300w RMS Sub Takes HUGE Power!! | Sundown LCS In Depth Review
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Good job parker hopefully you blow up in the car audio community your vids are fantastic
Thank you so much!
Dude great Vid
I have 2 of the LCS 12D4 on 1998 MTX Thunder1501D moded to accept 1ohm. All1/0awg with 2 xspower 3400d. Its true output on burps is in the 2200w range best I can figure. 210+/-amp draw around 75% efficient would be fuzz over 2200w. Those 2 Sundown 300w lcs have been taking every ounce of it. No smells no bottoming out.
My buddies from the Army supporting your channel
I appreciate it and everyones service!
The Sundown did great! I think I would still buy the AP over the LCS. Awesome video bro!
Would really like to see a video on the e series. Definitely the best youtube car audio channel.
I picked up that skar box brand new for $40 off marketplace, seems really well built.
Wow! You know..... I wonder what an 18" subwoofer would sound like. That's it! Maybe you should try testing some 18s. I think that would be really awesome and sound super good. I love music, car audio, and bass, although my setup is in my house. I appreciate your videos young man. Good job Parker.
I got 18s subs
@@RyanBassForLife what kind whats the RMS rating
I had an 18 inch skar evl in my room but I traded it for a massive audio hippo xl 15
@@jondoe-pe9ob 2 soundqubed hdx3s
@@BenaresDarkness 15 massive hippo xl are nice way bigger motor than the 18 evl.
Hell ya buddy!!! I love sundown and now thanx to your videos I now know about that sub only being 90 fricken bucks!! You do a awesome job with these videos bud!! Keep it up
Thanks so much man I really appreciate you!!
Love ur videos bro , I’m new to ur channel but loving it , I’m a bass head my self and car audio is my shit , keep up the good work
Thanks so much man!!
Wow almost 12k subscribers! Good for you brother!
Thanks man!!
good video, not a bad sub for the money. The only let down is no push terminals.
For the price I believe it was Awesome cant ask for more and if that little air leak was affecting it it still did well so I say great buy at 90 $ So Great Review 👏👏
I would love to see a Soundstream Tarantula T5 and there Reference line specifically there reference 10 because it looks pretty stout for a budget sub. With some way to anchor them down I'd think dense foam yoga blocks be used to lower box volume for different requirements. If that worked and with a couple diy reducer rings you could test 8 &10s. I love seeing bunch of little 6/6.5" subs thumping away they look so cool
I really like your vids. I like these style of videos. Love it keep it up. I will be with you you the whole time
Thanks so much man!
That little sundown was pretty amazing
I love these budget videos
I been watching your videos for a long while now and everytime i hear you say how black resin coated coils are better over just copper coils well it makes me cringe lol. The reason why companies cover the coils in resin is to save money. Glue/resin whatever we want to call it is used to cut cost and because the coils are weak, not enough copper to them. Covering the coil with resin gives the coil more heat resistance but not longer life. Copper will always be a better material and conductor for the job. That's why sundown coils are beast. Great quality copper and winding. Great videos keep em rolling.
Great job on the video bro!
Thanks man!!!
funny to see you here
Thanks bro I bought 2 after watching this!!!🔥🔥🔥
I have some videos on my channel of them doing work
Same
Ice been watching this dude since his 1st video good job
You an OG
@@ParkerTheBasshead Hey parker is there anyway you can help me decide on whether i shud get the Sundown lcs-12 or the Skar Sdr 12? Which is bit better in your opinion?
IDK if you still have this LCS and the AP still kicking around, but it would be awesome to see you put them head-tp-head in a $100 budget sub battle
Sundown underrated everything
DB drag the AP and the Sundown-to the Death!
Yes sir let’s see it 😂 SUNDOWN FAMILY HERE
Ap will win
Dear god there both china junk
So is this sub box good then ? I’m looking into one of the skar 15 subwoofer boxes for my sundown audio e15. It requires similar box specs but the port is too small, not sure if i should 🙄
I'm looking to purchase two 18" 3200w subwoofers. Would it be bad if I run a 6500w amp on both of them.
Can you try the rms power rating on your Skar subs for a video? Like your videos
I have 8 of these lcs 12s no wall on a audiopipe 4K and they have surpassed my expectations. In fact they need more power so a 8k will be on them soon. They don’t look like much but for the price I can’t complain at all 🤘
Joshua Drefs MD8k
xXTHECARGUYXx gonna try a prv 8k
Parker I was a little critical of your last review but you totally redeemed your self. Great review! I can't believe how well that little Sundown did.. It is my new 300w fav
you can do better for 90$ . 300w is poor
@@mazda2284 What do you suggest?
@@Ronco160 plenty of good options from quality brands , imo the 35$ more for nvx vcw is a HUGE jump in subwoofer for the money, triple the handling power + , double the xmax , 2" vs 3" long wind height coil , ect
@@mazda2284 What sub is the best for $90 or under though?
@@Ronco160 Rockville k6 is better even for 75$ . This video shows a 90$ sub that can take rated , well put the k6 on 300w and it does even better .
What do you think about launching distinct 18 inches l want to put it at home but l have doubts with its performance in a ventilated room , l want you to give me your opinion since you have good experience in ths subwoofer, l have seen a video tullo of the brand launch, a sub 12" and l end up with a knife in the cone , haha,,
? Will the 18" give me a good sound in ventilated room?
Hell yea, bumpin $boys
Good vid. Can you test the cheapest Skar ? They are tuff suckers. I'm running 1100 watts to a 50 dollar 10 inch with push terminals, the 12 inch isn't much more.
I knew I should have got these over the rockville I ordered yesterday
These subs are priced perfectly. I have two of them in a Skar Audio EVL12 ported box and they absolutely slam! I had Kicker CVRs before I got them. The CVRs are no match! Sundown underrated the heck out of these subs. I have them wired in parallel down to one ohm and they are taking 700 rms watts a piece! They can take more power than that. My bestfriend has 800 rms watts on each of his.
How much better are they than the cvrs? I got one cvr in a ported box and I giving it 500 watts, but I feel like the really low bass (like 30 hz and less) sounds muddy and weak to me. Im thinking of switching to the sundown E-12 or 2 lcs 12s
@@nickvanelzen4630 as an SA series owner, I’d recommend the E series if you can afford it. The more power you can push the better, I have a single SA12 Classic on a CT Sounds CT2000.1D amp being fed 2k RMS in a 3.4 cubic foot box. Absolute monsters, the newest E series design took heavily from the design of the last generation of SA series subs. Meaning they’re better for the same price as before, just $50 more than the LCS.
Hey parker do you know if this can be had in a dual 2 ohm configuration...can't find it... okay I see only a d4 available.
I have two u12s on an NS1v2 at .5 and take it just fine. They don't like below 30hz for long. Theyre in a 4 cube net tuned to 29. Does anyone know what id gain by shrinking to 3.25ish and tune closer to peak(38-41)? Ice heard to tune 5-10hz below tuning. Why is that?
Sundown LCS vs Dual 12 or the Power acoustiks gothic 12
On my daily drive I have a sundown x15 its rated for 1500w rms I'm pushing a true clean 3000w daily for a hour + at a time and it never even. Gets hot I dont know what kinda wizards sundown hired to sprinkle magic powder but these subs are built so welll
I picked one of these up for $45 on the Yardsale page. Gasket was misaligned. But other than that it's perfect. Well worth the $$
Yeah man $45 is crazy!!
NICE BRO!!!
Very nice bud.
Please do a ultimax sub (Dayton audio UM12)
Corey what does the rest of your fleet have. no spinners or floaters .
Should look into Massive Audio
You should do a video with the one of the sundown E series subs
Hey man do you have to break in this sub? Planning to get one
how much better would the E12 be than the lcs???
How's the sound quality of this sub compared to the nvx you used to have Parker? Also you should test Dayton audio HO sub 12 from parts express in this box.
NVX VCW Smashes this thing BY FAR lol ! not even in the same game ! i have video of the 12'' taking a sundown saz2500 free air full tilt for over 7 mins and still not dead ! maybe ill toss one in my subwoofer matchup im doing with lcs , k6 , k9 , , boss audio , dark audio nko , pioneer and jbl
So I have 2 of these running in parallel with a 2600w kicker amp and it’s still not enough power to run both. Had to buy another amp to run to each sub. Sounds amazing.
Id like to see a test on fosgate p1
I agree with @workingclassperson Parker db drag Ap bd2 with the lcs 😎
My ev2. 12in in a3x recommended box and three times the rms
Link the demo songs please!
I would run them instead of my skar ix but the sundown has the cheesiest connectors which made me stay away.
I have no experience with Sundown but I just can't stop thinking you are paying extra money for that logo. When I bought my NVX VCW15 (on sale for $162) sub I looked around and the SA15 was $100 more at $267! The EMF lowballer was about the same at $175. Both the EMF LB and the Sundown SA have a 2.5" coil and a double stack and are both rated at 750wrms and the NVX VCW has 3" coil and a larger triple stack magnet structure a smidge more xmax, lower FS and is rated at 1000wrms, now yes I agree that 750w rating is conservative but the NVX's 1000w rating is also underated. That thing can take a whopping and cap feels cool still. There is no way anyone is going to convince me those 2 subs are superior to the VCW as far as good? Specs is specs.... is there coil that much better? is the cooling that better? Is soft parts that much more superior? I don't know but the NVX sounds awesome, and handle more than rated power so what performance aspect would make someone say I'm some glad I spent that extra $100 you really get what you pay for! also the So where is the extra money going? Just The dust cap logos that's expensive ink! Yes I know there's with some brands specs don't mean squat like coil size doesn't insure big power handling ect but with reputable brands like NVX specs do mean something and IMO I think you get more sub for the same money and or more sub for less money...don't get me wrong I think sundown and EMF make awsome and insane products that kick ass and yes I'm comparing NVXs top sub to SD & EMFs entry level performance subs but I still think your spending alot extra for that logo. I can already feel the heat from Jacob fullers army of Sundown fanboys!
Got one from the yard sale. Run the sa version but I was very impressed with it sound quality it really good
From the yard sale what was wrong with it? Anything major?
@@destinseese34 small scratch on the dust cap
How does it hit low notes? I’m looking for something that sounds good without too much power.
@@gregblau8082 compared to the sa version not even close it's more of a sq sub to me but man does it sound good
Thanks I’m not trying to beat up the block but going from a little car to suv my 10” punch seems like it’s struggling to fill the space and not hitting certain frequencies like it used to. It’s still plenty loud so I am looking at something to work with my 400w amp and not get into electrical upgrades
alot of people say they severely underrate their subs in their higher end subs yes but honest they just accurately rate them to take the power on the box continuously without failure imo
I ran an sundown x-8 v2 on a taramps hd 3k for years had an hour commute six days a week beating the breaks off it. Never failed
Ad a 1/4" of foam around the inner part of the speaker hole. That helps a bit from air escaping. Sound deadner inside the box will also help.
On all your videos do you break in the subs before testing them out?
Yes but it depends on the sub for how long. Let his one break in for about 30 mins on music
Hey can you test the new wolfram audio 4K amp??
The O?
I would love to see you do the Orion xtr12 600 watts subs one day !
I would love to try them too!!
@@ParkerTheBasshead it's selling for less than 100$ too
@@NoPainNoGain___ damn Parker's gotta try those...
@@baileybasshead8762 for real would love too but since covid f**k everything up it's almost no where to be found at the moment 😷
Can u please do a boss phantom 12" 2300 watts
I love audiopipe
Bro sundown subs can take x2 to x4 the RMS if its clean power, MY single NSV4 18" is on a single SALT 6 amp that puts out up to 8000-9000 watts at 1ohm. My sub takes it like a champ all day long. In a 7.2c box tuned to 28hz. I do love my set up but i wish i would have bought more cone area for the money, like two zv5 15" for around 800 each instead of 1 NSV4 for 1300, would have been a bit more money but the cone area would have been better i think.
A cool video i think would be cone area vs power, like see if doubling the power gets more RMS vs doubling the cone area. Or say 1000 dollars of cheap subs like 10 of these, vs a single 1000 dollar sub on the same power, wonder which would get high scores lol.
Ive been wondering that last half of your comment for a long time. I had 16 sa10v1s on 2 ns1v2s and only pulled a 154.4. I was tuned to 28 and it was the only time I metered it. It was almost the cone area of 5 18s but with more motorforce.
What was your very first set up back in the day?
Two Kenwood 12s on a 300 watt kenwoods amp
Now rockville claimed to blow an sa12 on rated clean power😳. You should prove Rockville wrong by redoing their “test” with non distorted power
Yes, please. Blowsville are making asses out of themselves at this point.
Rockville suck. I think they're all douchebags
You did the k6 at 600rms which is 75$ , do the k6 at 300rms , or do the LCS at 600rms seeing how everyone claims it's better and "takes double rated" .
Planned for another video here soon 👌🏻
Dude you should check out the audiopipe txx-bdc1-12 its $70 and I bought one and its crazy
You know alot of batteries. I need some advice. What's better: Viper VP-2400 or the Kinetic 2400? The viper is $209 and the other is $269. I would like to save $60 if there's not much difference.
The Kinetic is definitely a tried amp true battery. I don’t have any experience with the Viper so I really can’t say but I’d look around for reviews and see how it has worked for others
Kenetic
neither , Headway DIY lithium would be a much better option
Limitless
@Elijah Dossett he said whats betta. All aluminum limitless, i think yiu can get one for 800 ish
reminds me of the JL W3
Hello I have two kicker comp c and wanting to upgrade. Want tons more bass, any ideas
These would be a good upgrade over the company Cs
@@baileybasshead8762 ok thanks, was thinking about the sundown sa12s
Curious, do you have an upgraded alternator and if so what kind and where did you get it from??
Running stock alt at the moment but have a brand X 250 amp alt this will he installed in a future video
Where did you get the 250amp alternator from. I have the same vehicle and am looking to buy one for my set-up?
sundown paper cone for music quality and a broad frequency range and the stiff "none flimsy" Audio Pipe cone /sub for bass in the lower frequency range period
Sundown audio fi car audio and emf car audio are top of the line when it comes to car audio
Theres many better ones. German subs are insane.
I can’t find a stereo shop to help set my gain on my Kicker 1200.1 amp going to a Kicker 12inch L7 Q Class 1200-1500. WHATS the best way for me to set the gain as perfect as possible? Not just the ear tune either . Like just turn it all the way up then add bass slowly blah I need a more accurate gain setting
A A RON I did mine based on sonic’s video. Multiply speaker rms by ohms then find the square root. That’s the ac voltage at the amp’s speaker terminals for a 40hz test tone with the volume up. Example 450 rms x 2 ohms is 900. Square root of that is 30v
Greg Blau yeah so much to still learn. Learning quickly but it’s hard finding someone that can set the gain electronically. I have it set right now but I don’t think it’s at it’s full potential. I need to get a new volt meter. I have a 4ohm L7 Qclass ABD wired parallel and at least at 2ohms. Also I have a sedan and not a suv but I have one of my back seats down cause it rosins better (unfortunately) sounds good still with it up but I like to hear it. Basically what I’m asking, would it be better to face my speaker at me while I’m driving or the speaker still facing the trunk lid? Idk what would be better and can’t just turn it without stretching wires. Do you know by chance? Also going to get a new meter today and try what you told me. Thanks so much
Should sound better facing back but you never know. Exo and crutchfield have tested it iirc crutchfield got like 10db and that’s supposedly double volume
Greg Blau so turn my box to where the speaker and vent are facing my back seats? It’s facing the trunk lid like normal right now but if it sounds better turned towards the inside of the cabin then I’m turning it towards the cabin inside
Should be louder how it is but I can’t say for sure. Still learning as I go. I bet you have plenty of gain left though. When I first adjusted it with a meter I calculated 22 volts and I only had the amp at 12
Do some skar IX 12s
Alpine type
S 12s or these ? These subs seem like they are ready for war lol
Grab some type r's
Skar sdr or sundown lcs for SQ ?
I have a JP8 for power
Anyone know song at 10:15?
Not bad for a 300w sub
Not at all
What's the song at 14:02?
Suicideboys LTE
Nobody has the sundown lcs 12 in stock no where
I bought 2 for $90 on the yard sale site
Not bad 💪🏻💪🏻
How have they faired for you? Yeah I'm thinking about picking up some cheap (yard sale) seeing how they do
@[ Timothy ] U going to blow them!
I got one E series 15” V.3 dual 2 oh for $99 from their yard sale site. Hands down the best money I ever spent on any pice of car audio.
@@erictheboringone5292 anything wrong with them? All of them are supposed to have some sort of problem or was it just cosmetic?
Man, it will last way longer at a min or 2 at the 300rms rating at 40HZ. That was no RMS test.
This don’t surprise me I have 4 sa 10s on a 4K been beating the shit out of them the other day I had to take one out because I dropped something in the box checked out the coils and leads and there was no burns or blacks or damage what so ever I saw supprised
Parker dawg? Why'd you report my post bro? Hey so what's your plans for your CZcams channels future?
that looks like an incriminator audio i series. i have 4 of them
Sundown needs a LCS-18
parker great vid bro but what is your fascination with aluminum wound coils? you do know copper is a far superior material to run a current through don't you? to run the same amount of current through a cca coil the wire winding would have to be over six time the diameter of the copper wire. cca is garbage bro. electronics anywys that's why you always go for single crystal oxygen free copper in your home audio for the best quality possible. or am i missing something and i get the aliminium has good heat dissipation but if you don't have to heat up your wire as much due to a thinner dia then you wouldn't need the aluminum and it's heat dissipating properties in the first place no? I dunno let me know what the crack is Parker plz or anyone.. thanks
Dude I just HAVE to know... when you are having a conversation with someone in person do you talk to them like you do in your videos?? Lol another great video bud.
Dont. Make. Fun. Of. Parker
Haha maybe sometimes
@@ParkerTheBasshead hah!! For real? That's great...
@@jameskyser9423 parker knows I am just picking. Chill with the white knight bullcrap.
@@devillenm5525 white knight? You simple minded idiot i was doing Parker talk. Haha
Test pioneer 12"
i am in my video
Ought to pick yourself up a tri-pod of sorts
I’m an alpine fan so I’m gonna run 2 alpine s 12s skarrs or these but I’m trying to keep my amp out below
1000 rms
2 Thumbs Ups for using the SPL meter!! Or should I say Three Thumbs Ups!?
They could spent the .15 cents on a manual. Friggin ridiculous! Cmon man step up Sundown!
You need to run your system with your car on if your voltage drops to low those full bridge amplifiers will blow up
Will it really? I thought it would go into protective mode?
I am fairly new to this though
the new Sundown Audio LCS-10 v2 is better call audiopipe then call sundown and then you'll see why sundown is great.
i ran the mofos at 1000 watts for 5min staight🎉
gotta get a better mic setup. i mean its bad... should get a bunch of mic socks and put one over the other and over the other
Spl or sq??? What do yall prefer
Just a suggestion, but you should remove those other subs from the vehicle when testing. The 2 non-playing subs (and the ported box) will resonate and affect what you hear, as well as affect what the meter reads. Just sayin'....