Jaguar XK Permanent Fix To Seat Reclining Issue After Battery Disconnect
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I followed your video to replace the module. Very easy to do and very clear instructions. The reason I had problems with the passenger seat doing just that not returning forward was as a result of releasing the seat to access the rear seats for my grandchildren to get in. I had it reprogrammed but it happened again so I resorted to watching your CZcams video and found it very helpful. Thank you Found the part through Jaguar Autoserve online spoke to them who in turn were very helpful. Thank you.
Very interesting. That's happened to me . Took it to my specialist Jag garage. They sorted it. But next time I will follow your video. Many thanks
Indeed, I used the SDD v130 JLR software with a Mongoose, and recalibrating the seats was easy. TIP - make sure that you connect a capable power supply (30A 13-14v) to the battery terminals as you DO NOT WANT the battery to deplete in the middle of this process, and the SDD soaks up power!
Thanks a lot I be trying that this week
@keithsmith 1009 Hi Keith, Thank you for watching and for the feedback.
Great explanation
Hi, thank you for watching and for your feedback.
Same thing happened on my '07: seatback was at an uncomfortable angle, and couldn't be adjusted. I tried a brute force method by removing the seat entirely, and by using a robust 12v supply, ran the seatback motor to a better angle by going directly across the motor in the seat. (The electrical diagram is available on one of the Jaguar Forums). Reinstalled seat and all was well. After some time, I wondered if the switch adjusters now had any effect. Tried and got full range of adjustments. So am wondering if module "fixed" itself by being "rebooted" (powered-down/up) or relearned itself by my brute-forcing the motor. Don't care - working now. Worth a try...
Hi, thank you for watching and for your feedback. I have tried that but it didn't work for me.
My 07 does this too. Just on the drivers (LH) side. What a pain. The Bluetooth has a similar issue which I cannot fix to save my life. PLEASE publish that fix if you know it!
Hi thanks for the feedback, It usually affects both seats as disconnecting the battery creates the issue, It is possible you have another cause. Is it just the reclining issue. What symptoms does the bluetooth have.
I redid my interior in red and battery was disconnected for more than three weeks and It happen to my Jaguar XK and I had to reprogram them with scanner diagnostic and it mine worked fine.
Hi, yes they can be reprogrammed but the same issue arises each time the battery is disconnected which is a problem if a person does not have a programmer. The used modules recommended may well need to be reprogrammed depending on their history but that would be only once then the battery can be disconnected without issue. Thank you for the feedback.
Hello, what programmer did you use. I am about to replace the seats in my 2007 XK
what if you can't move the seat back and forth at all so you can't access the removal of the front bolts
Hi, thank you for watching and for your feedback. If the seat is not to far forward you can usually access the bolts with an L shaped ring spanner, otherwise remove the rear bolts lift the back of the seat up and wind the seat back manually.
@@crystalclearmechanics The Jag Service Manual says there is a fly lead behind the seat valance that can be used to connect a power source directly to the seat slide motor (assuming the module is faulty and the motor still functional), and gain access to the fixings. Would you know how to access that fly lead?
My driver seat stop moving forward or backwards in my 07 XK. And the radio also stopped working
I have XKR 2009, where I can buy a controller for the chair or reprogram my current one. I have a prolem for the back of the driver's seat and for the height. The battery was disconnected.
Hi, thank you for watching and for your feedback. Disconnecting the battery on the XKR 2009 does not normally cause a problem with the seat as the seat module has been upgraded since 2008. If you are sure that the problem with your seat is due to the battery disconnection then a module reprogram will cure it. It does not take long but most places will charge for an hour. What are the symptoms with the seat and is it just the 1 seat?
p.s. earlier I had XKR seats in the version exactly like yours in the video.
Having the same problem now.
Is there a fix without replacing the unit?
Hi, thank you for watching and for your feedback. Yes you can get them reprogrammed. Price varies on where you take it.
Hi I think I’ve got same issue with my Jaguar XF I disconnected my battery couple of weeks ago and I lay my drivers seat down last night tried to bring it back up and only moved couple of inches going down ok but not coming back up all other functions working fine if I replace the control module do you think this would cure the problem I have seen some on eBay for about £40 mines a 10 way movement one slightly different part number cheers …. David
Hi David, could you give me the part number of the drivers seat module. Thanks for your feedback.
I have a 2015 XKR, was reading one of your comments, and you stated they did an upgrade after 2008. I wonder why mine is doing it, which means a newer module might not fix it permanently either? Have disconnected the battery a few times for different things, and this never happened before, it's just the drivers seat that currently won't go back up. Are the modules interchangeable between seats so I could at least do a process of elimination? Thanks for the vid, at least I know where to start!
Hi, Thank you for watching and for your feedback. The battery disconnection on the 2006-2007 cars affect both seats and is an inherent problem with the seat modules ( they are 10 way ). Without inspection I don't know why your car has that issue, all modules can lose their programming because of various reasons. Yes the modules are interchangeable but I would advise, leave well enough alone and get the seat reprogrammed ( about £35-£55 depending on where you go, main agent would be more I expect ). I suspect it was probably just a glitch.
@Crystal Clear Mechanics would love to get it re-programmed, but, I called the dealership near me, told them the problem, and they said they can't be reprogrammed, that's it probably a defective seat or wiring problem . Figured this is just BS (as I've seen plenty of posts saying they can be recalibrated) to get me to bring the car in so they can charge me for whatever. Being it's the only JAG dealership within states of me, I'm stuck trying to figure it out myself. I noticed the modules were different pn's, so I was afraid to swap them, found one online that matches the driver's side, so I hope that fixes it. Thanks for your reply!
Thought I would update you for the heck of it. Bought another module, and it did the same thing. The seat also wouldn't come all the way forward, so, I had to jump the seat motor and move the seat all the way forward, then I had to take out the spline shaft to the seat back motor and manually wind both sides till it was all the way forward. It's a serious pain in the arse just to disassemble the seat! But she works perfectly now 😆
Well, until it does it again 😔
@@Beemernow Hi, Check out Autologic diagnostics ( they have an assist for shops ), any good independent garage that has one can log into the Jaguar system and reprogramme the modules, If they don't already subscibe to Jaguar's then they can pay a small fee for a one off connection. There are other affordable diagnostic / reprogrammable tools home mechanics can buy such as the mongoose ( about £200 ? ) the chinese do a copy called a Mangoose which is about £50 but that could be risky. Check them out online and read the feedback, Hope your issue stays cured.
This sort of worked. I have a jerky but working seat now. Passenger seat is still knackered. Fitted later module but it dod not work. Any ideas?
Hi Stuart, could you clarify the problems / symptoms you have with the passenger seat. Thanks for your feedback.
Interesting fault, any more info on why this happens? Cheers
Hi, thank you for your feedback/reply. It's a glitch built into the seat module from new, unique to the 2006/07 ( as far as I know at this moment ) models, they can be reprogrammed at a cost but the next time the battery is disconnected the same issue will occur. The module upgrade I recommended will permanently cure the problem but as always with a used part ( how the module was disconnected, did it come from a crashed vehicle ect ) problem's can surface initially leading to a need to reprogramme that module to cure an issue but this would be a one time only event. These modules on E-Bay sell at different prices, I pay £20 each for them, they are not sided. Just as a matter of interest the 2013-2015 inclusive 2.2 XF jaguar ( module ) loses the central locking when the battery is disconnected, this needs a reprogramme to reset. This also seems to be a manufacture problem.
I live in the US and I have a 2007 XKR. My passenger seat works okay but it will not lower as much as the drivers seat resulting in less headroom for the passenger. Would the module cause that sort of issue? The Jag dealer says I need to replace the entire under seat frame assembly. $3,000 is the cost.
Hi William, thanks for watching the video. I would not rule the module out but it seems unlikely as the seat goes through it's normal functions apart from not reducing it's height fully ( I assume it goes up and down ) To reprogramme both the seat modules over here cost's £35 so not a lot if you want to rule it out, also it will show if they are faulty. I can try and help / advise remotely if you can give me the history, ie, what reason did the Jag dealer give to warrant a $3,000 replacement, what has been checked up to now ect. Many thanks again.
@@crystalclearmechanics thank you for the response. The seat functions properly except not lowering as much as the drivers seat. I will look into reprogramming. Your video also gives me confidence to remove the seat and look for an obstruction or some physical problem that prevents the seat from lowering all the way. The dealer seems to want to take the easy and most expensive way to solve a problem. I have an adaptive headlight warning light on and I was told the entire assembly needed to replaced as opposed to simply replacing the control module which is what SNG Barrett says is the usual problem. Thank you.
@@williamlowish1781 Hi William, There is very little room under the seat so it could well be an obstruction, I have found many things under the seats. If you remove the seat as my video shows without disconnecting the electrical plugs by turning it on it's side to inspect, you will also be able to operate the controls to lower the seat and check it's up and down function without risk of losing other functions. thanks.
Hi, iam about to buy a 2010 XFR, i’ve noticed the seat doesn’t go forward nor backwards, but other controls work. He said “I fitted new modules and it just needs to be programmed” could that be just the case ? Or there is more to it ?. And also all steering wheel controls are not working, I do think its the clockspring if i’am not mistaken. HELP 😅
Hi, thank you for watching and for your feedback. It is possible the seat could be reprogrammed but I would ask him why he fitted new modules and how and when did the steering wheel controls stop working. Does the issue affect 1 seat or both?
@@crystalclearmechanics well, he changed the module a little more than 2 months ago but didn’t program it…. Didn’t ask him about the steering wheel though. Could there be any other issues than the clockspring ? 😅
So, '06 and '07 modules, you have to reprogram them EVERY time you disconnect the battery??? WTF genius at Jag R&D came up with that BS?
Hi, thanks for your feedback. The 2013-2015 XF 2.2 diesel cars also , when the battery is disconnected, lose the central locking mode, the module needs to be reprogramed.
At what point should you disconnect the battery when taking the seat out? OR don't you need to do that?
Hi, thank you for your feedback. If you want to disconnect the battery as a cautionary measure it is best to do it once the seat has been unbolted and before you disconnect the module. Thanks again.
I need to take my passenger seat out, how many cables connect to the seat bottom? is it a difficult process? I am forced to take a large dog somewhere in the car and want to remove the seat for the drive, but if it is complicated to remove and refind the cables, or a delicate task i would rather not
Hi thanks for watching the video, If you look at the video (5 mins 19 secs in ) you will see the cable coming up from the floor ( bottom centre ) and connections ( plugs ) under the seat, disconnect from there and lift your seat out. Thanks again.
@@crystalclearmechanics I noticed the cable in vid but i just wasn’t sure how many connectors it had to unplug. thanks
My drivers seat is now working jerkily but passenger seat still knackered?
Hi Stuart, thanks for your feedback. Could you explain the problem you have had with your seats and what you have tried to fix the issue.
I have a 2014 XF. After disconnecting the battery, the doors wouldn't lock. I quick trip to a Jaguar specialist had them working again, but it was £72.
What on earth is it with Jaguars that stuff breaks when disconnecting the battery?
Don't get me wrong, I love my XF to bits, but problems like this just should not exist.
Thanks for the feedback, yes as far as I know this is unique too the years 2013-2015. It should be a simple reprogramme of the module through the diagnostic plug, 10-15 minutes.