw, a sanding block, a drill, and some glue. I made videos about each one so please check them out if you like. I made the 8-point first and while making it came up for the idea for the 7-point. In the end, I think the 7-point looks pretty cool and is a lot more 3D than the 8-point.
I bought my scroll saw about 2 years ago now and just followed the instructions. It told me to insert the blade with the teeth facing UPWARDS. Needless to say, I did struggle for a while until a friend popped round and told me to ignore that and turn the blade so the teeth face DOWNWARDS. Bloody hell, what a difference.
Why do some manufacturers say to have the blade with the teeth facing UPWARDS. I have come across 2 manufacturers that give that advice in their assembly instructions. I just don't understand why. Any ideas.
You got me with that one Cliff. What kind of scroll saw do you have and who manufactured it?
I have no idea why the manufacture of a scroll saw would recommend to install the blade with the teeth pointing upwards. Could it be a language translation error? I'm wondering if the saw is made overseas and the original manual is written in a language other than English, maybe when the manual got translated to English, "down" became "up"? Not sure.
There are some scroll saw blades called reverse tooth blades where the last few teeth at the bottom of the blade are pointing upwards. But most of the teeth are pointed down. In this recent video of mine, I show this; here's the link if you are interested: czcams.com/video/Xlo1KHVKxgQ/video.html
Please feel free to share any of my videos via social media, email, or text. Thanks for your question and for watching.
But the pinless blades are 2cm shorter!?
I don't think it should fit.
Or does your scroll saw have that much range?
Hi Max. My scroll saw takes 5" long scroll saw blades. Pinless and pinned scroll saw blades are both 5" long. Is it possible that you are comparing a pin end coping saw blade to a scroll saw blade? Coping saw blades are about 6" long I believe and look very similar to pin end scroll saw blades (except they are longer). Hope this helps.
Thanks for your question and for watching.
@@ImaginethenMake oh, could be that my Ferm scroll saw was made for that!
Hi Max. I looked on the Ferm website ( ferm-diy.com/en/scroll-saw-120w.html ) and it looks like this scroll saw uses pin end scroll saw blades. I checked the Accessories page ( ferm-diy.com/en/accessories/sawing-accessories.html ) and looked at a couple of the scroll saw blades offered. They are pin end blades. The number of teeth is stated but the length of the blade is not stated. Interesting. I'm assuming that this saw uses standard 5" pin end scroll saw blades.
I also downloaded the manual for the Ferm scroll saw ( ferm-diy.com/en/amfile/file/download/file/112/product/6112/ ) and I see that they also include adaptors for using pinless blades (see page 4 of the manual). Do your adaptors match what is shown in the manual?
In the manual page 5, it says that the blade length is 125mm which is 4.921 inches.
If you are missing the pinless blade adaptors, that might explain why the pinless blades seem too short.
Hope this helps.
@@ImaginethenMake I will take a look at these links.
But I think mine was made for longer blades. I do have something to lock pinless blades but they don't shorten the distance.
OK. Hopefully the pictures in the manual will be helpful to you.
Good luck.
Okay that's how to install it but this video doesn't show the problem trying to load the blade when it's sticking through a 2 inch thick project piece of timber for internal cutting;; I can tell you it is very frustrating and trying to re-insert the round insert plate is almost impossible and you really need to leave the bottom cover plate off to make it a easier to place the lower clamp in place; This is a slight improvement over the supplied clamp mechanism but don't confuse this product with a quick release clamp because that it isn't by a long shot. My comments is in relation to installing a pinless blade and not the pin type. The pin type are realtively easy to install in the holder but the pin blade has severe restrictions on what you can do on a scroll saw. Would I buy it? Yes I would because anything is better than the crap that comes with these cheaper machines. I have one of these machines in which I only use it for pin blades and hava a DeWalt for pinless blades. If you arae going to be a serious scrollsaw user then pinless blades are the blades to use and for this you need a good machine and unfortunately they are quite expensive.
Hi John. I agree, pinless blades are the way to go; there are many more choices for pinless blades than for pin end blades. I do still use pin end blades on occasion though.
I think the thickest piece I have ever tried to cut through on a scroll saw has been a 1.5" thick 2x4 scrap piece. I was able to cut it but it was slow going. Plus, I was making an external cut (not internal) and I was using a pin end blade. Here's a link to that video if you are interested: czcams.com/video/fzkflN8jeyg/video.html . I cut the 2x4 at 23:22.
If I were to try and make an internal cut on that same piece of 1.5" think scrap, I can see how fishing the blade up through the bottom could get frustrating. I would probably redesign my insert plate to make it easier to remove and install without having to fish the blade through that as well. Maybe I'll make a video about that (thanks for the idea!).
Thanks for your comment and for watching.
@@ImaginethenMake Thanks for responding to my comments; I will watch your video you suggest.
Thank you.
You're welcome Tom. These 2 videos might also be helpful: czcams.com/video/phlTMNvvUXQ/video.html , czcams.com/video/jx60VYTmIfI/video.html . Thanks for watching.