A History of Chief Wahoo
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- Since his debut in 1947, Chief Wahoo has represented the Cleveland Indians. Although the image has long been controversial, recent team victories has brought the logo under closer scrutiny. But where does the image and name actually originate?
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Just ordered a chief wahoo new era hat 🧢 cant wait to rock that old school vintage looking mlb cap
Did you get it yet
Has any snowflake called you a racist yet?
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Redskins, Braves, Seminoles, right or wrong Cleveland is not the only team to use Native American imagery
Gary Kost I agree. When I was going for my two-year degree, I met Goldbach's grandson, Kenny. Kenny said that his grandpa felt terrible about drawing him.
@@CROSSTATT Yeah right. He probably started feeling terrible when all the white liberals crawled out from the woodwork to protest. He probably didn't even consider the possibility it might be thought of as racist before that point, just like most people didn't.
@@mandark8561 liberals are a joke. They are all brainwashed. It’s an embarrassment to America.
@@CROSSTATT you're lying. And if that's true, he was a pathetic coward. Don't see you complaining about the Vikings, or the highlanders.
Not anymore :)
These protesters need to get a life. Chief Wahoo is a symbol, a caricature, a cartoon. It's not supposed to be realistic. It's goofy and whimsical, and designed to make people, including Native Americans, laugh in happiness, not as a derogatory gesture. It is also interesting that no evidence has ever been shown that a majority of the Indian population has a negative view of the Chief. I am certain of this because if a poll did show this, believe me, the protesters would use it! This whole thing should be a non issue. It figures that two people who lead the protest are being indited for embezzling government funds that were designated to go real Native Americans What a bunch of hypocrites!
sandy lamovsky you perfectly explained it
I’m native and I think the chief wahoo thing is silly but what do you mean hypocrites?
sandy lamovsky, you have absolutely no say in this as a privileged white man
Notre Dame isn't the "Leprechauns", it's the "Irish". It depicts an ethnic group in a cartoonish way. Explain the double standard.
Well I am Irish and it dont bother me a bit
@@emmav6529 oh bleeding heart liberals unite .....lol hilarious loser
tim allen i’m not even a liberal. but you don’t have to be a liberal to care...
Emma V Amen. Just because we care, doesn't mean we're liberal.
A lot of Irish are proud of being depicted as hot-blooded, aggressive. I have friends in Ireland. They don't care about this. They like being called the Celtics or the Fighting Irish.
A lot of Irish - Americans go to or open up bars and celebrate this.
I don't know any Native Americans proud to be made fun of as Chief Wahoo - which if you listen to this video is a derogatory name.
Please consider an end to arguing for the sake of making a point - try to resolve issues instead of arguing for the sake of enjoying an argument.
If people are offended for good reason, then move on and find a new name.
If enough Irish or Irish-Americans are offended by Notre Dame, then they should change the name. I know hardly no one - and I'm a die-hard football fan - and I have a friend who started on the ND oline and works for ND right now. I hear almost zero protest about ND's mascot. Nobody when I went to ND was protesting about the name.
So it sounds like you're using ND to argue - but its a bad / weak argument bc few Irish people are truly offended. Whereas plenty of Native Americans are offended.
Go to Cleveland Indians Facebook to see what the fans really think about this change.
They are rightfully disgusted and yet many of them still foolishly support this franchise that caters to communists
Im a Red Sox fan and I think cheif wahoo is not racist its a logo and its a team name
and I bet you're not Indian either
Ahdi Boom's Paperwork shut up
@@thevoiceoflakersnationtv2047 Why is there always one snowflake like you defending Marxism?
@@thevoiceoflakersnationtv2047And neither are you so stop using that garbage argument
The first mention of chief Wahoo can be found in Indians programs dating back to 1947.
He says, "Notre Dame doesn't count because 'leprechaun' isn't a race." They are the "Fighting Irish," not the fighting leprechauns! The ND logo also obviously plays up the stereotype that "most Irish are alcoholics" as well, so why is the Indian okay, but the drunk, fighting Irishman not okay?
Because the Indians who are asking for the name change are clearly unhappy about it while no one is protesting against the fighting irsh it's not that hard to figure out
@@bellacampos5451 obviously the irish are not touchy little snow flakes like most
@@acefrehley9411 And good for them, but that doesn't change the fact that most Indian mascots offend most native Americans (I'm quoting another documentary on this issue). Beside Irish people and native Americans have a different history with America, Irish people had the privilege of comming here as immigrants (albeit faced with judgment and racism) but chose to come here nonetheless. Native Amercans essentily got stripped of everything. So yeah I'd be pretty pissed too if the only representations of myself are used comically to support some pointless football games and only kept because irate fans are too childish to allow any kind of change to happen.
Oh that’s right Caucasians have had it hard with race and cultural appropriation throughout history right?….oh wait no…that’s mostly communities of color. From colonization to discrimination. Perhaps you should ask the person that made the logo for the Irish?
Their used to be a Chief Wahoo McDaniel who was a professional wrestler. He always wore his Indian headdress to the ring, did the Indian war dance, and had a chop to the chest moved called the tomahawk. He was a real Indian too, playing the stereotype Indian. Does that make him a racist, making fun of his own people?
No. Nor does it make him insensitive towards those who do deal or have dealt with racism. However, if you (on an assumption you're not a Native American or at best your an "Elizabeth Warren") did the same it could be misconstrued. (or perhaps properly construed)
Chief Wahoo was formed on the basis of racist inclinations towards Native Americans, the newspaper articles in the video above show it plain, however, society and culture change. Similar symbols and many of the other "derogatory names" (i.e. Indian or Redskin) have been used by Native Americans to assert their culture.
Their use of those derogatory symbolism doesn't mean some won't be offended by let's say "The Ridiculous 6 by Adam Sandler" or even Chief Wahoo. Of course not everyone will share that view, but is it wrong for someone to have that view?
Is it wrong for a person to be offended? Is it wrong to want change, or even protest for change? I would say it isn't, nor is it wrong for the Cleveland Indians to get rid of Chief Wahoo. Personally, I think they should get rid of it, but this isn't an important hill to die on. (At least the symbolism, anyway.)
However, I don't think we should "ban" it. That is the government shouldn't ban it. Corporations can ban the symbol or the names if they like.
Anyway, "Pro-Wrestling" is soap operas for men. lol. Just felt that needed to be said.
Nope. It makes him a proud Native American who loves his culture. It's the white liberals/communists that wanna cancel all the Native American imagery. All in the name of supposed "racism." Give me a f*cking break.
@@Niros8889 I'm still wearing wahoo
@@Niros8889 native american?? anyone born in this country is a native american
sad to watch him go
The 1898 logo, name was "Rufus" created by the KKK founder. crazy how the Cleveland team adopted that logo in 1946
It's pronounced 'veck' not 'veek'
As in 'wreck'
I think it’s stupid that people find everything so offensive
Obviously you can’t find it offensive if you are not native
7 Tâpwêwin you’re right I’m not but I am Irish and I don’t find the fighting Irish offensive
Good for you, that doesn’t mean that indigenous people are ok with the Indians, the redskins wich is a slur according to the dictionary
Seabass Cribel Chief Wahoo isn’t real either. It’s based off a Native American. I’m mentioning the Fighting Irish because 1. The logo that they used is based off of old Irish literature and 2. Just trying to make a point that people need to making everything a problem
yep white people aren't offended so that makes it ok.
There is a 1st grade teacher that still has a chief wahoo in his classroom
Still wear the hat all the time cheif wahoo Is a OG
Bigot
What first nation (a.k.a. tribe) was Walter Goldbach connected to?
Welp, now in 2019 it’s officially gone
Welp in 2020 Redskins logo is gone. As a navajo this is dumb. I’ve loved these logos. I’ve never seen anything wrong with it.
Welp in 2021 there is no Indians
When I was in Missoula I saw so many natives with Indian and redskin hats
By 2030 the Braves, Chiefs, and Blackhawks will no longer exist.
what gets me is that cleveland was bullied into changing their team but nothing was said about college teams that are run by indians that are still aloud to be called indians guess they want it both ways
:10 - Veck is pronounced like Beck - not Veek:11 - that is not a picture of Walter Goldbach when he was 17Walter designed it as a cartoon similar to the inspiration of Disney’s Steamboat Willie - the owner wanted a light-hearted caricature as it was after the War.
Found one of these old hats from my grandpa's house. It goes pretty hard
Why don't they talk about the American Indians as the people whom broke the color barrier, instead of the African descendants. Truly the former is as much a people of color as the latter.
2:24 “it’s the ONLY logo of an American sports team to depict a specific race”
this guy never heard of the Chicago Blackhawks or Washington Redskins?
Nice gaslighting.
"its the only logo of an american sports team to a specific race" The fucking Redskins
As a white man, can I be offended by the New England patriots logo depicting a Caucasian?
Chucho35 Pewdsmiester that’s not the same and you know it. Come on man.
Jared Dalgleish it’s actuallly exactly the same
You're desperate for trying to compare the two. smh
Only difference is the big grin. Are Native Americans offended by the teeth??
@@YEGHOLON How is it harmful in anyway shape or form? I genuinely wanna now.
What about the Celtics and Vikings? I find it amusing how black players wear the Celtics logo with the Irish man in it. The same with the black players on the Vikings. Isn't Notre Dame actually Catholic? I thought they are Irish themselves and take pride in being Irish Catholics.
Where are the fact checkers on this one?
What about the San Diego Padres? I see no Catholics offended there.
WAHOOFOREVER
Leprechaun may not be a race, however, isn't Notre Dame actually depicting that all people of Ireland are considered leprechauns? So if you find Chief Wahoo offensive than Notre Dame's Leprechaun should be also. SAVE THE CHIEF!
Well, I guess if more people actually protested the use of leprechauns and pirates for decades then those teams might be put in a position to change it's logo.
How about a famous Chiricahwua Chief ‘s face - Geronimo!
Go Indians
People need to start on some pity inches except that is a baseball teams logo/mascot
Bring back cheif wahoo!
The Guardians is cool. I'll just enjoy the fireworks because everyone and everything is Wahoo. Cheese even I'm a little wahoo. THANKS YOU CHIEF WAHOO.
The Guardians name is so much worse than Indians and the Wahoo logo is infinitely better than their flying G logo. Don’t support the Guardians.
first the chief died, then the team got renamed. what a shame
Ikr
Leprechauns aren't a race... But neither are Chiefs
Doraemon
Indians live in India.
You call people in India, Indians? I call them Indian people. I call Native Americans Indians just like everyone else did throughout history. Get over it.
Natives live here in America.
Sure do miss when we were allowed to pay homage to native Americans through our sports teams instead of somehow being offended by them.
We can still pay homage by wearing Wahoo gear and boycotting the team.
It's just not the same cleveland I can't get use to the guardians
If you want to pay homage to native americans, give back their land.
@@purpleblastoise to which tribe exactly?
@@purpleblastoiseThat ship has sailed. Changing the logo and renaming the team didn't help them get their land back so what was the real point of it? Are the native people content now?
I love chef wahoo. Sad it's seen as racist, Gives me a small.
@@YEGHOLON Chief Wahoo is one of the best logos in sports. I can't believe a Native American like yourself doesn't realize how much people admire the logo. You think Cleveland Indians fans wear it proudly because they wanna make fun of you? No, they wear it proudly because they hold the logo and what it represents in high regard. It was never intended to be racist in anyway and many Native Americans like the logo.
@@YEGHOLON keep the chief
@@mandark8561 exactly very well said thank you
Flush the chief. Its freaking racist and not funny
:(
It's about as stupid as the Redskins name change. Bring back Chief Wahoo.
what about the browns named after a person ( THE BROWN BOMBER) JOE LOUIS.
Jeffrey Chaney I believe it’s named after the teams first coach and founder Paul Brown.
@@veganswag1966 you are correct my friend
DONT CHANGE. GO CHIEFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Jews
I’m part Indian… all they have to do come out with special edition every season and take the sales from the merchandises and donate to the Native Americans.
Nowt better to do with their lives
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they're not even indians.
europeans landed on the continent thinking they were in india - as they were looking for trading routes to india.
the name stuck even though they were wrong - talk about entitlement.
No Columbus thought he was in the West Indies - Not "India". No one knew that land existed at the time. But you want it to be changed just to fit your PC worldview. Talk about entitlement. World doesn't revolve around you, boy.
@@themanthelegendjmw Still no "Indians", bubba..
2:28 Ironically racist
Go spiders
Ew
Well the cry babies ended up getting their way
I’m white, so don’t take my opinion as gospel. In my opinion, Chief Wahoo is an offensive caricature and I’m glad he’s gone. Even as someone who supports Native-themed teams, the Chief logo is just racist. They just need to bring back the “C” logo from the 70s and everything will be perfect.
idiot
Snowflake
Boring
I've realized liberals are good at making everything as boring as humanly possible. Creativity and liberalism are polar opposites.
Oh goodness! Just get rid of it. Grown adults fighting with Native American protestors over a logo?? 🤦🏻
Opportunity to work with NA groups to create a different name and mascot.
Indian isn’t a race either......
They need to remove it.
Awww is someone upset
Cant remove it. Even if the players themselves don't wear it, us fans will still wear our Chief Wahoo hats, jerseys etc. to games.
@@mooiemooface1550 thats exactly write mooie we love you chief wahoo
Imagine actually typing "they need to remove it" and then clicking the post button.