DUALTRON CITY - 15" inch eScooter Dual Motor 65 km/h
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I bought a City last year. A few thoughts on the battery: I think Dualtron's original intent was for the buyer to get a second battery and swap it off during the ride, eliminating the need to find somewhere to plug it in. However, that battery is far too heavy to carry on your back while riding. The only real advantage to the removable battery is that it can be taken out of the scooter to be charged elsewhere instead of having to haul the entire scooter to a plug. One thing I noticed is that the battery door is razor sharp on the edges. You have to be careful when it's open. Last week when I went to remove the battery to charge it, the door slammed down on my hand and I had to have my thumb stitched up.
I hope that Dualtron will offer a more powerful battery for sale to replace the current one, however I also think the City hasn't sold well and that Dualtron will be reluctant to sell more accessories for it. Speaking of which, I think the reason they didn't sell the City with a foot rest is because they are expecting people to buy seats for it instead. I've seen quite a few people with seats on their City. By selling it "blank" they allow you to choose either a foot rest or a seat.
I converted a normal kick scooter with 16" tires to a electric and it rides 'sublime'. Even without any suspension I actually prefer riding it on gravel or dirt paths than to paved roads. For me personally this Dualtron City is a VERY interesting scooter.
Its so cool you have done this! I just mentioned doing this today on another forum, but I had not known of anyone who had done so.👍🏼
@@Jimmyfreitas35 I need to do a video about it. It's nothing special, but it's super cool to ride. Thanks!!
For the price, it's missing front directional lights & a bright 2000 lumin headlight!!!No thanks.
Adam on an escooter?! Love it!
DT customers asked for better pricing, a decent stem, controllers that don't blow up, proper display, bluetooth connectivity, smoother throttle, water proofing, a proper headlight and turn signals. Dualtron answers back with 15 inch wheels, LED lighting up the wazoo and higher prices.
This is a hard no for me.
100%
Hate the finger throttle too
@@davidroberts6594 The whole throttle setup is SO cheap, and SO outdated now. Literally garbage.
Asking for both better and cheaper... Unlikely.
@@gabriellundmark You say that as if Dualtron's are reasonably priced relative to their competitors, or that the quality is much better than their competitors. They have room to move on both fronts judging from the two I have owned...
Here in Canada, I would be paying almost $4000 for this. There is a lot more performance in other brands for the same or less money. I do like the larger wheels, I bet they roll much more smoothly over rough surfaces and have better control in the corners. I really like the look of this, but I'm cheap so I will wait.
Because the wheels are so large you don't need a steering damper to prevent wobbling at high speed. This will be my next scooter.
I find some wobble on mine at 25 mph - but it doesn't do that if I'm accelerating - only when no power applied.
I like this new trend of bigger wheel-circumference on scooters. Thanks for the info.
Scooters are evolving into motorcycles lmao
Not ironically in my country any scooter over 4kw is already considered a motorcycle, and over 1kw needs a special government permit to drive and the process for acquiring this authorization is the same as obtaining a license to drive a motorcycle but with this authorization you cannot drive motorcycles, extremely confusing
love the 15''
Im so sad at the wasted space on those rims, imagine the potential torque with motors twice the diameter 😅
and mainly the wasted width aswell, they're 15" but they aint 3.5" to 4" wide
@@BH4x0r
that would reduce speed and range
@@winniepeg2020 not by much, my escooter on the same speed as my "low rolling resistance" tires (1.25" wide 28" Schwalbe Marathon Plus') consumes about 300-350W, where my ebike does 270-300W, and my scooter has 11" 4" wide offroad tires (that inherently are less efficient than street tires), and while obv standing up and catching more air on the scooter (this is both at 25kph)
dunno about higher speeds cuz then i don't check my phone (eventho its on the handlebars)
Amen glad you're riding with Dualtron City 22. Those roads break down so many tires flats! Can't wait to ride with sound. 🛣️🏙️📻🎶
Look at the dog from 23:20 on. It's like "WTF"! It reacts to it right away. Maybe the high pitched sound of the motor??
Incredible!!beats my 10 by 3 inch tires anyday ! Hope all scooters will start doing this ! Be safe ride safe and #awareness #teamworkmakesthedreamwork #REDEMPTION #faith #family #forgiveness #endcruetly #xtremesportstherapy
Everytime I ride my scooter, I always wish for a bigger tire. I wish to have one of these someday. Great video. 👍
I have a City. I got it less than a month ago. I think the ride quality is pretty good. It handles nicely. Braking is weak. Acceleration is weak. Top speed is weak. Like you, I have mine in the maximum settings 100% of the time and I was bored in less than 20 miles. I've already voided the warranty and been upgrading and modding things.
Hey let me know what kind of mods you do! I've got one on the way and want to do the same. Thanks!
I was worried that the brakes would disappoint me, but with Regen. braking set to max, I'm very impressed with how quickly this thing stops my 235 pounds
@@perfectbill1550 I have 203mm brake rotors on mine now. The brakes are significantly improved and I don't depend on regen at all. Here's my latest video update on what I'm doing to my City if you care.
czcams.com/video/uA-PnMFYcPw/video.html
Nice overview. Can't wait to get mine delivered. Larger wheels to soak up city riding is well named.
awesome vid and your right it needs a bigger battery but nice to know dualtron is improving
15" ....... Finally a scooter that give some confidence in city !
This dultron like all others dultrons are single stem. All that money for something that’s just like a $600 eScooter just a bit faster .
It’s nothing new guys it’s all hype
@@ZueTubeTv so what scooter should i get then?
@@alejandroramos3206
Don't. Get an electric bike. MUCH safer and can go places where a scooter can't. Add panners(side bags) to them also. Luna 2 is a BEAST. Fry is another company. Aventon is a good one too. Unless you pick one of these up CHEAP I would stay clear of them. Ebikes have more for your more for your money period.
@@rxonmymind8362 I don't know about that I have the dual mini which serves its purpose I have the dualtron ultra 2 which is an adrenaline junkie key dream so you have to remember that when you go drive these things you're going for the adrenaline rush standing up is a whole different experience than even my crazy fast motorcycle that I own I also own a cool E bike which is a rad that does 24 miles an hour so I don't know I think the bigger scooters serve a purpose especially if you really want to fill the speed standing up they all have their purpose
this is exactly what I need honestly I have anxiety riding scooters that have less than 10 inch wheels it just doesn't feel stable but this one seems more fun and it's already on discounted price here in local shop might as well go for it thanks for your review
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I've had one for a month. It's a nice smooth ride. Very stable and no need for a steering damper. If you are looking for a sedate scooter that isn't quick, this will suit you fine.
@@de-bodgery I find my steering getting a little squirrely at 25 mph - but only when I have no power to the throttle. I'm not sure if letting the air out of my front tire and refilling it again a little better seated would help.
@@perfectbill1550 I rode mine full out down hill...so about 40 mph and never noticed anything even when coasting. There is a good chance you are feeling wheel imbalance. VERY first mod I did was pull out the tubes, seal up the rims, install low profile right angle valve stems and go tubeless. I have been doing so many mods to mine. It hasn't been ridable since March. As a result, I have no idea what improvement going tubeless has provided other than historically it's always better to be tubeless. I'm assuming this will help my City too.
@@perfectbill1550 I have my Xiaomi Mi Pro 2 and it feels stable mostly on flat paved and some uneven surfaces it feels decently stable not the best. But you can feel the scooter shaking and vibrating just a little.
And no i dont have solid tyres as i only use air filled nylon tyres with sealeant so far no punctures or flats and good ride.
And yeah my scooter goes upto 21mph or 35kph after hacking it not as fast as 25mph which is your scooter but still plenty of fun on the road by the way what model is your scooter and the name off it!
Great review my guy , nobody got a video on the dultron city I just look yesterday . Your clutch my guy
if only dualtron sold the frames alone of those scooters, it would be revolutionary. imagine this scooter with a giant battery, stupid powerful controllers and motors. it would be literally amazing.
This is the only right size of wheels for roads pot holes . I do hope the competitors are behind the corner.
Very interesting concept. I've ridden a kick scooter with large wheels and it does make all the difference. The only thing I'd be concerned about is the size which I'd expect to be fairly massive with those 15" wheels. And the weight. And since we're talking Dualtrons, the price :-)
91 pounds, very long, $4,000 in Canada
Turn signals should extend outward more and should be arrow shaped.
Scooters are basically stand up motorcycles when you get into 60/72v. Regulation and licensing will come at some point, but for now it’s a nice loophole.
Ouah great 😍😍
Incroyable 🖖😍
when I saw first videos I wondered if handlebar isnt too low. This one have it raised, so I guess I was right.
Great review! Covered what I wanted know. 👍
I thought you weren’t going to do scooter reviews anymore? I prefer your unicycle reviews over everyone else ( your unicycle reviews are the best) and your scooter reviews are good too.
Really why?
This video got 5 times more views than average video about EUC , think about it .
I like that it doesn't have a foot rest in the back because I need more space to have my kid in the front. And I only ride with her in front in bike paths, never on the roads, and cruise slow in case someone feels like chopping me with the cancel ax.
The part connecting the deck to the stem is taller than it needs to be. You can see the front swingarm at a much steeper angle than the back and even then the front of the deck is lower than the back. Really odd, this is the only thing I find really off-putting.
The front mudguard looks great, i disagree - it needs to be low at the back, which it is. The Zoom brakes are full hydraulic, i have them on my Victor and they are excellent. Lack of footplate sucks i agree. Decks look really short, and tyres look really narrow.
Monowheel is all I touch ? No ? 🤔🤣😂😉
Monowheel is all I touch for free 😄
Great e-scooter , I guess it is very stable acording to huge wheels
Oh, breaking traffic law internationally now ?
I love the EUC coverage but this scooters nice! Great for the average commuter and I bet it's safer in the cities compared to other scoots with those bigger wheels.
the tires should be thicker and wider
the "gentleman scoot"🎩
@Wrong way - Can you please review a company called Solar electric scooters - they are a UK company - based in london, they have a scooter called the ff2 limited edition - specs are great and it very cheap- currently at £2100- has specs as this dualtron but the scolar ff2 limied edition has better breaks.
Nice fastride and wrong way in one Video.. Safe ride you all
15" now we are talking!
I saw the price. We are no longer talking😂
as usual, he's making me wanna buy one
I like this scooter, only a bigger battery would make me want one
Great scooter but it’s very specific target market. This is the scooter that needs to be stored in a garage as it’s not portable and u can keep and charge the battery inside, great for commuting, however yet again another powerful scooter from a major player comes out with no built in high mounted headlight, no indicator lighting from the front, and no decent ip rating. Surely this was the scooter to nail those features but again some missed opportunity here. Scooters you can safely commute on in almost any weather and at night with full suspension is what people are after. It’s not all about most watts and power. Over to Apollo and the upcoming Apollo city then….let’s see what they come up with, if the phantom features are anything to go by then I’m hopeful!
Looking forward to this.
I didn’t even know that this 🛴 model even existed! Wow….I love those bigger tires 🛞😍
15:04 Electric Scooter with a loud horn is better because people who (drive a car) and (ride a motorcycle) can hear who's coming.
Your voice vibrato is proportional to the road bumps and it is acceptable.
Why are there no reviews for this scooter?. There is like 2 on CZcams. Wth?
I like the way you stopped for that pedestrians at the crosswalk! 👍🏼 I do the same when I notice them. It usually helps other to notice them too. ❤️
I have it I got 49mph it's very fast for tires that big
Beast!
👍🏻 thanks for Video. Topp Scooter
No hills test! Do it!
Amazing and those big tires are the future for scooters! BUT the price is WAY too high!
It's much safer to ride it.Specially on an unfamiliar road in the dark as potholes & bumpscan surprise you in a bad way!!!
Looks great but doesn't offer enough for the price.😮
Scooters need to look much cleaner, the wires need hiding & do away with the nasty index finger throttle. Take a leaf out Boosted Rev’s design!
Wow Paris France looks very beautiful...Hello from San Francisco California. 🌉🌉🌃🏙🌁🌁
i'm from France and i wish i could go to SF like for me Paris and overall french cities are depressing and "grey" colour add to that feeling. Anyway, don't know why i'm telling this
Ooh La La French🥖
La baguette!
Ok. Спасибо за поездку в городском трафике. Хорошо бы посмотреть как он на off-road.
After one year later do you still suggest it? By the way I have navee n65 without suspension. But this dualtron city seems like navee in terms of not being able to adequately obsorb the tremors.
Square Wave Controllers - Instant Fail.
This butten ? Nothing??? Yes tel my wath is this Button!!
nice squeeky brakes 😁
I like the bigger wheels too, I'd , like them to be wide though and also, obviously, anything below 40 Ah, is not doing it for me neither. Also, the lack of proper suspension would be a showstopper for me too. Yet beside that, I am thinking bigger is better, to a certain degree. Maybe a 14" wide wheel, well dampened and with a huge battery. And then maybe even 2*5kw motors and voila, you can count me in.
What top speed could you reach? I test rode it and it hit 30mph. I weigh 180lbs
The bigger the wheel the better, I hope its tubuless wheels with the inside gel like on the kaabo king gt.
What gel you mean slime or am I missing something, I should be slimjng my vsett 10+ ASAP btw
@@sohaibalmahagri589 there talking about the new run flat tires with the Jel on the inside, they come on the new dualtron lineups
Small battery and short deck is a killer for me. Otherwise I think this is the way. One of the rentals in uk - Neuron - runs scooters with similar size of tyres and it's deffo an advantage over standard xiaomi clones.
15 inch wheel give better take bumps and hole etc everywhere and also give better milleage on 1 charge cos they have less rolling resist 👍🏻but i more like deck closer to ground 👍🏻 Beside this and price yea best scoot on market like for me 👍🏻 perfect battery size however i will change also one more stuff = only 1 engine at rear but with more torque 👌🏻
Look more funs Adam 👍👍❣️
Hi Mr wrong way have you ever driven the bronco Xtreme 11? How does it compare to the dualtron city I know the bronco is faster but I wanted to know which one handles better which one has a better ride which one feels more stable?
New tesla 4680 battery would be awesome for this.
Hi Adam
Awesome channel ,love it !! iv been watching it for forever now .........quick Q for you ,I have a first gen wolf king and am now looking at the Nami max 2 or the thunder 2 and was just wondering on first the BUILD quality between them and second the suspension and the ride as I’m pretty light at 76kg and do 50% on road and 50% on light dirt trails .Any input would be awesome.
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Cool scooter, but with a 360° cam it would be even better, we can see the city all around. ☺
I hope I can put a Dualtron seat 💺 on this! 😍
Yes, but you need a special bracket between the scooter and seat.
I have always wondered the difference in ride with cartridge suspension vs spring vs hydraulic shocks. Anyone have experience with all types or at least two for comparison?
Hey Adam - I really appreciate this video because I'm seriously considering the City - Have the Thunder II which I really like but looking for something a bit more tame. Jut wish the City had more range. BTW - Which Leatt Knee pads are you wearing? Thanks again. Great Video
Hey mobayguay, I’ve been riding my Dualtron City for a year now and loving it! Here are some of my thoughts;
The kick stand spring is weak and just an accident waiting to happen.
I can’t see any use for the rear hazard light. The rear turn signal switch is too small and not self-canceling. No front turn signal so I added an aftermarket.
The hand grips rotate and I had to put zip ties on them.
The seat mount looks unfinished so I made a cover plate.
Cable wrap on the front is very nice but was not done on the rear wire so I put on my own.
Stem wobbles and creaks a bit so you have to lubricate it with lithium grease every 3 rides or so.
Some have commented about the motor noise but I rather like the sound of raw power, lol.
Overall, an amazing scooter and I don’t plan on selling it. I am looking to purchase an Apollo Pro out later this year as it seems to have all the features the Dualtron City is missing, and then some. Admittedly the Pro is not as sharp looking as the City.
@@lawrences517 Thanks fo your real user reviews. Do you still suggest it? I'm thinking of buying a new one, I think it was released last year. I wonder if they have made some improvements in the new production. What do you think, is it worth buying? By the way, the dealer will give me a new display screen as a gift.
And now? Will all manufacturers copy it again so you can say, look here, it's cheaper too 😂😂
Bigger battery?
We here in Israel most scooters have 48/13
And more advanced 48/18
And in bicycle 48/20
I just bought 60/27 and yes as u say not enough for long ride
I wait for the KS-18L review ;)
Soon :)
@@mr_wrongway Wohoo, great to hear! I'm glad you've responded :D. Great content btw, no1 channel in EUC topic ✌️
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Hello , the "door" from battery is plastic or metal ?
I think it was metal
I hope Minimotors makes a new scooter from the speedway line I have a speedway 5 I really hope they make a speedway 6 in the future.
So you have an external mic hooked up to your GoPro/Chesty(not inside your helmet)? 🤔
I have a rode wireless go on my chest
@@mr_wrongway Ohhhhhhh ok.
Is there any empty space inside of the battery house? Like so we could hide a GPS tracker or something?
Yes
No Paris, it's Levallois 😉😉
But is not water resistant, how could they miss that and for that price you can get the burn e 2
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I returned for more RAPPING. I was excited when I saw this on OhManDan but after watching ride footage I'm not excited about it anymore. I am happy to start seeing bigger wheels.
Dualtron BlueTran Lightning next please ...
Does this compare to the nami?
Throttle seems too twitchy for city use. Like most Dualtrons and power scooters.
Yes, but you can change this response very much with changes to the P Settings.
Hello Adam i love your videos and im a huge fan of electric scooters, my favoritt scooters is the kaabo scooter. My biggest wish right now is that if u could review the new «Kaabo wolf king GT pro» scooter that would be so great and I would be so happy if u could done that.
Are scooters with such a high top speed not illegal in France? And how about eucs?
Yes they are. 25km/h max in France.
how heavy is the battery?
Nice scooter but I wish it had a option for attachable seat.
It does
Nice🤩
Tubeless tires ?
r the tires tubless?
Staircase doomed