@@NtuthukoNdwandwe bafo.. Leyo information ayilona iqiniso.. Wena ngokwakho nje.. Mucabanga if uThwala wadubula uSenzo.. After iminyaka engaka ngabe bonke laba ababephakathi endlini ngabe abakhulumi.. Come on bro.. This is a clear case.. The guys that killed Senzo are the ones ebhokisini..
@@zuzadeyi4105Ayikho lento oyikhulumayo. Wake wayilalela interview yalomfana kaThwala, uthi baphucwa amafoni endlini. Yena waphuma wabaleka enganafoni sebeyithathile. But mayefika ngaphandle wafona. Uma bemubuza ukuthi wayithathaphi i4n? Akaphenduli inkulumo eqondile. Use your common sense
Something doesn't add up here, Mshololo should've pursued the point around time. The witness says he handed over the phone at 18:00 yet he recovered it @ 17:00. At what time did he call Gininda, and where was Gininda upon receiving the phone call?
Accused they cant afford this case because is going to take again 10yrs again because 375 is no in baloi bring 375 let us see that document can take us to closer
Mshololo u are wasting time on non relevant details. You are not scoring an mark. Your questions are weak and irrelevant to set your client free . U seem to be not aware that your client is hanging by a thread.
This is easy. Whenever you make a calll, the IME is captured by the network provider. So this idea of the possibility of the phone being exchanged shows that the defence is not aware of how the IME stuff works. If for instance the police tryvto plant a different phone from the one that the accused was using before, then a new IME number would now be associated with the sim.
That is exactly what Mshololo is raising in court. The IMEI is like your ID number. It never changes and it is what you're identified by. Without the record of the IMEI, the phones could have been exchanged.
😂😂😂 So ? Thats not a isolated incident almost half of the prison has cellphones , and do you know most of the time who are the smugglers ? Same people who work on the prison .
The issue here is which phone? Without the IMEI number, we don't know which phone exactly. That is the point Mshololo is raising. She is creating doubt as to the identity of the phone. Criminal cases must be proven beyond reasonable doubt.
@@sandigomevana9014 The best defence is to stay away from crime. So we don't want a situation where some1 will be interpreting things or to be framed or a mistaken identity. They should have first all have refused to take part in this crime in the first place. Now there are in double problems.......
@@user-jj7bw2vn3p this is the real world, we're here now. Your ideal world simply does not exist. You can't undo what's done. We are watching the trial of a crime that already happened. Anything else is wishy washy.
@@sandigomevana9014 wishy washing having committed a heinous crime of killing a well known footballer, and Bafana Bafana goalkeeper, let's value the sanctity of life. The issue of cellphone is very little compared to what they have done
Mshololo missed two opportunities: Prison Head says phone discovered 18:00 and the accused says 21:00. In his answer to another question... the head says it was late in the evening. That was the chance. Secondly: All the time when phones are discovered from inmates, are they handed to SAPS? What was the interest with this particular one? Was there a particular request from the SAPS.
@@SifisoDhludhlu being sentenced to life, it doesn't make one to be automatically guilty for another case. Still evidence must be provided and tested before court of law domkop
That witness is unable to give evidence, how did Gininda got hold of him from afar, I mean Gauteng and KZN are apart, and making statement after 3yrs of incident doesn't hold water
Guys ke tswa jeil botsotsi bo mono ke botsabehang ka hare baya kgona hoo planta ka ntho eo sa etsebeng ke maponesa bare keya hao bakene bona ba e beya.
hayi uyazibhedele wena nje xa kufunyenwe phone kwisisele yonke into iyabhalwa igama le phone IME iyabhalwa phantsi kutshekwe ukuba le phone ine simcard ne model ye phone umhlobo wuphi why bengavula icala for untuli efumaneke ne phone bekumele kunjalo
@@phumzagalada6263 sis wami if you followed the proceedings of the case today,that question was asked and Mr Yaka said it's difficult to charge a person who was not sentenced nana
How can you write a statement for case of 2019, after three years their is no sense how can you remember what happen in that passed years.Please stop playing with the nation officers???
Asinandaba namaphone la kodwa sifuna uLongwe okunguyena owadubula uSenzo
Ayikho leyonto bhutiwam.. Nisola ingane kaThwala engenzanga lutho..
Musile nje kahle.. Abangani baSenzo ngeke abasho if kwakuwu Thwala.. Awusebenzise ubuhlakani🤡
@@zuzadeyi4105 Wenake ngoba usile ekhanda lakho kungan uTumelo icall yakhe yokuqala ebikela umnden kaSenzo ethi boyfriend kaZandy isidubule uSenzo????? Phendula ke ngoba wena wazi konke
@@NtuthukoNdwandwe bafo.. Leyo information ayilona iqiniso.. Wena ngokwakho nje.. Mucabanga if uThwala wadubula uSenzo.. After iminyaka engaka ngabe bonke laba ababephakathi endlini ngabe abakhulumi.. Come on bro.. This is a clear case.. The guys that killed Senzo are the ones ebhokisini..
@@NtuthukoNdwandwe this defence are looking a needle in a hay stack.. Baphenya into engekho nje.. Ngiyabazwela
@@zuzadeyi4105Ayikho lento oyikhulumayo. Wake wayilalela interview yalomfana kaThwala, uthi baphucwa amafoni endlini. Yena waphuma wabaleka enganafoni sebeyithathile. But mayefika ngaphandle wafona. Uma bemubuza ukuthi wayithathaphi i4n? Akaphenduli inkulumo eqondile. Use your common sense
I wonder how do these people sleep at night knowing that they are lying destroying people's lives
Good question
Stupidity at its best .teaching ur child to lie aswell
Bloodstream from fore father's
Cant stop wondering 2 😢😢😢😢😢
So true
Miss Mshololo is to smart,, I salute you
Don’t be too excited 😂show me her smartest
Old man ratha please don't start
,plz ,,,always your take the side,,,we wch yr
Ps increase the volume he didn't hear you.
Yhoooo this thing must end that's our Taxe money please this is not fair for those guys imagine if 2 of them are not guilty what's going to happen
The arm of the law is very long dear. Patience😂❤
One of the best lawyer zandile mushololo
Don’t get too excited my friend & you’ll understand one day why I’m saying that 🤔
Yazzz lonfazi😮sikhathele Ile Case.nizamile defence.we know now how law works.ayiii
Each of accused Gininda he's there in they are cases .This man is master mind
😊😊
For your information, Brigadier Gininda is a leading investigator in this case & hopefully you understand the role nhe 🙏
Something doesn't add up here, Mshololo should've pursued the point around time. The witness says he handed over the phone at 18:00 yet he recovered it @ 17:00. At what time did he call Gininda, and where was Gininda upon receiving the phone call?
Yhoo the lawyers will ask you one question using multitude ways. Interesting
And wasting time!Why in other court cases we don't see this behaviour?Something is wrong with the Senzo case and the high court must come in!
Accused they cant afford this case because is going to take again 10yrs again because 375 is no in baloi bring 375 let us see that document can take us to closer
Everything is lies this case shem
Why would a police just make up lies? What do they stand to gain?
Corrupt cops
Yes mshololo
Direct all the questions to this stupid judges because he has all the answers for the witnesses
Ratha knows something,allegedly
Gininda kodwa usekhona uMawakhe iyoooh kwaze kwababuhlungu okwenziwa uGininda emhlabeni
My word statement done 2023
Mshololo u are wasting time on non relevant details. You are not scoring an mark. Your questions are weak and irrelevant to set your client free . U seem to be not aware that your client is hanging by a thread.
we are wasting time here The Judge has already made his ruling. Look at How is defending the witness
The face say it all
And his judgement is logical..
Even amakhehla ngamaxoki
Watching from somewhere in south Africa ❤❤❤❤
The cellphone was handed over to Gininda, was his around Mpangeni?
Yes he was Yaka told the court that Gininda and Mogane were at Qalakabusha for investigations and they left when the prison was closed
How do you be so sure if the phone is still the same as the one you recovered and handed over to the Police.
This is easy. Whenever you make a calll, the IME is captured by the network provider. So this idea of the possibility of the phone being exchanged shows that the defence is not aware of how the IME stuff works. If for instance the police tryvto plant a different phone from the one that the accused was using before, then a new IME number would now be associated with the sim.
That is exactly what Mshololo is raising in court. The IMEI is like your ID number. It never changes and it is what you're identified by. Without the record of the IMEI, the phones could have been exchanged.
Mshololo she's always fighting i wonder how she came professional advocate
Where do you see her fighting?
You know what, people don’t see that, they are too blind to see that. With all due respect to her and her followers
@@nonozin court…
I don't understand the cellphone was found in Durban and was taken to Gauteng why?
Not in Durban but Mpangeni
It's was taken to GP for further investigations
@@slindileluthuli3905 so that is just ok for SAPS they went there to work in Empangeni then someone tip the warden
Qalakabusha is not in Durban.
Because accused 5 has been sentenced to life
Are there no police at Empangeni? Why call Gininda so far away 700km?
Gininda is the lead investigator, why would he call someone else who's not involved in the case.
@@dannym7593good
Just listen to that stupid response from this guy
He didnt resign but on pansion
The point is that a cellphone was recovered in the cell of Ntuli
😂😂😂 So ? Thats not a isolated incident almost half of the prison has cellphones , and do you know most of the time who are the smugglers ? Same people who work on the prison .
The issue here is which phone? Without the IMEI number, we don't know which phone exactly. That is the point Mshololo is raising. She is creating doubt as to the identity of the phone. Criminal cases must be proven beyond reasonable doubt.
@@sandigomevana9014 The best defence is to stay away from crime. So we don't want a situation where some1 will be interpreting things or to be framed or a mistaken identity. They should have first all have refused to take part in this crime in the first place. Now there are in double problems.......
@@user-jj7bw2vn3p this is the real world, we're here now. Your ideal world simply does not exist. You can't undo what's done. We are watching the trial of a crime that already happened. Anything else is wishy washy.
@@sandigomevana9014 wishy washing having committed a heinous crime of killing a well known footballer, and Bafana Bafana goalkeeper, let's value the sanctity of life. The issue of cellphone is very little compared to what they have done
Fusegi msoon unamanga if wenza investigate bhala IMEI number slima sephoyisa
Spot on member.
Where did he get Gininda phone number so that he can give him the phone ?
I like these Adv yaz
Kanti kubuzwa ngama cell phone noma kukhulunywa ngecala la Senzo 🫣🫣🫣🫣
😅😅😅😅what a fool 🤣
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 Silima. Uliqale nini leli cala
Eish Lana kuningi esizakuzwa
Jobe angithi phela ama cellphone sixhumana ngawo kuyenzeka kwesinye isikhathi abe nobufakazi, silana nje ingoba okunye okwakwenzeka kwakuqoshwe ngawo umakhala ekhukhwini, ukukuphendula nje kafushane yebo kusayilo impela icala la Senzo Meyiwa
@@slindileluthuli3905 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣but untuli ngeskhathi usenzo etshona ubephandle khodwa kee yingakho kuthiwa inde ingalo yomthetho
Hi guys mina angazi ukuthi lento kaBaloyi yokulanda abantu abangazilutho ngecala lokubulawa kukaSenzo Meyiwa angazi noma wakha case yakhe
Ake ngikusize ubalanda ngoba kunobufakazi obuthile obuthinta abamangalelwa okuyibona akusebenzisayo, uyabona nje lombhemu we Natis system walandwa ngoba abamangalelwa babephika ukuba izinombolo zomakhalekhukhwini ngezabo, uBaloyi wayetshengisa inkantolo ukuthi abekusho kwakungamampunge impela izinombolo ngezabo ngoba bathi beya kwa licencing department bafike banikezela ngazo lezo zinombolo abaziphikayo enkantolo. Ngiyathemba ngikwazile ukukucacisela
Mulaloyo woima ngainwe ndila ukhokondisa zwisakondi😢😢😢
Asinazo Detectives xakunje
Leliphoysa licabanga ukuthi sisawethemba amaphoyisa emva kwawo onke lamanga
Engangikuciiiii ...... engangikuce........ uthin lomuntu? Lifuna kuphuma iqinisooo😂😂😂
So Mshololo we believe ntuli who is sentenced already to life or this retired warder...
Akusiyena uMsolwa. He is no longer a Suspect but an Accused now. So, ngum Mangalelwa. He has been charged!
Defensive team all the way
Iyooo bathong judge he interferes too much
Why u get to resign??????
Pansion
Unamanga lomuntu😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 uya gingiza sana
Amanga wodwa kulenja yephoyisa
Lies
Many people are doing time due to the incompetence of our system
Kanti ababesendlini beza nini eNkantolo bandla?
Mshololo missed two opportunities: Prison Head says phone discovered 18:00 and the accused says 21:00. In his answer to another question... the head says it was late in the evening. That was the chance.
Secondly: All the time when phones are discovered from inmates, are they handed to SAPS? What was the interest with this particular one? Was there a particular request from the SAPS.
Engabe usaphila yini umusawenkosi ndimande usaphila yini nje😢😢😢😢
Mmmm😢😮
Phone phone😢😢
No.... This guy is not telling true
So Ntuli sentenced already to life is telling the truth, niyahlanyana Nina believing izinkabi against bomthetho
@@SifisoDhludhlu uNyoko ohlanyayo
@@SifisoDhludhlu being sentenced to life, it doesn't make one to be automatically guilty for another case. Still evidence must be provided and tested before court of law domkop
4 to 5 after u give to Gininda at 18:00😂😂😂😂
Lento yeku prosponed icala kuyenza kuyaqulwa amanye amanga ayikho lento kumoshwa imali leskhathi nje
Baloyi ne judge bayalalana😮😮😮
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
Sicela kuboshwe bonke ababesendlini ngba iqiniso bayalaz bonke
Ziyaphika izigebengu💔mina ngizazi kahle indaba yazo wee
Really who did this person sleep they know,,,,they lied infront of God,,,,
Kanti iqiniso liyovela nini kulecala
Mhla kwabanjwa ukelly wavalelwa
Translator udla ulimi if ekhuluma uyanamuza
Ratha eish pls go on pension also your frirmds are already retired
You Baloi i pray God will punish you for your flithy heart
Fones carry something n a lot will come out
That witness is unable to give evidence, how did Gininda got hold of him from afar, I mean Gauteng and KZN are apart, and making statement after 3yrs of incident doesn't hold water
Remember whilst in trial these criminals practice how to lie n deny anything ,,bathi icala alivunywa akyona ishoplifting le likhulu icala
Who's musawenkosi ndimande??
Former inmate for accused number 5
Guys ke tswa jeil botsotsi bo mono ke botsabehang ka hare baya kgona hoo planta ka ntho eo sa etsebeng ke maponesa bare keya hao bakene bona ba e beya.
Yhoo it's very bad in prison mos😢
Lomkhilu isobhidla mnyanya uyambona bayabuza uyancabhukela
UMadala uthe ifoni wayinikanuGinida uMokgane uthi yanikwa yena
This police they dont know how to read . Why he did not read nesingisi is like asilho shame qhashani the young one.
Waist of time
This cellphone was plotted remember this grandpa has receive the call after that call he go straight to Ntuli to search for cellphone
😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉
SABC news
IME number no one will have to think of it that moment. UYaka nje kube bamyekile bandla. U Ntuli I phone uyivumile itholakele kuye.
😂😂😂
hayi uyazibhedele wena nje xa kufunyenwe phone kwisisele yonke into iyabhalwa igama le phone IME iyabhalwa phantsi kutshekwe ukuba le phone ine simcard ne model ye phone umhlobo wuphi why bengavula icala for untuli efumaneke ne phone bekumele kunjalo
@@phumzagalada6263 sis wami if you followed the proceedings of the case today,that question was asked and Mr Yaka said it's difficult to charge a person who was not sentenced nana
A receiptent form in the police stations have a space to fill in all details of cellphone including IEMI number.
Ms Mshololo is very relevant
@@stanleymojaki4633I am talking about the testimony of Mr Yaka. I see the one at the police station what was done there raises concern
This guy is not working for the state is working for Gininda
Ntuli is lying
Oh kudlalwa ngathi la nimbuzan lomdala coz if usebenza mawupenshelwa ushiya konke emsebenzin
This judge is biased and stupid
Whose husband is this incompetent head of Prison??????
Sikhathele.indaba.kagininda.sifuna.ulogwe..manje.nomnyobho.wendaba.musani.ukumosha.isikhathi..sifuna.umbulali.kasenzo.qa
Lies
How can you write a statement for case of 2019, after three years their is no sense how can you remember what happen in that passed years.Please stop playing with the nation officers???