Excellent. I would add: before calling the fix complete, keep the garage door disengaged from the opener and check to see that when you open it manually, it stays wherever you let go of it, either halfway up or all the way up. If it wants to close when you let go, the springs need to be incrementally tightened until it stays put when you let go of it. If it wants to raise when you let go, the springs are too tight. This adjustment was part of my problem with the crooked door, I believe.
Tom! Perfect. This was precisely our issue ... right down to the 2" (okay maybe 1.5"). Your video assisted us in fixing our door ... in a minus 34 degree celsius morning ... in exactly the method you demostrated. So thankful. Continued success.
Thanks so much went from a Wayne Dalton internal spring system to a traditional double spring system. Ordered parts from Garage Door Nation person who helped me was out of Georgia and was very helpful ordered all the parts for me all I had to get were the torsion bar and mounting bolts. I tooke my time and took about 3 hours but works perfect. Thank you for videos and parts.
Excellent vid. I watched it 4 times just to make sure I had the steps down perfectly. The bolt on my spring and side rollers was not a 7/16, not a 11mm and not a 12mm so I had to use the ol nut rounder.
Awesome stuff, thanks! Had to use 1/2" steel rod and the bolts were square so had to use a crescent wrench. Never have I proceeded so carefully on a home repair before, haha!
keep in mind, if your door was installed level, but your floor is not level this will cause what appears to be a crooked door. that is not the case. if you follow these steps and attempt to fix a door and end up springing out of level, the cable on one side will slack. slack could lead to a cable coming off. a cable coming off could lead to the door falling out of the tracks and unless held up by the opener arm (assuming you have one and it is mounted well, it could fall on your car, or you. Do not attempt to fix a crooked door before you level it by placing a 4 foot level across the very top section of the door. if it is level, seek larger bottom seal or attempt to fill seal with plastic bags to hold it out.
Dude, that was awesome and straight to the point. i just finished replacing the spring on an old door (1978 model) and the side cables weren't under the same tension. The drums that hold the cables have an additional inner spring, which i haven't seen before, but with your video i'm sure i can figure it out. You're obviously a pro and i appreciate this video. Thanks so much. Blessings, scooter
If on Garage door tension is less the 5 turns does it work. In my case its pressure is down and does not open. Even if it open it require lot of strength.any solution?
Thank you! Forgot to unlatch the lock on one side of my door at work before hoisting and skewed the balance. Landlord would have had my head if I needed a service call. Easy and quick repair.
Many nights of going over every as pet of garage door formalities it's like learn how to sew with a high power machines: feed off the arm; elastic: double needle. These machines (GDoor) Have a sense of there own... But, I got it now. Thanks for your videos.. All of them! Edward Bravot...
I don’t level a door to the ground by looking at gaps under the closed door. I use a 4 foot level on the door. Once the door is level, to close any gap in the bottom, I adjust with the down travel adjustment. The concrete is usually not level.
Thanks, you just revealed that my slab has a hump in the middle. I closed up the offending side only to discover the opposite side opened up. Why am I not surprised...our builder sucked. But that you, sincerely, for the video. It helped me understand the mechanics better and I did manage to make enough of a difference to keep 90% of the water out.
You can fix that with an angle grinder and a 24 segment wheel. If you don't have a longterm need for an angle grinder, see if you can rent those tools, should just take part of an afternoon to knock that out
Nice video! My garage door only will go down to 8” left. I noticed the right side is a little higher than the left. Even with the chain disengaged, I can’t force it down?
Something pulled wrong and moved the spring-pole bracket like a half inch to the left and now the wheels are touching the track retainer wall on that side, therefore, the door has a rough opening. Any tips on that DIY?
Tom, Great video. I recently replaced a broken torsion spring on my door and can't get it to sit level - it is up about 1/4" on one side. When I release the tension on the spring (single spring system) it is level and I tension the cables but once I re-tension the spring, it is 1/4" high on the spring side. The cable tension seems equal before I re-tension the spring. Any suggestions?
I had this problem, it was getting worse every year. the 7/16 socket didn't fit the square bolt so I used a 3/8 wrench instead. now my springs make a chattering noise. And it used to be level when open, now it seals on the floor but Crooked when open.. Now what to try?
As a a30 year experianced garage door tech I can promise this. Thats NOT how its done. If you watch carefully you can see the right side still has light under it even after this silly idea of a fix. A pro would visegrip over one roller on the left side and simply but slowly loosen the set screws on the right drum until the door set down on the floor. At that point retighten the drum set screws. Not only is that easier its also much faster. I would make that repair in say 30 seconds w/o the need for winding bars.Also it would be an actual fix as opposed to not fixed at all.
Jeff Killey I'm looking at a lot of these videos and try to balance the tension of the cable on the drums as I'm writing this..So the side that is down most, you would vise grip that she and then loosen the set screws on the right side drum ...then when that side hits ground I could tighten set screws? Rather ask somebody with 30 yrs experience...thanks
Yes. But its important to visegrip the low side down . Other wise when you loosen the high side the low side will end up extremely high likely causing you to need a pro :)
Lets say the entire door is level when shut, yet one side is heavier (call it the low side for lack of better term) therefore the door rolls up crooked. Do you still use the vise grip on the low side and adjust the high side? What if I want to tighten the low side cable. Can you vise grip the same side your adjusting?
@@jaylev85 Not sure how to answer this? If a door is level it should remain level while opening. It should also weigh the same on both sides. I have seen a door where no center bearing was used and it cut the pipe in half. I guess that could have happened. Or the drums are not the same size, or one more possabilty is the cables are not the same length. Otherwise what your describing almost sounds like an extention spring door with mismatched springs.
I loosened the spring on the left side and the door went down a bit. However, when I loosened up the right side I did't feel any tension on the spring. What's wrong? Is this normal? Any suggestions guys?
My garage door looks more crooked how do I fixed it n the left side is more upper then the right. Also the left side is bending the other way and I can't pulled it back I need help. It just broke yesterday night when I to show my sis it was working then bam it went crooked we try to fix it but gotten worse
Thanks for the video. Had this issue. Called a pro that I thought I could trust (he replaced my spring and installed a new door for a reasonable rate on separate occasions). He came, took a look at it, didn't tell me what he was going to do. Said $250 to fix. I said yes, and he did exactly this in 5mins. Felt so ripped off. Told a friend of mine, said his garage door pro ripped him off $200 for a simple sensor that was askew. The pros scare you with "you can get killed, always call a pro". Sure, I'll call a pro if they charged reasonably.
Dumb take. If you were really as cheap as you're pretending to be, you'd have 1, checked the web for how to fix it yourself, and 2, bothered to ask him what he was going to do. instead, he quoted you a price, you said ok, and then you got upset because you didn't check the web to see if you could do it yourself, nor did you ask him what he was gonna do. That's on you bro, you have no one to blame but yourself. You didn't have the knowledge, the tools, or the willingness to do this job yourself, and you got it done right by a professional in under 5 minutes. You didn't get ripped off, you paid for his talent, tools, and ability to do the job quickly.
Exactly. Expertise and skill = value. Personally, I’m choosing to educate myself in this process…to pay myself back for the time I’m spending on educating myself.
Maybe I’m thick, but...when tensioning the cable on the left drum with the vice grips, what is keeping the tension on it while you go over to the right side? Is the vice grips resting on the ceiling (which isn’t shown)? As feedback: sometimes explaining “why” helps us to figure out “how” more easily :)
Your question is a good one. As you say, it's not shown, but the vice grips would have to be wedged against the ceiling to secure the torsion bar in place, and thus keep the left cable tensioned. It has nothing to do with the other reply that says "first thing he does is put the hold bar on the left side to store the tension already in the spring", because the torsion spring was disconnected from the torsion bar when he loosened the set screws.
Can you tell me how to adjust the door so it goes down further? I tried adjusting the nut on a bolt that's connected to the chain but it didn't' seem to do much. Its an older garage door opener, an Allister Access 3500. Thanks.
no, the first thing he did was to put both springs tension on to the upper door ledge with the winding bars, then he loosened the set screws from each cone thus decoupling the springs from the torsion bar completely. with that done the torsion bar is held only by the drums on each side, so after he loosened the set screws for the right drum he could adjust the left drum to get cable tension -- he does a poor job in the video explaining this part but he used the vice grips to get a little tension on the left cable and then quickly rotated them against the ceiling to hold the bar in place while he went over the adjust the right side.
My door was fine until this guy lifted it up while moving and now door won’t close right to ground , it’s a bit crooked and an inch from ground , any suggestions?
I have three springs and only two winding bars so I can't use your method of loosing the all of the springs. Is there another method for a door with three springs?
First put a level on the door, then put a level on the ground. If the door is level and the ground isn’t the person working on it last did what he was supposed to do. Your problem is you need a bigger/better bottom seal which is something an average homeowner can handle without touching the spring line. If the door isn’t level and the ground is, call a professional. Check in a few different spots for both and the longer the level the better
I dont think thats the issue. I just need to level the door. I changed all three springs (one had broke) and the door worked fine after winding the springs a few extra quarter turns. It worked for a couple days and then last night it went all crooked on me. Whats the best was to level the door with three springs? Your video with two springs was awesome BTW.
Got my door leveled, thanks! I actually didn't really understand the point of the vice grip, since it seemed like the torsion springs were already doing a pretty good job of keeping the torsion shaft in place (so long as you don't release both drums at the same time). Can anyone explain? Also, did I really need to even release the torsion springs? Could I have just loosened the drum on the side of the door with the gap and retightened it after it the door lowered itself by its own weight?
Kenneth Chan its just a safety in case those tension bars slip. Its easy to do if your not paying attention. That said I agree that there is no use for them in this scenario. Hope all went well if you had to do it.
He released the spring from the shaft by loosening those bolts (after first putting the winding bars in place as a temp lock to keep the spring from unwinding). Would you want to work on the drums which are also connected to the shaft, while you knew the spring was putting torsion on that shaft? If the winding bar slipped while you were adjusting the drum you could get injured. It seemed like he did use the vice grip to rotate the bar to add some tension to the cable on the the left side.
Hi Thomas. You saved me $295. I just paid Lowe’s for $39 for two vice grips and two rods. Thank you very much for your helpful clip.
Excellent. I would add: before calling the fix complete, keep the garage door disengaged from the opener and check to see that when you open it manually, it stays wherever you let go of it, either halfway up or all the way up. If it wants to close when you let go, the springs need to be incrementally tightened until it stays put when you let go of it. If it wants to raise when you let go, the springs are too tight. This adjustment was part of my problem with the crooked door, I believe.
A life saver! I struggled with it for several days, and this video solved it in 3 minutes. Thanks!!!
Tom! Perfect. This was precisely our issue ... right down to the 2" (okay maybe 1.5"). Your video assisted us in fixing our door ... in a minus 34 degree celsius morning ... in exactly the method you demostrated. So thankful. Continued success.
Used your video and fixed my uneven garage door. Releasing tension 1/4 turn was the trick. Thanks for the lesson.
Excellent video that directly speaks to the issue and fix. Best of all, no music, thanks for taking the time to help us out.
Thanks so much went from a Wayne Dalton internal spring system to a traditional double spring system. Ordered parts from Garage Door Nation person who helped me was out of Georgia and was very helpful ordered all the parts for me all I had to get were the torsion bar and mounting bolts. I tooke my time and took about 3 hours but works perfect. Thank you for videos and parts.
Excellent vid. I watched it 4 times just to make sure I had the steps down perfectly. The bolt on my spring and side rollers was not a 7/16, not a 11mm and not a 12mm so I had to use the ol nut rounder.
This worked like a charm. Best quick fix garage door video on CZcams.
Thank you for taking the time to post this. Very helpful!
Awesome stuff, thanks! Had to use 1/2" steel rod and the bolts were square so had to use a crescent wrench. Never have I proceeded so carefully on a home repair before, haha!
Thank you! I tried several other videos. They all have similar procedures. Didn't fix my problem. Yours worked perfect. Again, thank you!
Your welcome👍
Great vid. Straight to the point.
You made it easy. This has been bugging for awhile. Thanks for the video.
keep in mind, if your door was installed level, but your floor is not level this will cause what appears to be a crooked door. that is not the case. if you follow these steps and attempt to fix a door and end up springing out of level, the cable on one side will slack. slack could lead to a cable coming off. a cable coming off could lead to the door falling out of the tracks and unless held up by the opener arm (assuming you have one and it is mounted well, it could fall on your car, or you. Do not attempt to fix a crooked door before you level it by placing a 4 foot level across the very top section of the door. if it is level, seek larger bottom seal or attempt to fill seal with plastic bags to hold it out.
Dude, that was awesome and straight to the point. i just finished replacing the spring on an old door (1978 model) and the side cables weren't under the same tension. The drums that hold the cables have an additional inner spring, which i haven't seen before, but with your video i'm sure i can figure it out. You're obviously a pro and i appreciate this video. Thanks so much. Blessings, scooter
If on Garage door tension is less the 5 turns does it work. In my case its pressure is down and does not open. Even if it open it require lot of strength.any solution?
Best diy I’ve ever seen. This guy have a channel?
Where can I purchase those rods??
Got mine at Menards
Thanks man! My garage door is fixed. Torsion/Winding bar is a must.
Great video. Worked perfectly with my door. Thanks.
Old video but still very helpful! Fixed my uneven door in minutes. Thanks!
Thank you! Forgot to unlatch the lock on one side of my door at work before hoisting and skewed the balance. Landlord would have had my head if I needed a service call. Easy and quick repair.
Thanks man, you make it easier than the previous that i have seen. thanks again.
Thank you Thomas, excellent video. This method worked perfectly for me!
Saved me a headache! Did exactly as he did and, YES IT WORKED!!!
Video was so good I decided to subscribe to your channel!
Many nights of going over every as pet of garage door formalities it's like learn how to sew with a high power machines: feed off the arm; elastic: double needle. These machines (GDoor)
Have a sense of there own... But, I got it now. Thanks for your videos.. All of them!
Edward Bravot...
Great video, took me a little longer than 2 minutes, but not by much. Thanks for posting.
Thanks for the Guidance. Problems Solved. I had multiple problems. Because of this video I was able to resolve the issues.
Worked like a charm. Thank you.
Thank you so much! It really helped me with my problem! Much success to you!
I don’t level a door to the ground by looking at gaps under the closed door. I use a 4 foot level on the door. Once the door is level, to close any gap in the bottom, I adjust with the down travel adjustment. The concrete is usually not level.
Amazing. A very efficient use of the viewer's time.
Thanks, you just revealed that my slab has a hump in the middle. I closed up the offending side only to discover the opposite side opened up. Why am I not surprised...our builder sucked. But that you, sincerely, for the video. It helped me understand the mechanics better and I did manage to make enough of a difference to keep 90% of the water out.
You can fix that with an angle grinder and a 24 segment wheel. If you don't have a longterm need for an angle grinder, see if you can rent those tools, should just take part of an afternoon to knock that out
thanks, super easy fix followed it step by step and bam... fixed.
Great explanation! Thanks!
Helped a lot. Thank you.
Thank You for this video. This info. solved my problem.
Thank you. Worked great!
Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
Wow, nice job and thank you for sharing.
Great tutorial. Will try it tomorrow.
I'd like to see this with Ez-Set torsion, as the cable drums are dependent on the bearing of the tension spring drum.
Great video ! Thank-you.
Thanks for this tip, I have just sorted my garage door.
Garage door repair hotson is working perfectly in my mobile phone thanks for sharing this amazing video 👍👍👍
very helpful, thank you so much!!!!
Excellent video! Don’t forget to tighten the bolts on both pulleys ( I didn’t see you tighten the side that had the vise grips).
He never loosened the bolts on that side.
great video. helped get mine fixed just a little longer than he did it in. ha
I got it fixed thanks for the tips. This was not difficult.
Amazing! This totally saved me. Thank you.
What did you do on the left side ??????
Nice video! My garage door only will go down to 8” left. I noticed the right side is a little higher than the left. Even with the chain disengaged, I can’t force it down?
Thanks so much for this video worked like a charm and saved me a few hundred dollars 💸
Never heard of winding bars, where would you buy them?
Thank you very much mate.
Something pulled wrong and moved the spring-pole bracket like a half inch to the left and now the wheels are touching the track retainer wall on that side, therefore, the door has a rough opening. Any tips on that DIY?
Thanks man this video halped alot.
from Canada real thank you brother
This is genius. Thanks for the video
Tom, Great video. I recently replaced a broken torsion spring on my door and can't get it to sit level - it is up about 1/4" on one side. When I release the tension on the spring (single spring system) it is level and I tension the cables but once I re-tension the spring, it is 1/4" high on the spring side. The cable tension seems equal before I re-tension the spring. Any suggestions?
Perfect!!! Very helpful!!!
Thanks!!!!!!!!!!
No drama thanks so much that was very Mellow 😎👌🏼
Gotta go watch a video now on how tight a guitar string is
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Can you make a video on what to do if door is open and cable is off the pulley on one side? Door won't come down.
So you put your hand on it and tighted the drum. But how did u do it?
I had this problem, it was getting worse every year. the 7/16 socket didn't fit the square bolt so I used a 3/8 wrench instead. now my springs make a chattering noise. And it used to be level when open, now it seals on the floor but Crooked when open.. Now what to try?
Thanks for help!
Will that work with 4 springs?? My door is wood and heavy!!
Thanks
whats the VIse Grip holding onto while its clamped? it seems like its in mid air doing nothing??
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Giving your Garage Door attention before breakdowns occur is so important as it can save big bucks!
Thanks for your videos
What if my floor is not level? Can i still fix the gap with your instructions? Please help
Is this yhe same method to use if the gap is at the top instead of the bottom?
how do you adjust a crooked door when you have ez set torsion springs
What if my door only has one spring on the right side??? Thanks
What do i do if the last peice of the door hits the "wall" on the way up and get stuck before it completely reaches the top ?
Would this work for a wood door, and the ground is uneven?
As a a30 year experianced garage door tech I can promise this. Thats NOT how its done. If you watch carefully you can see the right side still has light under it even after this silly idea of a fix. A pro would visegrip over one roller on the left side and simply but slowly loosen the set screws on the right drum until the door set down on the floor. At that point retighten the drum set screws. Not only is that easier its also much faster. I would make that repair in say 30 seconds w/o the need for winding bars.Also it would be an actual fix as opposed to not fixed at all.
Jeff Killey I'm looking at a lot of these videos and try to balance the tension of the cable on the drums as I'm writing this..So the side that is down most, you would vise grip that she and then loosen the set screws on the right side drum ...then when that side hits ground I could tighten set screws? Rather ask somebody with 30 yrs experience...thanks
Yes. But its important to visegrip the low side down . Other wise when you loosen the high side the low side will end up extremely high likely causing you to need a pro :)
Sorry. Just realized you already grasped yje visegrip part....
Lets say the entire door is level when shut, yet one side is heavier (call it the low side for lack of better term) therefore the door rolls up crooked. Do you still use the vise grip on the low side and adjust the high side? What if I want to tighten the low side cable. Can you vise grip the same side your adjusting?
@@jaylev85 Not sure how to answer this? If a door is level it should remain level while opening. It should also weigh the same on both sides. I have seen a door where no center bearing was used and it cut the pipe in half. I guess that could have happened. Or the drums are not the same size, or one more possabilty is the cables are not the same length. Otherwise what your describing almost sounds like an extention spring door with mismatched springs.
How about for doors with springs along side the tracks?
What do you do if the concrete is crooked?
Our door has two springs for each wire would it be the same
I loosened the spring on the left side and the door went down a bit. However, when I loosened up the right side I did't feel any tension on the spring. What's wrong? Is this normal? Any suggestions guys?
My garage door looks more crooked how do I fixed it n the left side is more upper then the right. Also the left side is bending the other way and I can't pulled it back I need help. It just broke yesterday night when I to show my sis it was working then bam it went crooked we try to fix it but gotten worse
Thanks for the video. Had this issue. Called a pro that I thought I could trust (he replaced my spring and installed a new door for a reasonable rate on separate occasions). He came, took a look at it, didn't tell me what he was going to do. Said $250 to fix. I said yes, and he did exactly this in 5mins. Felt so ripped off. Told a friend of mine, said his garage door pro ripped him off $200 for a simple sensor that was askew. The pros scare you with "you can get killed, always call a pro". Sure, I'll call a pro if they charged reasonably.
Dumb take. If you were really as cheap as you're pretending to be, you'd have 1, checked the web for how to fix it yourself, and 2, bothered to ask him what he was going to do. instead, he quoted you a price, you said ok, and then you got upset because you didn't check the web to see if you could do it yourself, nor did you ask him what he was gonna do. That's on you bro, you have no one to blame but yourself. You didn't have the knowledge, the tools, or the willingness to do this job yourself, and you got it done right by a professional in under 5 minutes. You didn't get ripped off, you paid for his talent, tools, and ability to do the job quickly.
Exactly. Expertise and skill = value. Personally, I’m choosing to educate myself in this process…to pay myself back for the time I’m spending on educating myself.
I love how he spoke directly to my dumba$$ "don't make your own, don't use a screwdriver"
Maybe I’m thick, but...when tensioning the cable on the left drum with the vice grips, what is keeping the tension on it while you go over to the right side? Is the vice grips resting on the ceiling (which isn’t shown)? As feedback: sometimes explaining “why” helps us to figure out “how” more easily :)
first thing he does is put the hold bar on the left side to store the tension already in the spring
Your question is a good one. As you say, it's not shown, but the vice grips would have to be wedged against the ceiling to secure the torsion bar in place, and thus keep the left cable tensioned. It has nothing to do with the other reply that says "first thing he does is put the hold bar on the left side to store the tension already in the spring", because the torsion spring was disconnected from the torsion bar when he loosened the set screws.
I assume the vise grips were sitting against the ceiling although it was outside of the video’s frame.
Can you tell me how to adjust the door so it goes down further? I tried adjusting the nut on a bolt that's connected to the chain but it didn't' seem to do much. Its an older garage door opener, an Allister Access 3500. Thanks.
G00GLE CHR0ME thats usually don’t from motor and covered in manual.
I did everything as instructed, but my winding bar is now stuck. Any ideas?
Did you stretch
the springs
how did he get the tension on the left side? because if he took the vice grips and pulled on it, the tool holding the spring would fall out.
no, the first thing he did was to put both springs tension on to the upper door ledge with the winding bars, then he loosened the set screws from each cone thus decoupling the springs from the torsion bar completely. with that done the torsion bar is held only by the drums on each side, so after he loosened the set screws for the right drum he could adjust the left drum to get cable tension -- he does a poor job in the video explaining this part but he used the vice grips to get a little tension on the left cable and then quickly rotated them against the ceiling to hold the bar in place while he went over the adjust the right side.
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My door was fine until this guy lifted it up while moving and now door won’t close right to ground , it’s a bit crooked and an inch from ground , any suggestions?
I would be more worried about why all of a sudden my door was crooked ! Like is cable broke or is cable not seated on the drum properly
nice vid!
Your work is absolutely awesome!>!>!>!
Dude thats such a nice garage door half of mine is made of old pizza boxes and tape
U always have the stupid haters behind a PC. but your tip helped me and it works...thks...
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You could also just backwind the spring instead of loosing set screws on springs
I have three springs and only two winding bars so I can't use your method of loosing the all of the springs. Is there another method for a door with three springs?
First put a level on the door, then put a level on the ground. If the door is level and the ground isn’t the person working on it last did what he was supposed to do. Your problem is you need a bigger/better bottom seal which is something an average homeowner can handle without touching the spring line. If the door isn’t level and the ground is, call a professional. Check in a few different spots for both and the longer the level the better
I dont think thats the issue. I just need to level the door. I changed all three springs (one had broke) and the door worked fine after winding the springs a few extra quarter turns. It worked for a couple days and then last night it went all crooked on me. Whats the best was to level the door with three springs? Your video with two springs was awesome BTW.
Got my door leveled, thanks! I actually didn't really understand the point of the vice grip, since it seemed like the torsion springs were already doing a pretty good job of keeping the torsion shaft in place (so long as you don't release both drums at the same time). Can anyone explain? Also, did I really need to even release the torsion springs? Could I have just loosened the drum on the side of the door with the gap and retightened it after it the door lowered itself by its own weight?
Kenneth Chan its just a safety in case those tension bars slip. Its easy to do if your not paying attention. That said I agree that there is no use for them in this scenario. Hope all went well if you had to do it.
He released the spring from the shaft by loosening those bolts (after first putting the winding bars in place as a temp lock to keep the spring from unwinding). Would you want to work on the drums which are also connected to the shaft, while you knew the spring was putting torsion on that shaft? If the winding bar slipped while you were adjusting the drum you could get injured. It seemed like he did use the vice grip to rotate the bar to add some tension to the cable on the the left side.