Everything We Know About the Cayden Green Situation & What It Means for Oklahoma Football
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- čas přidán 13. 12. 2023
- Gabe Ikard and Teddy Lehman share what they know about the shocking news that OU offensive lineman Cayden Green entered the transfer portal.
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He should go to usc, he and his dad would fit right in.
When Cayden is older, he’s gonna regret the way he handled this big time. To say I’m disappointed in Cayden is the understatement of the year. You can only blame the parents so much for this…at the end of the day, this is on Cayden.
We didn't fumble the bag his father was out shopping for more money from different colleges and he wanted to play Oklahoma's amount versus someone else offer.
yeah. I would imagine someone basically promised to beat whatever ou did. It has to be huge to act like that. I feel like when he announces where he is going this will blow up again.
Ya I bet his dad got a big side piece of money to go along with his sons bag
They need to make these guys sit out for a season if they transfer for NIL.
that would slow things down for sure. I feel like these donors are probably having fun pulling guys from each other. But there are enough donors over the major conferences to pull a few players from top schools. at this rate the price for solid players will only go up. At some point when it comes time to ask for facilities, player costs, coaching costs an alumni base would start to desire a cap.
All transfers should have to sit out a year
It’s called big boy college football. Get used to it.
@@BranDZ7I bet you didn’t think that when jalen hurts or baker came over
@@BevoGuy 19 yr old grown a$$ men literally saying talk to my dad?? Big boys?
I agree wholeheartedly with Teddy Lehman. This is not how one should negotiate. Show respect and at least talk to Brent Venables and our
NIL people.
They are negotiating like COWARDS.
It hard to lose a player like that but I’m sorry parents are out of control. I wonder how much dad is getting. I am moving on. Love the show and always get the best information. Boomer
Jordyn bahl did it best with her transfer!
I really appreciate the insight and analysis. Ted and Gabe offer strong informed opinions, yet they do so with a certain degree of humility and humor. We need more folks like them😎
In the end OU tried and did right by him. One guy cant be allowed to hold the entire program hostage. For them not to communicate with BB after all he poured into Green and his development just isnt a good look on the Greens.
This is what NIL has done to college football. It has ruined it. There’s tampering going on everywhere. It’s a shame.
Man there was always tampering. Just because it was under the table didnt mean it didnt exist. I mean shoot OU built a dynasty off of oil money.
True yet can't hate on "kids getting paid... college's make millions off these kids... let them get what they deserve...
@@isaacmontoya9144sure sounds like it's the parents getting paid not him
It's given us the most parity at the top of college football in over 20 years. Look at the top 10/12 teams. They could all beat each other. There is no huge gap. First time an undefeated p5 champ out of the playoffs. It's been amazing for college football. Gaurauntee next year will be more of the same. Parity in sports is good period. We watch for competition. Not 1 team in the top 12 is leaps and bounds better than any other team. That's all thanks to NIL and the portal. There is going to be pros and cons regardless. Realignment on the other hand is and has been the death of college football. Much more money being thrown around changing the landscape with the universities than the players destroying rivalries and tradition all in the name of a dollar
Instead of asking NFL guys who the best line coaches are, you should ask college football players who the best coaches are. That’s who the other players talk to and listen to.
We need a salary cap and also these programs need to protect themselves by signing contracts that lock them in multiple years.
Imagine if the NFL had no salary cap and players could portal out to the highest bidder every year. CFB is an absolute mess right now. Truly the wild wild west
It makes college sports increasingly hard to follow.
@@jakebrake3000 I couldn't agree more.
He was shopping himself after the Texas game even.
Like Stutsman said, If you don't want to be here, don't be here!
It's the damn tampering that Oregon does that needs some looking at. Kid wasn't in the portal when all this shit went down..
I saw this coming from a million miles away. Once it started, I knew it was the beginning of the end. This isn't amateur anymore, this is professional football. It's really sad
When the OU staff asked Cayden why he's moving his stuff and he answered you have to talk to my Dad, coward move. That was a cop out . Good riddance. We need OL thats mentally tough, not weakness that are scared to answer questions.
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One player don’t stop the show, and if you don’t want to play at OU good luck to you!
Is yalls coping mechanism for when you lose a player just insulting them? Did the same thing when Nwaneri chose Mizzou over yall. Like this is how the game is played now, get over it.
*Didnt seem to bother yall when OU bought recruits w/ your oil money. Its only unfair when other teams do it. Cry me a river.
This situation reminds me of what happened to Marcus Dupree, has someone pulling their strings without having their best interest at heart.
Its just so weird, maybe some time we can find out what all happened. As always, Teddy and Gabe are the best!
Is there any hope OU can get three experienced capable offensive linemen from the portal ????????
I worry about JacksonArnold having
Time to throw the football 🏈 and now getting sacked a lot
I think we must find in the portal at least three offensive linemen as good as we can find .
It is time to move forward. QUICKLY!!!!!!!!!
Shows their true character Dad son have no character or integrity. May be out of character for Cayden, but nobody but him can sign that contract, so he is 100% culpable . If these young men want to be treated and considered adults, then act like it. He could have told his dad to go pound sand. This is my decision, but he didn't and said go talk to my daddy he makes my decisions.
@@calliephillips5042Let’s hold back judgement on the kid for now. I was once that age and had issues with my parents keeping me on a leash and running things when I shouldn’t have allowed it, that’s hindsight now. We don’t know the dysfunctions there that he may not have a grip on. Some parents hold a lot of power over their kids and the kids may not realize that’s wrong for a long time.
I feel sad for Cayden. He is being forced to leave. He is beloved by his fellow players and coaches. He is not being set up for his success but for someone else’s. It is a really sad situation. I would never do this to my child for my gain.
It appears that Cayden's father made a deal concerning more money 💰 and didn't leave a possibility for OU to try to offer the same money. This whole situation was handled in a very poor way and was very disrespectful to a program that is responsible for Cayden having the level of training that he has. I hope everything works out for Cayden, but the way this was handled gives me little hope that anything will ever be handled respectfully or above board until Cayden is old enough to handle his own affairs.
I'm a huge sports fan was an absolute OU homer and college sports fan. Since the NIL and transfer portal have come to be my consumption of college sports has tanked. Im glad these athletes have these opportunities but id rather just have a pro developmental league, maybe one of the spring leagues, and use the college game like baseball does.
They will try and drag out his landing spot for appearance sake...but everyone will know who tapered
Great show today men
Exactly Ted
I think it's pretty simple. Another school came to him with an offer. He told OU he needed X'$ to stay at OU, OU met X'$ but maybe said or made it seemed as if it was hard to get to that number, or that was the absolute highest they could go. Once he got the OU offer, the other school immediately beat it, and his dad said, "Pack your shit quickly and quietly!" NIL is part of the game now! Going to have to deal with kids chasing bags but even worse, parents chasing bags!
Think that’s spot on.
His dad doesn't even talk like that. LIKE THE PEOPLE THAT LIKE YOU..........Everybody that's ENTERING THE PORTAL is not getting a bag thrown at them! #JILTED 😅😅😅😅
@@57Soupbone true! BUT HE IS! We know for a fact he is! I believe what Teddy and Gabe says as far as the NIL he demanded in order for him to stay at OU. OU agrees to the demand, and then he's seen sneaking out of the dorms with his stuff. And when asked what's going on, said "talk to my dad". Talk to my dad= we got more money somewhere else
That’s called tampering
@Austin-xt7ze it depends. It's tampering if a coach or employee of the school talks to the player. But a coach can call a parent, brother, sister, cousin, agent, or manager and say whatever. And from the sound of things, his dad is acting like his "manager". There are so many loopholes in the tampering area that short of having a recorded call between the coach and player, it's impossible to prove tampering.
Sounds like tampering but at the same time if he wants go let him. We will find another just like him. Check the NFL for reference.
Let us remember CG is not a child. He is a grown man. So he deserve to shoulder the burden of his actions.
Give his bag to a better prospect
NIL is strategic now. Its not just about getting a good player from the portal! Its just as much about your opponent losing a good player! Like war! Whats better than killing enemy soldiers! Getting enemy soldiers to come fight for you!
And that's going to kill the sport. There's a very good reason people were against NIL and all their concerns are playing out just like they said it would and it's only gonna get worse, much worse. Money is now more important then anything and everything. More important than the team, the sport, and the students.
@bigd7481 There needs to be some rules set! The NCAA is scared of stiring the pot, though. Because the NCAA is scared to death of being taken to court over antitrust violations! They know they'd lose, not just lose, but be broken up and dismantled. So they are walking on egg shells, trying not to piss anyone off and keeping that money train rolling in! It's just a matter of time, though! Because you're right! Something has to happen about this! We need to go back to the rule that if you transfer, you sit out a year. But the second the NCAA tries to implement such a rule, they'll be in court! It's going to have to happen on a conference level, I guess!
You're exactly right Teddy. Now we learn that Cayden is following Dillon to Oregon.
Talk to my dad? What a coward. I hope he ends up at usc
Thinking Teddy is correct 🤷♀️ the bag was already accepted. We will soon see whom made the offer!
My guess, Missouri. With Nebraska being second. Staying close to home. If it’s only the money maybe the west coast 🤷♀️
What a world we're living in right now in college football. Holy hell.
I would love to see contracts that have to be repaid if broken. Your free to go but monies paid have to be recovered before transfer allowed
At first I thought back to Caleb Williams and the way his dad was involved with Caleb leaving. Then it hit me, this exactly what Marcu Dupree did in 1983. There was no NIL back rhen, but Marcus had an individual in Philadelphia, Ms. who played mind games with him, fed him full of stupid crap. Then right after the Texas game in '83, Marcus jist disappeared. I'm convinced we're looking at the same situation. Either a family member or another outside enfluence got involved. It literally destroyed Dupree's career and the country never got to see arguably the best running back of all time. I hope this doesn't hurt his career to the extent that it hurt Dupree's career. I know there's a lot of money being payed out in the NIL, but someone needed to tell him, the really big money will come in the NFL. And getting coached by BB would probably made him more money in the end. In my opinion this has gone way beyond just an NIL deal.
I was thinking this same thing.
At least Caleb Williams and his dad communicated with people that he was entering
If this story is true Cayden will have to learn the hard way about being a standup guy and a man of your word....
The bottom line is that the day is coming when universities and athletes sign binding performance contracts with each other. No transfers, defined payments, the works. You can't legislate the other things away for the reasons you already stated. Colleges will have to protect their investments and the only way is with a real, live contract.
Jordy Bahl has way more character than Green. I can respect the way she handled things.
If OU matched Mizzou’s NIL offer, then the only logical explanation is that the family is also getting paid. Mizzou has probably been working Caden’s family all year.
This is being made into something bigger than it should be. If you have an issue or concern regarding your playing time or NIL, sit down and talk to someone and try to see if it can be worked out. If not, next man up! Regardless of what happens to this kid- it won't affect anything because at the end of the day- we'll still be The University of Oklahoma
Good reporting! Thank You... Boomer!
Once you transfer, you lose that leverage for a few years. Bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. I hope we get a Byrd in our hands at least.
Kid’s dad is a coward.
Can someone explain to me how McKade Mettauer doesn't have another year of eligibility?
Welcome home to Mizzou
When you become greedy, and crap on people who took care of you, it never turns out good, you sow what you reap.
Maybe ou is reaping what they have sown!!.
Go to your own teams podcasts hater
@@staceybuckles2885 bahahaha OU getting exactly what they been putting out. It started with Lincoln.
agree with Teddy it was a done deal!
This is my bet on this.
He is going to Colorado. Their coach said they needed O linemen. Loadholt went to Colorado, correct? I think it's simple math.
The coaches at Colorado were unaware that he was going to enter the transfer portal.
@@OK_Breakdown They have to say that otherwise they'd draw suspicions of tampering.
@@OK_Breakdown
I understand that. I also understand that you guys are way more informed, than I am. That’s why I watch this. It’s a great show. It’s just as they called it in my day. A SWAG. (Scientific Wild A$$ Guess) on my part.
This sadly is going to cost him millions of dollars in the NFL, he might make it to the league, but he isn't going to be trained as good as he would have under Bedenbaugh. I know BB will have a good line on that field next year. I think its safe to say that when we hear where he is going, we will know who tampered. Good luck to him, but we dont need players like that in this program. Id rather go 6-6 and have loyal players out there than a bunch of hired guns.
A lesson in life was to witness the difference between a man and a boy, Greed and integrity, I know!, (Today's fallen World)... means nothing to some and that says a lot about them to others. I could make a few hypothesis's based on this, i will refrain, but certain things, commonalities hold true. Lincoln was an example of a coward, dishonorable. to make excuses for the manner in which he left, says a lot about a person as well, i don't know what happened in Caydens situation..But to some it speaks volumes about someone in his immediate circle, I know at first appearance it may not seem like people reap what they sew, but in the end they do, they always do.. Life is about planting good seeds...If you don't like it, there again it speaks volumes. Is what it is!
I’ve read on Colorado site that prime sent him offer
Well...duh!
Supposedly it has do deal with the hicks situation as well
Please expound
What about Hicks ???
Is that the D lineman committed to the Sooners for a year and a half only to sign with TX. A&M? The picture of him and his parents, he does not look happy while his folks are all smiles.
Supposedly hicks was supposed to get a GA spot after the season and initially it was going to happen then he got turned down and transferred and Caydens dad didn’t like how that went down but that’s all speculation
I was thinking about Brownlow-Dindy not Hicks, my mistake. Out of nowhere seemingly flips & signs a week later.
Really strange, seems like no one saw this coming
It blows me away that Parents have such a big part in their kids NIL deals! I mean to me its the Players that are making the name, doing the work, and should be getting the money They want! Not the money their parents want for them or maybe taking a cut of.... bout like Caleb Williams dad....just ridiculous to me. My take on it is ...if you ain't with us your against us... so BYE! we gonna be OU with or without them..
His dad wants a kickback. Someone else must have made that happen.
They're had to be serious serious tampering going on here.
I bet he’s heading to Colorado!!!
HES GOING TO MIZZOU ...
@@Blaqk_8298Oregon
First we don’t even know the true story. How about before you call these kids cowards we think through that.
You have to move on from this dude, one lineman doesn’t stop the show.
At this point it be worth it just to recruit proven Jr's & Seniors in the portal rather than wasting time and NIL money on a Freshman that will likely bolt for more money at the end of the season.
I have no problem with guys chasing a bag. But there is a manly way to handle a situation and this aint it. If i was a college coach id be applying for NFL jobs at once
Luv mr. Green but i would have let him leave when he demanded more money. As a former coach...it's a lot easier to coach the young men who want to be there. I believe in BB enough to get his type players and coach them up
MIZ 🐅 🐯 🐅
I'm less interested in college football as time goes on.
Relax. We still got Coach B. He'll always develops great OL. F Green. We dont need him.
AwShucks
Sounds like Daddy getting paid too.$💵
This reeks Brownlow-Dindy, the parents. Leaving like that he didn't want to be talked out of it. His folks still tell him what to do.
On a positive note the portal and NIL is GREAT for podcasts and talk shows!!!
Turns out living in Norman, Oklahoma is not that great.
He used OU's offer as a bargaining chip for another school to match.
There's tampering going on. He had to have the offer before he entered the portal.
No its not, muleshoe left in the middle of the night, this is OU
Rumors have Dillon Gabriel as a facilitator between Oregon and Green. If Pineapple Hands did this, the flood gates will open up about his legacy at OU.
It only takes a hit to finish a player's market value and career, and giving up on the Sooner nation's network of players and alumni, and a reputation that money can not buy, so sad!
It’s not an issue a at all! Until I get hurt…..then there needs to be legislation.
Even with rules there’s bags under the table no control even with rules
That's like saying laws against stealing cars won't stop people from stealing cars so why have laws. Sounds dumb huh? Laws/rules create consequences for your actions
I have zero interest getting rid of Bedenbaugh, however, is it out of the question to get him a helper in recruiting??
He is projected to land in Stillwater
There's 0% chance of that happening.
if he walked in today and said he would stay and play for $0. i would say bye-bye!. i still think coach L is in on this
sounds to me like the young man (and i wish him all the luck in the world) did not like the hard work demanded by the coaches and training staff. if i recall, back in the early days of Bob Stoops, we lost some linemen on both sides of the ball for that reason. i am not saying the coaches and training staff are wrong, i am saying the young man did not like the hard work. and let me say this... to be better you gotta work hard. harder than the opponent. some folks dont like that. ok. bye. good luck. BV and BB will move on from him and win
~ Go Ducks
Deion probably talking to his daddy. Cayden probably wants to stay but is listening to his father
Nothing like your dad making sure his investment in you makes some money bc that's what's most important in life not legacy ...money rules all
Sounds like those type of ppl we don't need in our program
Missouri or colorado
So any school can just call up dad and offer him whatever he wants and dad says "pack your bags son, were Oregon ducks now." Or whatever school he goes to. That's ridiculous. But, I agree with Teddy here. They didn't even negotiate. They already made up their minds before they even talked to OU. After being here a full season, he can't even give his own team the same respect he gives to strangers? No thanks mr green. I would remove any and all offers to the green family and wish them well wherever they end up. Hope to play you some day and shove your ass in the dirt.
Sounds like someone like tbow didn't just offer him a bag but his parents also. Tampering
Well, first I like to say welcome to the SEC from a Mizzou fan. But yeah this is Chicken shit and his name is on the contract not his dad's. And he is getting paid right not his dad right I mean really like you said he needs to man up and grow a pair.
We need to get rid of all this old thinking now that this is all still college football and all this other s*** that we think this is the minor leagues of football higher education is off the table there needs to be a salary cap you sign a contract that's the way it works and then when you don't perform your ass is f******
The gates of evil was opened by nil n can’t be closed or controlled now 😢
Get your money up
Young people make irrational decisions... He did what he thought was best for him...His reasons might be deeper than known.
F CG. By Felicia
He'll be a tiger early next week after his visit in Colombia sunday
Parents shouldn’t profit from their kids.
Homesick or money that's all it can be
The NIL/Portal is out of control, it’s all about greed.
Cayden better be careful. A lot parent ruin their kids future asking for asking a lot. Also it a dirty game. When he gets drafted. You think they won’t call OU.
A daddy issue
SOunds like Mr Green is Mr Bomar 2.0
And when do we start seeing tampering allegations with all of this NIL/portal crap?
It is called. GREED GREED! GREED
Well clearly he doesn't want to play for OU...what this has become is ridiculous...good luck getting drafted better than you would have coming from ou