Austar AX8560 1/18: Best Budget RtR Micro-Crawler - by far!
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- čas přidán 7. 11. 2023
- This tiny crawler with jeep body is awesome, highly recommended (link below)!
Running tests: 12:31 , disassembling: 26:48 , final conclusions: 37:39
Very few cons: No crawler mode, only F/B/R, reverse slower than forward, turning lights always on and too fast, red lights only on when reversing.
A ton of pros:
- top price
- awesome detailed Jeep-style hardbody
- inner fenders, metal c-channel frame, trailer hitch
- very nice body mount system
- nice lights and light functions controlled by radio
- 4-link suspension front and rear
- high clearance links
- large motor with a lot of torque and punch
- fantastic low speed modulation, best of all RtR brushed micro trucks
- ESC totally silent, no whining at all
- 3-speeds (electronic) work well, even in low speed good torque and punch
- very nice and sticky tires with foams on 1.0 beadlock rims (best tires in a RtR micro I know)
- hex hardware (1.5 mm driver) all around, even servo-arm mounting screw, drive shaft mounting screws (only beadlock rims are mounted by PH screws)
- ball bearings all over the truck
- gears (plastic) nicely greased
- universal steering
- metal gear servo
Austar AX8560: www.banggood.com/AUSTAR-AX856...
Trailer: www.banggood.com/AUSTAR-RC-Tr... - Věda a technologie
I just ordered this truck! Cant wait for it to come in. That’s a 370 motor!!
And, and!! I love it, you’re the best man thanks for the video. I ended up getting two.
I bought the truck it’s my first one and I now have the k5 blazer and the k10 pick up I love the little truck I love the video very helpful to me
I’m still waiting for mine to arrive. Hopefully it will be in this week . This is the second video I’ve seen on this. I had to get one. The one I ordered
was $68 US!
Austar makes some pretty good crawler parts and chassis! Excellent video sir! You really broke this down very well! I’m now a subscriber to your channel! 👊🏼😎👍🏻🌟💯✌🏼
Thank you.
Probably on Ali? One dealer has it for 62 € now (about 68 $), including 3 x 20-4.
Also on Banggood it was on 72 and with allowance you could get lower.
Slow reverse is a pain, mainly in slow speed, way too slow in reverse.
Because of this I ordered a TRX-4M (my very first model of the brand we won't name ;-) ) on Sunday, will arrive tomorrow, and two more videos will be up hopefully soon, one comparing the Austar to the TRX-4M and the oter "MCCT" with both.
Tested a bit, trailer hitch is very low, but it keeps it from tipping over in very steep steps, but hinders reversind in those situations; I removed it till trailer will arrive.
And, nobody knows this so far: Found 2 more Phillips head screws there (mounting the hitch) ;-)
@@donaldsneffe is it to slow in slow reverse or underpowered?
Thank you for all the great details. I’m betting the trailer hitch and trailer came later after the first few were produced and translated to using the screws that are holding the trailer together. Who knows, maybe the trailer is fitted with Phillips screws? For the money it looks totally worth it with minimal short comings. Glad to hear you are getting a trx4-m. I’d be curious to see how this stacks up against it. I know right away on the Traxxas that it is almost all brass bushings. I have yet to own a Traxxas . Usually the cost of them keeps me from getting any. After all my channel is about rc’s that offer a lot of value per dollar. Thanks again for sharing Sir! Looks like I’ve just subscribed to another awesome channel!👊🏼😎✌🏼💯💯💯
@@BangForYourBuckRc slow speed (1st gear) is surprisingly strong (compared to 1st gear in many other trucks which have electronically controlled/Dual rate gears). But in reverse 1st tear it is super, super slow and alwo weak...
Reverse is in all gears maybe 25% only of forward (did not measure), way too slow.
Trailer hitch came mounted...
Will receive the trailer soon... but I did already hear, it is quite "cheapo quality"...
Lot of value per dollar? Guess the Austar is no. 1 in micro crawler class... But also CR-18P is fantastic.
Dang it Donald! Now I have to go buy one... or two! Excellent review my friend, Thanks!
I've had mine for a month now and trailer that you can buy with it. It's freaking awesome rc
Where did you get it from so early?
Ebay
That looks great. Looking forward to the mcct review
Thank you.... Recent 18th in for me was an Eazy Arizona, which has been top fun indoors. The Austar seems a step-up for the same price paid -£70. Astounding value for the hours of fun they provide. ⚡
Not bad. I have the trx4m defender, with the injora "jeep" body on it. Mine did not come with inner fenders tho. I contacted injora, because the mirrors were also missing, and the fenders are no longer included for some reason. But, this looks like a very close clone of the trx4m. Not a bad looking truck for the price. Great review
This is one of the coolest little trucks to come out in a long time. Compatible with many upgrades out there. The value is simply incredible. I heard there’s gonna be a metal version of this gearbox soon. I imagine it would cost around 200-300 to get a trx4m to this level.
TRX-4M does already cost (nearly) 200 € here in EU, so around 200$ ;-) - this truck is actually 75 € incl. shipment, VAT, ... incredible.
@@donaldsneffe I was just as impressed when I got mine and immediately ordered three more for the boys.
@@danielsimental2803 LOL - box shows 4 colours, but actually (at least on BG) only 2 are available.
Electronics are sooooo good... if there would not be this missing crawler mode, I would probably order some more, too for "tuned TRX-4M trucks" (Ripper, etc.).
@@donaldsneffe i will keep an eye out for your videos! Love all the details. I just finished my tarantula and a ripper might be next. Also can’t wait for my MT12… did you get one?
@@danielsimental2803 ;-) - I bought an Injora Tarantula 2 weeks ago on Amazon, TRX-4M version (do not have a TRX-4M), tried with FCX18 parts, did not know that time that this Austar could be a perfect fit - did not try yet.
Guess, I will have to buy one more Austar ;-) (no, will try it with FCX18 parts, received FCX18 skidplates , links and gearbox from Fair RC yesterday (because I do not want to use my FCX18 for this), do have axles hiere, ... this will be my Tarantula.
Would love to buy a Ripper, too. But we can order those only from Amazon.com USA, and then shipping and VAT is quite a bit - ordered the Tarantula instead of the Ripper.
MT12? Not sure what you mean, Asso MT12 monster? No... never thought about it to be honest, ... too many out there...
Injora vertreibt aktuell die Karo in ihrem Store auf Amazon. Ich hab mir den bestellt und mit den beiligeneden Teilen passt sie einwandfrei auf den TRX4m. Ich finde die Karp super. Alleine deswegen lohnt sich der Austar schon, wenn man bedenkt dass eine TRX4m High Trail Karo aktuell 77€ kostet^^ Super Video wieder von dir, dafür ein Like und Danke.👍
Comparto todo lo que dices. Hace un mes que me llegó el primero, y hoy ya me ha llegado el quinto. Fui el primer comentario en Bangood, y ahí ya dije que era el mejor en su clase por el precio que pagas. Imagino que a partir de tu vídeo empezará a subir de precio. Espero que no tardes en someterlo a torturas y a mejorarlo. Un placer, como siempre ver tus vídeos. Ah, se me olvidaba. El remolque no está a la altura del coche, no te sorprenderá como el auto
How could you get it so early from Banggood? I thought I had ordered it on first day available?
Thank you - ok, I am sure the trailer is quite "cheap" (from pics), but... some way nice, too. Of course, compared to the price of the truck (75 € actually vs. 22 € for the trailer) way too expensive ;-)
sooo.. it's basically a TRX4M with some upgrades, non oil shocks, for half the price or less (currently for us in europe, i think it's like 30-35% of a trx4m :D)
Könnt ein schönes Weihnachtsgeschenk werden, wie immer cooles Video 🍻
Nice tutorial 👌
OMG this is awesome
is a TRX4m with an Injora Body and the Injora upgrade kit, but with some nice extra.... love it... maybe I get one ;-)
Can't wait to see how this performs on the MCCT! Thank you for all the effort you put into it. I'm sensing a "slight" aversion to the T-brand, lol! Interested to hear your motivation. I suspect I will agree with you. 😁
Thank you, but if I wouldn't like or love all this testing and disassembling, I wouldn't do it ;-) I do not do it "for you (guys)" (do not like this saying in YT videos), I do it because it is my hobby, I have fun doing it and hope a lot of you will like it, too.
Actually doing the MCCT "work", will take some time.
My motivation to buy a TRX-4M? If the Austar is a copy, I want to check it. Always wanted to do a MCCT, best with all 4 TRX-4M, but couldn't justify to spend so much money only for a YT video (about 800 €, ca. 900 US$ for all four). Finally bought only one... TRX-4M is much more expensive here in EU than in US, way more expensive than Axial for example.
Or my motivation for not liking the T-brand? Extremely expensive, extremely bad electronics for the price (similar to RC4WD 1/18 and 1/24), proprietary plugs etc., so trying to force customers to buy (overpriced) T-stuff, suing other companies for "everything", and finally also the typical "Traxxas fanboys" (they are also in our German forum), who only bought the TRX-4M because it is a T-brand
@@donaldsneffe thanks for the reply. We all love your work, lol! Very thorough and can imagine all the hard work and editing that goes into making the video. We are 100% aligned on the T-brand. Same as Apple... But let's not digress. 😁
@@cobusmeyer9812 LOL - cause you mention Apple: exactly same thing - never spent a single € so far (however: wife, brother, ... do...).
Even if I'd be super rich, wouldn't have am iPhone ;-) (but wife has :-( ).
Very cool little truck indeed! Maybe you could try to hook it up with Hobbywing 1080 just to see how that works. But if it does, I can imagine people culling this little car to upgrade their other rigs.
OK, but why 1080? ASX24 or Klemm Floh are way better for micros and made for this size. 1080 way too big.
No, I will not upgrade electronics, ESC is crazy good, unbelievable, best so far of all RtR micros (but BL Fury Car FX118 with Lizard Pro of course) - if there wouldn't be this "no crawler mode", what a bummer.
Will have to live with this.
Will make a comparison with TRX-4M soon, ordered a TRX-4M only because of this (nearly 3 times the price of the Austar here), my very first Traxxas product I have ordered for my whole life...
Great in detail video, wish that you can pack it in like 20 minutes but still, so much infos, love it!
Is there any chance to find any spare parts/upgrade parts etc.. I am consiedering to get this one! Thanks
Guess all spare parts will be available. On BG axles, motor + gearbox, metal shafts, body are already available for preorder, and Injora parts seem to be the same (Austar = Injora? For sure some relation). I preordered metal driveshafts.
But also on Ali a ton of upgrades available.
TRX-4M upgrades will fit (or most).
Austar axles are a bit wider than TRX-4M axles, so metal steering links for TRX-4M will not fit.
I'm wondering if that transmission assembly with skid plate could fit on a TRX4M chassis. I think it would be cool to run a TRX4M with that size motor. 😎
I can confirm that the transmission fits into an aftermarket brass skid plate so I bet it would fit just fine into the TRX4M. What I really want to know is if the gears inside are the same as the the TRX4M… then i could put the crawler gears inside!!!!!
bagus reviewnya mantap dan membantu
possible to mount a smaller pinion for higher torque?
I was nearly sold on this but not having a crawler mode of F/R is a major flaw IMO. I cannot believe how well they designed it yet failed to add that. I do not get it. Thanks for another great video. Looking forward to the MCCT test.
I also cannot believe. Check the video of 2FM RC testing this (TRX-4M upgrade) radio from Injora...
Also this super slow reverse is quite a bummer (mainly in slow speed).
Wouldn't have cost them anything to program this differently... Slow speed is to fantastic, ESC is 100% silent, and then this...
Actually (till 11-18) its on Ali for 62 € - crazy (TRX-4M is 3 times as much here, promo 180 €, normal 195, High Lift 210).
MCCT probably this week...
Well, I ordered one anyway. See how it does. Although just watching your MCCT video on it, going to have to lower that COG for sure.
Thanks for the video. I just got mine yesterday and I am missing the crawler mode.
Do you have any recommendations for an alternative receiver with crawler mode, which also fits together with the delivered transmitter?
Thank you!
No, sorry, I do not. And this receiver is not only a receiver, also ESC (with awesome performance). I am also missing the crawler mode, the more, because the ESC is absolutely fantastic and I do not see any need to change.
I only asked for a receiver because I would like to go on using the stock transmitter.
I totally agree, that the esc is a great one.
Anyway, all my other crawlers have the „forward-backwards“ mode in the esc. I am really used to it, and I like it. I will try to find another ESS, which has the crawler mode f-b.
@@HO-yg4ur I agree, and I cannot understand at all, why they did it. Would not have been more effort with F/R and maybe 100% reverse throttle. Then this would have been near to perfect.
Maybe they will release a v2 some day.
Hi Donald. Another great video. That body is sold on Amazon US as the Injora body shell for the TRX4M. The body clips work on the TRX4M chassis. And the inner fenders come with that shell and bolt onto the TRX4M chassis as well. That makes me wonder how much of your truck is compatible (clone) with the TRX4M. I looked on Amazon US and did not see your model. But the Austar name is mentioned in conjunction with several of the Chinese brands.
My "problem": I guess I do have all actual micro crawler models but TRX-4M (and no AX24 so far). So that's why I cannot compare and did not see this immediately. (Of course I held TRX-4Ms in my hands, but could not remember that exactly that the Austar seems to be the same). In the (German) forum people say, it is a TRX-4M "clone" with different (and way better) gearbox and motor and of course much, much better ESC.
@@donaldsneffe I live only an hour's drive south of the World Headquarters for the folks that make the TRX4M. So I cannot bash them too much. Their chassis, gearbox, and motor are about as bulletproof as an RC can be. It is unfortunate that they strive to be non-compatible and non-cooperative with the rest of the RC world. But the electronics in your truck above is certainly non-standard as well. And even our beloved FMS is non-standard with their PH1.25 plugs and non-standard and no-color coded wiring. It is all just a challenge that helps make the hobby more exciting.
@@lillagubben2815 Well - I am a micro-heli guy initially, for me 1.25 mm GH and 1.5 mm ZH and even 1.0 mm SH (in some plane ultriamicro servos) are standard ;-) - and axial broke the "standard", when using a JST PH 2 mm connector for a 2s Lipo, which was before exclusively used for 1s Lipos and for smaller motors.
For me all those plugs are "standard" for many years now - but that is only me ;-)
Really? Did not check so far that FMS does use "non standard color codes on wiring", have to check... ;-)
But: You are right, of course.
@@donaldsneffe How do you unplug those kinds of connectors? I have tried micro tweezers, forceps, picks... And I end up just pulling the wires. If I am careful, it works 90% of the time. But that other 10%, the wires come out but the connector shell stays in, and I end up making a new cable... or just giving up on lights...
@@lillagubben2815 i am super careful. Normally I use pointed Tweezers or "round pliers", and try to lever the plugs out - if it is not super easy with pulling (twiggeling around a bit - and then you will "feel" if it maybe comes out).
Best for this are IMO those pliers: Knipex 3432130, mostly use those in "difficult cases", but they are pricy (did not buy for "unplugging").
And if space is very tight, levering will not work, I often use those pliers: Engineer PS-01 - Try to grip the plug from above (short sides) and pull.
I too did already break some... but with those tools now I do have "nearly 100% success", only if I am too lazy and try to do it without tool, ... ;-)
I ordered this but it isn't able to reverse consistently. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. the lights go on when trying to reverse and the steering works. Please help!
Also on full speed? In mine in low speed it is super weak and slow in reverse.
Try rebind.
Wow, wow, wow! 1.5 mm torx screw, unbelievable! 😶
Hex, not torx ;-)
Great info, how does this compares to similar sized FMS FJ Cruiser & EazyRC Thunderstorm ? Thanks.
I do not know the Thunderstorm (available only via Ali?).
Way better electronics than FJ Cruiser, better tires, better low speed, no whining, I guess way better performance (check MCCT for FJ Cruiser, did not test this Austar yet) and the body does look better, too IMO - because the FJ Cruiser looks so "plasticish", body not painted but orange plastic.
But the FJ Cruiser does have crawler mode (F/R), the Austar only F/B/R.
@@donaldsneffe
Tqvm for d info.
Was expecting d FJ Cruiser to have more realistic body compared to Austar.
BTW think the Austar motor is 370 size.
Thx heaps
How do you think compared to MN111? Love the small scaled since my 1/12th are focusing on outdoor and they're too big in my house.
Austar has way better performance, MN111 RtR has super poor ESC, and the super heavy body makes it not capable. Metal body is cool, but not good for capabilities.
Both are 1/18, MN111 larger apprearance.
@@donaldsneffe thank you for your help, i guess I'll wait for your real life testing first. This kit arrived yesterday at one of our local sellers, and sell it like hot cakes.
... still not sure when I'll do it.
Probably soon, but would like to compare Austar with TRX-4M in one MCCT episode, but do not have a single TRX-4M yet (and wouldn't wanna buy one), would have to buy 4 TRX-4M, those are 180 - 200 € here in EU... quite a bit of money only for just one video... still not totally sure what to do.
Ordered a Pink Injora 180 motor yesterday, would like to try this in my MN111 kit, maybe this is the improvement I am searching for... so also still some days for MN111 test, too (MCCT videos are quite a bit of work, a ton more work than for example this simple Austar unboxing video, this is only do, talk, film, cut, go, fast, "no work", and way more views...). Maybe next weekend.
@@donaldsneffe great thanks for the guide, yes trx4m are insanely expensive and even in here, with that price you can get a decent 1/10th or heavily - well modified 1/12th or 1/16th kit. Almost bought the mn111 but finally held it when this video showed up.
@@Latimerias_trailncrawl Thinking of buying a Bronco today, they are on promotion for only 180 € here on my dealer right now (that's about 200 US$).
Then I could make a MCCT with those two and also a comparison video...
But I promised myself never to buy a Traxxas ;-) - I break my own rules... did not spend only 1 € for Traxxas so far in my life.
Anyone having a problem with the reverse function?. Both a friend of mine, and me have one of these, and we both have the same issue. You go to put it in reverse, the truck doesn't go anywhere, the red lights come on for reverse, you pull the throttle back-and-forth a few times, and maybe five or six times later, it finally starts to reverse.
In mine reverse in first "gear" is super slow and weak, but always works. In 2nd and 3rd "gear" it works better. However, guess Austar/Injora set the reverse speed to something near 25% (seems), what is way too slow and weak; 3rd gear ok.
So I have two of these, a great one and orange. The great one has the same bad reverse that others do, the orange one has a regular functioning reverse. Very speedy. Do you know how this can be?
Wow - no. I do have 3, orange and grey, two from Banggood and one from Ali. Have to test, did only run the first one, the one from the video so far.
@@donaldsneffe yeah so I found out the orange one from Ali runs fast in reverse, the different switches affect the reverse speed, but the grey one just like the video, one really slow reverse.
Wonder if the trx4m metal gear set for the axles would fit?
Yes, should fit - gears (axles) are interchangeable (see my newest video comparison TRX-4M - Austar).
Can you do a build video on this truck where you fit the injora f40 body on this chassis?
Probably I will do - will take some time (travelling till end of April)
I just ordered this yesterday! Are there any (CHEAP, Ali?) oil shock upgrades that would fairly bolt on plug and play?
I heard that the cheaper ones are no good so I bought the Injora ones (not so cheap). Did not test any others (Axspeed?).
@@donaldsneffe what do i search to find them where they will fit easy? im not sure what to search
@@hecticaperture Search for TRX4M (TRX-4M) shocks. Aliexpress, Amazon, etc.
@@donaldsneffe Thank you 🙏
Question is, can we put an open diff in those axles ?? Is this the base truck for my mini MT build I was waiting for ?? And what is the wheelbase ? Man, if we can do metal gear upgrade and metal open diff, it would be so perfect for MT build !!!!
150 mm wheelbase. Open diff - difficult with still 4WD.
i got mine last week but mine came with different tires. and my wheels are not beadlock
Really? I have two, an orange one from Banggood and a grey one from Ali. Different packing, but same tires.
Hope your tires are as good as the ones coming with mine.
@@donaldsneffe yes tires are not good i changed them i got grey one from banggood
So if these bodies fit the trx4m donthe trx4m bodies fit this?
People (in the forum) say so; I personally cannot test - lacking TRX-4Ms ;-)
Can you add a furitek lizard ultimate to that and make a video 🙏🏾🙏🏾
I only do have Lizard Pros ;-) - but electronics are sooooo good, probably will not ad brushless to this truck. Motor, ESC are really top - IMO not necessary to upgrade.
@@donaldsneffe is it possible to still stay stock brushed and add the ultimate? I would love to know 🙏🏾
@@abrahamanzaldua6289 Thank you for this super interesting question - now I get it. Because of you asking I tested right now the two open channels out on the receiver/ESC/lightcontroller unit (which are used for lights). Unfortunately it does not work with external ESC, so no CH-2 (throttle) out. The receiver will work and servo will work, if you plug in an external ESC, but unfortunately motor does not work :-( - this would have been super cool.
So of course you still can use it, it will work with the motor, but you will have to exchange receiver and radio.
Motor i think it's a 270. Really nice
Description says 370... not sure...
injora sell this jeep body shell for trx4m 🤣
Quick question, could you maybe try and set your camera to 30fps recording?
Your videos are at 15fps which makes them very stuttery, uncomfortable to watch. Cheers!
it is on 25 fps - however, no problem, only sometimes problem with LED lights on bench.
@@donaldsneffe Hmm dann check eventuell mal deine Software, vielleicht läuft was bei der Konvertierung falsch?
Die Videos laufen definitiv mit 15 fps.
@@sharkey9 OK, danke - werde ich machen.
@@sharkey9 Servus, danke dir nochmal für den Hinweis - hab jetzt (MCCT für den Austar) alles gecheckt und mich gewundert, warum beim Output-File (Voreinstellung "for YT") wirklich 15 fps eingestellt waren. Kann man nicht verstellen, nachdem ich sicher bin, dass bei meinen Kameras nicht 15 eingestellt sind, hab ich mit der Software ein neues Projekt "eröffnet" und da die Einstellungen gecheckt, und da ist wirklich 15 fps eingestellt.
Leider scheint transferieren nicht zu gehen, ... wenn ich mal mit 15 angefangen habe, also im Nachhinein umstellen.
Da sind jetzt leider schon viele Stunden Arbeit im Editieren des fast fertigen Videos, ... das mach ich jetzt nicht nochmal...
Also MCCT 31 musst noch mit 15 leben, falls du es schaust - beim nächsten Video (wahrscheinlich Austar Vergleich mit TRX-4M) werde ich dann die richtigen Einstellungen nehmen (ich nehm wohl 25 fps, weil ich das auch bei den Kameras eingestellt hab, 30 war glaub ich immer ein Flimmern von LEDs auf meinem Basteltisch zu sehen).
Danke jedenfalls für den Hinweis! Hatte mich in letzter Zeit schon gewundert, warum das Konvertieren so schnell geht - lässt sich nun erklären ;-)
@@donaldsneffe Super dass du ne Lösung gefunden hast! 25fps sollte kein Problem sein, Filme laufen ja auch so.
Und zähneknirschend nehme ich das kommende MCCT Video in Kauf... 🥸
Trx4m clone.....except the body!
Way better electronics and gearing and speed and low speed performance than TRX-4M. Ball bearings all around, high clearance links, nice light functions, ...
I wonder if the parts are interchangeable with the TRX4M?
@@rekik66 since I do not have a single product of the brand named "T...", I cannot answer this question ;-)
@@rekik66 looks like most parts are, except the gearbox because of the larger motor which I consider an upgrade over the trx.
@@rcgoodtimes6657 if it does. That would be a great base for the Meus Ripper chassis.
nice little truck!