How to Measure & Adjust Motorcycle Rear Suspension| Works on All Bikes
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- 0:00 Intro
1:50 The theory Preload & Damping
3:14 Preload Adjustment & Why it is Important
4:23 Sag
5:33 Types of Sag
6:16 Equipment Needed
6:58 1st Measurement Ext Sag
7:08 Measurements-2 Point The Setup
9:05 2nd Measurement Race Sag
14:16 The Calculations
15:20 Adjusting by Increasing Preload
16:32 Repeat the Measurement & Adjust
17:30 Damping Force Adjustment
18:52 Damping Force Adjuster & Indications
20:24 Set Damping Force Adjuster to Default
22:33 Few Things to Consider
22:55 Thanks & Ride Safe
Another episode of my Dr Vstrom video series, where the complete adjustment of a motorcycle rear suspension is demonstrated. This is a request of many subscribers & demonstrates at a 3rd generation, Vstrom 650 model but the steps are applicable to any other motorcycle.
Therefore the video review is useful for all motorcycles.
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Since I bought my Vstrom, your content has really been helpful and very precise. Whatever gives you the strength to be consistent with these videos, may it keep you going!
Thanks so much :)
You are my hero. Your old oil change video gave me the confidence a while back to work on my own bike. Thank you so much
Glad to hear this, Thank you very much.
I was like, why you need 20min to set up a spring… now I know.
Thnx man!! I realy needed this!
No its not 20 to setup, its to explain to people who are not used to do technical work and do not have the confidence. Thanks :)
Another great diagnostic appointment for our continued health and wellbeing, thank you Doc 🙏
Ride safe ✌
Thanks :) ride safe as well
Please never stop doing these videos. Are really well explained and useful for all the Strommers out there!!! Thanks so much!
Thanks :)
This is a very concise and clear explanation of adjustment and settings. I can now measure and set up my bike for my 82kg mass + clothing + Givi Trekker topbox and contents.
Thank you for the excellent video! 👍
Thank you so much for your comment. Ride safe, always.
Great to see you back. This is by far your best video! I'll be giving this a go. Thanks!
Thanks Steven
Another excellent video. And your assistant was brilliant! Thank you.
Thanks Nick :)
After 2 years with mu Vstrom, now I understand.! Thanks!!
Thank you
Excellent video. You are very knowledgeable and explain everything very well.
Thank you very much :)
Excelente video. Aqui no Brasil é quase impossível achar conteudo com essa qualidade. Obrigado. Ja vou ajustar o sag da minha v strom!
Obrigado, thanks so much and ride safe.
dude, you're doing a great job. thank you!
Thankssss :)
Great video. Very well explained. Thank you.
Thank you
Thank you for posting. Very well made!!!
Thank you :)
Thanks Dr.
Great instructional video 👍
Thank you :)
Excellent video sir, thanks for the upload.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you very much for this!
Thanks :)
Thanks for the great guidance!
Thank you :)
thanks for the mention, another great video keep up the good work
No problem 👍
When did he mention you?
@@flippy66 about year ago ??
ottimo video, continua così. grazie.
Grazie :)
Subtitles are now avalaible
Thanks for advice
So nice of you
I would like to give a like for your beautiful assistant. ✌🏻
Great topic!
Thank you :)
Excelent. Very well detailed.
Excellent!!! You explained the concept so clearly and simply, demonstration was easy to follow. Most videos go very technical without really showing how it can be done by normal people. Great. And many thanks.
P. S. - Can you pls explain the Damping concept/principle.
Glad it was helpful! I ll do that in one of my next videos
Thanks 😊
thank you!
You're welcome!, tell your friends about my channel and ride safe :)
Super! THX
Thank you, glad it was useful
Καλησπέρα Δόκτωρ.
Εδώ και 2 εβδομάδες είμαι κάτοχος μίας v storm μοντέλο τέλη του 2006 και έτσι χαζεύοντας στο ytube μου εμφάνισε το κανάλι σου. Πολύ αναλυτικός αλλά και βοηθητικος απ'οσο κατάλαβα από τα βίντεο.
Σίγουρα πρέπει να' σαι Έλληνας γι αυτό και σου γράφω στα ελληνικά!!
Ευχαριστώ εκ των προτέρων!!
Ελληνας ειμαι φυσικα :). Ευχαριστω. Καλοριζικη η μηχανη.
Σ'ευχαριστώ πολύ.
Ήρθες ακριβώς την κατάλληλη στιγμή τόσες απορίες που έχω.
Συγκεκριμένα χθες σκάλιζα ο βλακας αυτόν τον ρυθμιστή πιστεύοντας πως θα την χαμηλώσω οπτικά και θα την σκλυρινω και το μόνο σίγουρο είναι πως το'κανα χειρότερο.
Να σαι καλα. Στο καναλι υπαρχουν σχεδον ολες οι εργασιες συντήρησης καθως και reviews.
Top seu video abraço de Brasil
Obrigado :)
What mysterious brew is in that cup? Thank you for this interesting video from Spain. We left for morocco with our Vstorm, and I wanted to know the exact functioning of the suspension.
Thank you my friend. Safe trip. Mysterious drink Dr vstrom coffee :)
Likeeeeee from Brazil 👍 🇧🇷
Thankssss
شكرا
Thanks
Hi from Cape Town. My static sag measured at 510mm, with a pillion on the beast measurement I could get was 450mm = 60mm of travel. Preload was turned up
all the way hard. So does this mean I need a heavier preload spring?
Well I say that in the video towards the end. If the measurements are correct and the adjustments also but the numbers are off, it means that if there is a big difference it might be tge case. If there is not a big diff its ok.
Hi doc, thank you so much for this video. I got this exact model last year and was wondering how this whole process was done. I just have some additional questions:
1 - How do you know where the tape should be put on? Is it always that same location for this model? If so, can't you simply perform the measurement without the X and tape?
2 - I still have all the factory suspension settings and it feels like the bike rides quite stiff when on roads with parallels. Is this normal, even if the damping force is with the correct amount of turns?
Gracias y saludo de Portugal.
1. Take can be more or less perpendicular to the axle
2. Just work the suspension a bit if it is a bit stuck and play with the softness from the screw on the bottom
Good evening. I would like to know the ideal setting for my mono, considering a total of 200 kilos, which includes me and the passenger. Thank you
Hello, you would have to follow the video process and make fine adjustments. Hope that helps.
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Happy to be corrected if I'm wrong...if your spring is bottoming out, more preload will not do anything to prevent that. Preload is only for correcting sag - that's all it can do. It cannot make the spring stronger. Also, I believe the 3rd gen vstrom 650 only has rebound adjustment - this adjustment can only change the speed at which the rear suspension returns to sag after hitting a bump. If the rear pogos (bounces down and up several times) after hitting a bump, increase rebound till it just returns to sag after hitting that bump (doesn't continue bouncing up and down for that one bump). I believe that you're trying to say that the adjustment on your bike is for both rebound and compression damping - I don't believe that is correct. They are typically two different adjustment methods. "REAR SUSPENSION - Link type, rear shock with adjustable rebound damping and spring preload" copied from suzuki's current v-strom 650 specs. This bike doesn't have an adjustment for compression damping. I apologise if I have misunderstood your video.
Watch the video more carefully
If you have a vstrom and a user manual you can choose not to believe me and see what adjustments are available. Do you own a vstrom or not?
What I did not understand: Do I adjust the preload before taking measurements to the factory setup (2 lines visible) or do i fully turn the button clockwise to 5 lines visible an then start measuring? ...or neither? or did i commit a fallcy?
Forget the 2 lines for preload. Follow the video. Do the 2 measurements and then the calculations and adjust appropriately for your weight and purposes.
Boa tarde. Do Brasil de novo. Fui fazer o sag da suspensão traseira da minha moto, que é a vstrom 650, ano 2022.
Entretanto, tive uma dificuldade e queria saber sua opinião, ou seja, se pode ser normal ou se pode ter algum problema (vou levar a moto na revisão semana que vem e se for algum problema, já relato lá).
Fiz a medida com a suspensão solta, levantando a roda traseira. Com os pontos de referência que usei, a medida total foi de 530mm (interessante que essa medida foi a mesma com a roda traseira suspensa e com ela no descanso lateral, não teve diferença).
O sag é de 48mm, né.
Então, adotei a distância entre os dois pontos como sendo de 480mm (aproximei um pouco, para ficar conta exata).
Só eu na moto, consegui facilmente deixar a distância entre os dois pontos em 480mm (na mola fica visível 2 aneizinhos).
Entretanto, quanto a minha mulher sobe na garupa, mesmo dando a carga total higt, ou seja, aparecendo os 5 aneizinhos na suspensão, a distância máxima que fica é de 470mm.
Não ficou um sag totalmente ruim, mas me chamou a atenção, pois eu e minha esposa somos relativamente leves. Eu peso 70kg e ela 55kg…
Desde já agradeço e muito obrigado por todos os vídeos!!!
For the 530 that you say was the same with the suspension loose and on side stand, some time it sticks so do not worry. Just make sure when you have it on the center stand to pull the wheel down so it fully extends and it unsticks. So ok from 530 you subtract whatever number is measure by a 3rd person when you and your wife are both on the bike without your feet touching the ground. Then that number you bring as close to 48 as possible by turning the adjuster accordingly. That means that after you turn the adjuster, you and your wife repeat and a 3rd person measures again and then you subtract the new number again. If the difference is closer to 48 your are adjusting to the correct direction until you reach 48.
Thanks a lot, This is a very complicated method, how do I balance the rear wheel spring of the bike (there is no indicator) sometimes I may ride with a passenger or with equipment (is there a certain easy way) for V-Strom
What do you mean there is no indicator? The method is the same for all motorcycles. What are you asking exactly? If you mean to find a setting for all, as long as you are not going on a long trip fully loaded with side luggage, its fine.
@@DrVstrom Thanks 😊 I own a Suzuki V-Strom 1050 XT, on my short trips I may ride with a passenger or sometimes with the boxes, according to the bike manuals the rear spring has 12 points to adjust the load but there is no indicator show like the GS from BMW
Hello, I normally do not give such detailed info for non membership members but here you go. To adjust follow the same process exactly as my video. For measurement 1, its bike unloaded & measurement 2 is loaded with your passenger. You do M1-M2 and the result number you need to compare with 30% of your rear suspension travel, which I think for the 1050 is 30% of 160mm so 48mm. if your number (M1-M2) is >48 you turn slowly clockwise. if it is
@@DrVstrom Tanks a lot for your valuable inputs 👍✔
Is it the same for front preload and damping too? Mine is 18 DL 1000.
Thanks.
Travelling, I will answer you soon
contact me on FB and I will help you
Does the suspension adjuster knob be on zero when taking the first measurement?
If you refer to the ohe turned by hand then mine was on the default position but it should not matter as after you take the measurements you adjust accordingly.
Καλημέρα και ευχαριστουμε πολύ για τα video. Σε μια v strom 2008 που πριν απο λίγο καιρό αγόρασα, προσπαθώντας να γυρισω δεξια τον ρθυμιστη λογο δευτερου ατομου, δεν το καταφερα καθώς ηταν πολυ σκληρο και φοβήθηκα μήπως κάνω ζημιά. Μήπως πρεπει να ξεσφιξω πρωτα την καταβιδοβιδα που εχει στο κεντρο ο ρθυμνιστης? Ευχαριστω πολυ εκ των προτερων
Γενικα αν μεινουν πολυ καιρο αδουλευτα κολανε Αρκετες φορες μετα θελουν δουλεια γιαννα επανερθουν. Δοκιμασε να παιξεις και με τις 2 ρυθμισεις μπας και ξεκολησει
I love your Channel I have a 2021 650 vstrom. I wish to ask what is the max recommended cruising rpm in 6th gear
Sorry, have not given that much though, I tend to listen to the engine not look at the rev meter so much. What are you trying to achieve? It will definitely depend on how well you chain is adjusted and the road it self plus conditions.
@@DrVstrom not stress engine to Máximize engine life. I usually travel at 6500 on highway for long periods of time probably 2hrs. I wonder if 7500 is ok or probably engine is stressed
Hello, The engine is bulletproof so no problems there. However there are other potential issues if you intend to cruise at these revs for 2 hours straight that you might need to consider. Namely the risk of getting tickets for speeding, the excessive tire wear & fuel consumption. I will not lie, I ve done it myself even revving higher for such periods of time and no issue there. In fact the oil and engine gets proper temperature and you can then tell that the engine works better, the gears shift smoother, etc. However do consider the other factors as well. A last thing to remember is that if your tires get hot and you stop suddenly its also not good for tires but you need to gradually bring the temp down and then stop.
Hope this helped & Ride safe.
@@DrVstrom thank you Dr. There are many roads in mexico with boring straight highways where people Cruise at 140 - 150
@@jorgeiturbe953 there should be lots of heat as well right?
Hello, how to measure a static sag if I don't have central stand?
Take a 2nd person to help and use the side stand
καλησπερα,εφοσον σφιξω ειτε ξεσφιξω τη βιδα που ρυθμιζει ποσο σκληρη ειναι η αναρτηση,αλλαζει και το sag και θελει ξανα ρυθμισμα?
Αν εννοεις την κατω βιδα αν σφιξεις ξεσφιξεις αν αλλαζει η πρωτη ρυθμιση τοτε οχι. Πρωτα απο πανω και κετα απο κατω και θα σαι μια χαρα. Η κατω βιδα ουσιαστικα αλλαζει οσο γρηγορα θα κινειται το αμορτισερ στις μεταβολες του δρομου.
I have one question pls.
I have the same bike. Year 2020. When i set my preload to max the sag is more then 60cm.
Now, i have 120kg, and the motorcycle luggage cariers, protectors, and top case with everything in it have probebly 20-30kg more for sure.
Is it posible that the rear sunspension is too weak for my weight? 😏🤔
Probably yes and probably you need a more enhanced shock. They do sell some that can handle more weight.
No because max weight for this motorcycle is 210kg,
He already said that he put preload to max. That means the weight is probably way too much for the shock to be adjusted properly. Stop confusing people or please do that in your own channel.
Is it the same for the second generation as well.
It is the same for all motorcycles using this shock absorber. The process is the same. just follow the steps in the video
Hey mate, do you know where can I find the workshop manual for this year? Thank you
Think some vstrom forums must have it to download.
@@DrVstrom I've tried but I found only till the model 2016..mine is 2017-2023
Sorry, I cannot help you. Mine is a book so I cannot share. You can ask me for some details.
Hello,Koja je vaša kg.i koliko prstenova se vidi na vasem amortizeru
I'm 80 but it's not a matter of rings and my weight. It also depends on your gear and any other weight on the motorcycle. Follow the video for best results.
Can someone simplify this? Like twist towards the + for heavy loads or if your chunky.
Watch the video. Its explained like this.
Hola amigo podrias activar los subtitulos?gracias
I will add subtitles the following days
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Doctor είσαι φοβερός! Κατατοπιστικοτατο βίντεο! Αν μπορείς εξηγησε μας και στην πράξη όμως τι κάνει η ρύθμιση απόσβεσης επαναφοράς στην πράξη! Δηλαδή τι αντιλαμβανόμαστε εμείς στη μηχανή πρακτικά, στο δρόμο
Το λεω στο βιντεο απο 18 λεπτο κ μετα. Γενικα οπως η σύριγγα, ελέγχει την εκτόνωση μετά την συμπίεση και την ταχύτητα επιστροφής του τροχού στην αρχική του θέση μετά από εξόγκωμα, ανωμαλία του δρόμου ή φρενάρισμα. Για την πίσω ανάρτηση, αν η απόσβεση είναι χαλαρή, αφήνει το ελατήριο να τινάξει βιαια τον τροχό, με ανεπιθύμητες ταλαντώσεις στο πλαισιο και έντονα κουνήματα.
@@DrVstrom άρα εμείς αν θέλουμε ένα "σπορ" vstrom για να στρίβουμε τέλεια ρυθμίζουμε την απόσβεση πιο hard?
Περιπου γιατι εκτος απο την αναρτηση, επισης βασικο ρολο παιζουν η κακια ποιοτητα της Ελληνικης ασφαλτου, τα λαστιχα που φορας, το στυλ οδηγησης κτλ.
@@DrVstrom αν υποθέσουμε ότι η άσφαλτος είναι ιδανική, όπως και τα λάστιχα
Γενικα τα καινουργια vstrom ειναι γνωστο οτι ειναι πολυ καλα ζυγισμενα και ακομα και με τις εργοστασιακες ρυθμισεις συγχωρουν πολλα λαθη στις στροφές. Ομως οι μηχανες αυτες ειναι on off και οχι sport bikes. Το 650 για παραδειγμα εχει μετρια φρενα και εκει μετραει η ωριμότητα του οδηγου. Τεσπα ευχομαι καλο δρομο και οπως λεω και στα βιντεος ride safe.
hello , please put subtitles in the video . Good videos
Hello I will put subtitles the following days. Google does not do that automatically so give me some time
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Thanks
I have manual in English and my language and I can't find 30%from 160...only that come with fix suspension factory 2 level..so you can adjust from 0-5 level..your video is great ,maybe little to long,and I lose info from Frist to second measurement..
Welcome to the world of dealers who want you to go and pay. The 30 % is commonly known in the motorcycle community. Just adjust in this way and you will see how good it will behave. The video has split labeled parts and you can jump from 1 to the next depending on what you are looking. What info do you miss between the 2 measurements? Its simple.
Measure on center stand for measurement 1,
Measure while you alone or you plus luggage or you plus 2nd passenger, depending on for what weight you want to adjust. That is measurement 2
M1-M2 = result
Is the result equal to 30%of 160?
If it is great.
If not you adjust to make result as close to 30%of 160 as possible.
Watch the video more carefully.
Hope it helped.
thank you for your quick reply, now I would like you to record how the engine speed indicator is set to zero, I tried according to the manual but I didn't succeed. I figured out everything else because I've only had the motorcycle for two weeks... the motorcycle is 1 year old and they were taken out immediately front and rear springs and high tech purple coil put on I think....I don't know if it affects the rug...thanks for your time...👍

I did not get that. What year model you have and what exactly are you trying to achieve?
@@DrVstrom I was trying tachometer adjust to zero..ha ha Sory for my English
@@DrVstrom dl 650A/XA 2021 year,v strom ..
What is your height and weight
1,88 & 80
Έλεγα που να πάω το vstrom να μου ρυθμίσουν την ανάρτηση. Τελικά μας έλυσες το πρόβλημα.
Τελεια χαίρομαι που είναι χρήσιμο.
I want more information
Well if you do, shoot. Ask your question so the others can benefit.
@@DrVstrom I am 171 cm tall and I feel the bike is very high, just bought it
There is a lower seat and a lowering kit you can buy that are shorter links on the suspension
@@DrVstrom thank you for your quick reply
I will need more information on other stuff
Dommage qu'on ne puisse pas utiliser les sous-titres en Français :(
Eric, I have made a statement. I will add subtitles soon. Google auto generated subtitles do not work so I have to add them manually! And as you understand I need to type by hand and it takes some time. Next days they will be available
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@@DrVstrom Super ! du coup je me réabonne ;) Super! So I resubscribe;)
Good day to you sir. Thank you for this. But unfortunately this entire video is super confusing. I am not a troll and I am not here to create trouble or to discourage you. I am just being honest that this video confused more than it clarified. Way too much theory. I request that you do another one just demonstrating the concept quickly. You started talking about preload and then that word completely disappeared.
Good day to you my friend. This is not a channel where in 5 min you watch & go. If I did this video in less time there would be many saying the opposite of what you expressed (ie that it was too brief and info is missing). To this day this video is one of my most engaging and successful ones in terms of views and time viewed. You simply skip the theory if you dont want it and jump to these parts for preload.
6:58 1st Measurement Ext Sag
7:08 Measurements-2 Point The Setup
9:05 2nd Measurement Race Sag
14:16 The Calculations
15:20 Adjusting by Increasing Preload
16:32 Repeat the Measurement & Adjust
Then if you wanna play also with the damping force you continue to
17:30 Damping Force Adjustment
18:52 Damping Force Adjuster & Indications
20:24 Set Damping Force Adjuster to Default
Its that simple.
If you still have questions on a particular point, ask them on the comments and I will reply.
Ride safe
@@DrVstrom thank you. Will watch it again following your guidelines.
For goodness sake people. Can someone please tell me what setting should I use for an 80kg, me + a few bits, load? This is way too long and agonizing for me, sorry 😬
If you do it the way doctor describes and note down your settings for one passenger, for two passengers and for two passenger with laguage you will be able to set the bike without doing the whole prosedure every time. There is no easier way than described here.
Hello Dr V-strom which is your website?
You talk way to fricken much bro. There's no need for all that.
Funny but I would say the same for your comment. You either say thanks, or make a video of your own and move on to another channel