PONTIAC FIERO - Everything You Need to Know | Up to Speed
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- The Pontiac Fiero is one of the most groundbreaking American cars ever made. The mid-engine design was poised to bring General Motors into the future of automotive design...if it worked. Join James as he explores the troubled past of the Pontiac Fiero, and tells you where it all went wrong!
”Pop Up Headlight Song” by Joe Weber
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Hosted by James Pumphrey
Edited by Colby Mann
Animation by Raghav Arumugam
Written by Nolan Sykes
Directed by Jesse Wood
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So did this episode change your mind at all on the Fiero? Is it under-rated? Over-rated? Still a fire hazard? Let me know! If you've owned one, I want to hear about it! If you want one now...I wanna hear about it!
Whats the mid engine car being mass produced next year?
Could you guys do an up to speed on the infamous.... gRoUP H???!!!?!!
Thanks for making an up to speed on the fiero I was really hoping you guys would make one,thx
Donut Media proud 1988 GT owner here. I have owned one or another of these from the 84 four cylinder to my current (nearly) topped out 88GT. I would say for the most part Fiero were under rated. They were priced on average around a well equipped CRX or Corolla/Tercel but punched WELL ABOVE their weight. Consider the 0-60 times of then sports cars like 300ZX and RX-7’s. ... and all at a more reasonable maintenance price of local American Yankee-Doodle value!
My brother had a few of these growning up pretty sweet ass car.... but since we're on the subject can you do an up to speed on the Ford Thunderbird please it's like my favoritest car in the world
Did I just find my new ringtone!?
“POP UP AND DOWN HEADLIGHTS!” 🎶
same.man.same.this tune is thik
Yesssssss!
I want it too. How do i get it
SwangaBalls.exe
Yessss. I want it too
Literally my favorite sentence....
"you know how beats by Dre aren't even that good, but everyone buys them anyways - brand recognition"
Ditto
marketing 101
that and putting everything as "on sale" even though the prices are inflated and its no different it just says "!!SALE!!" all over
one time a store had this then thought it was i bit stupid to have "SALE" writen everywhere when its no different so they changed it and sales dropped so they changed it back to say "SALE"
who is Dre? never heard of him
Scott Elmore he’s a famous doctor. I think he was a urologist.
The most true sentence in the history of sentences... Since I had a pair of beats, and they've been outperformed by headphones that are a tiny fraction of the price
I love how post Malone’s birthday has become a standard unit of measure for donut media 😂😂
Yess
post and pre malone
I love how I still don't know who that is
@@EURIPODES post Malone is a musician, he makes music
@@PunkFan04 f u
I've been watching donut media for about 2 years now and when this video dropped over a year ago I immediately feel in love with the fiero and as of yesterday September 24th 2020 I bought myself my first car a pontiac fiero
@iGotMoreBandzThanYou *coughs*
nice
@Captain Valravn what did you get & are you running it stock?
would be curious to know what you got & how the experience has been. Funny thinking Pontiac folded in 2010 when you what 7? That's pretty crazy. Growing up Pontiac always had some cool cars & I remember growing up in the 80s loving the Fiero as it was very Ferrari like & Magnum P.I. had a Ferrari, but I remember most adults thinking they were a joke. Rear engine, plastic, & so little. Wouldn't mind getting one to play around with.
Isaiah I Just got my second Fiero last month. I had one back in the day in college. So here we go again one more time. Are you West Coast or no?
Pop up, up and down headlights is my new jam
I made an extended version of this ;D, if you want to, you can check it out on my channel :)
@@JayWaver will do!
I want this as my ringtone hahaha
@@JayWaver I'm so glad you made that.
i want to see girls twerk to this
5:14 POP UP UP'N DOWN HEADLIGHTS!!!
Best song ever
@@e70_x5_guy4 same
It's what everyone came her for
@@bruhbwoi3618 be
POPPING UP UH
This car is so legendary, it won a Ferrari Tournament. We could say that the driver was somewhat "Crazy".
C R A Z Y J I M M Y
crazy jimmy yooooooo
Man of culture right here 😂 and he did it going backwards too
Wow I remember!
To this day, still my favorite car company despite being defunct for 11 years or so. I do admire owners that keep their Pontiac vehicle on the road to this day, and some sick ass modifications on Trans Am/Firebird.
Have hope bud we brought Hummer back Pontiac may eventually although my friend working in the experimental department in Detroit said at this time Pontiac isnt. But. Never know.
So the pop up headlights tune is in my head forever. Thanks
8 days and counting
POP, POP, POP!!!......🤣🤣
2 months later and it’s still stuck in my head
YAAAS
13 days and counting
Pop Up Headlights Song Full Version please!!!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Someone already made a 1 hour version of it
I made an extended version on my channel! you can check it out :)
James should add a verse
Pumphrey is so meta. He KNEW we would love the song, so he imitates us as the crowd and sings along. Feckin genius.
And IT SOLD LIKE FRIKKIN HOTCAKES!
Always loved the look of the Fiero. Small wedge shaped coupes are my thing. 77' Torana Hatchback, 89' CRX, '13 Toyota 86.
Okay. No. I wasn't ready for pop-up up and down headlights.
LET'S PLAY IT AGAIN!
It's defo on yt as a single but I don't think I've found it on Spotify yet. But you be it's playing every time I'm out doing laps
James and whoever helped in the making of "Pop Up and Down Headlights" deserve massive pay raises.
Thanks for the video. I was in my teens during the Fiero's heyday. I loved the later Fieros especially the GT that had the PONTIAC lit up on the back. That was my favorite car for a couple years and I always wondered why production was discontinued. Now I know why.
5:31 me when the song started
7:00 I just about died laughing.
She poured oil on top of the engine like you would drizzle olive oil on a salad.
Richard that lady just hurt my soul by doing that.
Engines NEED oil...
Well, she treated all oils equally
Not trying to be round or anything, but this infuriated me more than beats by Dre. And of course it was a female. Not being sexist. it just that... hhhhhh... nevermind.
@@wyattvlogs1190 Bro it was a sketch, calm your sexism down.
NUMBER 1 SONG ON THE CHARTS POP UP AND DOWN HEADLIGHTS UH FT JAMES PUMPHREY!! #lightinglightinglighting
#buffhorses!
RAMCHARGERS
@@michaelmiller99 can anyone maks that into a usable notification tone? Thank you!
RAMCHARGERS as Notification tone and PopUp&DownHeadlights as Ringtone would be the perfect setup for me.. Now would anyone please capture that RAMCHARGERS audio clip and share it? Thank you!
@@mikemagalong3161I made an extended version on my channel! you can check it out :) free download included :D
@@JayWaver thanks, Jay! You may also check Donut Media at zedge app
9:55 where is that junk yard full of fieros. Im in need of parts for mine.
It's called the Fiero Factory, it's in Huntsville Alabama
@@oscarisinsane *Sweet Home Alabama*
I should go down there to the Fiero junk yard, put together a working Fiero and drive it.
I don’t know if old Ed still has the Fiero factory but he knew everything and would tow Fieros with his Fiero.
monsterdrinker21 haha
I loved the Fiero GT, the only thing it lacked was power steering but that didn't matter most of the time. My Dad's friend had one that he would fix for him and he always let me test drive it. Really fun car!
Oh it definitely didn’t matter to me. I’m a twig and can steer it at a standstill.
Whoever does the development animation needs a raise.
Djtrizzle, why? He’s doing his job
Appreciation bonus
He already got it
Says the animator
Getting for doing your job right? I mean hell probably have his raise when the time comes. Lol
You guys should do the Pontiac Firebird/ Trans Am
Khaled Elbaitari I just bought a 1991 firebird 5 speed manual with the original 305 v8 that thing is fast as hell
Don't forget about the formula one...
@@mikeredline27 IIRC they did one episode of that. Got taken down sadly by FIA (via their Formula1 YT channel) for copyright reasons.
@@rockmotors5324 My 270hp custom Fiero GT will leave it in the dust, with my 2003sc Bonneville engine...sorry...lol
Hypo327 I ain’t lookin for a race I’m just lookin for a fun time runnin around town
My dad had a fiero. He said it was a real money pit compared to most of the other cars he owned through the years but was one of the most fun cars to drive.
Just stumbled across the channel, been watching a few videos, had to see if you covered the Fiero. My old man passed away this year and I received his Fiero that he drove for 20 years. For some reason he loved this strange, tragic Frankencar. I don't have the cash to restore the thing, but it's one of the few things I have to keep connected to him and I've developed a love for it as well.
The 1988 Fiero GT was a sick ride. They finally got it right and typical GM fashion they kill it.
Konformation07 they had a prototype 3.4 dohc one and kicked the corvettes ass so it was cancelled
Same with Saab, Opel, Chevrolet europe, etc...
They thought it would steal sales from their precious Corvette so they killed it. Stupid
Keith Russell you got more info on that??
@Robert McGuire people have put northstars in them.
This video is what inspired Crazy Jimmy to win the Ferrari tournament in a Fiero.
That “beats by Dre” thing is so true
That beats by Dre reference was SPOT ON👌🏽
Thank you for finally recognizing our beloved fieros, sincerely a fiero owner.
Said no one ever....
Ditto.
Feels good to be recognized. Maybe now MR2 guys will stop shitting on me...
...naw who am I kidding lol 😢
@@benchracers_inc6688 just start throwing in 3800 Series Superchargeded, LSx's, Ecotecs in the Fieros and you'll be fine.
They look like pretty cool cars (I mean the ones with the V6)
Last year, I bought a 85 GT in really good condition. It had 123000 km on it. I drove 10000 km over 5 months from May to October and had no issues. The V6 has just enough power to make it fun to drive. No power steering or power brakes, but it’s got power windows. Figure that.
Heh my 87 doesn’t even have that lmao
I'm gonna remember the "pop up headlights" song as a defining moment for online videos. I get a warm nostalgia seeing it in its original video, and one day as an old man my great-grandchild will beam a VR mind-file into my head with this song and I'll start crying with joy and then die
The only FIRE HAZARD around here is that Song cause that shit it’s Lit 🔥 🔥 🔥 keep up the good work guys !!
@@TheIcyWulf I made an extended version on my channel 😂 check it out if you like :)
lol we need a full version of 'Pop up and down headlights' by DJ Jazzy Pump
I made an extended version on my channel! you can check it out if you like:)
@Devon MacNaughton Big Pump.
czcams.com/video/Dm1J42mnKho/video.html
Big Poppa Pumphrey
J-Pump
3 most 80s cars of all time:
Z31 300zx
Delorean
Fiero.
Honestly I'd like to add the stratos, countach, and that triangle car I can't remember the name of
Iroc
@@rogehmarbi the lotus Elise?
No c4 corvette ?
I think I'd be the Chrysler K-Car
I just started watching this channel a week or so ago and I just got to say, I FRIKKIN LUV EM! U BOYZ N GALZ IS LIT N MAKE SUM SPICEY VIDZ!
As an owner of an 86' fiero, I am quite happy to see this video.
Mr2 was better
@@nightmares3533 you mean faster. You are correct. 2m4 was slow. Mr2 was a fun little thing. Can't put an ls4 in an mr2 though.
I love fieros. Been wanting one for years
@@cdubbz11188 u can put a k20 in one tho and the 3sgte didnt catch fire so
@@nightmares3533 2zz is a better option tbh.
I just bought a 1987 fiero gt 4 days Ago And i love it.
Perfect timing.
Good luck
@@DRthirdLEGGED Indeed mine was a shitter
Awesome man I had a 87 GT one time and I flipped it ha just make shure you get oil changes regular and look up the fire issues
@@JordanJankyeah im excited got an 3.8 sc that im putting in it and also taking it to get painted next month.
Just found this, I have LOVED Fiero's since I was a kid. This video is fantastic!
Everything you need to know about the fiero is that if your a good mechanic and comfy with swaps, is that a northstar fits in the back fairly easily.
The Fiero had "pop-up up and down headlights" while the Firebird had "pop-up up and one gets stuck headlights" LOL
oh and i almost forgot pop up pop up and down headlights. lol
Haha weren't they probably just firebird headlights already in the fiero? Cuz no budget lol
That'd make that firebird a look like a pirate, Rrrrrrr matey! Lol
they only did that cuz the gear inside the motors are plastic and would wear out from contact with the metal worm gear, you can easily swap them for metal machined gears
You had me at "Pop-up Up and Down Headlights "
The Iron Duke had VTEC: Very Tall Engine Cooling lol
LMAO
Love your channel and videos, thanks for the awesome content!!
5:16 You need to turn this into a full song!!! 😂😂😂
I made an extended version on my channel! you can check it out :)
"I'm no mathemagician, but 20% of your cars catching on fire is way too many of your cars catching on fire." HAHAHAHAHA
I love the Fiero! one of my buddies older brother had one and it was a blast to ride around in for a middle schooler!
I legit looked this car up on google a couple of days ago and now this is in my recommended. Crazy how far the algorithm has come.
I'm waiting for the Single "Pop up, up and down headlights"... please
I made an extended version on my channel! you can check it out :) not anything official though, just made it extra long and added some details to it
The only beard on CZcams I love more than my dad's!!
could you possibly do an up to speed on the Nissan titan?
at least you have a dad... unlike james
Oceanic Dangernoodle lmao
Are you gay or something?
I just bought one of these cars for $3,000!! It's an amazing car, I'm so happy with it! It is such a joy to drive, I'm gonna need to get used to how it handles though.
Drop a 3.8 in that baby.
@@blacksheep8227 Nah, I'm keeping the Iron Duke. I ain't gonna be towing the moon or entering a drag race with my Fiero, I'm just gonna cruise the streets while playing some Billy Ocean.
@@turboking9238 IRON DUKE!? PUKE haha
@@Kryynism Lol yeah🤣
@@turboking9238 sall good. Might be as slow as grandma crossing the street. But it makes up for it by being named IRON DUKE. Lol
I finally got to this episode…. And this was the most that anyone has ever talked about a Fiero in 20 years. I remember seeing one at my dad’s GM plant during their annual open house in the 1980s.
Donut, send me the stems so I can remix that Pop Up, Up and Down Headlights track
Fred Ramsey No need to ruin a song that’s even a song with a remix.
Typical GM shooting themselves in the foot trying to save a penny or two.
They invented planned obsolescence. Fuck them to hell! I owned a Buick Century my dad lied to me and told me it was a Regal, until his buddy showed up with the Century, should have said no, car was garbage in every way.
That's GM's entire relationship with Pontiac other than the Firebird and early GTO's.
@Marney Olson I get they don't believe in I selling itself shame
Amen...!!!
Nailed it!
Broooo I need the full version of Pop Up Up n Down Headlights right freakin NOW. That tune SLAPS!
My sister who was in college at the time but one and had it delivered to the house In 1984. I was a junior in high school and it took me about two days to take it out for the night with my best friend. Good times, thanks for the memories
Make a shirt of
“Pa pa poppen’ up n down head lights!!”
Danny De La Torre I would actually buy that
I would totally buy one
“BREAKING NEWS: POP UP AND DOWN HEADLIGHTS REACHES PLATINUM”
😂😂...all you need nowadays is a good beat and a catchy line.
Exactly my point to James! All the good stuff about the Fiero got lost in his humor, and all that great research was lost in the levity... To bad. Although I did enjoy his video, as a died in the wool Fiero super car/sports car owner/builder...
RPGXSKITTLES why you got Brewster monaply vid as profile piv
Nice fellow Brewstew fan
*BREAKING NEWS* Pumphrey's hit single gets remixed for the Dodge Charger episode! czcams.com/video/WRvCjcQbUkA/video.html
Every time I hear the pop up and down headlights song my car audio is bumping, and it's glorious! 🤘🤘
Still looking for that soundtrack “POP UP AND DOWN HEADLIGHTS!” 🎶
This was perfect timing, just picked up an 85 Fiero GT.
Go to the face book fiero forums and learn how to make it a super car for very little money. Check out 3800sc/3800 swap face book sight...!
Just picked up a 51k miles mint condition 1985 4 speed v6 today. Only paid $2760 lol
Hope you like spending lots of time at the repair shop
@@Way2EasyDIY only $2760?
@@bbob8795 yes. It excellent condition, just fixed a small oil leak, and converted ac to r134. Now flipping it for just $3500 for a quick sale
5:15 When you droping your New, Hot, Single? Pop Up and Down Headlights!? It's Fire!!!
I remember it differently I used to collect easter eggs around two 1984 fieros sitting in her yard! And I’m 28 yrs old and this year 2020 I bought my first 84, that was swapped with a 2000. 3800gm engine but I still have to figure out the wiring harnesses but I can’t wait to get it complete
I owned a '84 Pontiac Fiero. My wife's grandpa worked at GM and obtained the first year production model for his wife and she sold it to my wife for a fountain soda. It was fun to drive, but had 80,000 mile rated Firestones on it. Slid like a banshee. We had soooo many issues with the engine, in the shop 3 times till we had no money to put into it. My wife's father eventually bought it to fix it up, but ended up selling it later. I would love to get a restored one, but the GT instead of the first gen as it was very fun to drive. The speakers in the headrest were a riot, sounded like crap, but there was nowhere else to put em, LOL. Thanks for the vid!!
Every time I pop my headlights up on my sw20 I want this song to play, I need this
Lol 👍
Here you go... I made the ringtone real quick. I named it Pop Up & Down Headlights. Haha
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mr2 crew checking in
Man I love this guy's reviews, that pop pop up and down headlights joint bangs lol.
I am on my 3rd Pontiac Fiero. I have an 84 with the iron duke, an 86 with the 6 cylinder, and an 87 GT with the manual. My special lady likes the Sunday drives to the lake in the cars.
Also I have the pop up and down headlights song as an alarm clock sound.
We have a 1986 Fiero 2M4, automatic, white and Alpine sound system. Bought new. For past 6 years "Best in Class" regional car shows.
Does cost to maintain, considered a survivor. Will keep our Fiero, thank you.
Finnaly!!!!!!!! This was my first car. I know they get a lot of hate, but I love them so freaking much 💜 I rebuilt mine top to bottom, and eventually it'll be a full restomod on the stock engine.
Make videos on it!
My first car also 👌🏻
POP UP UP AND DOWN HEADLIIIIGHTS
Absolute banger
I worked at a Pontiac dealership in 1988-1989 and our garage was FULL of replacement engines for the Fiero. Still fun as hell to drive.
I had a buddy in high school and his dad had an impeccable, garage kept, black 1988 fiero gt with khaki interior. Beautiful car.
5:14 I didn't see this coming but Glad you guys did the Fiero.
thx, my monthly data is save now
Me too, but wish he could have been a little more serious about the positive things that got lost in the humor...!
Holy crap those old guys 😂 "You gonna finish your apple sauce?" "WHERE ARE WE??"
He's probably not very far off with that one actually. Retirement in executive positions should be mandatory at 60. We don't need senile old men making big decisions when they're all stuck in the past.
TheRPGentleman exactly.
Joseph Miller 🤣😂🤣😂
The headlights skit killed me! 😂😂😂 Good stuff! Informative and funny! Great job Donut media👍!
My first car ever, in 1991, was an 86 GT with the five speed, which was released mid 1986 model year. What a fun car that was to drive. Since then I've had a Porsche 944,.a 945S, a 2001 Corvette Z06 yet I still miss that fiero...
My dad had one in high school, he told me the second seat was only for his bud....then my mom came along 😂
I had one in highschool? Am I your father?
Yoooo we legit have the same name
That is just so wholesome! Nvm the part where you called your own mom a hoe. :P
I have one in Highschool 🤷🏻♂️😂
Pontiac Fiero: I'm the most 80s car
Buick Regal: am I a joke to you?
Lamborghini Countach: "cof cof"
Urine: I smell like pee
@@antonioederlopezlopez7341 LM002: "sup fam"
Doesn’t have pop up, up and down headlights.
hey... Yugo
I remember the fiero being one the nicest cars that came out of pontiac. Especially the GT version. It had a similar styling to the 3rd generation trans am GTA. Which i hope you do a video of. Its my favorite car of all time.
When my father autocrossed in the 80s, there was a man who raced a v8 fiero and that thing would fly!! It took him a couple years playing with the suspension, but it was a very competitive in his class...
I want that pop up headlights song as my ringtone!
I made an extended version on my channel! you can check it out :)
VEVOJamesPumphrey channel now launching with his new single ‘Pop up and Down Headlights’ ft DJ Fiero
XD
At about 4 minutes in, i subscribed... As soon as the "headlights song" started i knew i made the right decision 😌
This is one of the best looking cars of all time. I also love the project guys name that is turkish and translates to "grab 'n' run". What a cool video.
If GM had given Pontiac enough to do the Fiero right there first time, we would still have Pontiac.
I doubt it...that recession hit GM hard.
And Corvette would be dead! Checkout my fiero build! GARAGELESS
They should've dumped Buick instead of Pontiac.
@@wvusmc that wouldve been way better!
@@wvusmc Buick makes way more money than Pontiac. The Chinese market alone for Buick probably makes a large chuck of what Pontiac did globally. If Pontiac was given enough money then we could still have both companies maybe despite the recession as Pontiac could have started a new "pony car" war with a properly build Fiero, even with the Iron Duke base engine, because it was a great engine just not a performance engine.
POP UP UP AND DOWN HEADLIIIIIIIIIIIGHHTS pop up up and down headlights
I own an 86 Fiero SE 2m6, in the process of restoring it right now, and she's a great car!
Man This Dude never fails to have me laughing my ass off while I learn something new. Thanks Pumph!
Can I have a ten minute video of James singing about pop up headlights
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Dawg you guys rock! You inspire me to create content!
Miso Bishi right!? These dudes are awesome you’ll get there one day haha
Miso Bishi thanks so much! Start making stuff, find your voice, and have as much fun as possible! 🤘🏻
Donut Media mark my words I’ll be up there one day with you guys! If it ain’t cards at least it’ll be ma beard hehehe
I fell in love with this car when i saw a video of an 85 rebuild and since then i have gone through copart and car gurus and i found my obtainable dream car it is in shakeapy MN with 21 thousand miles on it but it is almost 16000 dollars for it btw its a 1988 gt model year
I lol'd at the thumbnail because the Fiero actually caught on fire on some models but I totally loved how it looks, put a 200+hp and 5+speed tranny and turbo or super charger in it and it'll sing!
The most 80's car ever?
Third gen firebird trans am would like a word.
Ps, please do the trans am? Por favor?
Lamborghini countach is 80s no matter the year....and gross.
@@falconater68 countach vs diablo...then gallardo vs merci...now aventador vs "SPACESHIP!"
Sir, I'm on the phone with several after school clubs that would like to emphasize the 80's-ness of the Countach, Diablo, Scirocco, Pantera, IROC-Z, Grand National, 288 GTO and last but not least: HACHIROKU MOTHERF***ER!!!!! Shall I have them wait in the Lobby?
Delorean, Countach and Testarossa are the 80's icons. You can make arguments for others, but it starts at 4th place.
@Damian von Krövzic portuguese, but it's probably the same in spanish
Please make a "Pop Up and Down Headlights ... Uh" Music video.
Thank you.
When I was younger my mother for her daily driver had a Pontiac fiero. Long story short it was a Franken fiero. It had a fiero gt body, and interior, and since the original car got ran over by a truck the chassis was split in half and a half of a front fiero frame was welded to it, AND to add on to that the engine blew up a couple of months later and a Chrysler v6 was in its place. We don’t have the car now but it was an awesome car and it will be forever part of my childhood.
My Dad used to race SCCA, and he was at the same track on which GM was testing the GT prototype Fiero with a high performance V6. The GM team told him that it out-perfomed the Corvette in every way, so GM chose to stick with the standard V6 instead. Still, a very fast little car. Also, I remember a magazine article from the 90's indicating many of the 4 cylinder fires were traced to a cut-rate connecting pin that saved GM a few cents per part.
I need "Pop up up and down headlights" to be a full song please
Still waiting for that firebird trans am video 💘💘💘💘💘💘💘💘💘💘💘💘💘💘💘💘💘💘💘💘💘💘💘💘💘💘
They already did a Camaro video and a firebird trans am is a Camaro ss with Pontiac badging
MAKE THIS HAPPEN ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!
@Gabriel Lobo what about the powertrain? I knew that a few parts here and there were different but as far as I know they share the same engine, trans, and diff.
@Gabriel Lobo damn dude
@@CaptainRudy4021 well the earlier 1st and 2nd gen T/A's had their own Pontiac engines separate from the Camaro's, also the suspension on the Trans Ams were supposed to be a lil different. Tbh I'm just waiting to see if James would make any smokey and the bandit/ Knignt Rider references, to the T/A's movie car stardom.
I miss my fiero every single day. Such a great car that was never given a fair chance.
I do like a Pontiac Fiero, oh yes😍😍I'm considering one as my next project car for this summer!