♫ Dunlop Cry Baby vs VOX V847 Wah Demo ► (HD Audio)
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- A comparison of these two road proven legendary wah pedals. Used by some of the greatest musicians to walk the earth, they each have there own flavor and character. I personally dig them both, but the vox does it for me. What do you think?
0:11 vs 0:39
1:03 vs 1:19
1:28 vs 1:39
2:15 vs 2:27
--- w/ distortion
2:44 vs 2:56
3:13 vs 3:22
3:32 vs 3:36
3:43 vs 3:48
4:03 vs 4:13
4:26 vs 4:34
4:43 vs 4:49
4:57 vs 5:21
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This was a perfect demo video. No annoying talking for ten minutes first, a view of the pedals being tested - just straight up, no nonsense. Thank you.
Even though Vox kicks Dunlop's ass
EXACTLY!😎👊
You got that ! Now same effects into a computer ?
The Vox is a bit thinner and brighter... I would guess Jimi would say" both are hip and have a groovy sound man...Peace'
It might have sounded different if he changed the order of the pedals.
The vox has more of a quack than the crybaby
@@johnwattdotca it isnt really that Big of a difference
@@pistonhead2k Does this mean you're willing to argue about different 9-volt batteries? Or the length of your guitar cord?
@@johnwattdotca yes, it isnt really that big of a difference
0:11 vs 0:39
1:03 vs 1:19
1:28 vs 1:39
2:15 vs 2:27
--- w/ distortion
2:44 vs 2:56
3:13 vs 3:22
3:32 vs 3:36
3:43 vs 3:48
4:03 vs 4:13
4:26 vs 4:34
4:43 vs 4:49
4:57 vs 5:21
...pant
Livia Andreasi Bassi Damn you're a good person. You deserve more thumbs up :D
Thanks
I'm leave you two alone
This is about as cut and dry as you can get on an A/B video. Not a word spoken and no intro...the award for most unnecessary comment goes to you.
@@Online_ToughGuy He got that award 5 years late though
I don't know I changed my mind at least 3 times during this video.
I like them both equally to be honest.
I'm thinking Cry Baby because I play a strat and I'm afraid the twangyness that comes with that combined with that extra bit of treble with the Vox might destroy the world and kill us all
ah yes i know exactly what you mean
I have a Strat too, a Crybaby and a Vox AC4TV... It has some treeble but you can tame it a little bit. The only downside with the Crybaby is the point in the middle position of the pedal 'cause it goes from semi-dark tones to trebly land. What did you choose?
You can adjust the pot inside the vox really easily you don't even need tools. I haven't owned a crybaby so I wouldn't know if they can do the same. But yeah its very easy to get a bit more or less treble quack out of the voxes
I use crybaby because I hate treble.
i play a strat with mim style ceramic pups through a v847a. i am mayhem
Come for the wah, stay for the shoe.
Yeah yeah yeah
To clear things up.
Jimi Hendrix initially used to play what was called a "Vox Crybaby", and it was made in Italy during the 60's by a company named JEN. In the late 60's, American company called Thomas Organ copied the design using different components (probably due to what was available in the U.S. at that time) and named the pedal "Crybaby". Jimi Hendrix is noted to have played both models, with Thomas Organ Crybaby being used on his late recording such as the Band of Gypsies. As both companies failed to register trademark to the name "Crybaby", in mid 70's Jim Dunlop bought the rights to the design, and therefore the name which is still in their line of products to date. Both Vox and Dunlop have marketed their retail pedals as a classic, original recreation of the 60's wah pedal, but all of the current day models paled in comparison to the originals. Since the early 90's, Dunlop claimed to have reproduced the original specs of Jimi's own Crybaby, although all of their attempts to recreate the pedal proved to have little to no similarities to either of the two original 60's designs.
Also of note is that at least in the early days, both the Vox Wah and the Dunlop Cry Baby were actually made by the same company--Thomas Organ.
It really helps to have guys here like you who know what the f@#K they are talking about. Thank You!
@@1rainsong1 its 2020, why are you censoring? we know youre saying fuck
@@Jordan-rb28 I apparently have reached the part of youtube that made me laugh out loud well done
Sounds good enough to me
I prefer the VOX, but if I ever do a porno soundtrack I'll get the Cry Baby.
hahahahahahahahahahaha
Hahahahahaha I'm fucking done - that's so funny
Now I know Why I prefer the Crybaby...thanks XVideos. You made my setup!
That's honestly one of the first things I came up with when I got one. There's not much more fun you can have with an effect than with a wah. :D
hahahaha
This is one of the best if not the best Dunlop Cry Baby vs VOX V847 Wah Demo comparison I have seen & heard on youtube; unlike so many other comparison video's we are gifted with a complete honest & true comparison because the artist/guitar player here plays the same parts on the guitar and he also pitches the pedals in the same relative positions as he plays, and also unlike so many other video's he doesn't just talk a bit about the differences between the pedals and then use the video as an excuse to show off; thank You whoever You are for sharing this video!!
Finally a wah demo where the playing allows you to hear the wah! Too many vids with people playing 4 note blues licks too short to hear the wah or just playing weird shit in general. Best wah demo I've seen so far.
nice shoe
Bobby Murphy I didn’t even think about that. Who’d use any foot pedal shoeless?
Bobby Murphy I feel you dude
The Crybaby for me. It seems to have a more throaty, human vocal wah tone than the Vox wah. The vox wah seems brighter, more trebly tone to it.
Well, i like that more trebly sound. But hey, that's just my preference. Everyone has a right to their own personal taste
I've spent the past hour or so checking out wah wah videos comparing Vox 847 and Crybaby. This is the only no nonsense video I have seen, and im glad to say that I have now made up my mind to get the Vox!!! Thank You for sharing your demo with us whoever you may be ☮️❤️☮️
Tough call, but I think the Vox just slightly edges it for me. Regardless, this is about the best side by side review of the two pedals that I've seen. Really gave a good indication of the differences between the two. Good job.
Vox seems to be much wider of a sweep and more versatile, but there's just something I like about that Cry Baby tone. It's rich, it's full, it's got a very specific character. Can't say which I prefer, but I do already have a v847, so if I just get both, I could have the best of both worlds.
Agreed!
As an analogy, consider each as pedal as the same individual vocalist singing into a mic... to MY ear(opinion), the Crybaby sounds like the vocalist is singing quietly but with the volume being amplified electronically. The Vox sounds like the vocalist singing loudly with little volume amplification, a more "diaphragmatic" or natural sound.
I tried both at a shop. Although the cry baby sounds a bit better, the vox felt way better to use. You could feel the smoothness and you're putting pressure on it. The cry baby felt like it was just dead. There was no pressure or spring feeling.
You are spot on in your analysis. For guitar, I think the Crybaby sounds better. Vox feels better to play.
You can turn the potentiometer down on the vox one to cut back on the high end treble btw, it's what Hendrix did
Dalton Heitmann You just saved my life when I was thinking about fixing that
Potentiometer..? Vox does not have potentiometer
@@ascensionofnyxthere’s a small potentiometer in the pedal to control the tone sweep, just like you’d find a tone control knob on a guitar
If I had to choose either the vox or the Dunlop, I'd buy your shoes, I loved them.
never let them know your next move
I’m having an aneurysm trying to decide
I feel your pain 😢🤙
if you want better distorted sound, go with the crybaby. v847a goes better clean
What did you get?
@@braydenhamilton2655 I ended up getting a Vox, my friends have cry baby’s and some days I feel like theirs almost sound better to my ears but I like being different anyway haha but I like them both
@@stew-tube i picked up a vox yesterday, love the sound but worse case scenario, the store said i can always come switch for the cry baby.
I go for the Vox. Sounds good clean and with distortion. The Crybaby has the bass a little much.
Vox more treble, Cry Baby more body...
Germán Muñoz vox more range
Most excellent demo, and smokin ~~vibrato~~ chops! Reminds me of NUGENT,IOMMI, LIFESON(esp. RUSH debut album), PAGE, and the dude who demo's and sells the GMR BC BENDER pedal.
You, sir, have taken the king's words to heart "a little less conversation and a little more action" and I thank you for it!
The exact video I needed to see! Thank you!
3:43 i thought he was gonna bust some kirk wahmmett
Had the v848 for years made in the US but they're all coming from China now. Perfect for reggae with a Strat, Gibson or any ax for that matter. On the hunt for a replacement via you tube lol. 847 sounds more suitable than the cry baby. Thanks for allowing us to hear the difference. One love.
well made review, finally someone who actually knows what people expect from one, thanks!
Both pedals are not true bypass and they are known to be tone (treble) sucking because of a "not so stellar" input buffer. In this video the Vox might sound more open (or trebly) because the effected sound doesn't go through a treble sucking buffer. When the Crybaby is on, instead, the effected sound goes trough the Vox treble sucking input buffer. If you reverse the pedal chain (putting the Vox before the Crybaby), you might get a totally different result. You really need an effect bypass loop (or mod both pedals to true bypass) to be able to do a fair comparison.
Interesting fact. Thank you. I didn't catch it at first.
Yes, but thing is, the Vox is already in front of the cry baby
you've got the order of the pedals wrong.
Great information
Which side is the input?
Let's hear them in the mix with a band or recording
CryBaby sounds warmer and has more character imho
. And it has a much cooler name than just "847" ;-)
In February of 1967, Thomas Organ released the wah pedal to the public. At first, the device was marketed as the “Clyde McCoy,” named after a jazz trumpeter who extensively used a mute to create a “wah-wah” effect in the 1920s.
Vox's inductor clips the guitar signal asymmetrically, however the Dunlop's inductor doesn't, it has symmetrical clipping.
Think about diode clipping, you can use the same diodes to make the signal clip symmetrically or you can use different diodes to clip the signal asymmetrically.
"I saw no differences at first with tiny sine wave drives. It wasn't until I turned the generator up that differences appeared. The Crybaby inductor performed exactly as I would have expected it to. That is, it had an output that was essentially a pure sine wave right up until the sine was big enough or lowe enough in frequency to start it into the first touches of saturation. When that started, I got precisely what theory predicts: appearance of the third harmonic of the dirve waveform, followed by fifth, and finally a touch of seventh when I really pushed it. However, when I did the same to the Fasel inductor, the onset of saturation-generated harmonics happened a bit sooner, and a second harmonic appeared with the third! As I turned the drive up, the fourth rose with the fifth, and I never got a seventh harmonic. The inductor, all by itself was clipping asymmetrically.
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www.geofex.com/article_folders/wahpedl/wahped.htm
I came here for the shoe. What’s it he keeps stepping on?
Fender
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I would pic the vox purely on how cool it looks 😂
I've had them both, and it's Cry Baby for me. A little more creamy/warmer.
Sold.
Crybaby sounds creamier, Vox sounds snarlier.
I agree. Vox has that crispy shiny treble. the Cry sounds warmer, I prefer Cry Baby for some jazz, blues and soul, and VOX for rockful funky grooves YEAH!!!
After years of crybaby’s of different types I like the vox the best. The vox doesn’t choke out when you lean it back like the crybaby does and you don’t have to lean the vox all the way forward to achieve a good sweep. I can play most of a solo with 75% of it and It goes all the way down when you’re hitting the right notes. Crybaby’s just don’t hit that spot for me on the high bends like a vox does. The vox is superior in every department.
If I played clean stuff and would do those wah sweeps that are more of an effect I'd go for Vox in a second but playing on overdriven sound and more eq like action it has to be Crybaby. Two iconic wahs yet very different sounding, both have their ups and downs.
Bravo à TheRevelegendEMG . Ici, la simplicité à comparer est si efficace, que l'une ou l'autre de ces Wah dévoilent chacune leurs subtilités très clairement , cadeau de l'ingéniosité du concepteur de la Demo, sans nullement oublier d'agrémenter le tout d'un virtuose de la guitare qui sait '' ne pas être invasif '' Superbe production.
VOX,,, any day. Maybe its a placebo effect when the content is the same, but Cry Baby is Wah-wah, while the Vox is more quack-quack. Stronger contrast when using the pedal in syncopi style.
you made your point here, mr :)
I don't understand Cry Baby for my ears is a more organic and better sound, I came to ask myself which one to buy but I see that more people prefer the Vox, now I have more doubts.
Try both of them yourself
I confess that I bought the VOX just because it looks cooler in the pedalboard
I don’t care what Jimi wannabes day, the cry baby is still the best!!
Zedd Fulltone Clyde is the king
I've got the Vox V847. I was considering to get a Cry Baby, but I think I'll stick to the Vox.
Bought a cry baby and it went mute and stopped working 5 minutes after playing it. Replaced it with a vox and it’s been perfect ever since.
The VOX is close but the original JD CryBaby is the only wah that ever feels and sounds right to me.
I owned a crybaby, then a VOX after i broke my crybaby from over-use. Ended up trading my VOX wah in for another crybaby after trying it out live.
The VOX has way too much high end and not a very deep curve. It literally hurts ears when used with a loud tube amp at stage volume. The crybaby i find is much more responsive, has a sweeter sound (no icepick) and can be used from porno grooves to metal solos
I don't like how the vox pedal changes the tone of the guitar. Cry baby is more guitar tone friendly.
Vox is more liquid and great for clean sound. the Cry baby is dull and suck in comparison in clean sound but still get the wahwah sound. at the opposite, the Cry baby is great in distortion whereas the Vox is too much bright and fizzy. Just get bot of them ;)
Lol. I bought the vox for myself back a few years ago. I bought the Dunlop Crybaby as a gift for my niece when my brother bought her an electric guitar for her as a teen. She lost interest in playing shortly thereafter so I ended up keeping the pedal so I got both. So I get the best of both worlds here.
Nice job, thanks for the video.
To me they sound VERY similar, but probably agree with you, if I had to pick it would be the VOX. (with sad feelings for leaving Dunlop...)
solution is what you did: have both. :)
The vox opens up a lot wider.
I own the crybaby but now I want the box it sounds more vocal
I think I prefer vox cause clapton used one. Especially playing white room in cream.
¡Enough reason!
The Vox is a little bit funkier in my opinion.
Yeah, it's gotta be VOX for me, way brighter...I think it's got a better bypass circuit too. I had a Crybaby in the 80s, and it had a noticeable signal attenuation while on bypass.
same for me. glad to see it didn't come from my ears ;)
Yep Vox
Great comparisson, best one I've found on CZcams. Thanks a lot for doing this and uploading. Still undecided though, the Dunlop sounds smoother, but the VOX sounds more edgey.
I clearly prefer the Vox. I like that clear bright sound. The Cry Baby has a distinctive "creamy/swampy" sound that goes well with a Marshall amp. But I'm just more of a Vox guy...
i came here wanting the vox to sound better, but the crybaby although it sounds brighter to me also seems to sound fuller in the sweet, sounds almost like its got a bit of resonance whereas the vox just seems a little dead in comparison? can somebody please convince me otherwise already please
Why would you want someone else to convince you otherwise? Your opinion based on what you hear should be enough.
+soh loh Came here for the exact same reason. I just got the Vox a few days ago without really thinking about trying out the Crybaby as everyone talks shit about them...low and behold I find out one of my favorite guitarists/tones has always used a Crybaby and not a Vox as previously thought by the majority of people..now I find this video and actually thought the same thing you did about the Vox being dead-ish/flat/decayed compared to the Crybaby...I'm mad about it.
Somebody, please convince both of us. kthks.
Tyler McClanahan
i actually gave up on deciding for now and picked up tremonti's sig wah pedal which doesnt have a mechanical sweep and is prob the most transparent ive heard... however sometime soon i plan to pick up a crybaby because i think its going to be more fun to tweak nobs inside the thing to my own preferences like all the greats did.
i think the vox is going to be less intrusive and easier to get the hang of wah pedal techniques maybe but i wouldnt be disheartened at not having a crybaby right now, its all about knowing what your particular pedal has to offer i suppose
and using that to your advantage
also dont quote me on this but i think crybabies are a little more prone to damage
+Tyler dude check out equipboard.com/pros/jimi-hendrix/#effects-pedals this man used the vox way back when.
+Tyler the same)
I just dig the throaty-ness of the Vox
having them hooked up into eachother like that doesnt do much for a fair comparison, since they both have quite alot of tone suck even bypassed. Using a true bypass looper or just demoing them seperately and then mixing the clips together would be a fair comparison.
I love the subtletly of the Vox over the Crybaby. Personally I'd be happy with both, but I chose the Vox.
just what i was looking for thanks!
I have Satriani's big Wha Vox, that vox in the video just needs to be turned 1/4 of a way so it doesn't sound so high pitched
Take the Vox apart & adjust the shaft to the potentiometer, taking a little treble off & they are exactly the same pedal.
Crybaby seems tighter with less range. I like it
I love VOX, I will get one tomorrow. Sounds better than Dunlop to me. I am not big fan of Cry Baby pedals, but those two pedals sound very similar. To me, VOX is slightly better, sounds better on clean sound and I love his nice, sweet sound better than on other one.
I find the cry baby to be richer and smoother while the vox has a sharper, cleaner tone.
I was going to say the wah but now im leaning towards the cry baby.
very helpful!
I have a Vox V845 and to me it misses full range tone, it goes to muted to open too quick , therefor I need to be very precise with my foot to get the tone I want. I am thinking of getting a Cry Baby instead.
Same experience here!!!
Same
You ever get the crybaby? You like it better ??
Absolutely
Having this problem
I prefer the vox more funky!!
I think I prefer the crybaby. Reason being is that the VOX seems to be a little sharper to listen to and kinda hurts my ears (I'm wearing headphones haha) while the crybaby seems to muffle it a bit, making it easier and smoother to listen to. Just my opinion :)
I love so much your shoes
CryBaby is the best.
After owning them both the Cry Baby sounds better for the music that I do. But my Morley Bad Horsie 2 is my favorite.
Excellent demonstration!
very good demo
i have a cry baby wah and 535q but it's hard to change if the Vox wah has less trebles
I owned a vintage Vox Wah back in the day, but although I miss it ( for sentimental reasons only ) I love my Morley Steve Vai ~ Bad Horsie II more :P
nice video and so well played, dude!
what a perfect comparison between these pedals (:
Thanks for the Video!! I am thinking I'll get a Vox and have a buffer mod installed.
The vox has a clean and open funky wah while the crybaby has more of a muffled almost and a very nice wah. I pefer the vox.
I use to have a Vox. Several years later I’m back looking for a wah and I’m still undecided but leading towards the Crybaby. Wonder what it would sound like to use both at the same time?
Theres two versions of the vox 847 an older version that uses a yellow fasel inductor and the newer that uses a red fasel inductor. The older one is more vintage/60's sounding wah.
The better question is which do YOU prefer?
i've owned a crybaby 535Q and i currently use a V847. (not "V847a"). The Crybaby sounds so forced and almost artificial and whiney compared to the vox. From clean to dirty to lead, the V847 sings more naturally than any other Wah I've used.
Both have great qualities, I have the John Petrucci cry baby and a Vox 847. All depends on what you are playing and personal preference.
I´ld pick the cry baby any time, the 847 has an horrifying hi-end, sounds like someone is hammering a nail into my ear :)
I've tried the both of them, i've choose the cry baby because it has more human voice sound and quack sound than the vox
Virtuoso rock guitarist Buckethead uses a Vox wah pedal with devasting results, IMHO he meets and exceeds what Hendrix accomplished - PLAYLIST with 23 examples: czcams.com/play/PLVtE11FxKtYmsoV01VntEHt-SezzIt1E3.html
Listening while running the audio through my home stereo set (giving me room acoustics with real speakers; no headphones) I can't really hear a distinct difference between the two most of the times. Except in the last bit with the pinch harmonics/flageolet tones: there seems to be just a slight "edge" or output peak with the VOX at a certain point of the pedal's position whereas this isn't noticeable to me with the Crybaby which sweeps through the frequency spectrum more evenly to my ears.
As I have an old Colorsound Wah from the 70s which might qualify for "vintage" but tends to be very bright generally and also seems to "push" the output at a certain position (thus causing some distortion for just those frequencies) - which is actually quite annoying - I'd possibly go for the Crybaby, if I were to judge from this vid.
When giving a VOX and a Crybaby a side by side try in a music store recently, though, I had the impression of the VOX being just a little bit darker and overall a bit more "pleasant". Although that one was a 845 instead of this 847. But that VOX had way more mechanical "creaking" than the Crybaby - but that might be helped with a few drops of oil at the bearings, I guess...
Box is more of the Hendrix sound, but that crybaby has some funny sounds.
Feel the groove man
i like both of them
Cry Baby makes me think of Kirk Hammett, and the Vox of Jimi Hendrix.
The cry babe seems to av more dirt. 2 Very good pedals.Good demo
Great Comparison!!
I like them both, I think the Dunlop is my favorite but I think the slightly more pronounced tone of the vox would be clearer to hear if you were playing in a band situation, what you think?
VOX all day. but its what Jimi used so Im very partial to that sound. Also the difference is way more apparent when clean.
Jesus fuckin Christ I've been listening them togheter for over a month and still didn't choose. Vox got this brighter kind of midle tones sound but cry baby got this heavy agressive thing. A mess in my head. Great video bro. I'll choose cry baby only because of Slash - favourite guitar sound.
byen8 God and Jesus Christ are scum and vermin, hope that clears things up
Have Both - Keepers !
the guitar sounds amazing