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I was about to go on a 20 hr rant.
Ive seem nuke in war thunder (in my game) only once, and the guy was on our team. It was pretty emotional for our entire team, the fact the music, the gunshots, stopped, the silence moments after it, was pretty creepy. Enemies didn't even really attempt to shoot bomber though, neither one out of 5 enemy airplanes tried to. I don't know were they just unaware or they accepted the fate.
Zoltan, Im South African and the JAS 39 flag is accurate because ive seen it with my eyes, i believe its something to do with how the flag looks when you charge into battle holding it
You forgot to mention in the new test drive area you can break the side off the houses and drive in like they are a garage, now that be awesome if that gets put into the live games cause that way you can hide from CAS and even enemy tanks.
The skull is for situations where u can’t see for shit if the enemy died or not, as well as across the map if multiple people are shooting at them.
Megatron is the name of an actual Chally 2 in service with the BAF
The Challenger 2 used by the Armoured Test Development Unit. It has had just about every armour pack equipped to it, it's even been tested with the 1500hp MTU engine (since removed). It's also tested prototype HESH and APFSDS rounds that are unnamed. It's had multiple types of suspension fitted and is the only Challenger 2 which has the 2F package equipped as of right now. Megatron also once had a 140mm rifled gun and underwent firing tests with it, however it didn't produce good results. May also be the vehicle which was modified into Streefighter 2 spec but I could be wrong on that, as there are other Challenger 2s that were used for testing in the early days (Such as 62-KK-62 being turned into the CLIP)
@@yumyunrangLOAL It’s a beast I love it
@@yumyunrangLOALMegatron never had the 1500hp engine, it never had the 140mm cannon and it certainly wasn't one of the streetfighters. It's just the testbed for whatever TES upgrades the Army wants to slap on them.
It was an absolute fucking monster at Tankfest this year. I think she's up to 85 tonnes now.
lmao i love that
@yumyunrangLOAL which streetfighter 2 spec? with or without the absolute bonkers addition that is roof mounted brimstones?
Megatron is the nickname of the test tank at Bovington, which that one is based on. They use it to test new and experimental features, so it doesn't really have one version, but I guess they just picked one and gave it that name as a little nod to it.
It also had a transformer icon at one time.
It's also more accurate to call the tech tree TES "Megatron" since the real test tank currently has the forest thermal camouflage, which should also really be applied to the addon armour and stuff
Gaijin giving Britain accurate MBTs? Never@@jackmino729
The flag being "backwards" on one side is something that a lot of nations do, as for some nations there is a specific way the flag needs to be shown. For example with the US flag "Stars lead the way", meaning that when on something that moves the star field portion of the flag is placed on the "forward" side of the vehicle (or person). It wouldn't surprise me if the South African flag is meant to be shown with the bound edge of the flag in a similar position.
It is best to imagine an infrantryman with a flag on a pole charging the enemy position. When you look at him from either side, this is how the flag would look like to you.
Swedish WW2 tanks also had flags that were "blowing in the wind" painted on each side
Yep, the RAF does the same. Its "fin flash" stripes are always red in the front, white in the middle (optional), and blue at the back.
Same for the Italian ANR planes in game
Don't works for german flag
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The skull icon was mostly likely introduced to differentiate a killed enemy from a hit enemy, which only displays the normal arrow thingy.
Not sure, though. I only thought of it because I sometimes push an enemy behind cover, which is being hit by friendly (and getting pinged by the arrow), only to discover it was already killed.
Or, they just added it to signify a killed enemy, idk.
Technically that feature did exist before in tank RB. It just only showed on the mini map when a tank was destroyed, which considering how poor distance and direction gauging just from those short seconds is wasn't really helpful.
@@strategicperson95 *strains eyes to see if Tank Destroyer symbol is slightly lighter in colour before pushing corner*
It’s helpful to me imo because the scout icon would stick around a dead tank for a few seconds, so seeing that a last hit killed it is very helpful
Im new to GRB, and the hit enemy icon always confuses me when the icon shows up on a destroyed enemy, so this feature helps for players like me who is also blind in GRB and get info if that enemy was dead or not (i was Air RB only until a week ago)
I love the new skull icon, I can't tell you how many wasted shells I've fired on marked targets through thermals or partially covered by brush that turned out to be dead wrecks.
I am SO happy about the backup change. Recently I had use a 90 to 120 millimeter cannon and kill tanks for the battle pass, and my only vehicle that worked was the m48, but I kept forgetting to activate backups. So nice.
Flags are generally painted in reverse on the other side of the aircraft.
Its related to how the flag moves in the wind (if you look at the flag from one side, it will be reversed when you look at it from the other side), and something about how the flag cannot be depicted as "retreating" relative to the aircraft direction of travel
I thought that was common on tanks, but it's the first time I hear that for planes
@@delfinenteddyson9865 It's common for most flags, regardless of where they're depicted. Look at any US servicemember that takes flag rules seriously, for example. They'll have the flag in reverse if it's worn on the right arm.
@@MrBlueBurd0451 interesting, cheers!
The white outlines of planes going into a cloud have disappeared. So it is harder to spot them through clouds. Also, your own plane doesn't have those low-res outlines when you look at clouds (these are way more noticeable when time is set to "Dawn" or Sunset)
Also, some sounds have noticeable changes, but I cannot find them in the change-log :/ but I can really hear the difference between the new sonic boom and the old sonic boom. The new one has the punchy double boom.
These changes are actually "hidden", as I don't see anyone talking about them, but they are veery good quality-of-life changes :D and it annoyed me so much XD
Thank God that outline is gone
The flag on the south african gripen being "flipped" is pretty standard practice as you'd want it pointing forwards to show advancement instead of pointing backwards to show retreat
yeah, flags generally are the pole-side forward, as if they were actually flown on uniforms and vehicles, instead of their "print orientation"
We don't do it to show advancement or retreat, we do it because we paint the flags as if it is on a flag pole, so from which ever angle you look at it you can see that the flag is always "streaming" backwards on the plane.
The volcano map also has a floating tree on the left side of the map, the collision models for the trees also seem to be bigger than the tree.
Cool little detail, sometimes in the hanger, the ME163's little propellor will spin on its own. Not sure if it's a bug, but it only happens when you swap from ground forces hanger to air forces hanger
it happens all the time no matter what i do 😊
2 bugs I found while playing the new update
In the map "Mountain Ridge, China" if you go to the top right of the map and look to the top, you'll see that part of the mountain is glitched
When you spawn in the Pe-2-110, there is a visual glitch that'll cause the flaps, landing gear, and airbrake to look like they're deployed
1:32 the flag is “backwards” so that the part closest to where the flagpole would be is closest to the front edge of the tail. This is so the flag always flies the correct way with relation to the direction of travel
The Nuke spawning in is a cool mini-game for everyone to play. Of course shoot it down if you need to. Personally, I check the stat card of who's dropping it. If they're a high WR chad player, the game is on. If not, they get a free pass to the battlefield from me.
People who complain about the enemy shooting down the nuke bomber are disillusioned. That's the game, it's not gonna be a free win just cause you worked hard.
But they do need to do something about blue on blue. The nuke bomber shouldn't be able to be TK'd
My only problem is my own team shooting me down because they want to prolong the match... And losing it in the end.
i like the skull icon for dead tanks, as it makes telling whether an ally has killed an enemy tank or just hit them, since before it just used the regular hit marker
Interesting thing about gripen is that gaijin actually cared about its unique fly by sound. When gripen passes by, you can hear it's turbine whine
The reason why the flag is backwards on the Gripen is because South Africa paints the flags as if it is on a flag pole, so from which ever angle you look at it you can see that the flag is always "streaming" backwards on the plane.
Its that case for all modern aircraft. Check some images of American Airlines or Qantas planes for example. The right hands flags are always reversed.
The F2H can now drop its drop-tanks. I hope they add this feature to all the other aircraft with un-droppable drop tanks. Off the top of my head, the F9Fs, F-84s, Yak-17, Mig-9(l), Venom still have un-droppable fuel tanks. A long time ago I remember N1K2s also had them but they were removed
Oh that’s very nice
Could they even drop them irl? They probably have a purpose of helping aerodynamics in some cases. The same with F-16 always having missiles on the wing tips even during non-combat training flights or air shows
IIRC the F2H could have its wingtip tanks removed. However, planes like the F9F could not.
for me, if our team still have plenty of tickets left I would fight to the bitter end.
But if we don't have enough, I would salute the enemy nuke's achievement and accept defeat
only the F5E gets the radar gun sight the F5c doesn't have a radar
I've started taking out the AMX-11 and have quickly realized that people just don't know what it is. It's really funny being treated like a helpless attacker when it's a maneuverable, if underpowered, fighter-bomber.
Also, don't forget, chinese tank's 12.7 mm used to not have the stat card and they just added it this patch
1:23 many nations do that, I’ve heard that this is done to sort of mimic how the wind would be blowing the flag if it were an actual flag
Lots of very cool additions this update along with sound, visual effects and backups. gotta love that Gaijin is also making a 2024 Roadmap as well!
But thanks for the video for us always Zoltan!
Another one i just noticed. The F2H2 has now got its tip tanks as drop tanks
Also funny thing. The Challenger 3 Technology Demonstrator both has missing armour in the turret leaving it massively vulnerable frontally, and has the wrong engine. (Gets the CV12-6A engine like the other Challenger 2s, should get the CV12-9A engine developed under HAAIP)
2:18 be like:
Pilot: "Sir why don't we have ordinance on our aircraft? weren't we suposed to bomb that base?"
Commander: "..."
If its a friendly nuke, i escort, if its an enemy nuke i try to shoot it down.
the reason why the jas39c S.A. flag is the other wway around is because it pictures a flag waving to the direction of the planes going, like if theres wind blowing a flag, the flag will wave the other way right? (i think thats why)
yeah I just found another glitch, the VT-4A's turret side ERA somehow clips through and stays in place even when ur turret is moving
I've been buying the crew training with that button for like 5 years now...
I always look forward to seeing your videos. Always a fresh breath of air when your content come out
1:24 in the US we have a similar thing where the back of the flag facing forward to basically show we're charging into battle. Cause when you're running with a flag it's gonna look like that.
The South African flag on the the Grippen is backward because it’s supposed to be waving in the wind behind the plane. If it was a real flag. Every country does this
The megatron name comes from a Challenger 2 that is based at the Bovington Tank Museum for tankfest, it's from the Armoured Trials and Development Unit (ADTU) I believe
The challenger 2 “megatron” is the name of an actual tank that’s is used to test out all kinds of things.
I love the new skull icon, I can't tell you how many wasted shells I've fired on marked targets through thermals or partially covered by brush that turned out to be dead wrecks.
I’m pretty sure the skull icon always appeared, but before it appeared the same as when someone was spotted
Also another little problem with the gripen, on launch day it had 512 rounds of ammo. A number completely pulled from nowhere. Thankfully it's been reduced to its actual amount of 120
Though it is missing some countermeasures, it's only using 4 out of the 5 internal BOP dispecers, it should have 6 more large caliber countermeasures and 50 small caliber countermeasures
The F2H-2 was stripped of its fuel tanks, they can be put on with a modification. Just a nice QOL addition
When it comes to the Nuke debate , Mines out of spite , my first time I got a nuke , I got shot down , now I shoot down every nuke I see
Another thing is that the polish crew voice were fixed as before they would call Tank destroyers ground to air projetcile
tbh the skull in RB is a good addition, differentiates a kill from a hit/crit and avoids reload times on recently dead targets just to be sure. Quality of life for people not in a squadron/ on external comms.
I mean if he's dead you'd know
@@williewilson2250 yeah no, in choke point on city maps on fire able to shoot back and dead are seriously hard to pick.
@@williewilson2250 It's extremely useful for CAS, saves a lot of time not chasing a chevron that was killed.
@@sgthop idk it's just easy for me to know when someone dies, but if it helps people ig
the skull is there bicause when you get notified that there is a tank you wont cruise to kill a dead body. Its like a comunication without microphones.
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haven't seen this channel yet, good first impression! i liked this!
2:53
Me: WE FIGHT TO THE DEATH BANZAI!
that backup spawn thing is really something nice to see.
Some of the ordinances on the JAS39C are offset forward or backward on particular pilons. Example, one of the 1000lb bombs on the inner pilon and a skyflash on one of the outer. Still looking for more offset ordinance.
If I remember correctly the sk60b also has that mirror glitch on the right side mirror
There's a visual bug, possibly missing textures, on the unlockable "Late camouflage pattern" camo for the US PBY-5A, where the protruding splashers on the nose that help prevent spray coming up over the bow of the plane while its in water, and also double as a place to put your feet, they are completely black, the spinners on the front of the propellers also are jet black, the exhaust pipes, the navigation light covers on the wing tips, and parts of the rear landing gear assembly also are missing textures. These parts that are jet black on the unlockable camo look normal on the default camo.
Also they modified the wheels on the US and British Catalinas (can't speak for the Russian one, don't have it), giving them spoked wheels like the newer French Catalina, instead of the covered centres. Which messed up the decals I had on them (-_-)
Another thing to note is they changed the height on the front wheel of the US and British PBY's to match the height of the newer French late model PBY. Now instead of being 'level' with the two rear wheels the front wheel protrudes ever so slightly more from the hull giving the aircraft a more 'nose up' position while landed.
Personally I find this makes it (slightly) more difficult to land, as normally you're coming in from above with a nose down attitude and whereas before you could 0º pitch the plane to plant all 3 landing gear on the ground at the same time, now you have to pitch up further because otherwise the front gear will hit the ground first and bounce the plane. Pitching up further with the massive ironing board wing the PBY has which has no flaps means you're gonna start 'floating' and gaining altitude. Which is annoying to deal with.
Thats what I found with looking at the Catalinas.
Something else I found while test flying the British PBY, is that the airfield on the Britain map, that you'd take off from if you where in a traditional land aircraft, no longer appears on the minimap, or map, as an airfield, and landing on it does not repair or refuel you. It still has all the AI around it, just the landing strip marker on the map is gone and it doesn't function as an airfield.
Hey mate, did you know, in the hangar for this years winter, the characters are actually interactable and will do some goofy moves
In ground RB When shooting the mg from gunners sight it sounds muffled and on the British naval aircraft test drive on the aircraft carrier there would be seagulls in the distance
The Argentinian crew of tam even got the accent. Perfection
I salute them because I know how hard it is, took me 3 years to get one.
honestly kinda wish they keep the wee woop bug for the su27 it got a few chuckle out of me while i was doing f15 grind
What miles said
The skull thing I’m sure is to differentiate a ping for your team at an alive player and a player who’s been hit once and instantly died, that way you dont have to look at your minimap to see if the new ping on your screen is still alive or not
I always try to escort nuke bombers, ally or not. Sometimes the turrets just kill me but hey, the battle is already over.
1:57 this is because the British Army actually fields a Challenger 2 variant known as "Megatron!" As I understand, it's used somewhat of a test bed for new technology that could be introduced into production Challenger 2 models (such as new APS etc etc). Spends quite a lot of time in a configuration designed for urban combat, apparently, which might be why Gaijoobles decided that the Challenger 2 OES, which is apparently an urban combat model (like all of the other Challengers lol) needs the Megatron moniker.
The flag is supposed to be backwards. It’s supposed to look as if the flag is going forward through the air.
4:05 Ahh yes it finally got mentioned, and the same logic even applies to catapult aircraft on ships.
Thx for the summary
2:39 I accept my defeat and don't kill them. Getting a nuke is hard most of the times
Thanks for pointing out the funny sound of the Su-27
I don't want it to get fixed and now more attention will arise on it.
Thx for you're vids it makes my day
I'm not sure if it's just me but sometimes when I open up war thunder I get met with what you would see in the files for example being the new challenger which I see as Challenger_Megatron_Shop instead of what everyone else sees
I took the megatron just so i can say a autobot plays a megatron
Also they reduced the ammo count of the gripen yesterday, 5xx to 120
About shooting down nuke carriers, it goes like this for me:
I try to shoot them down if we are winning or a game seems winnable.
I don't shoot them down if we are losing badly.
And of course, I never shoot down friendlies.
Swedish t80U now has apdsfs in stock
First nuke got shot down and it was in a spookston video 😢
The Mirage 4000 issues has been present in the Viggen since ... since forever
The RakJPz 2 SS.11 also got a new Missile
1:47 Makes sense megatron is a tank when he transforms
1:28 I think (not certain tho) it’s intentional so the flag is always facing forward, same thing is on the space shuttle, really neat to see.
F-15J carrier hook doesn’t work in the test flight, but the F-15A does. Maybe because different carriers
Gladiator 2 being called a nimrod 2 is just comedic
if you use a tank with active protective devices on the test drive map theres a zone where at tank destroyer launchers missiles at you for testing such as the new premium m1
That's been there for a long time now
That's been there for nearly a year or more 🤣🤣
Do you know if the train on Flanders also changes depending on the era of combat, like some of the other assets now?
A "feature" you missed is the AI planes in Test drive no clipping through the mountains
I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere but Bradley got a firerate nerf and it's really freking annoying
Hello, the video you made is very good.
I'm Hungarian and I don't understand what happened to the Hungarian tech tree. There was the HE 112 B-1/U2 premium plane that the Germans had and at the same time it was also among the Russian premium planes with the same statistics, only in the picture it did not have a special Romanian marking (◔, ▀). Even Hungarian tanks (◔ZSU-57-2) fight under the insignia of the Hungarian Air Force (1990-now) and airplanes (◐Bf 109 F-4) under the insignia of the Royal Magyar Air Force (1942-1945). The new "Italian" tiger mug is shown in the picture with a Hungarian flag, but it is not separately marked with a sign of majesty. There are new crew voices (Spanish, Turkish, Hungarian) Although after repair it says "The cannon is repaired." but when the rotating part of the turret is damaged, it says "The missile's launcher is not working." (this is a joke if the vehicle does not have a missile. Or "The engine of the weapon is repaired." I hope that the Hungarian warship SMS Szent István will also be included in the game (on June 10, 1918, due to the torpedo hit by the Italian speedboat name : MAS 15 , sunk and the brother's ship Prinz Eugen didn't get there in time.)
The award for killing the nuke is like Rockstar giving you 2k for blowing up someone's cargo.
I love how out of all the things in the update there's people crying about not being able to lock IR missiles on the lava in the new map...
I have unfortunately learned from experience that planes crashing into you when you’re in a lightly armored vehicle now kills you. Go to air test drive a heavier plane and crash into one of the lighter vehicles, or even crash into the 2S6 in top tier USA air test drive.
I fight to the bitter end if there's a nuke. Purely out of spite
Thank you for doing us this service
Idk if it already was on almost useful facts, but A-10 has top collision lights slightly offset to the left and it looking so cursed
You can click on the people on the tank hanger menu
1:03 is this only at higher tiers? my Shenyang (Which got RWR this update!!! 🎉🎉) still goes crazy with RWR pings when on the airfield lol
flags are displayed backwards on the right side of vehicles and uniforms as if it were flying through the air and not retreating
I go out of my way to shoot nukes.
Nothing i hate more than losing/winning a match super early because someone played like a bitch, or is an absolute sweat lord in a broken tank.
im wasting my backups like never before ......
1:30 with the backwards flag, the us flag has the same doctrine. Imagine that flag is a real, tiny flag, on a tiny flagpole. The jet moves forward, so the flag flaps back, and appears mirrored on the other side. Right-side shoulder flag patches worn by American troops are reversed as another example.
I wish the death marker also appeared on the minimap instead of the normal damage marker. Don't know why they didn't replace both.
I think the RP boost for killing a nuke plane is kinda dumb seeing how powerful some AA are and how some planes that carry nukes don’t even have flares.
Reason of backward flags is to show they are not retreating so it flies behind them as flag would fly if you charge an enemy traditionally
Gripen didnt get its iconic engine sound too
Never shoot down the nuke plane
1:10 Only for RWRs that can IFF. The F-4s RWR still goes off like crazy at the start of the game.