Boss GT-1000 Internal FX vs Pedals - What Sounds Better?

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  • čas přidán 10. 09. 2024

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  • @JustSomeGuy
    @JustSomeGuy Před 3 lety +29

    I have the regular GT-1000, and I think the overdrives work great, but, having the real pedal for comparison definitely helps when trying the dial in the sound. I got the Russian Big Muff, and I was able to match it pretty close in the GT-1000, but only because I could compare them. I think this may be one of those situations where you need to know the sound of the real pedal to dial it in on the GT-1000.

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  Před 3 lety +3

      Great tip.

    • @redcomn
      @redcomn Před 3 lety

      Yup i do just like this and save it on the variation setting of the od.
      Easier to recall it whenever i want it.

    • @TheDilligan
      @TheDilligan Před 3 lety +24

      Not necessarily. Because the goal is to sound good, not necessarily to sound exactly like something else. The Boss engineers' goal was to model it realistic. But If you don't have the real thing, all that matters is that you make it sounds good / to your liking.

    • @juventinos81
      @juventinos81 Před 3 lety

      @@TheDilligan 100% agree on this

  • @LeMans512
    @LeMans512 Před 3 lety +8

    Fabulous video.
    I own the Boss GT-1000 and my only complaint is that there aren’t more emulations.
    These tone are so close it doesn’t matter in a mix .
    Subscribed.

  • @ironmantran
    @ironmantran Před 3 lety +12

    i L-O-V-E your series on Boss-CORE ! !

  • @DavidJosephBoth
    @DavidJosephBoth Před rokem +3

    I didn't like the GT until i figured out to take it off "line/phones" in output. it was always running through the "original" speaker that's in the unit with no viisual indicator of a speaker in the effects chain screen, so it was coloring my sound (tonex with it's own amp and cab already). On "recording" they let you disable and bypass the speaker entirely, but on the "line/phones" setting you don't even have the option in the chain. That was seriously crazy of boss, because it wasn't self-evident and they even acknowledge it on their help section of the boss site, claiming they wanted it to replicate an entire chain basically with their idea of "correct" speaker type.

  • @gglendinningok
    @gglendinningok Před 2 lety +3

    Fantastic, helps me in my consideration of buying this, which i'm really thinking of after looking at various other units

  • @terrymack3273
    @terrymack3273 Před 3 lety +6

    Thanks Paul, this is the vid I've been waiting for! Have been dithering whether to go the multi effects route vs Pedals and you've finally sold me on the GT. BOSS need to put you on commission! Subscribed.

  • @LeMans512
    @LeMans512 Před rokem +4

    I have the GT1000 and the Nobels odr . The GT1000 has a ‘natural drive’. They are indistinguishable. Same with the ‘transparent drive’ and the Duke of Tone pedal.
    Boss is going to be fastidious about all of its simulations. The Twin Amp is just plain awesome.

    • @Liam_Doherty_UK
      @Liam_Doherty_UK Před rokem

      I’m going to connect my Noble tomorrow and check out your recommendation that the natural drive sounds the same 👍

  • @Happy-Me.
    @Happy-Me. Před 2 lety +1

    Great video Paul. Thanks for directing me to it from the Live programme! 😎

  • @moe45673
    @moe45673 Před 2 lety +4

    My two cents
    1) The Tubescreamer sounded like the EQ was a bit different. I heard more of a mid-hump in that than the digital one; however the digital one COULD be dialed in to sound identical from what I hear. So I'll put it down to "having a deadline to hit" as to the discrepancy. Having said that, it might be placebo and I might be hearing with my eyes
    2) Boss has KILLED the Big Muff modelling since way, way back. While the Tubescreamers on older devices didn't sound close to the real world thing (and thereby I would use them completely differently than I would in the real world), the BMP has always excelled.
    3) My favorite boss drive is the BD-2. So versatile and does what it says on the box. Even the BD-2w, while a bit superior, isn't worth the extra cash (IMO)

  • @lobikmoj
    @lobikmoj Před 3 lety +3

    Love my GT1k even more now. Thanks for this excellent comparison. In fact all of your videos on this pedal have helped me no end. Keep up the good work!

  • @theblowupdollsmusic
    @theblowupdollsmusic Před 3 lety +2

    Thank you for taking the time to do this. Great comparison. The boss sounds great.

  • @bluztime5271
    @bluztime5271 Před 3 lety +4

    Fantastic! I’ve been waiting for someone to do something like this, especially with trying to replicate pedals such as a KOT or one of the Dumble style pedals. It would be a great series to do. A pedal a week.

  • @maxcruz666
    @maxcruz666 Před rokem +1

    Thanks! i think the GT1000 nailed it every time ! This video has made up my mind to get it

  • @bboyzagy
    @bboyzagy Před 3 lety +2

    An amazing video showing off the GT-1000's capabilities. Another reason to buy it, if I needed any more.

  • @TrumpetsInMy4x12
    @TrumpetsInMy4x12 Před 3 lety +6

    Good vid. I wish Boss would model the actual pedal controls on the models. Every pedal has different controls. You'd think they would know this already :)

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  Před 3 lety

      That would be cool

    • @SuicideVan
      @SuicideVan Před 3 lety +1

      I'm not so sure, one of my favorite features of my Boss OD-200 was having a 3-band EQ for pedals that traditionally didn't have such level of control. TS-808 and Centaur with 3-band EQ? Sign me up.

    • @lavadoraautomatica1
      @lavadoraautomatica1 Před 2 lety

      I know I’m in the minority here since I’m a bass player and don’t play guitar. But I love the controls they offer such as clean blend which some of the models like example commonly rat pedals don’t have.

    • @lqr824
      @lqr824 Před rokem

      @@SuicideVan With software, you can have both. They should offer both the original controls, as well as a more detailed tone set. Note that Leo Fender's Stingray basses had a two-band EQ that people actually prefer to the modern three-band. Leo always knew what he was doing! More bands means they're going to have narrower frequency ranges and that's not going to sound the same.

    • @lqr824
      @lqr824 Před rokem

      @@lavadoraautomatica1 > I know I’m in the minority here since I’m a bass player and don’t play guitar.
      I'm actually playing more bass than guitar the last year and plan on using the GT with both. (And with some of my keys.)

  • @portuguesebeer5069
    @portuguesebeer5069 Před 3 lety +3

    Awesome tones!
    Cheers from Portugal 🍺🤘🇵🇹

  • @joshneel1107
    @joshneel1107 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Awesome comparison

  • @m8mstudio
    @m8mstudio Před 3 lety +2

    Nice work ! Thanx ! Totally agree with you

  • @TheDilligan
    @TheDilligan Před 3 lety +1

    Great video. I think you did this in perfect way.
    You set up your test. You showed us what you had to do to dial in the settings. And I like how you would switch up which one you would demo first so that we don't trick ourselves into thinking something like "the second always sounds better".
    Not a lot of talking and BSing either.
    Good Job.

  • @bcjaliu
    @bcjaliu Před 3 lety +3

    I’m blown away mate. Great demo, and the BOSS sounds Superb! I think I may have to get the Core!

  • @TheDilligan
    @TheDilligan Před 3 lety +6

    I compared it with a TS9, BD-2, and Big Muff last night.
    Tube Screamer is spot on. It responds a little differently to more delicate articulations in your playing. But the sound is basically the same. But I do have a hunch he GT is going for an 808, not a ts9.
    BD-2 is practically spot on. The real BD-2 is more responsive than most pedals, so that becomes really difficult to capture. But overall it's very good - especially in terms of the BD-2's higher gain settings.
    The Big Muff is the problem for me.
    The Big Muff model isn't as scooped as the real thing. That's why you ended up needing to boost both the tone and the bottom.
    And no matter what, I can't seem to reproduce the sparkly highs that are on the real thing. In a mix it doesn't matter much. But inperson it makes the big muff pretty satisfying.
    The other thing is that every big muff model is less accurate at low gain settings. The GT1000 is the most accurate one I've played. But if you go below 40, it loses the high end and becomes smoother and more rounded - almost like a tube screamer. But, like the real thing, at low gain it is more dynamic and crunchy. I typically play with my big muff's sustain at 0 to 2 for this sound.

  • @jst601
    @jst601 Před 2 lety +9

    Would love to hear this unit's fx only. And then it's reverb, delay, chorus, flanger, etc run in the fx loop of the IR 200. Update: I bought one from Sweetwater while on sale for $599.99 USD 1st week of September 2022. I'm about to find out how good the fx are.

  • @joaquincuervo6943
    @joaquincuervo6943 Před 3 lety +2

    Great job as always, Paul! Through my studio monitors via youtube, the comparisons sound very similar. In all cases I preferred the GT1000 versions.

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  Před 3 lety +2

      Hey Jack, the GT1000 does have some great old tones.

    • @joaquincuervo6943
      @joaquincuervo6943 Před 3 lety

      @@TheStudioRats -- You're up early :-)

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  Před 3 lety +3

      It shows I’m up early in the mistake on my comment. Sorry I meant to say “great OD tones”

  • @axslinger99
    @axslinger99 Před 2 lety

    I'm running from my laptop to Yamaha studio monitors. To me, there were only slight differences but I believe it was a matter of EQ. I have the GT-1000 Core and love it. This latest generation of modelers has hit a new high. Many more usable sounds. It used to be the presets in a modeler were, "over the top" and bordering on unusable. The presets on the GT-1000 are all usable with some tweaking for your set-up. I happen to bypass the front-end of my amp and go in through the return and I get a much truer sound that more closely matches going through a power amp and then into studio monitors.

  • @wohnzimmergrooves7814
    @wohnzimmergrooves7814 Před 3 lety +1

    Hi Paul, to create a little better comparison it would be helpful to bring the FXLOOP and the FX behing one DIV-Point and switch them by foot-controlswitch. So you can switch while playing (and without a break and talking - because the ears cannot remember a sound with such minor nuances for very long).
    As a Boss GT1000Core-User i love these vids which show how to get even closer to the original sound (without having this device).
    thx

  • @headkickko609
    @headkickko609 Před rokem

    I bought my regular GT1000 for FX and switching with my Mesa TC50, now I mainly use the green channel on the TC with all sorts of dirt infront of the preamp section from the GT1000.... It's a killer.

  • @n0rdl3
    @n0rdl3 Před 3 lety +3

    Good vid . I’ve just done a similar comparison with the compact muff and mxr 98 custom badass against Kat and HXFX . For some reason I want the external pedals to sound better but for a hack like me there is virtually nothing in it. Horses for courses I guess but digital is starting to rule .

  • @russwsoper
    @russwsoper Před 2 lety +3

    I've been wondering the same, but for non-overdrive / distortion effects, such as reverbs, delays, modulation, wah, octave, etc. I love the overdrive I get out of my Marshalls, but would love the simplicity of a single floor unit for all effects and avoid all little separate pedals - but digital mult-FX units like the GT1000 tend to sound best through studio monitors or direct into a PA, as opposed to running into a guitar amp.

    • @cuttingedge1987
      @cuttingedge1987 Před rokem

      That"s what I'm testing out right not, works good if you need to plug it in directly to your interface, but I find hard to make it sound good into an amp or even a k7 recorder.

  • @robertturner6493
    @robertturner6493 Před rokem

    It seems like if you take the time to really dial in the GT-1000, you can get close enough to the original sound where most audiences won't notice. Having said that, the original pedals feel better when I listen on better headphones. For example, the Tube Screamer had a richer/fuller body especially in the lower end and the highs weren't as harsh (not that the GT-1000 was harsh) but seems like you could add a some bottom and fix that. Personally, I've always felt Multi-FX were great because of their mod/delay/reverb/weird fun tone stuff and less because they had great distortion/drive pedals.
    Having said that, these are some of the better emulations I've heard from a multi-fx, thank you so much for doing this vid!

  • @nickg2431
    @nickg2431 Před 3 lety +1

    Very good set of informative videos ,nicely played and recorded.I have always felt that the "real" pedals i use with my Atomic Amplifire have more definition, touch sensitivity and are easier to adjust in the real world in real time- I also have a germanium treble booster -they seem to be the toughest to recreate as they add stacks of headroom -thats my experience other folks may be happy and other modellers may be better in that respect.

  • @ricardoleao_music
    @ricardoleao_music Před rokem +2

    They sound pretty similar to me. Great jog. I'd love to see some comparisons on reverbs, delays and modulations.

  • @Johnny-oy9fh
    @Johnny-oy9fh Před 3 lety +3

    GT1000 wins hands down....yet again!!!! 😎👍🎸

  • @Lateralus800
    @Lateralus800 Před 3 měsíci

    Hi Paul. I'm definitely late to this party, but can you make boss me 90 internal fx vs pedals?

  • @killerssoundstudiotimkille8387

    Nice! I did a 8string Metal tune with the boss...sounds killer🤘

  • @MarioTorre
    @MarioTorre Před 5 měsíci +1

    So the thing to do is to buy a bunch of broken but rare vintage pedals put them in the pedal board, pretend to control them with a midi switcher, then have a gt1k on the back of the stage doing the actual work 😁

  • @kingrjlegaspi1137
    @kingrjlegaspi1137 Před 3 lety +1

    The Gt1000 Core. 🤩🤩🤩

  • @dddocmusic
    @dddocmusic Před 2 lety +1

    Hi I'm intrested in getting this pedal so I've been watching loads of videos. I like this one but what I can't find is a video about ""all"" the other fx like chorus, Flanger etc and how they stack up too the pedals or just a video about those pedals... thanks.

  • @MrKornea
    @MrKornea Před 3 lety +4

    Honestly, with headphones, it's quite impossible to hear a difference between real pedals and the sim

  • @MrPomegranate0
    @MrPomegranate0 Před 2 lety

    Running a EHX Super Switcher. Trying to figure out how to intgrate GT-1000 Core....HELP!

  • @pitbullrp
    @pitbullrp Před 3 lety

    Thanks! Great Info. Are you running into the Main Amp input? What is your output settings on the GT1000?

  • @SevenTausend
    @SevenTausend Před měsícem

    Super!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @elfiemontague3936
    @elfiemontague3936 Před rokem

    Never heard a tube screamer sound like that before. Do I crank the valve's thk

  • @mikevanleeuwen2858
    @mikevanleeuwen2858 Před 3 lety +1

    great man. Realy nice unit. Please could you make a video of the gt 1000 core into the poer amp in of the boss katana. Would it make the katana even more better ? (amp sounds ?) I think many people ould like a video gt 1000 -katana power amp in Thanks , Mike

  • @divyeshkaria5618
    @divyeshkaria5618 Před rokem +1

    IMO the pedals were more organic but an effects processor does remove the hassle of tap dancing. Great Video

  • @TheStrataminor
    @TheStrataminor Před 9 měsíci

    What delay and reverb is he using at the 3:40 mark...sounds awesome!

  • @eng2005
    @eng2005 Před rokem

    Thanks for the video!! Why you don´t try this test with a clean amp in the gt1000 ?

  • @koolbreeze8698
    @koolbreeze8698 Před 3 lety +1

    I sold my Fractal FX8 and Ax8 when I got my Boss GT-1000

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  Před 3 lety +1

      Great! The more I use it the more I love it.

    • @mobizoid8261
      @mobizoid8261 Před 3 lety +1

      Ya I got rid of my FX 2XL and bought a GT-1000 many moons ago....so much better IMHO...less fuckin around

  • @martinopinto6323
    @martinopinto6323 Před 3 lety +1

    Gt1000 is crazy!

  • @rafito1280
    @rafito1280 Před 2 lety

    I think that the GT 1000 excels in the amp sim behavior. The effects are better than Line 6 just not that many of them. The centaur emulation is amazing.

  • @PainterDans
    @PainterDans Před rokem +1

    I got a Gt core to put on my pedal board for loop effects and quickly realized I could replace my drive pedals with the GT versions as well, cause honestly it was so close. I did not expect that. So I can use a nano pedalboard now with just a GT Core, a wireless and a mini wah pedal.

  • @gilbertepoy8223
    @gilbertepoy8223 Před rokem

    Sounds awesome as always! Can i ask for some tips.. using GTcore in front of a Fender amp. What pedals to use or EQ settings to achieve that clean and drive sounds when you use your PRS DGT.. Im also using ang H-H setup on my guitar.. Thanks A lot!

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  Před rokem

      Hi Gilbert, unfortunately that’s going to be tough as I don’t know what tone you are going for. I would say make sure your speaker block in the GT is off if you are plugged into an amp.

    • @josetheguitarist29
      @josetheguitarist29 Před 7 měsíci

      @@TheStudioRats how do you shut off the speaker cab?

  • @cyanwitch2708
    @cyanwitch2708 Před 3 lety

    Why not just go direct? I mean how many ave a rev and expander?

  • @davidwoods358
    @davidwoods358 Před 3 lety +3

    I hear no reason at all to be dragging around extra pedals with the GT-1000. As good or better than, IMO.

  • @LysanderLH
    @LysanderLH Před 3 lety +1

    Point 1. Don’t need a PC to change parameters on pedals.

  • @lucalorenzetti9905
    @lucalorenzetti9905 Před 3 lety

    Hi Paul,
    do you think the GT 100 is still valid, I have heard some samples and I do not mind at all, I know it is a bit old but my wallet is crying, I would like your opinion as you are very good.

  • @ShaighJosephson
    @ShaighJosephson Před 10 měsíci +1

    The effects are pretty generic and the delay times are way too short...but other than that, it's the biggest bang for the buck with all the features packed into it...

  • @clanyongco2908
    @clanyongco2908 Před 3 lety

    Paul can you make a comparison with the boss gtk and klon centaur?

  • @scottd291
    @scottd291 Před 3 lety

    i would like to see a fuzz face

  • @mimimmimmimim
    @mimimmimmimim Před 7 měsíci

    I think u2b really messes up the experience normalising and compressing the audio. So sad all that effort gone bad.

  • @RockG.o.d
    @RockG.o.d Před 2 lety

    ok, you just sold another boss gt 1000. replacing a hd 500x

  • @jasoncorganbrown
    @jasoncorganbrown Před 2 lety +1

    The real big muff has a more open and dynamic sound, but in a rock mix with mastering, I don’t think that difference would be apparent.

  • @Haelmuscle
    @Haelmuscle Před 3 lety

    I thank you a lot for such a nice informative and helpful video, what a great ear and skill, you're dialing the tones so fast!
    My honest opinion, first impressions were like this pedal sound identical to the original pedals, after a bit of listening to the details of the two, no more multi-effects for me and I'm buying real pedals ASAP,
    Example of how digital this gt1000 listen to 2nd Riff on TubeScreamer comparison, palm muting sounds bad on the GT1000

  • @alexanderjosephross
    @alexanderjosephross Před 3 lety +1

    Sounds begin 2:23

  • @zaporoshti3392
    @zaporoshti3392 Před 3 lety +15

    the sounds are better than helix definitely.

    • @SuicideVan
      @SuicideVan Před 3 lety +1

      As a former HX Stomp owner and current Core owner, the Core is in a class of it's own. I was looking for a streamlined 4cm solution to pedal boards and the Stomp, fx block limitations aside, robbed volume and high end from my signal.
      I did some A/B switching with the Core and simply couldn't tell any difference with the output filters set to the correct type of amp inputs.

    • @zaporoshti3392
      @zaporoshti3392 Před 3 lety

      @@SuicideVan So I guess you think Boss is much better than Helix too?

    • @SuicideVan
      @SuicideVan Před 3 lety +2

      @@zaporoshti3392 for 4cm use with an amp it's not even a fair comparison. Boss hands down.
      I will say the Helix sounded great through headphones and with a powered FRFR speaker. I can see why they are so popular with church bands and players going direct into the PA or recording interface. Combine that with a friendly and eye pleasing UI and I can see why some would prefer the Helix line.

    • @zaporoshti3392
      @zaporoshti3392 Před 3 lety

      @@SuicideVan you can get a really good church organ sound (using an electric guitar of course) with pitch and overtone boss effects on boss processors.

    • @justinTime077
      @justinTime077 Před 3 lety

      Hell to the yes. People sucking L6’s teets don’t know what they’re doing to themselves. That shit sounds like a battered asshole. What kind of unique turd gobbler prefers to play through headphones? If that’s you then yeah-L6 is fine.

  • @sixfoursoul2538
    @sixfoursoul2538 Před 3 lety +2

    Nothing as is good as pedals, but these processors are getting close

  • @gcvrsa
    @gcvrsa Před 3 lety +5

    TBPH, I couldn't care less how well a GT-1000 can emulate a Big Muff. Digital distortions are in general terrible. What I want to know is, how well does the GT-1000Core do with Boss' own effects, including Boss digital overdrives like the OD-1X and BB-1X, but most importantly, how the Core compares to the RV-500/DD-500/MD-500, and the CP-1X/BC-1X.

    • @No-mart
      @No-mart Před 3 lety

      You obviously haven’t played through a GT.

    • @lqr824
      @lqr824 Před rokem

      No particular reason they need to be horrible. I'll agree that in the past they WERE all horrible but as a synth software author, things have advanced a lot in the last 20 years both in terms of CPU/etc., as well as in terms of algos and approaches. Simulation has gone from a rough mathematical model of how a pedal might be assumed to work, to simulating it at the component level.

  • @elktones7878
    @elktones7878 Před 2 lety

    External over drives have their own flavor; front, back end, attack, tail, etc…. Boss GT 1000 fx’s are quite generalized/modeling type sounds. Not original. There is a gig difference. I have the drummer, guitarist, sound engineer gift.

    • @lqr824
      @lqr824 Před rokem +1

      Modelling can be pretty freaking exact. They can look at a tone component and get the EXACT frequency response of that in software, and so on. Just because the names are generic for legal reasons, some of the sims may well be a very specific piece of hardware. Others may not be. Still: there's no particular reason a sim that's not targeting an exact piece of hardware can't sound better than the actual hardware. For instance there's what, 6 pre-CBS blackface amps? Maybe something on the GT sounds somewhere between Deluxe and Princeton and sounds better for a given player and their song than the amps Fender actually made.

  • @lymariejohnson391
    @lymariejohnson391 Před 3 lety

    These effects board are utter junk to a real valve amp with a kick ass distortion pedal threw the clean chanel cranked. They are waist of money.

    • @ramon2008
      @ramon2008 Před 2 lety

      For like 1/10th of the price I’ll take the boards. They may not sound exactly like the real thing but I’m not a tone snob just looking to jam in my bedroom or with other people. I’ll stick
      With this

    • @garrisongrouse
      @garrisongrouse Před 2 lety

      Spend some time with one of these GT 1000 and compare for your self. You words are empty unless you can prove it with evidence. These new gen modelers are in different league from modelers that came out even 6 years ago.