How to ADJUST SAG - Works on All Bikes - Adventure Motorcycle Suspension Part 3
Vložit
- čas přidán 9. 12. 2018
- Is your suspension sag set properly? Guest hosts Iain and Eric from Touratech-USA demonstrate the correct way to set race sag, and explain why proper sag is critical to motorcycle control and rider safety.
Iain & Eric @ touratech-usa.com/
Lots more to learn @ MOTOTREK.net/
Follow MOTOTREK @ / findmototrek
MOTOTREK is made by Timothy Tyler @ TIMTYLER.com/
MOTOTREK's music is by Matt Jorgensen @ mattjorgensen.com/
#touratech #suspsension #preloader
#TractiveSuspension #BeemerShop
Thanks to Iain and Eric for filling-in for Bret who's teaching adventure riding classes in India!
MOTOTREK back in India again?!?! Lucky!!!!
Great info again. Good fill in lads and amazing at how many people don't make adjustments for different rides and weights too. I talk a lot about this kind of stuff on my off road bike videos too for my channel. Cheers. Your channel always a good watch.
You're not Bret! STRANGER DANGER!!
Glad I don't have to go to India!
in vietnam the dealer only do the onething is count your money and that all
I think all dealerships should do this for the buyer when selling a new motorcycle
Good suggestions, Mian. It's not a "set it and forget it" adjustment though. Your sag should be adjusted every time the load on your bike changes by more than a few KG / pounds.
Better to set it right once than to never set it which is what usually happens.
@@MOTOTREK my bike forks feel softer than when i bought it, is this possible the springs are shot or that the fluid is kaput? neither are leaking thought, that is what i find strange.
A friend of mine works at a dealership and that's the first thing they do before the customer rides out of the door
@@tolga1cool that's a good dealer
That was a very clearly communicated explanation of what SAG is, how to calculate and adjust it. With all the videos on the topic it is amazing that yours is the only one that is so well communicated.
Thank You
Very welcome
Man, this Eric is a real chatterbox isn´t he.
I like it, deeper water more calm. 😊
Thanks guys! I've read about doing this before and never actually done it. It's sure nice to watch a well done video like this to simplify the process in my mind. Exactly the sort of thing I was hoping to see come from this channel. Now for a video like this one on fine tuning damping adjustments please.
brilliant explanation of the workings of a suspension, explained it perfectly to a moron like me whos been riding 30 years and still needs to learn. Ya gotta love youtube were all jenius' now
Thanks for the great video!!! Always nice to see another demo of this process!!
Excellent instructional video - I've always set the sag on my dirt bikes, but didn't think of it for my adventure bike even though I spend a lot of time in the dirt!! Cheers, Silent Eric and Iain!
Very very usefull, this is exactly what we need. Big thanks to mototrek and touratech!
Best, most simple, and understandable explanation I've seen!
Thx so much Iain (and Eric). Going out to adjust my DR650 sag now. Have ridden for 45 years and never done this on a bike yet. Great logical thinking skills translated through precise and clear speaking. I wish all CZcams "how to-ers" communicated like this
This is now my favourite “how to” on CZcams. Well done gents.
Awesome descriptive video Iain. Thanks
Never seen better explained, thanks so much for this great video. I now know how to do it instead of just guessing it or nor doing it at all for lack of knowledge.
Great timing, I just purchased a new rear shock for my 1200S and until you posted there were no good videos about this subject. Unfortunately Touratech, it was an Ohlins, but your video was A+. .
What a great explanation. Outstanding video! Thank you for putting this online.
Great video......riding down to Washington next July to ride with my brothers...love the scenery!
Great video, simple and clear. Thanks. Keep that good job
Great explanation. And plus - I love Eric's natural acting talent :D
Thanks. This was hugely helpful in setting my rear suspension
Love the way you magically removed the suspension part :)
Yes!
Thank you for describing sag and preload correctly. There are so, so many people out there who describe preload as making the suspension firmer or softer, and think that’s what it does, which is absolutely incorrect. You change to a spring with a different rate to accomplish that; setting preload is simply the means of establishing the proper sag....where the suspension sits in its stroke under nominal load. Again, thanks for the proper explanation!
Excellent video; super easy to understand and implement.
Thanks a lot buddy !
Appreciate your in-depth knowledge about suspension. 👍🙂
Thank for this video, really helped to understand what I did not even know. Now to call my buddy to help me drink some coffee.. and adjust my motorcycle rear sag
So glad this came up on my recommendation
Very well explained. Thanks very much. 👍
Excellent instruction information! Thank you very much!
Very good explained! Thanks
Best sag video ever, Thank you.
5:50 🤣🤣🤣.
Excellent video, i only use to check the manufacture table (Tiger 885i) now i can have another way to adjust.
Best explanation I have seen 👍🏻 I would like to see how to set up the front as well.
Excellent clip! Thanks from the UK...
That was easily understandable and really helpful!
Very well done, thanks gentlemen!
0:08 look at that! Nice skill to avoid the splash cause by the front wheel!
Super great info! Thanks guys!
Very well explained and helpful, well done 👍
Thanks a lot guys. It always seemed mysterious to play with this. Your explanation is so clear so easy to understand. The last few years I had two visits for service at Ohlins experts and none of them offered anything like this. I will do it for myself now.
Good luck, Laszlo!
Awesome fellas. Thanks from Australia 🇦🇺
Our pleasure!
Best explanation that I've seen!
adjusting sag is my winter project
Great explanation thanks!
Excellent explanation
I appreciate this,.. so will my 990!!
Also, sometimes I need those crayons and paper to assist me in explanations.
Very good explanation!
Thanks for this nugget!
Thank you, very helpful!
guy 1: hey, you wanna come with and help me film this video?
guy 2: sure, what do you want me to do?
guy 1: I dunno....just sit and drink coffee I guess....
guy 2: suh-weet!
ha ha that's exactly what I was thinking
Puts down coffee @ 3:52
you forget the man in the shadows, the cameraman is always there
Good info and overall great video thanks
Very good explanation. I never know how to do it. Straight to point too, no useless history, rambling or other B.S. :)
Very good explanation - thanks for sharing 👍
You're welcome, Paul
Why don’t dealers do this as standard before you leave???
Obviously they wouldn’t do this until you were ready to take delivery.
Great explanation an thanks for takin us all through it wether we knew or not.
Cheers guys 💯💯💯💯💯🪬🪬🪬🪬🪬👍👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Gracias por las clases muy intructivo bien impotante very nice video. 👍
Excellent tutorial. I have a new bike that's too mushy in the rear. Now I know how to set the preload.
Mark, "Mushy" might mean your rebound and/or compression damping needs adjustment too.
@@MOTOTREK -- Not so much "mushy" as "it bottoms out when I ride over ruts." Yes, maybe I could go on a diet...
Great video .... cheers lads
Well explained there
Thanks for the tips. I just adjust the sag on my new cfmoto 800mt that was way off from the beginning. Now it's another bike 😁
This was really helpful, thanks!
You're welcome!
GREAT VIDEO!! Thank you
Thank you, but I have a question. When I calculate the preload for one persona I should have fuel tank full?
Amazing content thank you
That is just incredibly helpful for me right now. New to me bike, arse feels 'stiff' and skippy, I bet when I check this in the morrow I am going to find it was set for himself and herself for when they went out riding and it just never came up in the conversation. I guess that's on me for 'sounding like have some idea of what the f*** I am talking aboot'..... Thank you for the plain and straight forward talk through and demo.
Great video
Well explained. Ty.
Is that Eric's Happy Mode?
That forest makes your voice sound like a garage :p Good info! Thx!
Excellent!
Great tutorial. Time to setup my XCA.
Good luck, Cark!
Excellent info. Thank you. :-)
you have the best job
Awsome info 👍
Well, I guess i just found your video, i asked about on the set iup video :-) great stuff
Glad you found it, Paul.
9:28
El compañero pensando .... debí haberlo pensado mejor, antes de aceptar estar en el video !! ...... QUE FRIIIIOO!!!!! JAJAJAJA!!!
Muy buen video!!! Muchas gracias!!! Ahora que no se puede salir, se aprovecha para aprender la teoría y después a la practica YUJUUUU!!!!
Awesome video, thanks very much. I have a Duke 390 and the manual says 14mm static sag and 47mm riding sag. I found a point above the rear axle that is exactly 600mm from the axle and I adjusted the shock preload collar to +3 from stock (i.e. 8/10) because I am 100kg plus riding gear. I am now getting riding sag ~47mm which is great. Looking forward to getting out and testing it. Does 8/10 sound about right for my weight or do you think I should go down a notch? I'm just worried about making the head angle too steep and causing front end wobble/instability.
TKS a Lot.
Very interesting.
Probably one of the best explanations on sag I have seen.👍
Just one question. If I fit a new rear shock with a progressive spring should I still use the bike manufacturers suspension travel figure.
Thanks !
Very informative video.
I have a 2019 Yamaha Super Tenere ES.
How would I set SAG on my motorcycle with electronic suspension?
Do I switch between Soft, Standard and Hard while doing the measurements to adjust the SAG measurement ?
Thanks for this 👍
You're welcome, Stefan!
VERY USEFUL VIDEO THANKS!!!
RIDE SAFE👍🏻
Nice video. Could you give similar advise for front end suspension sag setting on your BMW? Should I go for 30% travel as target? Thanks and happy new year!
Eric snuck a case of beer on the back in the last shot.
Super helpful!!! :)
would like to ask you a question about my crf 1000l2 - lowering the ''thing'' an inch -inch and half from rear and front suspension , reason ease in city traffic stop and go , it is atrocious climbing on every time,- love to ride it as is but really have to deal with commute and about town more than pleasure ride.
With my adv bike the suspension is fully electric front & back with no manual adjustment, it adjusts automatically with the mode you choose, if only it was as easy to input your leg length & weight then have it done for you
Nice content, for asphalt road which setting should i set hard or soft?
What about rebound settings?
Thanks guys. Is the 30% figure a standard that I should be aiming for? I need to check in my Suzuki v strom if the sag is correct for me.
Thanks, I'm a total newb, and I understood everything as to rear suspension. Front suspension still unclear.
Thanks for the video! One question though. How can a solo rider set to the correct sag? Is it important to measure from the center of the axle and not from the ground?
Great video ... good luck finding Eric's personality though!
Does it matter where your compression and rebound are set when you are setting sag? If so, where should compression and rebound be set to?
One question on this: in witch general setting of the bike's rear shock (comfort, sport, fully loaded) Do i need to do this measurements?!
Have you guys had any chance to compare / measure the sag on a Himalayan. I feel the himalayan has a much higher sag. What has your experience been? Am asking this because your mototrek intro in many videos features a himalayan too if I am not mistaken.
Thanks for that . Being a beginner rider there is a bunch of things I need to learn . Won't get it all overnight or even in a year or 2 . Being a motorcycle owner is a little different than renting quads in Baja or riding a vintage dirtbike once every few years .
Great video.... You can do the same with the front fork suspension? That would be a great explanation for calculate the front SAG. THX.
My same thought
This is the best explanation l have found so far on YT. There's so much misinformation. "Sag should be between 30-40mm" is not correct for all types of bikes and suspensions. Just wondering if the procedure works the same for forks as well?
Good explanations for rear sag adjustment. Thanks.. But my bike has two wheels. And what about for the front fork sag. Is it %30 again with fully load? If you make video describing front sag and also explain the rebound and compression for rear and front, i think we will get the whole idea and adjust our bikes well for our needs...
ERAY ATALAĞ Isn’t that what Ian talks about at 8:10 mark?
What if on my brand new bike instead of changing the spring i just make a spacer that goes on top of that compressor ?