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WITH MY HANDS HANDS HANDS
ABOVE MY HEAD HEAD HEAD
LIKE JESUS SAID
IM GONNA
@@karynmcdougall4800 WITH MY HANDS HANDS HANDS
Thing looks so incredible cause he isn't CGI. He's a practical prop being operated by a guy in a blue screen suit
Thing is also my favourite character in Wednesday
Not just a prop, but an actual hand
Obviously
Ye he's a Romanian magician I think
Apparently he is occasionally a prop. Not only the guy, however I never directly noticed any of those times
Thing actually isn’t CGI, but is actually played by a Romanian magician.
That’s why Thing looks so much better. He’s actually real.
So why does the monster look AWFUL
Anyone who's seen episode 1 can tell, and almost everyone has seen the behind the scenes shit. You're not helping anyone you're just trying to seem smart
@@charcoaleater343 They tried to mimic Tim Burton's signature style for the Hyde. Kinda like the VFX in Beetlejuice
@@MattSumGuy damn what’s your problem 😭
@@icecreamsundd Wannabe intellectuals. Not calling myself intellectual, but people come to this comment section to regurgitate the same boring facts that everybody already knows that they learned from TikTok or CZcams Shorts of the behind the scenes of the show, which everyone has also already seen. Nobody who watched the show doesn't immediately know this, but people still repeat the same boring nonsense in hopes that even a sliver of that technical knowledge or creativity will somehow be associated with them. There is literally nothing revolutionary about chroma-keying out a blue screen suit, most productions use this strategy. They didn't even bother to mention the name of the magician, "Victor Dorobantu". At least shouting out the talented actor would set this shit comment apart from the dozens of other identical ones.
Jenna really carried the entire show on her back. She's certainly come a long way from her Squeaky clean Disney Channel days!
W pfp
How dare you insult *Stuck in the Middle* like that.
Stuck in the middle W
literally just did that play as fester lol
She was great in Scream (2022).
Nick thinking Vermont was in Canada reminds me of how he, when landing into coastal city Boston MA by plane, thought that the Atlantic Ocean was a lake
1m subs and no comment bruhh
Vermont is totally is in canada
Omg it's ted the milk man!
The show is Wednesday Addams goes to Tim Burton Hogwarts has a love triangle with oatmeal personified and solves a dark edgy Scooby Doo mystery. The reason the show is so popular (other than Jenna of course) is that it's smoothie of popular troupes, character types and imagery from popular shows (but weirdly only troupes and things that have recently risen to popularity again)
Perfectly said! Only thing I'd add is a sprinkle of Riverdale/ Chilling adventures of Sabrina. Tim Burton's Hogwarts based in a CW town. This Wednesday is nearly the gender-swapped version of CW's Jughead lmao. Truly just chock full of tropes and cliches, completely deviating from the OG characters and source material to do so.
@@ShoutoutToTrees Oh my goodness! I can't unsee that now!
To me is too similar to a live action series from the late 2000s made by Nickelodeon... If you imagine the camera shots being stagnant and some pause for laughs is truly strange 😳
I don’t know about that. I would say that Wednesday feels pretty fresh compared to most other shows and movies that have blown up lately. I mean people keep saying “it’s just Harry Potter but ___” or “it’s Scooby Doo crossed with ___,” but at no point does Wednesday actually FEEL similar to those things. It’s only the superficial, IMDB-plot-synopsis elements that are similar. The meat of the show is unique.
Also why is nobody mentioning Enid? She’s very likable in my experience. Is this like how people thought Turning Red was lame?
Xavier stands out too. He’s not amazing, but his psychology creates a lot of empathy, he has an interesting dynamic with Wednesday, and his paintings are honestly great.
There are good side characters. They aren’t all “oat meal personified.” Also oat meal is yummy fuck you
Principal Weems is another wonderful side character. She always seems simultaneously like she’s in complete control AND like she’s flying by the seat of her pants. She’s composed and dominant, but she also struggles greatly dealing with Wednesday. She becomes a minor antagonist throughout the show, making her Union with Wednesday rather compelling.
@@willcooper8028 It's cool that you can like a show I personally didn't dude.
I know it can be annoying when people compare stuff you like to other shows, but I was just trying to voice my opinion on a show I thought could've been better.
I find it difficult to express my thoughts without using comparison so I'm sorry if that annoyed you.
Anyways here's a whole ass essay if you want to carry on this discussion... Sorry I got a bit carried away lol
I found the mystery a bit too easy to solve (Xavier was the most crimson red herring I've ever seen, and there was way to much talk of redhead Christina Ricci teacher being "the only normie teacher to ever work at Nevermore" for her to not be important to the mystery (seriously it felt like Skyrim NPC banter after the first couple of times it was brought up). It felt very spoon-fed when it really didn't have to be (it's not a kids show, you don't have to repeat it three times for the audience to remember)
Also Nevermore felt very inspired by Hogwarts (not necessarily a bad thing, Hogwarts is a very nostalgic setting and it's fun seeing the Burton-esqe take on a school for magic/mythological creatures).
I also don't fully understand why Wednesday Addams of all characters was chosen as the detective role honestly. It felt weird watching her solve the murders instead of causing them.
I thought Enid and the headmistress were great but kinda underutilised, I thought both of their actors killed the roles and all that it's just I've seen those characters before too many times. Enid felt a lot like the quirky best friend characters from Disney sitcoms (Harper from Wizards of Waverly Place especially) the headmistress reminded me a lot of Ms. Peregrine from Tim Burtons Ms. Peregrine's School for Peculiar Children (but better written of course).
They're both fun characters, I just think that they could be better with a bit more development and time taken to add a little bit more complexity.
Honestly, the most compelling character in the show in my opinion was the siren. Sure they she was a bit of a queen bee Regina George cliche at first but it was interesting seeing her situation with her mom and how being a siren affects her.
Xavier however, UGGH no. He was just kinda there to be a suspicious love interest in a show that REALLY didn't need a love triangle. His character gave off huge "producers are worried that teen girls won't be into the show if there's no love triangle so we'll throw in a sensitive guy tortured artist" vibe which as a teenage girl annoys the hell out of me. I think that they could've done a lot more with him if they dropped the "he's into Wednesday shtick" because as it stands he's just the tortured artist that's filling the Jacob role in the love triangle.
Nothing against the actor, he played the part well, I'm just tired of having that role shoved down my throat.
I feel like Tyler was supposed to be oatmeal to draw suspicion away from the character. He's pretty much just stock normal dude with daddy issues. I liked that he was the monster, it added spice to the character when you realize he was just acting the whole time. But as it stands he was just oats without salt or sugar for the majority of the first season. He was just likeable guy from every teen romance ever. Which worked but was also just really bland.
So basically As much as oatmeal can be delicious, if you only get oats to eat, it loses it's appeal after a while.
With how popular the show is I'm sure it'll get a second season for them to spice up the characters a bit but as it currently stands I just found them pretty generic.
All in all it's a perfectly serviceable teen mystery show, I just feel it could've been a better with a bit more polishing to the scripts and a lot less romance nonsense.
I do think Jenna's performance and Thing were the best of the show, and they manage to make the show enjoyable, even with the boring teen drama stuff they decided to include for some reason. I wouldn't really say it's an amazing show, but it is fun to watch, and it is the best we've got from the family in some time, so I'm grateful for that I guess.
Also, is it just me or the monster looks like it came out of Plants vs Zombies? Hahaha
Well I guess Teen drama is just because of the target group of the show.
But I agree I thought the hyde looked similar to a Gargantua
Yesss that’s why the monster looks familiar!! Lol that’s too funny
@@spamemailgmail1335 yes! hahaha
I think the music by Danny Elfman and Chris Bacon are also worth mentioning, it's really good and became one of my favourite things from the show being honest.
I think the monster looks like the honeycombs mascot
Me want honycomb
The plot is decent, but I think that we can all unanimously agree that the love triangle between Wednesday, Tyler and Xavier just feels completely unnecessary. She arguably has more chemistry with Enid than she has with either of the guys.
its the female goth protagonist what do you expect?
They were as bland as bread
I agree, it really was unnecessary. I think the show could've been better without it.
😂
She should be asexual, even if she does end up with Enid. She doesn't like touch, it makes sense.
I think Wednesday should not have a romantic relationship at all. Some might disagree but I don't think it fits her character, I don't think she would care about boys, crushes, etc. Sure, she has a lot of chemistry with Enid but it would be better if they stayed as best friends and nothing more. That's just my hot take, what do you think?
I agree sometimes some fictional characters don't really need a romantic partner because it doesn't fit their character or is pretty hard to imagine.
hard agree. i can’t stress enough how much it annoys me when a good character gets a random love interest out of nowhere when it’s totally unnecessary and ooc 💀💀
@@yochi9935 Exactly, people can have their fantasys, and ships but i dont think it would work. Still, im excited for what happens in season 2
@@awkwardlymajestic People already didnt like the love triangle between Wednesday, Xavier and Tyler, so why would they continue with that
The love triangle was the most boring thing and like, she doesn't give a fuck about the two guys but they just keep pushing it on her? And the narrative doesn't take her side?????? Fuck, I hope they drop that shit next season!
I think that the thing with the ""eddiemunsification" of Wednesday isn't that the character is so popular that they don't represent the outcast anymore, but rather the opposite, everyone claims to love them online but when these people have people like that on their lives, they are the ones pointing out how weird and wrong they are, while pretending to be "quirky" online, because it's cool being a little nerdy, and it's okay being just a little gothic, but too much is weird
I agree /gen
As the “weird” neuro-divergent kid, I AGREE.
so many Alt/Scene/Goth people have been calling everyone out for celebrating her dance and recreating it but these same peole making fun of "weird" people, I can totally understand they're pissed lol. I mean it's nice the dance is getting celebrated, but they have been made fun of and bullied forever, but it's 'trendy' now.
@@thatonemessyartist1760 as someone whos neurodivergent, im very open to the fact that i wouldnt like Eddie Munson if i had to deal with him irl
a normal person is more of an outcast nowadays.
What happened with Eddie from Stranger Things is that everyone will ''love'' them but then shun and laugh at people who actually are like them, or even act like them in say cosplay. They still treat them as weird and different after adopting their aesthetic
And the same seems to be happening with Wednesday
Actually they'll be ignored and avoided, because anyone else would be easier to deal with then the "eddie" and "Wednesday" type of people.
I always thought that the main draw of the Addams family was the Addams family but I guess making the show about a fraction of their dynamic with each other is cool too.
Part of the reason episode 5 was one of the more entertaining episodes IMO
Eh, i felt they absolutely butchered their dynamic with each other. The characterization of the other 3 Addams, and the lack of their loving and supportive dynamic, was as if no one on this show's team had gone through the source material. They took away the charm of the original to turn them into cliches!
@@ShoutoutToTrees That was my main issue. I love the show a LOT. But the characterizations of Morticia and Gomez were embarrassing to say the least. There’s no actual chemistry or love beyond.. the physicals?
that's true but putting Wednesday Addams, an outcast, with normal people and have her interact with them could potentially be really entertaining. but then again, that's not what they did. hmm.
@@ShoutoutToTrees????
Did you watch the show at all?
They support the shit out of each other?
At first Wednesday has issues with her mom but it's resolved and in the process we see how much love they have for each other?
It was super predictable with terrible chemistry between the love interests, but I watched it all in one night and loved it
Gonna be honest tricked me with the Hyde I originally thought the monster was her roommate as a werewolf genetic mutation or something that's mostly uncontrollable and protected websday out of instinct and otherwise just hunted the town
@@idiotgaming6376 thats actually a really cool idea though
good for you
@@idiotgaming6376
that sounds better than the actual plot
@@idiotgaming6376 I had a similar idea but that it was a failed attempt at creating Crackstone 2.0 hence the stolen body parts but the second I saw Tyler screaming in a bathtub I knew it was over 😭
Tim Burton just has a plaque on a wall somewhere for his director's philosophy that goes like, "Thou art edgy. Thou art not like the other guys / girls. Thy dad left you probably. Woe is me, but also thou."
Dumb
I think the problem is that they don’t understand what the adams family is, it’s there reactions with the “normal world” that make them unique
Exactly! Putting one of the Addams in an environment just as dark as them completely defeats the point of the Addams Family and who they are!
As much as I liked the media trying to represent nerds, outcasts, weirdos, rejects, geeks, etc. And make them interesting characters but they've done it too much that it just became an overly glorified trend to people who pretend they relate to everyone. I miss the days where nerd characters are still viewed as nerds with a heart of gold instead of someone being quirky, slay king/queen, romantic, etc.
YES. THIS.
fr
Weirdly enough, there is a character that matches your nerd description: Eugene.
He's exactly that. A nerdy short dude that's really just a well meaning guy
@@silverprimus321boi9 I was actually thinking of Napoleon Dynamite when it comes to accurate nerd/geek/outcast representation. He's not very attractive, his dialogues are realistic and not forced sass or quirky one liners, he doesn't have alot of motives besides helping Pedro win the election, he's not perfect nor have alot of secret talents and just make up lies to make himself sound interesting and cool to his colleagues, he was even treated like a nerd even by his own brother and uncle . He's realistic and what makes up for his character is just his sheer confidence with himself
@@siphonophores I don't think you actually know what the word "nerd" means.
*I love when Nick said "It's watchin time!" and watched all over Thursday. Truly one of the days of all time.*
They also made a sequel called *Friday* but it's a song.
you were one word away from being added to the FBI watch list lmao
@The Owl okay,but did we ask? shut up bot
Cringe. Do better.
So funny. ……………………………… please stop.
Wednesday was really fun. I was surprised how much I enjoyed the dark gothic tone and Jenna Ortega.
Agreed I really liked the entire show
Jenna really carried
@@payt00n agreed she did most of the heavy lifting. If the other cast members get their act together it could turn from an decent show to a good show.
It felt really weird that the villain called them outcasts when they should’ve just called them monsters. Outcasts have a very “misunderstood” connotation whilst monster is far more negative. As someone who only watched because my sister forced me to it felt very strange that the villain lady called them outcasts
I think they just wanted something to classify the kids at Nevermore without sounding bad. But yeah, Thornhill/Laurel calling the wierd kids "monsters" probably would've been a better fit. Missed opportunity considering the school is literally filled with warewolves, vampires, psychics that can yeet you wherever, kids with snakes on their heads that can turn you to stone, sirens that can basically manipulate you into handing them your wallet. Like, nothing is stopping them from doing just that since they can just remove their handicap necklace whenever. And a principal that can commit identity theft whenever she wants is just icing on the cake Wednesday couldn't even be bothered to cut.
I was wondering why there isn't more "drama" over this in their universe. I feel like it would be more logical for people to fear and be more hostile to said outcasts rather than going "hey look, a wierdo. Let's go bully them for fun" on every random Nevermore kid they find.
I'm thinking more stakes and silver, glares and torches and garlic hanging over everyone's doors. I think that'd be more interesting than watching two bland guys be entitled to a goth girl who only used them.
Regardless, I still enjoyed the show and looking forward for s2.
[Edit] I misspelt Thornhill
Blame pc culture
Not enough of appreciation for The Thing, he carried the show as much as Jenna did. I never thought I would laugh and cry over a hand!!
Wednesday really just carried the show.. if it were just another teen drama with the same plot, vibe, and characters but without this spooky pigtailed girl, it wouldn't be this well known.
That topic aside, THING is the best supporting character in my opinion. God i love that disembodied hand. Both in cgi and as an actual character. His interactions with Wednesday is just so... In lack of better words, sweet.
Yeah i loved seeing wednesday in wednesday she definitely carried the show Wednesday is easily the best character in wednesday
The Cello version of "Nothing Else Matters" was pretty amazing
I think the version of it was adapted from Apocalyptica, which honestly had me so thrilled when I heard it 😄
It is
it geniunely caught me offguard but goddamn it was a banger
Ah yes the most overrated Metallica song in existence. Even Enter Sandman is better than that shit.
Vivaldi on cello was pretty cool too. Shoutout to whoever played it
This show is literally Riverdale but it starts off weird instead of being a whole new show in season 2 which makes it easier to digest. Plus it has Jenna Ortega and Wednesday Addams is a popular character. Not really my type of show but I can see why people like it
The difference between Wednesday and riverdale is that the former succeeds in being tongue in cheek and zany whereas the latter takes its drama so seriously for no reason and that makes it absurd plot points look even dumber than they already were. Just because a show is about teens dealing with small town drama doesnt automatically make it riverdale
Tbh I have no hate for the show but wendesday is just patrick bateman for quirky woman.
@@hefoughtabear118 thank you, i’m so tired of people making that comparison
@@hefoughtabear118Mmmm I still can definitely see the comparison between the two.
@@Great_White21 not even woman lol , it's literally for teens and tweens.
Wednesday's one liners were definitely made for the "She's so me 💅" people but I don't really hate it cause we did see her grow (a bit) and realize she's toxic and has bad habits and it was all thanks to that falling out scene with Enid when she tricked Enid and Tyler to go to the mansion with her.
"You wanna be alone Wednesday? Be alone!"
- Enid
I feel like without this scene and this line, I wouldn't like Wednesday as much. Idk, that was an important scene to me
Yeah Enid was a nice character but sometimes they make her too much like her trope which is the peppy sparkle girl or whatever but she is a nice contrast. Wednesday is like in another plane of existence which talks in a edgy one liners which kinda makes sense but idk sometimes it's so dumb it's funny and I can't take it seriously anymore
Wendesday is just Patrick Bateman for quirky girls 💀💀
@@Great_White21 so true
@@Great_White21 I can't get that out of my head now
@@Great_White21 damnnn
Also jenna ortega hated the idea of the love triangle thing and wanted season 2 to be darker
I was pleasantly surprised with this show, glad to finally have a good modern Addams Family thing
Same!
Bro what the hell are these Bot replies
It's not the Addams Family at all, tho. The relationship between her and her mother is totally out of character.
honestly to me it didnt really feel like the addams family. they slandered the relationship with her mother tbh. it just feels like a teen drama that used the good old nostalgia cash grab
@@monospaperbag thats fair, there was definitely some Riverdale stuff with an Addams Family coat of paint
I'm apparently the only one that hated Wednesday in this show, to me the adddams family is far more morbid/macabre than edgy but just about every word that came out of Wednesday mouth was like you asked an ai to come up with the most edgy, "I'm not like the other girls" dialog that I've ever seen. It was simply too much for me to get over, couldn't make it past the 3rd episode
No, you just hate her because Jenna Ortega is stunning and popular and talented! Stop being jealous of others’ success she carried the movie! /s
Ok but fr I agree. It’s like the Wednesday in the animated movies saying “squad goals” equally cringe but in a different way. Not reflective of the character imo.
Honestly I agree, ITS NETFLIX, NETFLIX RUINS EVERYTHING AND I HATE IT
It's essentially Addams family with a Cw backdrop
i find it funny how the addams family are heralded for being ‘strange’ or ‘weird’ when they’re literally capitalists😭😭 where do you think they get all their money ?? babes gomez is a WALLSTREET man !!!
also yeah totally agree, the mystery was cool imo but wednesday is not a complex character in the slightest and anyone would get so sick of her faux edgy persona that she puts on, it was okay as a background show but nothing more than netflix drivel. also tim burton is a racist idc !
Wednesday would straight up say all those things in pretty much every interpretation of the character. Your problem is that you wanna see an addams family show not a Wednesday show and thats not really the fault of the writers or directors if you already didnt wanna see Wednesday as a main character in her own show
Honestly, I feel exactly the same way about this show. I'm so exhausted with nerds, weirdos and outcasts that I yearn for Seinfeld.
Nerds, weirdos and outcasts are so modernized now they aren't really weirdos or outcasts anymore 💀
@@payt00n That's the point, I support you. Here's how things can turn out because of a different point of view. Nevermore is a school with psychologically
much more normal children. And in this case, the human school from the first scene is opposed to it, there is just a cliche: a popular guy humiliates an unpopular one.
@@payt00n "Because when everyone's a super, no one is."
Honestly… I can agree a bit on this as the only “Outcast weirdo” type of character I like in recent years is Luz Noceda and that’s it. Like I can’t think of anyone else memorable(at least right now for me maybe).
I can’t wrap my head around how nerds and outcasts are romanticized but the oeople who do it are cookie cutter fucking NPCs who hate outcasts IRL
Am I the only one that thought Goodie Addams was a Deus Ex Machina? I'm just talking about the part where she was able to heal Wednesday. That came out of no where.
The Addams family, in the very beginning comics, was a sort of social study about the perception of normality. The Addams family believes they are the normal ones and there's nothing wrong with their behaviour. There's a great comic of Gomez and Morticia being concerned that Pugsley wants to join the scouts.
But first and foremost they're meant to be a loving family with very few serious quarrels. Gomez and Morticia love one another. Wednesday and Pugsley fight like any siblings would. Fester is the cool uncle. And their grandmother is equally as kooky. Thing and Lurch and self explanatory.
Wednesday is a well made CW show
A lot of people are gonna think this is supposed to be a compliment 😂
It’s a CW show with a bigger budget.
Bro, CW show and well made do not fit in the same sentence.
So The 100, for a CW show that serie was great at least in the first Four seasons
@@manolgeorgiev9664 The 100 its a exception if you ignore season 7
She isn't abnormal on the setting because she's the"weird goth girl"(maybe with the normies), it's because she has low empathy, no social experience and try so hard to bury the few emotional manifestations she has
As an actual real weird young woman (I'm schizoid) it's just so funny to me how suddenly everyone is so like Wednesday everyone is so emotionless and quirky and different everyone is a weirdo just like Jughead from Riverdale 🤪🤪🤪 wow they're so crazyyy i love them
and meanwhile i, who's had an actual personality disorder that makes me act like that all the time since i know myself, and who's had to deal with bs for my WHOLE LIFE FOR IT, am actually not weird at all because everyone is now like her lmao. Every new trendy character makes everyone switch personalities so fast and it's tiring
"All these people act like an edgy fictional character, but they're not really like that. Me, however, I'm totally like Wednesday IRL"... Shut the fuck up. You don't act like Wednesday IRL because she's not a real person. Even if you did, it wouldn't be a good thing at all. You're not quirky even with a mental disorder.
Bro fr! I just commented somewhere else how it's just a gender-swapped Jughead, and it's honestly the cringiest, most forced-quirky thing I've seen lmao.
The way every person she encounters either wants to be her, be with her, or be her bestfriend-for-life is just *bizzare*, it's giving main character syndrome. Someone so hostile and uncaring wouldn't have people falling all over her for just existing. And irl people who are considered weird or different won't amass a damn fanclub at their school.
I know it's not exactly the same but it reminds me of how many kids were bullied for wearing glasses in school and then it became trendy to wear them and "cool people" started buying fake ones.
Ah, yes… the “Napoleon Dynamite” effect
Everybody likes weird stuff on tv not in real life that will become an annoyance.
"She's just like me fr" the white suburban teen girl said, sipping her soy spiced latte
Yeah seriously, how can you relate to someone who killed a zombie, has psychic powers and is a literal felon
@@mranima748 i did all of those things i just did it better than her
I'm so glad to see a review like this after seeing so many people praise it wholeheartedly. I did like the show and it managed to be entertaining throughout each episode, but there were a few parts where I lost a bit of interest. For example, the mini arc with the family day and the whole murder felt a bit odd to me since at the time, it didn't seem connected to the original plot at all and it felt like it was only there to have more screentime of the actual Addams Family. Plus, putting Wednesday in a love triangle was arguably one of the worst decisions they could've made, especially since both guys are literally the most boring characters I've ever seen. Personally, I would've preferred for her to either develop a relationship with Enid or to have Wednesday explicitly stated as AroAce, but it is what it is ig? And maybe it's just me, but through the beginning episodes, I was really confused about the plot since it started straying away from the original concept and into the visions with Goody Addams. I figured it was supposed to connect, but it was weirdly difficult for me to understand how until the very end, and the way they jumped between each plot felt like they were trying to confuse everyone so the mystery would be harder to solve. Maybe I'd think differently if I rewatched it, that's just how I felt when first running through the show. Jenna Ortega was easily the best part, and the way she delivered her lines was so addictive to watch that her performance alone urged me to finish the entire thing in a day. It did seem a bit weird compared to the other characters' acting, like Enid feeling straight out of a disney channel show, but no complaints other than that tbh.
I didn't mean to rant oml...
omg same that murder plot was so random and did nothing for the overall story ?? also i find it hilarious that wednesday literally says that she doesn’t want to be like her mother ‘married’ and a ‘housewife’ yet has TWO love interests like how do you forget your own writing ????!
@@Xblackjckqueen I think they were trying to prove her wrong or smth?? Like when parents are so certain that their kids will get married, no matter how many times they say that's not what they want, just because "they're too young to know what they want" ?? It's pointless, and it would've been nice to show that not every teen girl in a show has to have a love interest, especially since Wednesday is the perfect character for that. Seriously a missed opportunity tbh
Lol comments look a lot smaller when you're writing them.
What I don't see anyone talking about is how Wednesday was utterly useless in the finale of her own show. Wednesday's "investigation" (re: visions ex-machina) amount to: getting stabbed, shot, frozen in time by some staff that for some reason isn't used on anyone else in the school afterwards - despite it being ridiculously OP against supernatural beings, who make up for NEARLY EVERYONE IN THE ENTIRE SCHOOL... oh, and having to literally be fairy goth-mothered back to life.
Took me right out of the show - the ending implies that Wednesday now has an infinite 30 second respawn timer, (which sadly explains why shes so unafraid of death and danger throughout the show)... Also, Wednesday's friends literally carry the plot and do exactly what Wednesday is given credit for instead. In doing so, the writers delegate her to a damsel-in-distress role having little impact other than "wow gang, you saved me - again!" in her own finale? And that just sucks.
people praise it wholeheartedly becasue they like it. aint that deep
There were definitely a couple of inconsistencies in Wednesday that keep it from being a truly great piece of media.
I won't get into them, because of spoilers, but I wager it's impossible to not notice them, even on first watch.
Hope the quality improves in the later seasons, if they ever get made.
I'm interested what you think they are because I can't recall.
Other than her enjoying dancing despite hating having to interact with people 🤔
@@esmeecampbell7396 okay so, spoilers. Maybe.
The monster being such a good actor out of nowhere.
When a character opens the secret door, and the statue's arm doesn't bend.
The antagonist having legit no plan.
The mayor's son's unexplored chemistry with Enid.
Also they barely have any classes at Nevermore, and the classes they do have wouldn't really result in someone being educated (though that can also be said of schools irl).
The shapeshifter barely utilizing their power.
That's all I could think of right now. Some of those are pet peeves, though, but hey.
@@charleszp938 Yeah I mean the whole thing with the monster is part of his plan, I presume we will see in season 2 but he was using his "controller/master" as much as they were using him it seems. As he says "I was aware of what I was doing" etc in his monologue about how at first he found it strange but now he doesn't care.
Personally I don't mind that aspect, I care more that it is pretty weak motivation to make him evil enough to want to kill innocent children, because his mother...was a bit bullied at the school... Seems a bit far fetched. Almost as if they were justified in saying Hydes are dangerous animals and should be put down if they are all like that.
I would have preferred if they went with the actual Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde story element, that the Hyde isn't actually in control, then they could explore how he can both be normal sometimes and like Wednesday and whether he should be punished for actions HE technically didn't commit as it was the Hyde... That would be some actual commentary on real mental health issues and criminal punishment vs justice etc.
Can't remember the statue thing so I'll take your word for it.
Yep the main antagonists plan was also a bit mad, for reference I have never seen anything Addams Family related previously so I didn't make the connection with who is portraying who, I thought the "vision" drawing was going to be less literal as the Police Chief's raincoat and hat looked very similar to the Pilgrim's gear and I didn't think we were going fully resurrect the dead supernatural (I thought this was just a light supernatural, visions and vampires type stuff) so I was expecting it to be the Police Chief. (also it being Netflix I was just assuming the Old White guy would probably be the villain, technically they were I guess, it was just a REALLY old white guy) but yeah I agree goofy as hell that the villain brings this person back (they are instantly cool with being reborn and not at all confused, then immediately murder Wednesday with a knife... Like damn) it did seem a bit rushed and silly but the whole show isn't too serious so it didn't particularly bother me.
I presume the mayor's son and Enid stuff is being saved for season 2, perhaps making a love triangle if they want to do some Enid and Wednesday stuff? You've got to keep some plots open and play to the fans after all...
Bit like Harry Potter, they also don't show classes much, it happens off screen. I mean I'D watch Jenna Ortega doing a maths class but I think that says more about me than anything else... 😳
Utilised it a bit, but it was a bad plan at the end, that I can forgive though, neither her nor Wednesday are tactical genius special Forces type people, they expected the villain to give up when discovered, which was naive but hey... Lol
It is certainly a goofy show, it has some flaws, but it is still fun. Though I doubt in 20 years people will care much about it, it'll have probably 3 good series on Netflix then get cancelled like everything else seems to. I think culturally Stranger Things will have more staying power and be remembered more fondly and watched more in the future, because of the originality and broader audience, slightly better writing of certain aspects of the story, etc.
@@charleszp938 I dont think the shapeshifter makes sense as it was used for multiple plot twists
@@esmeecampbell7396 Tbh everything that I saw (while my mom made me watch part or it with her) was just Wednesday's character. She's Wednesday Addams, but she's upset and distraught when she thinks her father killed someone? What? Why would she have any problem with murder? She's tried to kill her own brother so many different times. She was just an antisocial goth throughout this whole series and if her hair was styled differently and her family never showed up, I wouldn't think this was a show about Wednesday Addams.
Thing looks good because he's an _actual_ hand. They dressed the actor in full blue and digitally removed the rest of his body from every frame.
Alright, you’ve got a point with a lot of things in this video, but I am positive that the monster intentionally looks the way it does. It’s a stylistic choice to make it look so “goofy,” and I personally thought it was pulled off fairly well, effectively riding that kind of uncanny valley with the ridiculous blown out of proportion features, and it was honestly a pretty memorable monster design in my opinion.
You can tell how much love and how passionate Jenna Ortega is when talking about acting she's definitely going to go very far in her career and she’s very intelligent and beautiful, I Think she’ll win a Oscar in the future for sure she’s such an amazing actress already, I’m rooting for her, and can’t wait to see what she does next :)
Finally, someone else that’s not acting like this show is a masterpiece. I saw the tons of hype behind this show and decided to watch it, only to discover that it’s LITERALLY just “What if we made Riverdale, but replaced the Archie characters with Wednesday and a bunch of quirky random teens?”
Like, it’s okay, but that’s it. I have absolutely no clue where all the hype came from.
The inconsistency of how good some people were at acting compared to others was definitely noticeable to me. Near the end, I almost gave Tyler's delivery the benefit of the doubt like maybe he was just really awkward and not as "charming boy next door" as he should've been intentionally and now, in these last episodes, we'll see a more genuine side of him...but then he acted no differently in the last episodes...
I think some of cast did fine, Enid and the other girls.
But the boys in the love triangle suffered from having to do the whole, who is the bad guy thing.
The actor playing Xavier probably got a lot of instruction to tone himself down and seem more mysterious, and more...oooh am I a bad guy, maybe I'm just grumpy like all the time. And the actor playing Tyler...he does a good nervous loner type thing, and his little monologue in the last episode was alright, but he's not really a super scary villain, he doesn't have a believably threatening presence sure.
Eugene's actor was so bad it was genuinely embarrassing. I'm guessing he's someone's kid in the production cause there's no way he was the best in a casting audition. Even then, someone should've stopped it. You can love your kid and still tell them they'll need acting lessons first.
@@lollybowser Eugene was the Bee kid right?
He's an actor from Birmingham in England, I didn't think there was anything particularly wrong with what he was doing. He was playing the typical nerdy type, but with an interest in bees rather than the usual computers or science...
@@esmeecampbell7396 Yes, bee kid. He was really REALLY bad. Mumbling his lines, delivering them in a very stilted way, often looking straight at the camera?? There's one scene where he pushes his mom off him and he does so incredibly unnaturally, like he suddenly remembered it was his cue.
Another bad actor tell he does as well is a bit longer to explain but here we go:
Sometimes in a script, a line will be unfinished because the character is interrupted. Good (or even just decent) actors make those interruptions look natural, like they actually meant to finish their sentence but bad actors like him don't. In the pilgrim world episode there's a point where he legit and very obviously stops his sentence in order to be interrupted by bullies. Just awful and embarrassing.
@@lollybowser I mean he's meant to mumble if he's nervous and traditionally if a large gap is left between lines that would be considered an editing mistake, as they can trim 0.1 seconds or 0.25 seconds to tighten the dialogue up in post.
I don't remember him looking at the camera though or there being anything that awkward about him pushing his way past his mother... 🤷
I really like how you explained your observations. You said some things that I had been thinking but couldn't communicate into words
I wanted to die every time they said “normie”
When they make a S2 of Wednesday, I will literally start a riot if they don’t call it Thursday
I don’t see why they would do that
@@nachocheese1650 They better
tbh could barely sit through the first episode and haven't been able to watch any more it just made me cringe idk. The whole show just felt like "im not like other girls" and I felt like the pacing was super weird. idk
Well, that's the point
you’re the only sane person here. this show can’t possibly get any more cringey lol
@@jumpinboa Yeah it's must be hard for you to have bad taste.
I've only seen the first three episodes so far and I'm already noticing the similarities with Smallville, my favorite live action show of all time, which was ALSO created by Alfred Gough and Miles Miller! So I guess the next step for them was to make ANOTHER teen drama based on ANOTHER comic series that began in 1938!
They kinda wasted Christina Ricci in this tbh.
hate that they made her a twist villain :(( she’s my original wednesday she deserved justice !
Imo, the plot is convoluted and not super interesting with too many unearned twists, the world-building is pretty generic, and the dialogue is often painfully cringey and eyeroll inducing. Yet I kept watching. And I think it was almost purely from the strength of Wednesday as a character and Jenna Ortega’s great portrayal of her. She’s just such an enigmatic character in this show, I feel like you could put her in almost any setting and it would be entertaining just to watch her interact with people. She’s the kind of character that 13-year-olds everywhere will try to emulate, and I mean that as a compliment.
Looks like every generic "Made for tween girls" Netflix show like Riverdale or Sabrina. Yawn.
It really I they try to give the plot more stakes than other addams family interpretations but it's just makes it feel like the same tween drama were used to at this point
For me, Wednesday is the first piece of media that exposed me to the Addams family, and I think that not knowing anything about it, not having any expectations and not even knowing it’s and adaptation of anything made it better for me.
This show is essentially Addams family with a Cw backdrop and Christina ricci should have played a bigger role if you wasn’t gonna be Wednesday
Honestly I liked it.
I think they did try and make it more fun and casual for kids, hence all of the Teen Romantic drama, but overal I think it was a good show
The monster looks like a PVZ zombie 💀
the success of this mid ass show just proves how much we have regressed as a society
Everyone thinks they’re an outcast and when everyone thinks that no one is
@@TazKoltin nigga you ain’t smart you got that from the incredibles
It's because Jenna Ortega's in it and everyone's in love with her
@@supaflycoolguy but why...
@@nakedstatue8517 pretty
I loved the show because it was simple and easy to follow. It did modernize The Addams Family, and I think it succeeded in doing so. So we'll have to agree to disagree here, 'cause I know some people just don't like hyped up stuff.
I'm one of those people, especially when it comes to videogames. But was great. It's a teen drama.
While the show wasn't super complicated, I find it interesting you say it being "easy to follow" is one of it's benefits, because this show had one of the least focused stories I've seen in a long time.
I think she should end up aromantic. Have no marriage or kids. If the writers we're to write her in a way where she was just allowing herself some new experiences it would make sense because teenagers very much do that. Letting themselves try out new things and figure out what they want and and wat they don't want. They better write her that way in the second season
One of my main problems is how little and poor effort was put into the monster. The body is clearly inspired by stranger things, and the eyes feel like eyes from late 2000's animated kid's shows. They can do better.
i agree
7:34 That's the thing though, Wednesday isn't supposed to be awkward, she's very sure of herself and doesn't care about anyone else's opinions
This show is awful. I am not a fan of the characterization. Wednesday resenting Morticia felt so out of character. The Addams are supposed to always get along dispite being creepy. That's the joke. I also hate how Wednesday went from deadpan to rude. I don't like the Addams being aware that they are weird.
When everyone is super...no one is
It was something I'd watch, then forget about a day later. It wasn't bad or anything, it was just another show
Jenna Ortega eats up every scene she's in, even though they took Wednesday and turned her into a pick-me girl... She's so quirky, she's not like the other girls, so you just have to love her...
No one
Nick in the description: WEDNESDAY SHOW STARRING JENNA ORTEGA THIS WAS UPLOADED ON A THURSDAY NOT A WEDNESDAY AW MAN ISNT THAT SAD IT WASNT UPLOADED ON WEDNESDAY LIKE THE NAME OF THE SHOW WEDNESDAY STARRING JENNA ORTEGA FOR THE SHOW WEDNESDAY ON NETFLIX STARRING JENNA ORTEGA
Wow i could never watch a show like that, id be just annoyed the whole time, itd be like a complete torture. Maybe im just so not a fan of Tim Burton movies. Nightmare Before Christmas is amazing but he didn't direct that one
ive spent years stewing over the fact that henry selick directed the nightmare before christmas, so the catharsis i felt from nick pointing that out was unreal
I tried to watch this and mentally tapped out halfway through the second episode. I just kept it on for background noise.
I love Tim Burton but even Wednesday was meh to me
we need thursday addams fr
Thing looks so good because he's a real guys hand, they hired a magician to play him and blue screened out the rest of him.
I’ve been watching Jenna In Movies and Shows for years now, And it’s so great that she’s finally getting the recognition she deserves she’s such an Amazing Person and Actress, her future is very bright and I can’t wait to see what she does next :)
I hope this movie shows all the big companies who she really is, only thing is about the fame she's been getting might exhaust her.
Ok but would she still be an amazing person and actress if she was ugly?
@@bydlakbolszewik847 what does her looks have to do with anything..?
If Jenna Ortega’s in it I’m watching it.
just why
I just don't understand how ANYONE (the characters) likes Wednesday? WHY DOES EVERYONE IN THE SHOW LIKE HER? WHY-
cuz she s so mysterious....... and .....uhhhhhhhhhh......... and she iiis soooo cool cuz she is edgy and musterulysinaimawhiwa a a
@@barkingsandwich oh wow, the goth girl was mean to me and said to my face she only cares about herself, i think i'm in love 😍
@@solmateusbraga same........ thats soooo hot and cool...... mann....
Cuz the werewolf is just a bubbly cartoon character that sees the best in everyone, and the other two are simps. Plain and simple.
8:42 the hyde looks like its straight from plants vs zombies
That was my first thought when I saw the Hyde lol
The reason it got so popular is because Netflix decided to put their whole netflussy into promoting it, like I heard about it in like august or September.
netflix didnt even need to promote it, tiktok was doing it for free 🤣
This guy's expectations of a good TV show is far beyond then anyone I know.
Finally someone said it. All my friends that have watched it said it was really good, so I watched it and thought it was just whatever. The story was predictable, the characters were boring, and (to me) it was just a show that I probably wouldn’t return to for the second season.
I hate that this was just another teenage love drama.
Wednesday doesn’t need friends
Wednesday doesn’t need a boyfriend
I like how they sort of played around with that in Addams Family Values….but the best part is her hilarious enjoyment at the end of the movie by watching him scream in terror.
Tim Burton is racist and this is the first time hes even had POC in his work. His name on the project prevented many of us from watching initially. We no longer need him! There are so many great creepy/quirky directors now! and Selick is working to reverse Burton's comments.
speak on it !!!!!!
Imo the ending was super rushed
yall literately say every ending in everything is rushed
Bro the monster looks like plants vs zombies whoever designed that thing must of been up all night streaming
Nice video nick
you couldn't have waited until next wednesday to upload this?
I’m sorry
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Wednesday was very fun. Jenna Ortega did a great job alongside with the rest of the cast. Now i want to see Tim Burton's Addams Family Stop-Motion Animated Movie someday.
Wednesday, Enid and Thing are a extremely fun dynamic that is fun as hell.
Enid and Wednesday also have a great chemistry that made the internet go mad with the possibility of them being a couple. The interviews both actresses gives suggesting that are also genius for marketing and even I would not be against them becoming a couple
Ehh I've always assumed her to be aro ace so I don't think there gonna go down a actual couple route
I think it better fir being Best friend than couple
Why can't they be friends... why do people make it either about yourselfs or just gay, there ain't as many gay people as netflix is portraying, I'm sick and tired af the woke sh*t everywhere to a point you can't escape it even though it's a minority...
@@randomstuff7668 my point is not that I would be against them keeping as friends or have a "found family" kind of relationship but that it makes sense in a marketing point of view and that to the public this series attracts it is something most of them want to happen
@@marceloasensiofilho3833 to be honest it would probably ruin the show for most bc 99% of shows are doing that now
Hot take?
The Hyde being cartoony looking fits with the show's dark comedy tone. A guy gets his ball chomped off by a piranha in the 1st episode. Is this really going to be taken 100% seriously? The uncanny levels of goofy contrasts with its vicious goring of people. Sounds exactly like a Tim Burton choice to me. idk, I like it.
1 thing I can say for certain, if I saw that thing as a child, I'd have nightmares.
AGREED. also like the smile she gives like she's getting a sick pleasure off of seeing this
But I watched prequel TUESDA-
But I watched the prequel of Tuesday, Yes Day
My main hang ups had to do with the acting from Lucas and Tyler. Tyler just seemed to mumble a lot or just didn't like to open his mouth. However, overall I enjoyed it.
all of tyler's lines sound like unsure questions it was so annoying to get through 😔 I guess the actor had to tone his voice down because he's girly pop irl and needs to sound hetero
@@MarcDoesNotKnow Lmao not girly pop 🤣 but overall he just wasn't good
Wednesday was a pretty fun watch. Like Nick said, it’s a very mixed bag but I enjoyed it simply because of Jenna Ortega’s performance. Most of the other stuff I can look past. Definitely not anything amazing or special, but I had some fun watching it.
The love triangle was terrible, with Enid and Eugene, Wednesday learned about the value of people who are always by your side and that would've been enough development, Xavier and Tyler could've been just one character or just different sides of dealing with one-sided relationships and boundaries, she didn't need to cave to either of them, at least not as quickly, the therapist could've been the only Red Herring (instead of two) and the rivalry between Wednesday and Bianca didn't need Xavier to be entertaining
I like how the whole dance sequence got Mandela effected because everyone thought the song was the one from TikTok but it isn’t.
I know so little about this show and more about Jenna Ortega’s involvement in it that I literally know how many times she blinks in this show
I feel like Tyler was an interesting character as a concept, although his acting was dry. I can’t say much or else I’ll spoil the show, but he does have reasonable motivation and an interesting background, and I hope we can see him in the future
Wednesday has always been different from her peers, and has lived in a world (including attended schools) where she doesn't fit in but has been pushed to change to fit by external forces. When she attends this school she expects it to be the same. Over the course of the show she learns that she has peers here. Yes she is weird and doesn't conform to general societal expectations, but that is the case for everyone here. So despite not having achieved it before, she is safe to let people in sometimes. To trust people. To be honest and people who care will help you, without manipulation. She is learning that found family/community can exist and that she can be herself and still let people.in. she is learning to drop her walls, without losing herself. This has mixed results, because she is learning how to read people in this light. But if you don't attempt, you don't move forward. And by the end some attempts have had success and she is moving forward with a view to a life with others in it, not all on her own. So this is why she is the outcast of outcasts. Because when your life has been that, it can take a bit accept that it no longer is. Which is some I, and othersI have know, have had to do at times in our lives.
Does that make sense?
yeah! u get it! this is what made me watch the entire show in one night. i think nick kinda misses the point that it's not about self-acceptance, but more about seeing a character like wednesday finally let others in for real. even if the whole conflict was seemingly centered around how she's not like the other girls, even in a school full of outcasts or smth at first, it doesn't actually focus on her /accepting/ her difference, because she already knows she is and accepts it. she doesn't give a single fuck and carries herself like that from the get go. instead, it addressed her emotional constipation. she sees the entire world as her enemy (even her peers that are most like her and loved ones that would understand her), and bc of that, she relies solely on herself as a defense mechanism and is even willing to use and potentially hurt others for her own gains, which then the show punishes her for it. and the best part is, she learns! she learns that letting others in was okay and that she can feel safe with people! and especially from enid, she even learns how to approach things in completely different ways, less morbidly and with more trust and compassion, as much as she could minutely muster. and we even get to see highly emotional moments from wednesday herself too! like her resuscitating thing and ep 8's hug, which i don't think we really get to see from previous addams media (? cmiiw). despite the negatives mentioned by nick like the cg and some parts of the show being pretty bland even with its cool setting, overall the emotional hook and beat of show were genuinely satisfying and seeing wednesday's walls go down bit by bit throughout made me smile and even tear up at the end
Very good analysis :)
the description on this vid made me laugh.
"I'm not like the other girls"
- seemingly every female protagonist ever
I will praise this show for making me believe that ‘The Addams Family’ is a real family who actually loves each other. Wednesday and her rocky relationship with her mother, her very positive relationship with her father, her sweet relationship with her brother, and even thing. Uncle Fester… felt a bit thrown in there but y’know. I really enjoyed that! I would love to see more of these interpretations of these characters in the future.
i personally would like the show if she stuck to her word of not having a boyfriend
possibly make her aroace
An aroace Wednesday would make sense. That or actually forming chemistry like in Addams Family Values.
worst part is how many more people are gonna think they're goth after watching this
Jenna HARD carried the show!
If I hear Bloody Mary one more time I will mass report Wednesday
The writing gave me a hernia.
I enjoyed the show I’m love murder mystery type plots, the love triangle was so unnecessary I think
They should’ve just stuck to Tyler and Wednesday in the first season since the reveal of Tyler being the killer was good in my opinion but love triangles are kinda overplayed now show was fun so it’s like 7/10 for me
that woman with the red hair (I forgor her name :( ) felt like she was only in the story to be the bad guy. She was a REALLY insignificant character, who had way too much screentime which led me to believe she was somehow connected to all the mysteries in some way after like the 3rd episode
Thornhill. She was played by Christina Ricci who was Wednesday in the '91 adaptation.