So I finally watched WEDNESDAY | Explained
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Yes she saved Xavier from being cremated, not buried. You've fallen for my completely intentional and definitely not a mistake, ploy to get more comments on the video
Cool. Also I now know his name is Xavier. I kept calling him tortured artist.
Wednesday is normie passing but aside from the visions she's there because she's a legacy witch.
You got us, for sure.
Psshhh semantics! 🤪 We all knew what you meant 😝
If not that, its the buzzy microphone. I think your mic is slowly dying.
Can we all agree that the love triangle was the most pointless plot point they could have ever had for an Addams family member
agree. i love grumpy sunshine, and her and tyler were cute but really rushed. it shouldn't have been this much of a focus in the story, but i just don't see her and xavier either lol
Yes!!!!! I finally have friends. But yes, the relationship stuff was not needed at all.
the funny part about it is that it was a generic teen drama plotline but wednesday didnt care the whole time and that's why i think it is actually genius.
I usually push back on people saying that giving a woman a love interest would denigrate her role as protagonist, but love triangle with mid characters... delete me.
Preach, Jenna even maintained that she didn't think that Wednesday even needed a love interest, and was better off single.
Sheriff: Your father is accused of murder.
Wednesday: Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?
*Acquitted!
“Recent or cold case?”
"Which one?"
@@Ramsey276onethat sounds like something from the older Addams family.
@@missrebel634 yep
My guess is Bianca's mom is going to become the new headmistress for Season 2, but my dream would be that Weems has a twin sister or something and they bring back Gwendoline Christie in a dark haired wig because she was just TOO good in this series.
@@nicoleblack6301 who is that
@@coolboss999 she played morticia in the previous movies - the same ones where christina ricci was wednesday. both the first and second are AMAZING, you should check them out.
I loved gwendoline in this
Yes. That would be the best she had a twin the whole time trope.
@Nicole Black ok. I lied. This is even better. Morticia v. Morticia. It stays on theme.
honestly Wednesday dragging and humliating Xavier while he simps for her without getting any positive attention is just excellent
Mans a masochist and I respect that
He is totally the type of guys who dreams of a Goth Rebel Dream Girl.
Seriously. At least the coffee guy gets some positive attention from her. Xavier is just abused and he still tries
Maybe he should talk about it with his therapist…oh shit she is dead🫢
I liked it
No joke: I literally guessed who the master of the Hyde was because I told my mom, "Wouldn't it be funny if Christina Ricci's character was the bad guy? Ya know, 'cause then it'd be Wednesday versus Wednesday." My mom didn't believe me until the therapist (her main suspect) got killed and she said, "Okay... Maybe Tyler and the teacher *are* the bad guys..."
Lmao in my case, I started watching it on Thanksgiving with a cousin (who had already finished it) and in like episode 2 I just said out loud "It's Tyler" and he asked me why I thought that and I could only say "idk he just gives me the vibes" and he tried so hard to convince me it was not him but failed
The therapist and Richi were my top suspects. It was clear the therapist was a red herring. The only thing that disappointments me was who the hyde was, more so his reasoning. He was a hyde, would have liked it if he had two personalities, one personality would be the killer and know everything.
@@Mord12gp Agreed. Realistically, Tyler was a victim in this entire situation and him, and him being aware of what he was doing kinda... Diminished that, ya know? Not trying to take blame away from Tyler, that's just kinda how I see that ending.
Honestly, I think the writing was expecting people to be more aware on the many many adaptions of Jekyll and Hyde where that sort of split exists so it would be a surprise that the show is actually more following the way it worked in the original story. _The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde_ isn't the story of a good man who tragically turns into a monster while unaware of what he's doing due to a science experiment gone wrong, it's the story of a _respectable_ man who was an awful person at heart inventing a way that he could act on that awfulness without tainting his reputation.
@@fromthelostdays I don't think many people have read the story. We all just know the pop culture rules for a jackal and Hyde.
I think Wednesday's dance fit her in that it showed how little she cares about what people think of her. Most folks would either dance more normally or not dance at all if they feel self-conscious. Wednesday, on the other hand, just did exactly what she wanted to do.
She mentioned at another point in the series that she likes to dance, so her doing all those weird dance moves, without caring what those around her were doing, actually fits her character pretty well.
Plus, dancing has always been a part of the Addams Family in other iterations. Like, you can't tell me that Wednesday didn't pull out those moves during their family dance sessions while her parents did some dramatic tango and Lurch played the harpsichord. I just got the feeling that's what she thinks dancing is 😅 Or that even if she knows it's different, she doesn't care. She learned from her parents that doing crazy dances that make people stare at you is the Addams Family way
It's more than just how little she cares about what people think, it's not caring about whether it fits in with "her image" too. "Her image" is itself a thing that other people project onto her, not her actual identity, and she won't let that stop her being her.
I think it really cements how much being attractive overcomes other obstacles in your social bubble. While I like the dance and Ortega, she does everything that would get an average-looking goth bullied and I don’t think normal people understand how annoying that is.
It fits Wednesday’s observations about courtship, romance and seduction, too - and we the audience and Thing all know she’s into Tyler by the dance. Wednesday’s parents dance. All the time. Sure, they dance the tango, but Wednesday’s too young for that. This was Wednesday’s tango. It expands and fits Addams family canon perfectly.
@@kaitlinannwright24 Bingo! And the look in her eyes during the dance is pure seduction. Of course it is. She’s watched her mother do it with the tango all her life!
Both boys were so similar in looks and personality that I thought they were the same character for the first few episodes.
I kept forgetting which one was Tyler or Xavier
Exactly my thoughts
I didn't but they were incredibly similar
If they didn't have different haircuts I would have gone the entire show unsure which one is which
In defense of the dance scene: All that told me about her character, is that at her core, she is still an Addams, and the Addams are all spectacular dancers. Pretty sure the Addams have dance at least once in every iteration of the Addams Family.
So I rewatched this already and in that first episode I don't think her vision is caused by bumping into Rowan, it's from Tyler. Which makes sense because I watched again at the dance and she bumps into Tyler and has the Eugene vision. And both visions are from the perspective of the monster
doesn't she actually get the vision when thornhill touches her ?
But when she kisses Tyler she sees him in the vision from the third person, so idk if the visions are from the perspective of the person she touches
My two biggest problems were how contradictory Wednesday was written, ie being upset she'd have attempted murder on her rap sheet cause it showed she failed, but being upset Gomez might be a murderer. The second was the fact none of the Addams felt like the Addams family outside sometimes Wednesday. For example, Gomez and Morticia should have had at least a little chemistry, Pugsley gets tortured for fun but cries from being in a locker, Wednesday never hated her family but despises her mother and threatens to break Thing's fingers. Jenna was perfectly cast, and the rest of the cast was good on paper, just lacked chemistry and writing that was cohesive.
Yeah catharine and Luis don't have that chemistry the way Raul and angelica had
I think she was more upset that they never told her than that he killed someone. Pugsley was the least like an Addams. The Addams are supposed to be the most loving family ever so Wednesday hating the like that is very out of character. I'm just gonna call this puberty Wednesday lol. Morticia and Gomez have some moments where they are all kissy with each other, so I think they still work fine enough as adaptations.
@@HotDogTimeMachine385 I think it play off because she in high school, who does not hate their own parents when in high school
Yea they screwed up with that. Which crimes are acceptable to them and which are wrong because this makes no sense.
Poor Morticia and Gomez. They were always very much in love, as well as elegant and charming. None of that is apparent in the series. "How do we show that two people love each other?" "Idk. Have them make out a lot I guess".
The writers have demonstrated a worse understanding of romance than some 12 year olds. That pointless love triangle (edit: love corner?) with Wednesday was another real headscratcher.
I LOVE Enid. Absolute favourite character. Every time the monster showed up, we were like, she's gonna wolf out and fight it. I love Enid's bond with Thing, I love her relationship with Ajax, and I love every interaction between Enid and Wednesday.
Me too! I've seen a lot of people say she was annoying and cringy but since her and Wednesday are supposed to be complete opposites and Wednesday is so far into the macabre and murder and stuff, Enid is supposed to far into her bubbly, colorful, etc side. Plus, the way the actress delivers the lines so naturally (because this is just who Enid is) makes me feel like it's not so bad. I loved her mannerisms and vocabulary. How she basically never stopped moving, was overly emotional (A complete contrast to Wednesday yet again) and everytime she talked her voice had so much personality and intonation to it. Her "cringiness" perfectly makes sense for her character and it's so adorable.
@@moonshade_xr8349 yes! everything you said. Enid is adorable and there's just so much positive energy coming from her. Even post wolfing out, you see her in the pink coat, looking so vulnerable and lost, like a cute marshmallow. She is awesome and the actress carried the role perfectly.
Enid was the heart of this show, the emotional center, the glue that brings it all together to elevate the whole even beyond its solid individual components.
same right i LOVE ENID, esp the hug at the end. she's so cute
@@moonshade_xr8349 samesameasmeeee thanks for saying this!
I like it. I wasn't expecting "school for gifted youngsters" when imagining a Wednesday Addams show.
Right! The "fish out of water" we usually see with the Addams Family is overused at this point so it is nice to see her conflict be something other then "fitting in" in her own way. This setting just works better and allows for interesting side characters that are odd in their own rights and not just playing off of Wednesdays "weirdness".
Not enough variety of supernatural species
Tyler: We had a thing, you gave me hiiiiints!
Wednesday: Can you be my taxi?
I loved the students at the Nevermore: loved Bianca's whole arc from popular IT Girl to her deeper insecurities, her mum and her relationship with Xavier and later the mayor's son, all were so enjoyable. In the end, she was the one I was feeling super sad for her, and what she will need to do now that the school-year ended too early.
She was complex
I read some take describe her as just a bully and I was shocked.
Like Wednesday just showed up in her fencing class, said she was unbeatable, got her ass beat and that's basically the worst thing I think she does?
Meanwhile she's got a constant insecurity that noone really loves her including her own parents.
She's so sympathetically written.
@@carrotman And also she clearly liked Xavier who was like a puppy with love heart eyes the moment Wednesday arrived, so she's obviously jealous. Also, for Bianca, being at Nevermore is everything - her freedom, her life. Without Nevermore, she's back at the morning song app/cult. So when Wednesday comes and takes her place as the best fencer, wins the Poe race, and also has Xavier running around like a lovesick Romeo, going as far as asking her to basically use her siren powers get over Wednesday, and Bianca still chooses to help Wednesday confront Tyler - like she could just refuse and even ask the others to stop, but she didn't. Even if she didn't do it for Wednesday, she cared enough for Xavier, who stomped over her heart, to help him as well. I loved the depth given to her character, and all the people reducing this to "Bianca = bully" makes me wonder if they even watched the show
@@tathoiclassicalindianbollywood not to mention that at the end of the show, Bianca is straight up NICE to Wednesday! Like she says something about seeing her at fencing practice next semester and smiles at her. Also Wednesday was literally the one who started beef with Bianca first. I don't think Bianca was ever really a bully, she was a frenemy at worst
@@carrotman Dark skin girls are almost always seen as negative in shows. They're called bullies, aggressive, problematic, etc. Name the worst thing to call a person and it's applied to black female characters who show any hint of nuance, emotion, or feeling.
I didn't think Xavier was the monster, but I did think he was responsible for it because of his ability to make his art sentient. I thought he'd had a nightmare and drawn the monster, only for it to escape the canvas, but that he started using it as a means to attack people he saw as threats-- Rowan for almost killing Wednesday, the girl who saved his life, Tyler because he was a romantic opponent, etc.
I thought this was well about Xavier making the monster come alive through his art!
This would have been so much better!
I enjoyed it so much more than I expected. Ended up feeling bad for the sheriff, which I didn't see coming in the beginning. Xavier started geeting more interesting toward the end of the season when he actually showed some emotions and I hope to see him more fleshed out in the next one.
P.S. Also, petition to resurrect Weems, she's too cool to die.
Oh yes please! Weems doesn't get enough praise, she was gorgeous, cunning and brave and I wouldn't want a Season 2 without her!
I was surprised how much I liked the sheriff. He was genuinely the only one not doing cliche mistakes. He told Wednesday to go home like a responsible adult. He immediately checked her clues because he's nice and he trusted her. He immediately apologized to Gomez after the truth came out. His only personal flaw was trauma from his wife dying which... dealing with grief is a good story concept which led to him pushing away his son.
And Weems was cool. Her hiding crimes to keep the peace put her in a tough spot. She lied for the greater good. She was a great neutral somewhat morally gray character! And her tension with Wednesday because of Morticia reminds me of Snape, but if it were better written lol
@@HotDogTimeMachine385 Wait... the sheriff's wife died? Did they actually say that? I thought she was in a psychiatric facility, but now I don't remember if they actually said that either.
@@HotDogTimeMachine385 It's not badly written. There's a difference between hatred and tension. Both Harry and Snape hated each other with passion, but Harry was actually proud to be compared to his father, whilst Wednesday and Weems don't hate each other - Wednesday was just mad Weems wouldn't listen to her suspicions, and the thing Weems dislikes about her is her ability to be in the centre of all trouble.
@@user-pf6ko2lh6n I just mean that Weems is much more neutral about it. While a lot of people just excused Snape for bullying Harry and Hemione because we saw his flashback. I worded it poorly.
Weems had the potential to be a character that JK intended Snape to be. A nuanced teacher who has tension with a student because they're a former classmate's child.
Wednesday and Enid had much better chemistry with each other than either of them had with their actual love interests. Their friendship was so pure, and such a delight to watch. ❣️
Wednesday sitting alone after Enid leaves the room was the most emptions she had in the show. That speaks volumes.
Meanwhile the "romance" was just: Wednesday stares
The guy: "YOU'RE SENDING MIXED MESSAGES"
Totally agree
@@HotDogTimeMachine385 Ha!
@@angelaholmes8888 Yep!
Enid was so mean to Wednesday at first, but then we realize she was just lonely! And she wanted friends and so she did the thing typical teens do and she went to hang out with a bunch of bullies and became a bully herself!
Really, the best character arc was for Bianca. I thought she was going to be a one note mean girl, but damn they gave her layers!
so true. the part where she said that Xavier left her because he didn't know if she was using her siren powers on him...then continued by saying even SHE HERSELF could never really tell if someone truly liked her..just awesome. not the typical all out bad baddie
she really developed nicely as a character but my favorite character is Eugene. just a good and nice friend, what more would anyone want?
@@benzaiten933 this show has so many good characters. Enid, Wednesday, Bianca, Eugene, Weems. I thought Tyler was great too.
I loved her, yes.
she's my favorite!
i kinda hate that the fencing scene was her intro as the 'mean girl.'
to me, it seemed like she is a talented fencer who expects better from her competitors and wanted to be paired with someone who would actually challenge her. and Rowan (that's his name, right? i don't remember lol) just wasn't it.
but idk maybe i see it that way bc i was both an athlete and a dancer.
I just didn't particularly like the way Wednesday acted towards Morticia. I get that she's a moody teen and that she doesn't want to be stuck in her mom's shadow (honestly a good source of angst for her character) but sometimes she was just mean. The core of the Addams family is that even though they're all weird, they're an extremely close and loving family. It was always important to show them as being the most well-adjusted family despite the obsession with the macabre. I felt like she hated her mom during some parts and that is just so anti-Addams Family to me. I think that's why I didn't like adult Morticia very much in this. I like Catherine Zeta-Jones, but something about her portrayal of Tish rubbed me the wrong way. Maybe it's because I'm obsessed with Carolyn Jones's version and no one else will live up to her 😅 Regardless, I found the show fun, but it felt like an alternate-universe fanfiction of the Addams Family.
Tyler’s ‘what is it like …. To lose’ switch was one of my favorite parts
my favorite scene in the entire show, i got chills while watching even if i'd already figured out he was the culprit
I suspected Tyler from the start but I was so charmed by his character & how he made Wednesday come out of her shell that it made me cry.
Ughhhh I was hoping so hard it wasn't him and I was so sad
I actually loved the dance for her character. It showed her Addams side and how she ACTUALLY didn’t care what people thought, whereas if she didn’t dance it would feel cheap and too easy
Agree. Plus she loves to show off her skills. Consindering she is a latina character it makes even more sense. Dancing is just like walking for most of us😊
@@XEveryoneLovesEmilyX show off her skills + don't care what others think does not go together. She was also shown not wanting to open up and become vulnerable. Without any build up the dance felt sudden and out of her character.
I know this is the smallest of issues but piranha don’t just attack at random. They’re scavengers so they attack only if there’s blood to attract them
Lol, yes, I was just going "this is a travesty! You can't put them in chlorinated water! They'll die!" Although as a friend pointed out, they're Addams family pets so they'll be fine... maybe.
@@e.s.r5809 The chlorine was the first thing that came to my mind in that scene also
I figured it was Tyler when the plant teacher talked about how poisonous plants will use romance to catch their prey. So basically saying that Tyler was faking the romance as a trap for Wednesday
Ok, I gotta say Gomez taking the blame is actually very romantic and very Gomez-Morticia like thing to happen. I love it.
I still think the actor that played Thing deserves a lot of credit. Thats not easy. I'm glad they wanted to keep true to the series and movies in that regard and use an actual person.
Yes! It’s definitely not easy and the fact that they included Thing in a lot of scenes makes it more impressive.
While the first season was solid&intriguing and i'm very curious to see where they move the story next, there are definitely some mighty-frustrating things about it. One of them being that yes, Wednesday repeatedly shows to people that their value to her is purely utilitarian - they're tools that she uses to get to her objectives. And yet, people keep flocking around her and tolerating her either complete indifference or, in some cases, outright toxicity.
The worst example of this has to be Enid coming back to be roommates with Wednesday. That was, IMO, absolutely terrible, like, look at the events up to this point.
Enid gets annoyed with Wednesday after the birthday party, gets a glimpse of Wednedsay maybe-sorta apologizing, goes along with it only to find out that it was Wednesday manipulating her into helping her solve the murders, and now putting her in grave danger, and then proceeding to feel no remorse over it. That, extremely justifiably, causes Enid to snap, blow up in Wednesday's face and move out. And we're distinctly shown that Wednesday does actually miss Enid being around. What a wonderful set up for her to actually take a first step, put herself out there and do at least *something* resembling an apology. Like returning that vial she found, which i thought was an obvious set up. It didn't have to be much, just something Enid could see as a sign that Wednesday is trying to do better.
Instead, n-n-nope, Enid just comes back and proclaims "we work" on zero basis whatsoever, and the conflict is pushed into the background in an unresolved state. We get no apology or even an acknowledgement from Wednesday that she did something wrong, and Enid seems fine with a high-ass risk of getting manipulated and put in danger all over again.
The peach colored flowers the therapist brought to Eugene were also shown in Laurel's old room, that seemed like an obvious connection but they didn't really explain it when it turned out not to be her. It's oddly specific to be a red herring.
Yeah, I was thinking they were going to bring it back around to the plant teacher setting up the therapist but... they just never addressed it.
On that note: what was with the photos in the music box? Some of the photos were of Wednesday, Enid, and Tyler arriving at the house so.... Thornhill took photos of them arriving for... reasons... then immediate hid them in the music box and ran away again so that Tyler could Hulk out and.....? Also what was the point of Tyler showing up occasionally as a Hyde but then not actually trying to kill Wednesday? Was it to scare her? They needed her to resurrect the big bad, but she didn't need to be alive for that. Was Thornhill just really lucky that Wednesday was sent to Nevermore... was she just going to be a regular teacher forever on the off-chance an Addams would show up eventually? And why was Ye Olde Pilgrim Mass Murderer a wizard at the end? Isn't he supposed to hate magic? Why is he magic? Was he secretly an outcast? Why is he murdering them all then?
The more I think about this series the less any of it makes sense.
Yeah, I was really trying to think how they were connected, but I suppose it was just merely a coincidence? I do hope its explained in s2 maybe or else it will feel like the writers forced that in just to trick the viewers.
Good point I forgot about that
@@mollytovxx4181 Yeah the mystery in this show makes no sense - the characters, their connections and their development is the genius part here. Im sure they thougt while writing the show ,,lets make some Netflix Content" and in the end Wednesday was such a great Character, they came up with a big marketing campaign.
Im sure Pilgrim Crackstone will return in later seasons. I want an answer why this guy turns into Emperor Palpatine
@@mollytovxx4181 just... yes to all of this. I just finished the show (it took me one or two weeks to do it, I'm clearly not the target demographic) and I've asked myself all these questions. also, I really REALLY want Christina Ricci back somehow in season 2. Wednesday x Wednesday was just perfect!
I figured out the identities of both villains, but NGL, I enjoyed the show quite a lot.
I had Tyler pegged from like episode 3, but it didn't pick out Thornhill until it was revealed that Hydes have masters.
I had Christina Ricci pegged from the first minute she showed up. There was zero chance they'd bring back penultimate Wednesday in a new Wednesday show and have her be just a mousy background character.
@@annienunyabiz6627 i...watched the entire series and i thought you were joking when i read your comment...was that really Christina Ricci? my brain has exploded
I honestly hope Wednesday stays single. It's so rare that we have a lead character not involved with anyone, and honestly I would rather see her cultivate some really lovely friendships instead. For example I feel like it's so rare to see friendships between women that aren't more catty and "frenemy"-ish, but Enid and Wednesday have a really lovely friendship going and I want to see that continue. Side note, I think Jenna is against the romance too, (or at least the love triangle, but maybe all of it?). But I hope they keep Wednesday single.
I hope we see some others from the Addams family as well. Like Cousin It. Or Debbie somehow. 🤣
I would love to see Wednesday and Xavier have a strictly platonic relationship bc it seems like men and women can never be friends in tv shows. One has to have a crush on the other, or they're exes, or tgey end up together. With Enid and Wednesday, I'd prefer for them to be in a relationship because of their tropes and chemistry, plus the fact that Enid is the only person Wednesday listens to and she ,are her actually feel something. Personally for me, I've always watched tv shows with girls best friends in which I've thought they'd be a much better couple bc of the way they act around and treat each other, and that's how I feel about Wenclair.
@@moonshade_xr8349 I can definitely see the appeal, but I do hope she stays single. I think it's important too, to show that not everything needs to end in a relationship of some kind you know? As someone who personally has no interest in dating at the moment, it's nice to see someone on screen who's character arc doesn't end up revolving around getting into a romantic relationship. But of course, this is simply my opinion. I think whatever the writers end up doing will probably be awesome.
Completely agree with this take. My least favorite thing is how female protagonists always have to have love interests. Honestly any gender protagonist. Let's just make them single, maybe aro or ace. To me it's just the laziest form of writing because it takes away from the richness of a character, leading to them only experiencing conflict and growth based on another person. They go from a character with complicated emotions, to a character whose emotions get complicated by another person. And then the show only focuses on that aspect of the character. Plus to keep the romance interesting they usually have to make it toxic af so it doesn't bore an audience. I also think platonic love is such an important dynamic in the human experience, wish it was given the same amount of time beyond catty frenemy or rom com "let's generalize about men" between women.
@@LeapThroughTheSky as an ace myself (albeit not aro), I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said. I don't necessarily mind Wednesday having love interests (she's such a unique character by Hollywood standards that, if they stay true to that character, it almost requires a unique take on the subject), but I don't want romance just for the sake of romance. Wednesday's uniqueness allows a lot of interesting opportunities to explore or deconstruct relationships. I would be a shame to see it fall back on old overused tropes.
Also, I definitely appreciated the "Crazy Ex-Girlfriend" reference there (if that's what you were indeed going for) 🙂
Honestly, I kinda saw Wednesday as a grey asexual aromantic in the Ricci portrayal. The whole thing of her being more fascinated than attracted to the one person we see her show interest in, and as soon as he implies he'd like something more romantic than the odd kiss in their relationship, she shuts him down completely and tells him she'd never get married, would pity anyone who fell in love with her, and would murder anyone who attempted a romantic relationship with her. Like, she was young, but it still sets a lot more groundwork for an ace spectrum reading than a heterosexual, alloromantic one.
That was actually one of the things I did think the show did quite well for the most part. I liked her and Tyler's dynamic partially because it wasn't exactly overwhelming lust and infatuation from her end. She liked him, got along with him and wasn't repulsed by the idea of a relationship with him, but she wasn't exactly enthusiastic about it and it almost seemed like she was more trying out that kinda thing with him out of curiosity and a little bit as a way to punish Xavier for "being the monster" and for pursuing her when she clearly wasn't into him. They could've made a cute non-traditional couple somewhere in between friends and lovers if they'd have gone with him being unaware of what he was
Unfortunately, they definitely set the tropey groundwork for a long game Wednesday/Xavier thing and I am sooooo not a fan.
The biggest issue with Wednesday is that, with it being a mystery series, the mysteries themselves were so obvious and they took the most obtuse way to get to the reveals. I would be very surprised if people didn't pick who the murderer was early on- very classical red herrings strewn throughout the season which just made that character's reveal all the more obvious. And that's just one "reveal".
prepare to be surprised- i know at least two people, and seen multiple people, have no idea who the hyde is until the second to last episode. for example: my dad kept jumping from thornhill to xavier to weems at some point and my mom called it in the first episode but then changed her mind because of the herrings.
I, for majority of the series, thought that Rowan was alive and impersonating Weems (completely misunderstood the transformation scene). So... Yeah, I missed all the clues.
I kind of figure it as being like Scooby-doo; the mystery itself isn't as important as the characters doing the investigating and the shenanigans they get up to along the way 😊
@@impposter560 That's very fair! The characters definitely carried the show for me- the story was only okay, and the acting was what kept me invested. I'm also a sucker for good werewolf representation, so that was cool to see
@@yaboiiyadudee3644 Very interesting! My parents were very much the same- though with mum on her phone quite a bit and dad nodding off on occasion, they definitely missed some story beats haha
If I ever pictured Wednesday Addams role in a murder mystery show, it wouldn't be Wednesday investigating murders, more like committing them...
I loved the love triangle because it shows Wednesday just not giving a crap about the immature drama . She finds it silly but also finds it intriguing. Yet she doesn't care what the boys think and doesn't change herself for them, it's refreshing
Let me remind you all also that the writers kept Xavier in a literal wooden shed and only brought him out whenever to help Wednesday. AND EVEN after he was framed, he was still the one to apologize and bought Wednesday an entire phone??? I'm so glad that there's someone else out there also talking about their gripes with Wednesday! Don't get me wrong, it's a great show, just with a few kinks here and there.
Also that love triangle was just a waste of time...
"Dan is gossip girl"
Me, who only knows the show but never watched a single episode and isn't even sure when i'll get to watch it: "how dare you spoil me, Amanda!"
The original script had Wednesday leading a flash mob. Jenna Ortega thought that was too out of character and managed to negotiate it down to the dance scene we see.
I have to say, I didn't realize cellos could play rock music. But MY GOD I am in LOVE with the shows instrumental of "Paint it Black" and it got me on a HUGE 2CELLOS and other string instrument binge. Never let anyone tell you "you can only play classical music on a string instrument" cause JESUS CHRIST those two guys could just STRUM those cellos as if they were in a rock band.
I suggest their cover of Whole Lotta Love VS Beethoven, Thunderstruck and Wake Me Up.
Check out Apocalyptica. They’re a cello metal band from Finland.
You need to listen to some Apocalyptica. Four classical trained cellists that have been doing this since 1993. Their first album is "Plays Metallica by Four Cellos" and their version of "Nothing Else Matters" is what's in the show.
I tried to play cello in grade school but the program got closed down due to lack of funding and I’m STILL wishing I could play. 😢😢
There's so many great rock and metal songs that sound amaaaazing if you replace the bass with a cello, or the electric guitar/vocal with a violin.
Electric bowed instruments also look so cool, so skeletal and scifi
The thing I’m mad at is that we didn’t get to see Enid and Thing get their manicure’s 💅🏾😂
I was really taken a back in the last 2 episodes because it felt so crammed with several ends trying to wrap up. Uncle Fester conveniently passing through town who also happens to have the exact information Wednesday need was just *chef's kiss of a plot mechanic. My guess is they weren't sure they were getting a second season so they tried to wrap up what was necessary. And the fight with Crackstone was so short and underwhelming compared to how big a deal they made him sound and how terrified the characters were of the events.
I do feel like I'm missing a piece because why is Crackstone who is wielding a magical weapon and essentially a zombie so against outcasts when he is now an outcast, lmao.
the scene where Thing was flipping the pages on the book pretending not to be looking at wednesday was probably my favorite scene of the show
I love how uncle fester having electrokenesis actually clocks with first two movies from the nineties he was electrocuted in heh 1st movies andf in the 2nd his wife tries to electrocute and he didn't die and I just thought it was because he was anl addams like wait no,thats a cool way to give him a power that also goes back to the older movies,i thouhtg at least.💜
And the show, where he could light a lightbulb in his mouth.
Even in the old show he had electricity powers.
I really hope Tyler gets a (partial) redemption arc next reason - yeah, we don’t know how monstrous he is apart from the Hyde, but he still was abused and controlled by Laurel. I really hope they don’t diminish that he is in fact an abuse victim :(
When Wednesday tried to pull away but saw that Enid needed the hug and decided to do it despite her initial reluctance to love...
I loved the scenes with Enid and Wednesday and loved to see their very sweet and genuine friendship that progressed over the season.
I think the dance scene is mostly to be seen like her archery one. She goes, proves herself "superior" to the others, and thus, gather their hate, which she stated to love. So I think it does fit her, but need to be seen in the lense of arrogance rather than going to "have fun dancing".
For me the therapist will forever be primarily the co-star of The Loophole song. That was the peak performance that nobody can compete with
I find it interesting how characters change over time in franchises that last long enough. I wasn’t really familiar with the Addams Family before this show, and when I read up on them a little I learned that Wednesday Addams has basically had three characterizations: one in the original comic, one in the 1960s show, and one from the 1990s movies forward.
It really does go to show how much impact an actor’s choices can have on the public consciousness as far as how they see something.
Christina Ricci's portrayal has been incredibly influential to all the subsequent performances. Wednesday used to be the younger sibling as well.
There are cartoons, there's the play, there's the Adult Wednesday Addams webseries which is not official but everyone treats it like it is because we love it, and what fs me up is that it has more of a Wednesday vibe than this expensive show does and it was basically a passion project of a writer/actress.
That's what happens - distortion. Thank stupid fanboys and their unyielding desire to make somebody else's idea their own. Happens to almost all IPs.
So in the beginning I thought Weems was the big bad in disguise and that Xavier was making the monster by drawing it and making it come to life.
I feel like it was a missed opportunity to not have a 2nd monster, one that was accidentally unleashed by Xavier without his knowledge.
I’m hoping they can resurrect the head mistress. I liked her a lot.
Yeah I really like her
me too
Ngl, numerous dudes being into Wednesday even though she's cold and rude af is the most basic dude(TM) thing ever and so accurate. I cannot tell you how many of my male friends are into "dark and zynical goth b!tches" for no particular reason at all. Jesus, some of them stayed in abusive relationships simply because "hot goth gf is hot" so it makes *perfect* sense - considering the current Zeitgeist & male-gaze-y goth-gf-craze - for these dudes to be into Wednesday lmao.
Fantastic video btw ✨️
Enid is Wednesday's foil. Emma and Jenna's chemistry really made their dynamic so fun to watch.
I dig the fact that they’re doing something different this time rather than a rehash. I haven’t watched yet, but I’m starting to become a big fan of Jenna’s work.
She’s putting together a hell of a resume and she’s only 20.
Agreed, Jenna has come a long way since her Disney Channel days, and it's hilarious that her "Stuck in the Middle" character actually compared herself to Wednesday, being the middle child of seven siblings.
Yesss, like i saw her amazing scream in "X", the opening scene in Scream 5, her as Vada in The Fallout.
In Wednesday I love when she burns the statue and my favorite episode was 7, she really acted the hell out of it
I hope she and her agent protect her image tho, because a lot of people will hate her just like every other female that gets too much spotlight
As a little girl my favorite part about the addams family was how they subverted your expectations. They were this super dark goth family, but then they had the sweetest inside family dynamics which made you adore them. This adaption kind of threw all that out the window and made it ur typical family- just goth. I just couldnt find myself getting into it.
I think they could have done this show while still staying true to the original characters. personally think it would be better and have more heart
I agree and I'm not surprised by this given that tim burton is involved. Everyone still praises him and the man has had fail after fail after fail. So many more misses than hits. F'ing up like this is just what I'd expect. He doesn't get it, he just thinks he does.
Tyler flip-flopping so hard into villain-mode gave me narrative whiplash. I think it should've been more ambiguous as to how complicit he was for his actions as the monster, both in regards to the Jekyll/Hyde aspect and Laurel's role in it all. Him suddenly becoming the Draco Malfoy of the story, who doesn't care at all for Wednesday despite the hardcore simping, throws an unneeded amount of inconsistency into the story.
Amanda, I really appreciate the strength it took for you to not go ballistic on them naming the Colonial Era ancestor "Goody". It bugged me the whole way thru. That would be like naming a contemporary character "Miss". Did the writing team think that was just a common name at the time and not an honorific? Would the townsfolk call her "Goody Goody Addams"?
I think they really thought they were being clever with the idea of an Addams having 'good' in their name. They could potentially redeem themselves by having her literally just be called "Addams" or something and not having a first name, so she just kinda adopted Goody as her first name because apparently people like it if you have one of those, and that's what people kept calling her anyway.
Yes! That was bothering me the whole time.
Yeah I thought it was pretty weird. At first I thought they were calling her Mrs.Addams
I know, Goody is short for Goodwife. I kept waiting to hear her actual name. Also, I hate when they try to burn witches at the stake in New England. English colonies hanged people accused of witchcraft instead of burning them.
Thank you! That confused me so much but I hadn't heard anyone else mention it so I started to wonder if it was also somehow a name lol
I was hesitant at first, cuz there were moments where the Addams Family were out of character. But over time I started to enjoy the mystery and Jenna was amazing as Wednesday.
so the only character who said that the visions were unreliable was weems, who had a confirmed, sustained jealousy over morticia. my theory is that because morticia's visions lean towards the positive and happy, she saw her and gomez have a happy future and so she went for it, completely ruining weems' chances with him and she's convinced herself that gomez could've been HER happy future if morticia hadn't intervened
Finally someone else who agrees on Enid and wednessday's relationship! They're not fit to be in a romantic relationship. Leave Wednessday as aroace, I feel that's what she identify as. I got so annoyed at the other flirtations from the boys/love interests bc she don't fit with any of them. They fit as her friends, nothing else. The writers should've kept her single and not flirting with anyone, just let her have them as friends.
I totally agree. It was really uncomfortable to see someone you get such strong ace vibs from having romantic relationships lol.
Both aces and lesbians are so starved for representation we fight over it, which sucks. She's more aroace than lesbian, but It'd take either over the straight mess we got. 😅
Asexuality is a spectrum and not just about being sex repulsed. She could be Sapphic and asexual 🤷🏽♀️
@@favbubblegirl i did not get the vibe that she is romantically interested in anyone, that's what I meant.
Yeah agreed. For every version of Wednesday I've seen so far (besides this Netflix one, of course), she's always been disinterested in romantic relationships. She's more interested in harming others thinking it's a fun game (that's her thing to show she likes you sometimes, i guess). Having her flirt, unless it was a con to get something she wanted, is completely out of character for her. And even if she _did_ do it, that would probably be the last resort type of thing because nothing else works. (If you've watched Grim adventures of billy and Mandy, I'm thinking of that one episode where Mandy got all done up just to get over her emotions she had for a "cool boy")
Loved the show, but my biggest frustration was the connection between Morticia and Goody Addams. We've established that the visions are hereditary (passed down from Morticia to Wednesday), but also that Goody Addams - who has no relation to Morticia Frump, is kind of like a spirit guide for the Addams Family women. It's never explicitly stated that Goody taught Morticia about controlling her visions, but it's implied that Morticia and Goody have some extra connection. It would have been more believable and better if they had just made Goody a Frump instead of Addams.
Must note that Mortice says visions run in their line and their ancestors guide them. Goodie is Goodie Addams which means she's from Gomez's line. So Goodie being her guide works only if Morticia and Gomez share ancestry...
The show actually spoiled itself in the first episode.
During the first conversation Wednesday had with Tyler, she asked for a quad and was turned down because the espresso machine was broken. Wednesday asked him what was wrong with it and Tyler replied, "It's a temperamental beast with a mind if it's own."
I guessed it was him the moment he said that.
I watched this last weekend and actually liked it. I saw a few Harry Potter influences in it, though. There was a tree sculpture that looked a LOT like the Whomping Willow, Wednesday's dorm room being destroyed to find a secret book. The fight between Enid and the Hyde reminded me of the fight between Lupin and Black. Xavier looked like a member of the Weasley clan. There were a few others that I can't remember right now. All in all, it's worth the watch.
At first I thought Enid was the monster because of what she said about not being able to wolf out, like maybe she was some weird hybrid, actually pretty happy I was wrong
I hope Wheems has a twin sister so Gwendolyn can come back
I think dancing is absolutely an Addams thing. Not only the reference to the old Wednesday, but keep in mind all the tango Morticia and Gomez have had throughout the years
Don't forget the Mamushka!
I think that they set up Goodie to be a problem in the next season based on what Morticia warned Wednesday about
ohhh interesting!
maybe the healing Goodie did, did something to her !
ohhh interesting!
maybe the healing Goodie did, did something to her !
I forgot that her father’s Latino and loved that they made us remember.
Luis Guzman is cool but IMO Raul Julia was still the best Gomez ever!
@@DreFromMaine8472 yep totally agree
Me and my friends guessed that the headmistress was shady but wasn't evil because she had an iphone 😂 literally "she can't be the bad guy, she got an iphone, apple wouldn't allow that"
I figured the monster out at the carnival, then when they talk about Garrett's sister moving to Europe and drowning I figured the rest out. I loved the whole hypocrisy of the witch hunter using magic!
Yeah he did have the same mop of hair!
one thing i've noticed - the close-ups were extremely in-your-face. i'm not a cinematography buff, so i don't know if it was the angle or some kind of lense effect, but i felt like backing off from the screen every time there was a FACE.
As I was watching Wednesday, I always suspected Tyler was the monster, but I assumed that the reason the sherriff was so ntent on getting justice for the gate family was because he was in love with Laurel Gates and Laurel Gates was Tyler's mom. I initially suspected Christina Ricci as being the villian until we saw the Gates family portrait and then thought the therepist was secretly Laurel Gates because she looked more like the portrait than Christina Ricci.
At first I thought Laurel was Tyler's mom, which is why the sheriff was so obsessed with Garrett's murder.
after so many videos dedicated to wednesday... I realized that bianca and the principal are the best characters in this series for me.. I love how biancas character seems so deep and I want to know more about her. Coz tbh most of the time, the characters tell us why they are what they are, but bianca is unapologetic of who she is then later on the show shows us a little bit more about her.. same with the principal (sorry forgot her name). Dont get me wrong.. the mc is good and I normally like the show bc of its mc.. but with this series.. it slowly made me more interested with bianca...
EDIT: im also kinda interested in xavier.. in a way that.. I am interested and hoping that the show would give us more creative uses of his power.. cause his power has a lot of potential i think
The aspect of this I disliked the most apart from the love triangle was the school itself. Like, they set Nevermore up to be a place full of freaks where an Addams would theoretically fit in, but it's just a boring generic high school?? Like in the Carrie-esque scene, why would a student body full of VAMPIRES be scared of a little blood??? Make it make sense
I’m taking bets on Morticia being the new headmistress. It would be a stretch to justify it, but I could see the writers wanting to do it.
Xavier was into Wednesday because he has mommy and daddy issues, Tyler didn’t hurt Wednesday because he knew she was essential to the prophecy, Enid is lonely because even though she’s popular, she doesn’t have real friends until Thing and Wednesday (she’s not even involved with the Nightlocks).
Considering we do have shapeshifters set up in this universe I wonder if the teacher appearing at the dance while she was burning the hideout is just this - she had a shapeshifter show up in her place
At least I can totally close my eyes on this slight plot hole because it can be easily covered
on the subject of tyler's awareness: i had accepted (and was sad about) the fact that it seemed that tyler really was just lying the whole time BUT THEN i remembered the bathtub scream; laurel controlled the hyde but how complete was her control of the person? was it like a switch and BAM, complete servitude all the way through no matter his form? if so, what was with the scream? was laurel's control more like a creeping poison, taking more and more over time and that muffled scream was the last time tyler had any kind of real control? was his initial interest (and personality) genuine and laurel just used that and twisted it. because if any of his personality was really him, then i'm in the steve rogers mindset of "free that guiltless sleeper agent"
The dancing thing might be a reference to the old Addams Family movies that is implied that the family has a tradition of dancing and they all have very... unique styles. So I think that was in character for her. I have some gripes with the series but certainly is in the realm the "enjoyable"
I really liked it. I found with Riverdale and Sabrina, the writers would write a scene, and then go back and add more darkness to it. Almost as if trying to separate it from its more upbeat source. With Wednesday, they didn't have to worry or think about that. The Addams family are "dark" characters. So you don't have to add extra darkness to fit the mold.
From what I've seen of Wednesday, they've put all of Wednesday's brother's "good traits" into Wednesday herself, together with her own... Wednesday was the scheming and smart one in the cartoon, and her brother was the one that actually carried out the schemes, often at her behest. I haven't watched through the show yet, though.
Based on recent history the only way Netflix would cancel this show is if they canonized Wednesday/Enid
Bianca using her siren powers to get Tyler to admit the crime would probably not result in a legit admittance.
Since Tyler and the teacher's relationship gave me serious grooming vibes (and the flashback scene where she touched him felt like she also used s3x appeal on him), I kinda hope he gets a happy ending of some sort.
Wednesday stares
The guy: "YOU'RE SENDING MIXED MESSAGES"
I swear the dumb romance triangle made this show into comedy (I mean love corner. A triangle would be equal in three ways, but the two guys aren't romantic with each other. Two guys push a girl into it. Let's normalize that!)
I just read Tyler's actor Hunter Doohan is a married gay man. NO WONDER THEY HAD BAD CHEMISTRY. HE'S LITERALLY GAY, hahaha
That's insanely accurate, even Jenna stated that Wednesday didn't seem like the type of character to ever be in a love triangle, but it was just arbitrarily thrown in because, hey, it wouldn't be a teen drama without a completely unnecessary love triangle, now, would it?
@@trinaq I went into this show knowing there's gonna be a bad love triangle and the queerbaiting (netflix promoted the show with Wednesgay). So the moments with Wednesday and guy1 and guy2 felt comedic. Especially because she was so unamused by either of them.
Also we need to stop calling them love triangles and call them love corners. A triangle is equal in 3 ways, but these... are just a girl stuck between two guys. That's a corner.
@@HotDogTimeMachine385 Precisely, Wednesday should just focus on being her awesome, snarky self, especially since she barely even showed genuine interest in either guy.
@@HotDogTimeMachine385 oh stop it with that stupid meme🙄 it's been called a triangle for decades you're being ridiculous
@@FS-qk5uq Yes, and it's inaccurate and unfair to both female and male characters :)
If your argument is "x has existed for decades and you're ridiculous for wanting to improve it." I'd like to introduce you to ...pick any place in history
fun fact: although "barista" comes from Italian which is a Romance language, and all Romance languages have gendered nouns, it belongs to the class of words ending in -ista, which is a rare class of words in that it !!DOESN'T!! have gendered forms! So, a man like Karl Marx is a Comunista! and a guy like Jimi Hendrix is a Guitarrista, and Charles Darwin was a Cientista, and henry ford was a racista.
Ortega was amazing but my girl Brienne was fabulous in this, they should have saved her. I so wanted her back in s2. Didn’t love Zeta-Jones in this, I would have preferred someone like Eva Green. Thing is just ❤❤❤. Finale with the pilgrim weirdo was meh, I choose to forget it. Does not surprise me that both boys were into Wednesday despite her rudeness, they both were effed up for different reasons. She stands out even in the school for outcasts.
If nothing else the dance scene alone made this a must watch. Jenna was brilliant there keeping the same expression through the moves.
For me, Wednesday fills a Sabrina-shaped void.
I originally thought thornhill would be the monster because when we first see her she mentions the mud on her boots.
From what I understood, the principal wasn’t in love with Gomes, but rather with that other guy that was obsessed with Morticia and ended up getting killed
The principal mentioned that she went to the dance alone because the guy she wanted to go with already had a date, and said it was Gomez
16:57 "Love a good altar" made me laugh more than it had the right to
Not a fan of the love triangle cause I don't see Wednesday in any romance that includes the Enid shippers but as a gay Tyler was hot. And can we just give Jenna Ortega all of the awards?? She killed it!
There’s clearly wasn’t any romance going on between Wednesday and Enid, so people need to shut the hell up. Idiots always looking for something that’s not fair. 🙄
Not a fan of the love triangle either but this is a more mature version of wednesday and her past versions have been as a child, she's going to start having romantic interests now as a teen/adult
@@FS-qk5uq ace and aro people exist!
I personally feel the overly convoluted mystery is very much aligned with the Nancy Drew and Hardy Boys mystery era and really felt inspiration was drawn from that with an Adams family filter. Loved the show and will definitely rewatch. Also my husband and I are Enid and Wednesday respectfully, lab and black cat energy lol.
"No idea why guys were interested in her, she has only ever been mean to them. Maybe thinking she's cute is enough."
Yeah, no shit. That's school.
I did not expect to enjoy this show as much as I did.
I liked the dancing not only because it was based off of her research on some goth dancing but becasue she's an Addams! I thought it was a great nod to Morticia and Gomez and to reinforce she is in the end an Addams. I'm not sure if they made the dancing scene for those of us who are Addams family nuts but I took it that way.
Yessss! The double snap at the end!
I purposefully watched the show before your video, but after watching both I think that might have been the wrong order. You laying things out for me really helped with the convoluted mystery that, while I understood it, wasn't really slotting into place for me. Also, the scene where Enid said "It's recommended to wear white for the ball, but that's going to be difficult for us" was so cute and really showed that they are both outcasts among outcasts and have a special connection despite seemingly being opposites.
I already had reason to watch Wednesday, now I have reason to binge it. Be back for this vid after lol