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Re-Index Torsion Bars and $40 Lift on 1992 Nissan Pathfinder Project Cheapfinder - S11E31
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- čas přidán 15. 08. 2024
- How to Re-Index the Torsion Bars on your WD21 Nissan Pathfinder and give it a 2" suspension lift for $40! Is the front end of your 1987-1996 Nissan Pathfinder or D21 Nissan Hardbody sagging? Have you tried cranking the torsion bars as far as they will go?
If you need to know how to re-index your torsion bars, as well as give your Pathfinder a cheap lift you've come to the right place! The next Project Cheapfinder Project is in the books on the $1300 overlanding rock crawler project!
Oh and of course I test drove it!
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hey bro today I installed the spirals to my Pathfinder following your instructions and it turned out excellent thank you very much!
This old pathfinder is really impressive... way underrated. I think if they could be lifted easily like the XJ's they'd be just as popular.
Only problem once you get into the Jeep ecosystem is you start paying a mint! So far the entire Cheapfinder has only cost me $1200CAD.......bargain basement fun!
I had a 95 , loved it . Other guys were scary in their new high dollar jeeps and Toyotas riding the outside ridges in order to avoid those scratches on the inside of track . Huge drops on the outside , I would hug the inside paint be damned ! Pathfinders are beast for what they are !
I have a 1995, same color. Very reliable car. Also have a 1986 D21 pickup that I owned since new - still my daily driver with 378K miles (original Z24i engine and transmission).
Awesome! Can't go wrong with Nissans!
I had the same but 2 wheel drive and the thing was the fastest best handling SUV of the day on road.
LOVE YOUR VIDEOS.... definitely make it easy to understand.... I found a deal on one that I still can't believe.... 1993 Nissan Pathfinder SE 4x4....paid a grand total of $600. Has Barely been drivin considering the age. Under 120,000 miles! The original pedals still look new and the steering still feels factory tight.... Somehow the owner fouled out the knock sensor and it was stuck in limp mode. They the the trans was shot so it sat parked in front of their garage for a year or so then the cats were cut off and it sat another 2 years before I happened across it and talked him into selling. Worst thing I can say about it was the 40+ mile drive with no cats and stuck in limp mode was loud as FK 😅.....fixed the sensor and str8 piped it crunk right up and drove like nothing was ever wrong with it....put one take of high boost pickle juice in it to clean it out (after dumping and flushing the tank of course) and OMG I'm IN ❤️‼️ plan on doing this mod next week.....
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Awesome! I love stories like that. Cheap Pathfinders are the best! Does yours have a manual or automatic transmission? If you can get that working properly everything else will run for another 100k miles!
Needs a lightbar...🤣
To be fair, I was impressed by the safety standards demonstrated in this video.
Jack stands even!
With a lack of concern and a heavy right, you can accomplish almost anything!!!🙌🏼
Not sure how long until catastrophic failure, but as long as I have the camera running we all get to see it go wrong at least!
@@PathmakerProductions AMEN!!! Put 'er in the Ketchup boys!
I drove the Pathfinder in the 2008 snowstorm from Portland Oregon too baker city Oregon 4 hundred Miles and never got stuck climbing dead man's pass cabbage mountain and capable of winch outs and pull outs. Drive down ski resort during storm no problem.
Thanks dude for your Cheapfinder video series. I have a '00 Nissan Terrano II which from underneath is almost the same vehicle so I learned a lot watching your videos. Keep up the good work!
Thats awesome! Glad I could help a bit! Ive gotta get another shock and a new tbar anchor (check out my Whipsaw videos for that ridiculous show!) and then ill be back on the trail…..next project is to build a cheap winch bumper!
Awesome . So cool to see somebody working on an old pathy. I have a 92 psyco- pathy. 300,000 miles on the beast. Still drive it every day. Don't believe some of the insane stuff I've ut it through. Put a set of blizzacks on it and it was unstoppable in snow.
Great fun rock crawling too.
Definitely look forward to checking out your channel.Getting ready to beef up an 87 hardbody. Can't wait.
Send you some pics some time.
Terrano 2 and terrano 1 have a lot of things similar. Since terrano 2 was built on the basis if terrano 1
Terrano and Pathinder are the same in fact. Pathinder is purely from the American
I have a 95 JDM R3M wide body turbo diesel in cobalt green. Thank you for this video, my suspension is shot and you've just saved me quite a bit of money 👍
I love hearin stuff like that! Check my channel for replacing your lower tension rods and how to do an idler arm brace, (on the cheap of course) they'll help keep the steering together longer!
Perfect example of buying a used 500 $ vehicle compared to a 50,000 $ vehicle you can beat them senseless and not have to worry about the paint love the video and vehicle to
$ 1,300 like you said is what I meant lol
Cheap rigs are so much fun, don't need to spend big dollars to get out in the woods, just need a bit of knowhow and be brave enough to do it!
Amen to that that’s why I want a cheap rig don’t have to worry about a little scuff on your paint just another day in the office of having fun the equal
Gotta love rallying cheap beaters I'm shocked everything came apart as good as it did.
Considering how rusty the frame is I don't understand why the bolts came apart so easily.....I was expecting vulcanized shocks and snapped bolts for sure!
What a riot. Bought a lunchbox locker cause it was cheeper than a better welder today to see if I can keep up with you when I make it down.
Oo that'll be guaranteed to let ya down at the worst moment haha! I'm sooo glad its welded, I woulda definitely got stuck on that rock with an open rear......it would have been an hour walk home haha!
Smells like some street sign full belly skid plates and some hold my beer moments good job Brady !
Hmm well I do know of some street signs! We really gotta get a winch on there first, I was almost walking home a few times there!
My uncle's had two of these and they are very tough and reliable the manually 5-speed and the automatic now both are manually 5-speed for wheeler .
Ohhh I remember doing this with my 1st Gen Xterra. What fun it was hahahha. Glad I SASd it.
Putting a d60 under my other rig was the best choice I ever made!
Well done, and good on you not rounding off hardware!
Haha I can only think of how many bolts I woulda destroyed on the Pathmaker had I had a good impact back in 2001!
Use a spacer on the upper ball joint and put the spacer and ball joint under the a frame and that will give you more down travel.
i was impressed how that frame is crusty and still holding on good hahah
Yeaa ill have to do something about that, its lookin a wee bit crispy in some important areas!
Love the video's man I am basically doing same thing except mine is a 95😜 so far I have the same lift springs with rancho 2.5 inch shocks and all new front end with the new idle arm brace😜 and warn locking hubs I just need to weld the diff now haha so I don't get stuck again so thank you thank you you inspire me to work on mine on down days too sometimes just watch some rock crawling on good ol' pathmaker productions
Thats awesome! Love to hear I'm sending inspiration! YT hates sending links but if you do a search on my channel I do have a welding the diff video too. Its not nearly as hard as everyone makes it out to be, and once its done properly.........it'll never break!
@@PathmakerProductions funny you say that that is the next project I have 2 same diffs so I am welding one up for sure
The real secret to a good welded diff is the piece of plate you smash in between the spider gears. Makes it so the plate is doing all the real work and the welds are just there to hold the plate in. (Also gives you a real nice place to build a big pool to whip into the spiders!)
I'm thinking about converting my drivetrain to a z24 engine appreciate the video
dude you crack me up! Great job and I will be doing same to both of my Pathys, thanks!
Cheers! Appreciate it! Just trying to be entertaining but also somewhat helpful to people trying to work on their Nissans! On that note, I better go do some welding on that crusty frame before it breaks in half!
The ole cheap finder rickshaw just putting in some work... might need to spend a little bit on cheap front locker make er just mint
IfS lockers are terrifying, the solution would be to be a better driver............but we all know thats not gonna happen any time soon!
@@PathmakerProductions better driver pppfff where's the fun in that
Cheapfinder to the win
Nice 👍 looks like my 90' it's more of a greyish blue and bone stock take care ✌️ KY
Should do a full belly skid so you can slide over stuff and prob help hold that rusty frame together longer doing what you do.haha
I have a full flat belly skid on the Pathmaker rig, it definitely helps. The Cheapfinder on the other hand……might just have to hit things a biiiit harder
I had no idea that pathys had coil rear. My ol d21s got leafs
Yea Im not sure why they did it, but its why the Pathys flex a lot more in the rear than the Hardbodies!
@PathmakerProductions they put coils in the back for better ride- esp for rear seat passengers. Leafs on the utes are better for load carrying but ride/flex like crap.
That super swamper tire shake!
Its a thing for sure haha between the sound and the shake you’ll never fall asleep behind the wheel!
Chain saw an ur ready for the bush
Exactly! If you search on my channel for S11E39 you can see my trip over the Whipsaw Trail I took in the thing with a bunch of buddies, so much fun in a cheap rig!
What part of the Country are you in ? I'm picking up a 2000 Pathfinder for $2000 bucks . It's in good shape, already has a nice steel front bumper and Welded rear diff , and only 184k miles on her .
I'm a left coaster, islandspec!
Minty fresh frame you got yourself there 😂 👍🏼👍🏼 not even sure fluid film can help it lol
Thats why I don't want to put it on the hoist.........I'll be able to see too closely how bad it is. Ignorance is bliss! hahaha
Hey now that's stage 3 weight reduction people pay extra for that
Exactly.......I did some frame repair on Friday, all of the "dirt" covering my cardboard was actually pieces of frame..........I'll just be covering that up with more rusty metal haha!
Mint seeing your version of Peg's poor pricks lift kit.😂
Just workin with what I got!
15:14 That's what I call Trailblazing ... Lol
Sometimes it just be like that haha
Would have been nice if you measured and shown it before and after the torsion bar index.
I agree. You get about 1.5” of lift with the torsion bar crank.
Thanks for your videos
Thanks for watching!
I maxed out my tortion in the front and my wheels had crazy toe in and camber
You went too far! Lower them back down a bit and your steering should get a bit better, problem when cranking them is the angles get worse on the tierods and they get easier to bend!
@@PathmakerProductions for sure I lowered it back down and put it maybe in the middle
Like I said in the video, if you shoot for like 3/8" of an inch spacing you'll have the best of both worlds!
@@PathmakerProductions thank you
What can be done on the 2WD hardbody trucks to lift it it’s still on the factory 14s and 195/75/14 want to go 265/70/16s I’m getting as factory takeoffs from my new Tacoma can I crank the torsion bars up front do I need to replace the shocks due to the lift?
In the rear the leafs are under the axle so do I need to get them over the axle and replace shocks or is there a way to lift the rear with like shackles or something?? I haven’t been able to find anything on it only on 4WD D21
Those tires should fit without lifting much, they're smaller than the stock 4x4 tires. You can still crank the torsion bars, they look a bit different when you're under there than the 4x4 ones but they work the same way. You're not likely going to get enough crank out of the torsion bars to need longer shocks. Easiest way to raise the rear a bit is to make longer shackles. Simple to make from a few pieces of 2" flatbar with some holes drilled in them.
Do you have any opinions or suggestions for a proper lift on a pathfinder, I own a 87 pathfinder and want to lift it the non cheap way 😂
4x4parts.com are really good guys and make good parts. I had one of their lifts in the Pathmaker back in the day and recommend them to anyone. Check out what they have on offer.
Great video thanks! Noticed youre running it without a front stabilizer bar- how's the handling, did you do that for a particular reason? Working on adjusting suspension on my '95 D21 and I was thinking of removing the stabilizer bar as well.
Its literally the first thing I cut off and throw away with every Nissan I buy. Front and Rear Sway bars get cut out and tossed. Yes I get more body roll in the corners buuuut I also get about 3" more travel in the front and rear which is well worth it when you have to little travel to begin with. Its not a sports car so I'm not speed racering on the roads anyways so I don't miss the sway bars at all!
would I have to do an alignment after this?
Its a good idea to as the tires will typically toe in a bit when you crank the torsion bars that high. Its quite easy to do yourself if its purely an offroad car. If you're driving it on the highway its worth getting it done professionally.
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Awesome!
I own a D21 and i am struggling to reach the inside top bolt of the torsion bar anchor. there's no room for a socket cause it fouls on the half shaft, what did you use to remove those? thanks
Box end wrench to grab one side, the other end of the bolt I usually cant fit a wrench on so I end up jamming a flat head screwdriver in between the bolt head and the arm until it binds up and holds it good enough to loosen. It takes a bit of fiddling.
@@PathmakerProductions crafty man! Thanks sir I'll try to do that
It worked!!!!! Thanks@@PathmakerProductions. Granted all bolts were seized and i had to use all the WD40 and all the cussing but now i got a leveled hardbody. thanks again
protip, wd40 is really crappy lube. I'm a much bigger fan of "Deep Creep" it seems to work a lot better!
I don't speak English very well, but from what I understand, did you put the front coils of zj 1998?? My intention for now is to mount 2" Supplements to the originals but for my D21 Pathfinder 93 I can't get them.. I'll adapt some for zj then... Thanks!
Correct. Those are Front ZJ coils that I cut the ears off and they give a 2" lift in the rear compared to stock Nissan springs.
@@PathmakerProductions thanks you for your answer, do you happen to know the diameter of the spirals al such? Because I suppose that the diameter is different in the ears than the rest of the espiral...
I don't know off the top of my head. The ZJ coils are thicker than the Pathfinder ones, so are a bit stiffer. The overall size of the coils are the same tho, so they fit in the stock coil buckets on the Nissan!
What? How did you get 38” i did this and maxed out at 34” front and rear or do you have bigger tires?
Pardon? Im running 34"x10" SuperSwamper TSL LTBs on this rig. My other Nissan has 42" tires but it also has a SAS with one-ton axles.
@@PathmakerProductions oh i see my tires are 31x10.5 that’s how you got 38”
how many splines did you turn the torsion bar on?
I never count, probably 4 but it all depends on how far yours have been cranked already and how far they've sagged. Its hard to keep track unless you mark them out, also the two sides can sag differently, so I typically pop the anchors off, twist it down as far as I can while still being able to get the nut on the adjustment bolt and then cranking it back up from there.
Just after you've re constructed the whole bloody rotten frame
I've got a video where I repair that too...........can't expect perfect for $800!
Would love to watch it, that's what im into atm, cutting out and patching pieces from the rails. The body is rotten beneath either. Paid about 1500 bucks though, a 1000 bucks overpaid as i can see now, but keen to save her
Wait I just got a ‘90 WD21 with 156k miles in great shape. Doing a suspension lift is this easy? That didn’t seem like anything haha
Theres not a lot too it. If you buy a store bought lift kit it’ll have new a-arms and stiffer torsion bars but for a budget build like this they aren’t essential!
Ive done multiple long overlanding trips on this combo and no issues.
@@PathmakerProductionsthanks for the reply man! Yeah I want to do a 3” suspension lift on it, would like to buy a lift kit but I’m pretty intimidated. Didn’t think it was something I could do. I don’t need to compress springs or do anything crazy? Just replace all the parts that come with the lift kit with the existing parts on the pathy?
@@PathmakerProductionsI’m also not sure what kits would actually be compatible with my 90’ wd21. Does it need to be a kit specifically designed for the wd21?
No need to compress springs, if you jack up the rear and let the axle fully droop the springs just drop right out. Back in the day I ran a 3" suspension lift from 4x4parts.com and they are great guys and sell good parts and their kit will come with everything you need. I'd recommend against going with the kit that comes with the Rancho shocks as they're very stiff and handle terribly, I've been much happier with my bilstein 5125s over the years. Yes you'll need a WD21 kit as a D21 lift will be the same for the front but the d21 pickups have leaf springs in the rear not coil springs so the rear won't be compatible. Stay away from Calmini (quick google search will explain a lot) and Rough Country (really cheap parts).
No special tools needed, just hand tools and a jack, I did my 3" suspension lift in my parents driveway back in 2002 with nothing more than a socket set and a jack and no knowledge.
@@PathmakerProductions that’s awesome man!! Since I made my comment yesterday I decided I’m going to get that bilstein lift kit from 4x4 parts. Your reply only further confirms that. This video is a huge reason for giving me the confidence to do it so thanks. 4x4 parts needs to get you some kick back lol also is that pan hard rod drop down bracket necessary? I just learned what a panhard rod is lol
My dad recently purchased a nissan just like yours, same year and same color, we did a 2 inch body lift with 35s and that thing looks nice.
Question, where did you get the crossbars and roof rack from?
The crossrails came with it but they are Thule brand. I dont think theyre vehicle specific but like the generic drip rail clamps. The basket I bought off marketplace for $40
This is so sick, puts a lot of jeep taco and 4Runner owners to shame lol.
Dont need to spend big dollars, just a bit of knowledge and you can do amazing things with a Nissan!
Did you weld your front diff?
No sir, the steering would last like 10seconds with a welded front. IFS and welded diffs dont play very nicely together!
Woah that frame is rusty!
Sure is, thats why the whole rig only cost $800 but its all about cheap fun. I have a much nicer Pathfinder for actual wheeling.
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is it me or is his steering wheel upside down .....
Thats all stock, I've never removed the wheel on this Nissan yet! Cranking the torsion bars doesn't change steering wheel angle.
@@PathmakerProductions amm I know it doesn't change the steering .
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Hello from Russia, I have one question. Who don`t you have 21 beavers yet with such a frame. I have a Nissan Terrano WBYD21/ The same Pathinder At the moment. I am Carrying out a body restoration and frame replacement. Because the is rotten. And in fact, it is not safe to move with such a rotten paradise. Since it can simply fall apart under load. Yes I write with the help of a translation, + I started learning English from scratch I don`t understand a lot of things yet, verbs etc. So do not judge strictly for writing mistakes. And if there is a video about the restoration of the machine, you can throw a link it would be interesting to watch. By the way, i`m putting the front springs from TLC 80 On the raer axle.
Hi Welcome, I'm not sure who is doing restoration videos on Nissan Pathfinders. I do videos about them but my upgrades are all about doing the cheapest possible things to get out in the forest to show that you don't need to spend a lot of money to go 4x4ing! They are very simple to work on, I recommend finding a second one to buy so you can take the parts off of it and put them on your first Nissan, thats the easiest way to restore them for cheap!
Also my front tires look like this \ / now. What do
That means you cranked it so far up your wheels are out of alignment, typically you want to lower the torsion bars back down a little bit. Check the two bolts holding on each A-Arm, you may have too many alignment spacers and will have to remove some.
@@PathmakerProductions thanks