Diana and Tamara's games
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- čas přidán 14. 05. 2021
- Diana and Tamara talk about 47's exploits, leading to a little game where Vidal tries to guess which famous assassinations in the past twenty years were orchestrated by 47 and Burnwood.
Elusive target footage was from their briefings because I don't have any footage of them, I (obviously) can't record any new footage, and I don't want to steal any from other CZcamsrs because that's wrong.
I hope we get the final Yardbird as an ET in the future; it'd be so cool if they subtly teased it like this months before even properly announcing it.
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No, the World of Assassination trilogy does not take place in an alternate timeline/universe/whatever, and Diana is not a time traveller.
The WOA trilogy did to Absolution exactly what Absolution did to Blood Money: they took on a very different tone, and didn't see it as appropriate for it to continue the last game's story with that new tone. The result is the Hitman tradition of a game setting up a cliffhanger just for it to never be followed through.
Previous games' assassinations are directly referenced throughout the WOA trilogy, making it clear that the events of the previous games are still entirely canon (apart from a few minor retcons for the sake of telling a coherent story).
We've literally seen the "aLtErNaTe TiMeLiNe?" argument before _within the WOA_ around Patient Zero, which also had a fairly big tone shift, and the result of that was its confirmation as canon during Chongqing and Mendoza.
Heck we see an Absolution target killed in the montage of 47's past kills (the legacy one).
I assume that the only non canon events, are the SARAJEVO 6 one ( along with Hitman 3's secret ending).
Aren't some Elusive targets considered non targets? Specific ones like Kody Hanes (The guy trying to steal the painting in the Dartmoor map) it is stated that he appears the day Madam Carlisle arrived and it wouldn't make sense for 47 to go out of his way to just kill Kody then not kill Alexa on the same day both of them die by his hands. Perhaps the events happened but were just changed.
But there are references to Absolution in the WOA trilogy. When you climb into the coffin in the isle of sgail in hitman 2 Diana will say something to the tune of “its been a long time since I’ve seen you playing dead.” I havent played that level in a while so i dont know exactly what she says
@@sgtlomon3890 We even see the Aboslution target in the strip club killed in the montages after you complete the ICA training, the guy shot behind a one way mirror.
If Tamara wasn’t just about to die, I’d say Diana was talking too much.
Not really...Olivia Hall and Agent 47 already did that, making all the ICA data leak through the world.
If you kill her Diana says you don't usually get to know the targets and 47 says you liked her didn't you? (Or something like that)
@@The-Mad-Doctor Yeah, this was the first time that Diane ordered 47 to kill an actual childhood-friend of hers.
@@werewolfx51 yes but all of Diana and 47 contracts wasn’t leaked
@@werewolfx51 But 47 removed the data relating to 47 and Diana
Lol at Diana saying Blake Dexter is from a parallel universe. Funny detail
Yeah,how she's remember Absolution storyline???awesome details👍
@@vladosplay7261 Because it technically happened but they are pretending it didn't, not unlike how Absolution did to every other game.
I dont remeber good but I think Diana is killed by 47
Amos Dexter I think his brother or friend👍
@@ljubinkonikolic4620 nah she fakes it shes still alive at the end
We gotta respect the man for following an NPC without killing them for hours on end to get this footage
Oh, there were difficulties
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I think you cant kill diana? Because shes his boss or am i wrong?
@@rakawajdi8920 ye you right I meant 1
@@rakawajdi8920 shes his handler.
@@debbiefaron8746 I think you can kill Diana but it instantly fails the mission
"This is Diana, she's my carer. She cares so I don't have to"
Ah, a nice Doctor Who reference there.
😮❤
Sadly Diana can’t never pick up the glass and drink properly...
'Tis the
*P H A N T O M*
*S I P*
She has a drinking problem
She knows 47 is at the party... Therefore she trusts nothing... I presume... I think she is paranoid that she will drink or eat something meant for someone else😏
Show me a video game where characters can hold cups or glasses properly. Or walk down or up the stairs.
@@supershinigami1 RDR2, among others
And Tamara thought 5 regular security guards would be a threat to him?
She actually seems nice, but just kinda dumb.
Why are we killing her again?
@@nobleradical2158 essentially because she's too smart and too loyal to Providence to be left alive. She'd put two-and-two together once the main target (Don Yates) is killed and immediately inform her boss that Diana organized the hit.
@@slashharkiri4581 Which is why Diana laments Tamara having to die, she actually did like her, though at the same time, it makes her realize that one shouldn't get to know their target too much, otherwise, they start caring about them in ways an assassin shouldn't.
@@combinecommando001 That's why 47 was made the way he is. For the ability to get close to his target and not feel a thing when the job has to be done
In fact, yes.
Well he probaly wont die but five guards can ruin your silent assassin, and they will probaly shoot you before you shoot them and this will cause ALL the guards to get alerted
“He was the gun, I was the safety” idk why but I love that line
"You're just a bullet, you're not even the whole gun" - Tamara Vidal's last words if you hold her at gunpoint
I think the reason why you like it so much is because it highlights 47 respects Diana enough to be the safety
This whole segment feels like such a love letter to Hitman fans and its basically IO just reminiscing on their very long history
Mendoza's assassination methods are like that too
"47 is broken in many ways but he's self-aware about it and does his best to be whole."
naww
2:59 Aleksander Kovac was a client, and he requested the assassination of the three Yardbirds members (Dorian Lang, Doris Lee and Guillaume Maison) in Himmelstein to retrieve the buried money all alone. However, he was later captured and will spend his rest of his life in prison, spelling the end for The Yardbirds.
I'm aware that he's in prison, but it makes no sense for Diana to take credit for his _assassination_ if he's still alive and imprisoned. If I'm right about him being a future elusive target, then he'll probably escape from his prison off-screen and try to blend in within one of the maps from Hitman 3 - likely either Berlin or Chongqing.
@@CassidyCope he was captured during H2 story campaign,you can see it on news in H2.Makes even less sense
@@CassidyCope Imagine if a new map in a prison is for a future DLC or something, and you kill Kovac as he attempts to escape/be released.
What are you talking about? Why would a guy request the assasination of 3 musicians? None of those guys were ever in the Yardbirds either way......... Edit: wrong Yardbirds lmao sorry I was sleepy
@@samwitherington4386 that would be sick but Io Interactive already said they aren't making any new locations so sadly that will not be happening.
Tamara was the only one smart enough to realize all these high status people randomly dying wasn't a coincidence
She's also ex-CIA, and you'd have to consider that the CIA have likely caused their fair share of "accidents" throughout history.
Other NPCs have dialogue referring to it as the １％ Killings.
this is weirdly wholesome, also your editing was top notch. Thank you for making this.
As wholesome as reminiscing over murders can get, y’know?
lmfao Diana saying Dexter was a parallel universe!
That's uh...Absolution...we're not too proud of that one. Don't look over there.
hitman absolution is best hitman I ever play.
Absolution had some fun ass missions though
i agree with the other two replies. Absolution was a fun Hitman game that doesn't deserve the hate that some people give it. Besides blood money it's the only one I ever replayed multiple times. Hell I only played through2, 3 once and never touched them again.
@@ljubinkonikolic4620 Then you didn't play a Hitman game at all. LOL
Absolution was my gateway to the Hitman games. Loved it, and after watching and reading people's thoughts on the internet about it, decided to play the OG trilogy. have to admit i can't bear the first two games, never touch it again after starting for a bit, but Blood Money? Fell in love with it. I understood the "drastic change" of Absolution, but it was still fun and not as bad as people've claimed. But i've to admit i love the WoA and BM style of levels more than Absolution.
Awesome! Didn’t know about this. Also it’s pretty funny to see Tamara say “quite the resume”
I like how Diana covered up Absolution
technically it happens in the future as Diana is still alive, but why they reference dexter like this is beyond me if thats the case
@@nathanharrison2 Diana doesn't die in Absolution.
@@pepethefrog6809 ive played that game enough. the first mission is to kill Diana and in her last breath begs you to protect the girl
@@nathanharrison2 Apparently, you haven't played enough, or just wasn't paying attention. It is revealed in the final cutscene that 47 didn't kill Diana, he shot her but did not mortally wound her on purpose. She survived the supposed "assassination" and faked her death. She was with the girl at the end as Agent 47 checks on them through a scope of a sniper rifle. She even thanks 47 after you finish the last level when you're at the "score screen".
@@pepethefrog6809 there is no such scene. if you find a link showing the whole run and secret endings, please provide a link, but the final scene is 47 reading the letter provided by diana after he shoots her
This is actually quite cool that they included this dialogue
Vidal showing she is sure about Kamarov goes to show just how much Ortmeyer trained Grey and 47 in a similar fashion that their MO is indistinguishable.
3:39 for those who don’t know, Kamarov was killed by Lucas Grey (agent 6) for Novikov
"set up as a Langley spy...his death will not be investigated"
Ye I caught that,however he only set Kamarov up as a Langley spy,the FSB got him
@@emperor223
No, Grey killed kamarov by setting it up as a suicide while making it look like he was a Langley spy, the fsb were not the ones who killed him
Odd that Tamara asked about Edith Van Orten, as we do actually know who that is. If we give the surgeon Erich Soders' history in Hokkaido, we learn that Soders himself killed Van Orten back in '78. That would place her well before 47's time.
Yeah, now that I think about it, that is really weird. I'm pretty sure 47 would've been 14 years old at the time. So much for a CIA agent who read into the institute.
love how it's clipped like Vidal's pestering Diana when she just wants a smoke or a drink. Like a child with 20 questions, but w murder
Yardbird was mentioned in Sniper Assassin Gamemode in the briefing. He was the one that hired ICA to eliminate the 3 members of the Yardbirds gang so that he can inherit the hidden money. I don't think that will be a future Elusive Target cause he was only mentioned in Hitman 2 and that was 2 years ago. But nice video keep it up!
I would like this comment except the number of likes are just perfect
And in the ICA training on the yacht, the target is also a member of the Yardbirds.
Didn't stop us from killing Roman khabko
@@jev2359 Yep Erich Soders killed the first one of the YardBirds to die. 47 pretended to kill him again in a training mission and later 47 killed all but one of them, but the dialogue implies that the last one will be killed later.
I could see someone wanting the last one dead so they set a contract or they wanna get the money is some way like the child of the last yardbird wanting inheritance
Its funny how people over analysis the bit with Blake Dexter. Absolution IS canon as the opening montage of past hits in Hitman 2016 shows 47 killing Dom Osmond in the Vixen Club from Absolution. All this dialogue is just a walk down memory lane and they did a simple 4th wall break about the events of Absolution like the developers knew they dropped the ball and screwed up as it was a drop of quality compared to what came before.
This video really deserve more views, what a supercut.
Lord Winston Belingford was one of the 2 Targets in The 4th Mission of Hitman: Contracts, The other Target was his son, just like the Mission of "The Finish Line" His cause of death was canonically via smothering, because there was no other way to kill him without raising the alarm.
The Contract took place in their Manor, Similar to the Manor of Alexa Carlisle, but it occurs at night time. I also want to include the mission had another objective to rescue the Client's Son.
@@ozyman1776 Never knew, Thanks man
2:44 Winston Beldingford was the old man killed in the mission Beldingford manor. It is believed that 47 smothered him to death while he slept as the canon assassination
Tamara: Dexter?
Diana: *We don't do that here*
When Tamara is asking to many questions it’s funny to see Diana getting more pissed
0:28 I love this, Diana talking about him while he is standing 3 feet from her
"That was a parallel universe." Not even IO wants Absolution around.
Not only are the dialogues filled with humorous puns about the franchise but they are well-written, it's a pleasure to listen to all the sophisticated lines and the voice-acting is spot-on. Great video!
This is amazing! SO much work must've gone into this. Thank you, Casimir!
Damn 47 has killed so many and I thought he only killed a few
Well,what should you expect of an expert assassin
a few? 18 missions across the trilogy and 20+ elusive targets
"How did you disable the cameras for the whole floor of that jail?"
can we talk about Diana's wine drinking skills? she somehow manages to drink wine without her wine glass in her hands.
I keep getting distracted by the fact Diana's wine glass keeps teleporting from her hand to the table.
Blake Dexter was a personal kill for 47. Which is probably why Diana said it was in a different universe. Which is what made Absolution a different game in terms of tone and storytelling. I still prefer the classic Hitman games though.
on the news in hawkes bay it said that alexander kovak got arrested and he is also dead
so probably he might not be a et
Aw, we never got a prison-themed level and now I'm slightly disappointed. 47 could have killed him there.
@@carlsiouxfalls I would love a prison level with a yard with hidden shank. The only thing with a level like that is it would probably be small and more linear cuz lots of small spaces but it could be a really good idea. U could have GP and PC a and have to check in to get close to the guy. Or bribe someone to fight him and have him sent to the hole. They could make a opportunity where u leave either a shank or drugs in a guys cell to get him sent to the hole. The target could have someone smuggle drugs in for him which u could poison. U could get a job in the kitchen and poison the targets food like that. There could be visits where someone smuggles in something for you. There could be a way to start a riot and the target gets killed in it if u plan it right. There could be a church in the jail. And at the end there could be a couple special exits. There could be escape exit, an exit u can only get if there's a riot and the target dies before or during the riot. U could even have an opportunity where u get the target to kill a guard and they end up putting him on death row and hang him in the jail and u could steal the executioner's outfit and do it yourself. I have so many ideas for a hitman game. Level ideas, weapon ideas like stun gun or flare gun and bean bag shotgun. Or I wanted blunt weapon to be able to kill but u have to hit the guy like 3 times or something. First hit knocks them out then next one does nothing and the one after kills. I have ideas about letting people make Hitman levels. Like the creat a contract make creat a level. It would be cool just probably can't have the characters talk which would suck but u could have a blank level where u can make a building and put characters wherever and set up their routines and if you do a certain thing the sky will walk over here and then Target will walk with him to this location. It could be done but I'm not sure how hard it would be.
2:55 While it was a bit 4th-wall breaky, at least they acknowledged Hitman:Absolution.
thank you for making this !
its epic
great editing and dedication for a 4 and a half minutes video, and if wasn't for it i'd die without knowing about this interaction of diana with tamara
Nice job bro damn this could be a movie just subbed 😎😎😎
Diana's "no" got me shook xD
I like how you show clips of each person being killed.
Very well put together
Funny how all the ones she was wrong about were the ones where the cause of death is specifically known ;) Almost like you can approach the assassinations any number of ways! :D
For an uptight CIA agent, she's pretty likeable.
When tamara said it was five against one 47 could tell who killed all those people as a bonus xd
I knew it
I knew it
I knew it
I knew it
I knew it
I knew it
Called it
@@georgeporscheguy3240 Damn I was sure about that one.
@@GamingGalaxyWasTaken too good to be true.
I love Tamara quizzing herself on 47's targets. For a girl who prides herself on intelligence it must have been like a candy store figuring out 47.
Everytime a target name is said theres a flashback this is basically coming back to playing hitman 10 years from now.
I have a good feeling that this will get a lot of views
the detail in this is great
The yardbirds leader isnt an elusive target, they are from the first out of the three sniper assassin mode maps (the wedding one i dont remember the name)
The leader of the Yardbirds was the _client_ for Himmelstein. He contracted 47 to kill the 3 targets so he could claim the money they had stored away. As of Hitman 2 he was inside a prison, but it doesn't make sense for Tamara to say his name among the rest of 47's victims and for Diana to take credit for it if he was just arrested. Hence, my guess that he'd be a future elusive target.
@@CassidyCope He got Epstein'd.
No, Kovacs was a target in Hitman codename 47, in the asaylum level, Tamara was mentioning him, not the client from Hitman 2 (Sorry about my english, i am from Italy).
@@ivanmello4274 ciao
Amazing video
How does Tamara manage to guess every 47 hit? She must have been really following the pattern! Shrewd! I had no idea what this video was gonna be, I thought it was gonna be extra dialogue I hadn't heard (true), but gameplay as WELL, showing the referenced kills? Now this is a video you should REALLY be proud of, holy hell. Dedication 10/10
I think Tamara is smart enough to make some educated guesses. Most of what she needed to do is to list off the suspicious deaths that haven't been confirmed through the ICA leak.
Paralel unvierse line is a smart joke about how much hitman fans hate absolution
2:58 that would be pretty rad, we take out all of the Yardbirds. But then he was the client for the Himmelstein mission (I'm not sure since I only played that once). But then the wiki says he was captured in prison but it also acknowledges that line. That would be really cool though, I hope that happens.
Well technically Soders killed Ritter but eh
Btw, if anyone doesnt remember why the opera singer and his politician boyfriend was hit, basically they created a massive underground pedo ring. They dealed in cp and in children themselves. He basically created wallmart for nonces.
Personally, I found the level to be amazingly, in-depth and the way you killed the targets; fenominal.
In that game it was one of the few targets I kept killing him over and over again.
2:52 Aw come on yall dont gotta be that embarrassed
Did Diana just say that hitman absolution isn't canon?
It's canon, but if you say it's canon, 47 will appear behind you with a garrote wire and *GYUGHHHHHH*
It's quite odd that she doesn't bring up Dr Ort Meyer and what happened to him and he's clones.
Since this is a guessing game, I think it is obvious that 47 already kill Ort Meyer. Not to mentioned that Ort Meyer requested 47 for the job.
It would be cool that the more she knows of 47's Exploits, she should be waaaaay more on edge.
And not bring 5 fucking guards to confront you. Like just a bit more would help
Tamara: Julius Caesar?
Diana: Sure.
Tamara: John F.Kennedy, magic bullet theory my ass.
Diana: Correct
Tamara: Adolf Hitler?
Diana: Yup.
Tamara: Rasputin?
Diana: M-hm
Tamara: John lennon, Jim Morrison and Jimi Hendrix?
Diana: Right
Tamara: Archduke Franz Ferdinand?
Diana: Yes.
Tamara: Figured as much :)
Tamara: Michael Jackson?
Diana: No..
Tamara: Togotubeetru. :(
Tamara: Tupac, Biggie Smalls?
Diana: wrong.
@@ambrosaur3646 Damn i was sure about that one.
Agent 47 is... *the time traveler.*
@@65firered "Mr. Rieper is, in many ways, a man out of time..."
I laughed so hard when i saw the thumbnail idk why
"I knew I had you pegged"
As she walked right behind Diana
2:51 Even IOI doesn't like to remember Absolution lmao.
I loved that game tho. It was my entry to the franchise and I regret not a single minute of playing it.
2:50
Absolution confirmed for not canon.
Thank God.
What did she mean with "parallel universe"??? Hitman Absolution is not canon?
It's just a little joke about how we don't really like to talk about Absolution. Diana is not Doctor Who.
@@CassidyCope Unless, Diana is secretly a timelord???!?!?!!
47 looks a lot older in Absolution. I think it makes sense for it to be a different timeline.
@@d3modawid I don't think he looks that much older. I just think Absolution's face model makes him look like an enraged bulldog in the cutscenes.
@@CassidyCope I don't mean to come off as toxic, but The Doctor ain't called fucking Doctor Who, I hate it when people call The Doctor 'Doctor Who', the show itself is called 'Doctor Who' because people say 'Doctor Who?' when The Doctor introduces them self(I'm saying Them as The Doctor has no actual set gender, they can be male or female)
2:50, this makes very happy.
I noticed the only kills she gets wrong are the ones where she says how they die. Makes sense
Vidal: "You are a bullet. You are not even the whole gun."
Diana: "He was a gun, I was the safety."
I'm genuinely astounded there are people who played this level and thought Diana actually turned on 47 by the end. Shit I'm surprised 47 thinks that himself with the amount of times she's done this stunt. Thrice now. IO is gonna pull this again and somehow still make people think she might turn for real lol.
- Diana Burnwood?
- Other universe
The "parallel universe" bit is pretty funny even if it doesn't make sense from multiple angles. However it would've been better if it was something like "not our proudest moment" where it's still a meta joke but doesn't make the player question how self-aware Diana is.
Everything else though was great, it's amazing how many fun conversations are sprinkled throughout the WoA Trilogy.
Too good to be true.
0:33 the cook on the left is a dlc character
"quite the resume" she said the line!
I'll take a gander at Adeze Oijofor, or Nne Obara.
Very interesting.... We also know now, that 47's elusive targets are canon. And some of the der games target are still got killed by 47.
I feel like half of this just tamara naming names of dead people, trying to guees if 47 was the one who killed them
What I learned from this video:
"Too good to be true"
"Damn I was sure about that one"
I believe the yards bird stuff was hitman 2s sniper assassin game mode
No the yardbirds are from the sniper assassin mode
The leader wasn't, he's canonically in prison so we could see a possible level that takes place there.
Tamara Vidal is such a cool target in my opinion
She uses the same sentence for every question😂😂
3:34 nope, that's a *different* Ort-Meyer assassin lol
To be fair, Kamarov was killed by Lucas Grey, so Vidal was close on that one, she just had the wrong clone.
2:52 So Absolution is no longer canon?
Too good to be true
Why has no hitman game since the first one allowed you to wield a minigun?
And she was about to throw away the gun for safety reasons
Nicholai kamarov was killed by Lucas grey for viktor novikov. He mentions it in the showstopper cutscene
I love how she never guessed Jordan Cross, she knew 47 killed Ken Morgan but Cross never came up
47: Umm guys I know that I don't say much but seriously I'm right here...
Anytime she specifies a cause of death, it’s not 47, because of the whole open assassination thing
Huh, seeing as i only owned absolution until a year after hitman 1 came out i never considered the fact that absolution was a different storyline, i was confused why 47 was an agent still in the new series
Holy shit that Blake Dexter voice line was mad! So absolution really isn't connected to anything... Shame, I really liked it
Some people thought that "Parallel Universe" means Diana don't want to talk about that (maybe she don't want to talk about ICA's internal mess), while some believe it makes Absolution non-canon.
@@ckmichael8 the non canon story makes sense, since it would explain why 47 looks completely different now. Also explains why that police detective from the end of absolution has never shown up again
But that's just a theory, a game theory
Apart from a few very minor retcons for the sake of Diana's backstory, Absolution is still canon. The new trilogy definitely has a new tone for the series, but assassinations from previous games are directly referenced throughout the game, especially in the "Legacy" cutscene after the prologue and Diana's dialogue in Mendoza.
Absolution isn't even the first game to set up a cliffhanger that was never addressed; Blood Money did the exact same thing in its own final cutscene, just for Absolution to (similar to the WOA trilogy) completely ignore it.
@@dinoduderocket my two cents here, maybe that police detective gave the tips to interpol (no local police sheriff could have ever tracked such an international assisan 47, right?), which caused the inspector in Hitman movie 2007 to chasing 47. As we know, the inspector in the movie was provided a body of another Agent as a cover up for 47's fake death, so it is possible that 47 was assumed dead in the Hitman trilogy timeline.
They did Absolution dirty...
..... Did IO Interactive just throw shade at Absolution? XD
They've been doing it for a while now. The blog that announced Hitman 2016 after the first trailer came out even specifically said there'd be "No checkpoints." Very funny considering that the 2016 dev team (and much of the team for Hitmans 2 and 3) was basically the exact same team that made Absolution.
@@CassidyCope Props to them for knowing when they went wrong.
Nicholai Kamarov? Wait a second...