BEST New Compact Couple's Fifth Wheel!! 2023 Cougar 23MLE

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  • New 2023 Keystone "Cougar Half Ton" series 23MLE Couple's Camping Fifth Wheel RV with IDEAL Travel Features!!
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    Cougar has FINALLY nailed a fifth wheel under 30ft with good traveling access.. and man.. DID THEY NAIL IT!
    They basically took their popular 22MLS travel trailer and adopted it to a fifth wheel creating a stellar traveler's option as a result! The RV features good window coverage (including on the camp site) and a host of plush creature comfort features all under 28ft total!!
    ♦ Weights & Measures ♦
    Hitch 1200lb
    Empty 7480
    Cargo 2510
    GVWR 9990
    Length 27'1"
    Height 12'0"
    Tires Goodyear
    Fresh 54gal
    Gray 30+30
    Black 30 gal
    Here's a few other shorter fifth wheels you may also enjoy!
    ► Rockwood 2245WS: bit.ly/30F4h5v
    ► Eagle 24RE: bit.ly/3q4Tv1f
    ► Cougar 24RDS: bit.ly/3E7VuHb
    ► Rockwood 2442BS: bit.ly/3RSkXMG
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    00:00 RV Introduction
    02:26 Stepping Inside
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  • @tchrof6th
    @tchrof6th Před rokem +32

    Love that they moved the fridge to the slide so you can get to it in travel! It’s traveltastic!!!

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  Před rokem +3

      Key detail for sure

    • @michaelskvarek6857
      @michaelskvarek6857 Před rokem +1

      My fridge in the slide has a hard time staying cool. if it was in the back wall it would be better. But, I have travelled mainly out West where it is a tad bit warmer...

    • @Tom-Fisherman
      @Tom-Fisherman Před rokem

      12v is far less affected by summer heat.

  • @GaryBrownrigg
    @GaryBrownrigg Před rokem +17

    That has got to be THE perfect small couples trailer!

  • @gerdriechers8426
    @gerdriechers8426 Před rokem +5

    A meal is at the table with everyone sitting down. It is a part of culture!

  • @genericwatcher2439
    @genericwatcher2439 Před rokem +24

    MSRP $60,540!!!! I am soooo glad I bought my RV at the beginning of 2020 before the prices skyrocketed. If prices don't come back to earth, I will probably be done camping when my current camper wears out. My paycheck has not kept up with inflation. Thanks for the video, I might not have the $, but I still enjoy looking, this is a very nice layout.

    • @mrjack8849
      @mrjack8849 Před rokem

      What was the prices like when you bought a yours a few years ago?

    • @genericwatcher2439
      @genericwatcher2439 Před rokem +1

      @@mrjack8849 $17,999, HOWEVER I scoured the internet, found a dealership going out of business and traveled 1500 miles to get there, BUT, for most people, at at that time, the average cost of travel campers was around $25,000 and fifth wheels where in the upper $30's.

    • @JustinG9698
      @JustinG9698 Před rokem +3

      You can find trailers in that price range now. The big thing is do you want a budget trailer that doesn’t have some extra features and may not last as long or do you want to spend the extra money for build quality and features like 0 to 110 degree rating, standard Solar, auto leveling, ect.
      It all boils down to what you want and how you plan to use your rv.

    • @JohnHansknecht
      @JohnHansknecht Před rokem +2

      MSRP 60k, so probably sells for $40K and will be worth $20K in three or four years. You can certainly pick one up then that has been gently used.

    • @mwb6772
      @mwb6772 Před rokem +1

      @@JohnHansknecht It will be worth 20k when you drive it off the lot. Just saying.

  • @danj9094
    @danj9094 Před rokem +17

    This is absolutely the ideal fifth wheel that me and my wife have been waiting for. The length is perfect, not too long, not too heavy. We plan to pull it w/ an F250. It has a dinette w/ theatre chairs, perfect. Love the rear kitchen, great design, plenty of cabinets, larger fridge option, and lots of countertop space. The functionality of the rv when slides are closed is flawless. The only thing that I would change is that I need a full size queen. The rv size queen is just too short for my 6'1" height. That is the first thing I changed on my current rv. I don't want a free standing table and chairs. I hope our rv show in Salt Lake has one of these to look at this month. I suspect this design will be EXTREMELY popular and copied by everyone. Really love that the rv industry has the ability to make modifications quickly based on input from owners. Cougar did everything right on this one.
    Thanks to Josh for putting together the best rv videos on the internet.

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  Před rokem +1

      Wow thank you for the kind words!!

    • @cristyrobertson9165
      @cristyrobertson9165 Před 11 měsíci

      Agree love this, but that RV Queen bed. Husbands 6’3 and that bed won’t work.

  • @duaneboyce6720
    @duaneboyce6720 Před rokem +68

    I like the idea of deleting the table and adding a fire place with a televator. They could just continue the counter top along that wall. Residential queen needs to be standard in a 5th wheel.

    • @randycole1007
      @randycole1007 Před rokem

      Where did I miss that this is not a residential queen bed?

    • @duaneboyce6720
      @duaneboyce6720 Před rokem +1

      @@randycole1007 it was listed as a con at the beginning of the video i believe.

    • @mtmartianesq
      @mtmartianesq Před rokem +6

      I agree with ditching the table and replacing with a desk/counter, but leave TV mounted to utilize the counter space like a desk. Maybe incorporate a slide out desk/table above a smaller fire place, between two cupboards, one with drawers. Saw something like that in another RV video. Two of those folding dining chairs would be nice as well. Maybe asking too much. Lol

    • @johnritze9960
      @johnritze9960 Před rokem +6

      What about a reverse televator? Then the TV would be more at eye level.

    • @Sammy.goNavy70
      @Sammy.goNavy70 Před rokem +6

      Most people don’t eat at the table!
      So, I like the idea of ditching the dinner table as an option for a fireplaces with a televator ( I mean a large TV not the standard 32” I see in some of the small campers) I like to travel cross country, and enjoy watching TV on a large screen from my couch at the end of the day! It doesn’t have to be a televator. It seems hard to find large TV in a smaller campers (less than 30’). I guess a girl can just dream! Just kicks back enjoying the games with some wines. I’m keeping looking for that special campers! I have time before I retired! 😅

  • @donaldknight3634
    @donaldknight3634 Před rokem +13

    I love everything about this RV. Dinette, theatre seating, size, color scheme, bathroom, and bedroom. The only thing missing for me is the window up front over the bed where you can see the stars while you lay in bed

    • @debraewing2859
      @debraewing2859 Před rokem

      Love stars. Don't love the cold let in by a window near my head.

    • @Tom-Fisherman
      @Tom-Fisherman Před rokem

      Leaks make a fwd window a nogo for us! Far too many issues and leaks!

  • @christinehooks8873
    @christinehooks8873 Před rokem +4

    Beautiful. I love the kitchen, it has plenty of room. The bathroom is great. I also love the bedroom. I would not change anything. You have done a great video. You are great 👍

  • @Damethefirst
    @Damethefirst Před rokem +5

    I love it too…….checks ALL the boxes…….

  • @sunshynegirl7429
    @sunshynegirl7429 Před rokem +5

    I like the idea of having a bench and chairs hybrid dining table. Or having more counter top and cabinets with a breakfast bar.
    As someone who full-times in an RV more storage and flexible space is great!
    Though the desk idea is nice too…🧐

  • @mikebidlack839
    @mikebidlack839 Před rokem +7

    Man this is gonna be one I want to come see! I wish it would have a convection microwave though! Those are sooooo much nicer then having to heat the camper up with the oven! The solar upgrades are AWSOME! We looked at a Cougar Half-Ton before we bought our Jayco HT and honestly the reason we didnt was the sales person! This may be our next camper when it all gets finalized and into production! Thats for showing it as alwas ajosh!

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  Před rokem +1

      Not sure where you were shopping but I'm sorry you had that kind of experience.
      Sometimes people visit my home store and say "Josh you're the reason we bought here!" and I politely disagree. I might be the reason they called the first time, but our _team working together_ is the reason they chose our door step instead of someone else's

    • @lisaturner4741
      @lisaturner4741 Před rokem

      Live in Washington. State and I can say I would buy from Bish's because I trust YOU! 😊

  • @HugsXO
    @HugsXO Před rokem +8

    We have a Cougar 30RLS (last one off the line) and we love it. This is a little smaller but it has almost all that we love about ours. Night shade in the door is great, having it go from bottom to top is better. The kitchen works really well. I would take the knee knocker table & booth out and go with a table and chairs. Or better yet a table top that could be turned 90° and you could use for a desk/meals/buffet. It is missing a fireplace. We laughed about a FP in a RV but having it is comforting. Especially when you drive across country from San Diego to Coldwater in December to pickup your new RV. 🏖💓💓💓💓🏄‍♀️

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  Před rokem

      As soon as you said "the last one off the line" i knew exactly who this was!

  • @cindylieser3123
    @cindylieser3123 Před rokem +33

    I am absolutely in love with this layout. It is almost perfect for what my husband and I have been looking for. I would get rid of the dinette booth and replace it with table/chairs or something with extended counter space with fireplace. Also I read someone’s else’s comment about maybe moving the sink so there was more counter space next to the stove/oven. I agree, like maybe have the sink on the camp side (not a corner sink)and the counter space on the rear side. Idk, just a thought not sure if that could be done or not. I still love the rear kitchen either way. I think the bedroom needs another window either above the bed or maybe in the closet slide. Have 2 drawers instead of 3 and maybe stick the 3rd drawer in the closet somehow and place a little window above the 2 drawers. Also no carpet in the bedroom. Love that it has an outdoor refrigerator and place for griddle. We have a outside fridge now absolutely love it and it is a must for our next rig and it is hard to find a smaller floor plan with one. Would not change that area a bit. I do wish it had a longer awning not sure if one would work, would be nice however. When are they going to production with this model? My husband and I are shopping right now for a new rig and now seeing your video maybe we can hold off until they start production. Would love to check this model out. Thank you Josh for all that you do, been watching you for quite sometime now (almost 5 years), you’re my go too guy about RV’s. Thanks again and Happy Camping. Keep up the great work!

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  Před rokem +4

      I think this model will be rolling out just about any day. They're super excited about this one and so am I.
      We're both predicting it'll be their #1 FW next season

    • @cindylieser3123
      @cindylieser3123 Před rokem +1

      That’s awesome, look forward to seeing it. Thanks for the reply.

    • @kathygospodarek8541
      @kathygospodarek8541 Před rokem

      This is what we are looking for. Going back to camping and are in the process of research. You are my go to mr josh.

    • @RobertHawk
      @RobertHawk Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@kathygospodarek8541I bought my first RV from BISH's because of JOSH. I will buy my next RV from BISH's because of how they treated me after the sale.

  • @gregtroublemaker1862
    @gregtroublemaker1862 Před rokem +9

    I love to watch your videos Josh, whether I'm interested in the unit you're showing or not. You're zani sense of humor is so entertaining. I agree with you and your assessment of this 5th wheel, it's gonna be a home run for Cougar and their constant stride for innovations 💡

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  Před rokem

      Ty

    • @ShawnyOdeen
      @ShawnyOdeen Před rokem +1

      The outdoor grill door would be a waste of storage space for me as I never want to grill so close to my unit

  • @marginbuu212
    @marginbuu212 Před rokem +5

    Did someone say desk space option? Yes, please! Loving the new color scheme and the fact that they fixed the road access to the upper deck.

  • @ArmyLPNurse1
    @ArmyLPNurse1 Před rokem +2

    OMGosh @Cougar!! You're ALMOST THERE!!😍😍😍 I'm getting ready for work but I WILL be back later tonight to chime in with my dreams to make this perfect! WOW! Excited about this one @Josh!

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  Před rokem

      This one's such a monster. Hope you like it! :)

  • @wingiewingie2420
    @wingiewingie2420 Před rokem +3

    OMG that rig is awesome!!!! Theatre seats & true queen bed for me!!!!!! The idea of the TVlevator would make this a killer!! I'm definitely getting a bigger truck 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
    Thanks Josh!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @masonwolber9917
    @masonwolber9917 Před rokem +8

    I'm typically not fan of 5th wheels, but this one may of changed my mind. I would love to see a larger awning extend over the outside kitchen, and a fireplace under the coffee station. I'd also like to see the shower reversed (seat on the right side). I love the pantry, all the windows, and that the frig is on the slide.

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  Před rokem +2

      TY for the ideas! Fireplace under the coffee station is something I thought about too

    • @joeychapman5674
      @joeychapman5674 Před rokem

      Move the outside kitchen over just enough to put a longer awning on..

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  Před rokem

      @@joeychapman5674 I wonder what space might be available under that kitchen counter to do that..
      The team designing cougars right now is pretty crafty and usually gets things like that done if possible but now and then everyone can use an outside pair of eyes!

  • @jeffhattem5892
    @jeffhattem5892 Před rokem +2

    Hi Josh,
    - Get rid of carpet in the bedroom, need a full queen, ok with everything else there.
    - Prefer a one piece shower
    - Remove the booth dinette and I like some of the other comments about the televator and fireplace in that space.
    - I'd do the sleeper sofa and you could have a folding table that stores behind or underneath it
    - No carpet in the garage
    - Love the on demand water, 12v fridge, under 30', kitchen layout
    - The solar in that config would interfere with the 2nd a/c option, but I'm sure they would adjust it
    - I agree with the comment of leaving that outside under cabinet space as storage. Great place for portable gas or charcoal grill and coals. also like the garbage can comment for there although it might be a little big for that. The great point is that they recognize that is dead space from the inside and are looking for solutions!

  • @leonardnelson7596
    @leonardnelson7596 Před rokem +4

    Hey Uncle Josh hope you're having a great Monday . I loved the Cougar 22mls but this n eww Cougar 23MlE is amazing. The setup is awesome with the road mode access is amazing ,the space an storage they hit it out of the park. The bathroom space is great an spacious. The bedroom is amazing with the space. I really love that it comes with the blackout shade in the door, I hope they do turn it around so it pulls up from the bottom that way you can still have it pulled up some but no one can see in. I really like the outside storage an hope that they do put the plastic little tips where the carpet is. The outside camp kitchen is great. Keystone really not it out of the park with this Cougar. Thank you Uncle Josh for showing us this new unit, and giving us the specs an information on this new Cougar. Your friend an number one fan Leonard Nelson from NC.

  • @ineedhelpgodgodforgiveme1615

    The interior is beautiful 😍

  • @ricks3184
    @ricks3184 Před rokem +4

    Wish they offered more than than 30gal gray for the bath. It’s nice to be able to go for an extended stay where you don’t have sewer hook ups and not have to take one of those portable tanks.

  • @PittsWithAPurpose
    @PittsWithAPurpose Před rokem +3

    This is the size that my husband and I want, but I need a work space, and we need a place to put kitty litter. We don’t want to get larger, but need those things. So many of us travel with cats.

  • @mikebidlack839
    @mikebidlack839 Před rokem +3

    Oh and before I forget.....a FULL QUESS would be a great addition as well!

  • @marjmark4173
    @marjmark4173 Před rokem +3

    This is the IDEAL floorplan! Hubby and I are planning to be snowbirds in the next couple of years and this floorplan ticks all of out boxes!! So excited to be able to access the entire trailer in "Road Mode". We prefer to have it exactly as shown. When the kids come to visit (because I know a free place to stay somewhere warm is a 👍) ,not only will the dinette become sleeping space but there is still plenty of room for a blow-up mattress on the floor. Our pick-up has the max towing package and can handle this baby NO PROBLEMO!!!!!!

  • @randybeach9907
    @randybeach9907 Před rokem +4

    Owning a 22mls , I like it Josh , it’s going to be hard not to pull the trigger on this , once they get the final touch’s on it as you mentioned !
    I’m liking what keystone has done and thank them for listening to us and the 22mls club with Bill Wano !
    I just hope that I could still be in this great group if I went this way !
    Time will tell !
    Keep up the great work Josh !

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  Před rokem +2

      Bill has done an AMAZING job running that group!!

  • @danielp.621
    @danielp.621 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Josh. Great camper! If I was to change a few things , 1 would be a residential queen bed. 2 the dinette bench closest to the counter a door on the end for quick access. 3 a shelf under the dinette closest to the door ( keeping the shoe garage) . Lastly, beefing up the dinette seating (removing the 2 center supports) to be able to place larger items underneath the the two seats. Thanks for all your videos.

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  Před 10 měsíci

      I love all those ideas. TY for watching!

  • @danielbrewer7021
    @danielbrewer7021 Před rokem +2

    Table and Chairs for sure. Televator for TV would be nice. Theatre Seat is a must-have. Double Solar on the roof and 12v fridge.

  • @user-kk8rg8ew5g
    @user-kk8rg8ew5g Před rokem +3

    I love It I would like a free standing table. I love all the counter space. And lots of cabinet space. Great design.

  • @TomsTechHouse
    @TomsTechHouse Před rokem +5

    Thumbs up to Cougar! I alway watch the couple camper space because it fits my needs. the shorter length also puts less stress on both the truck and the driver. The rear kitchen with all that counter space is a big winner. As for the eating space I'm of two or maybe three minds lol. I would use to space more as a work space, setting up a computer work station. But i'm not sure I want cougar to provided a desk space for me. I think workspace is just to personal and don't believe they would produce a desk space a lot of people would be happy with. I think I would like the eating space with the one bench by the door, and chairs for the side by the kitchen. Now one of my strange suggestions. There is a lot of wasted space above the pantry and coffee station. The cabinets and pantry do not go all the way to the top. How about a ledge or rail on top that you could hook a ladder to for easy access to that space. they could even remove the exterior ladder and provide a collapsable ladder to us in either place. I don't think the space above the pantry would need to be accessed often, but it make a great place for routers, wifi, cellular, and other network items.

    • @sgardner4156
      @sgardner4156 Před rokem

      Great idea on the hybrid dinette bench + chairs!!

  • @bradleybrown2417
    @bradleybrown2417 Před rokem +2

    I'm delivering one tomorrow, at Aloha, OR. This trailer pulls like a dream.

  • @theresawaite408
    @theresawaite408 Před rokem +2

    We have a 2021 Cougar 23 MLS fifth wheel that is similar to this. We love are very pleased with our fifth wheel but, this has an even better floor plan. Someone was definitely thinking with this one.

  • @karenhagstrom1505
    @karenhagstrom1505 Před rokem +3

    I would like booth dinette, gas/12v fridge. Make awning go all the way to the end so you are covered when grilling. Also like the closet in the slide out. Love this layout

  • @christyeaton6371
    @christyeaton6371 Před rokem +3

    Hi Josh I love the look of this 5th Wheel the color decor is perfect for solo female having the light bright open feel in kitchen is awsome not to mention the smaller size Trailer. Thank you again

  • @carolmitchell3776
    @carolmitchell3776 Před rokem +1

    If they could move that outside kitchen over under the window more, I bet they could extend that awning to the end of the RV. I love the outside kitchen but hate to cook so close to the RV so the first thing I would do is see if the structure for the griddle could be easily removed to put in a larger refrigerator. We have been looking for something under 30 ft for retirement travelling and options with door side windows have been few in fifth wheels so I was tentatively also looking at TTs. This is the closest I have seen to what we are looking for with the DS window over the dinette and with 100% road-mode access. The option for table and chairs would be my choice so then I could rip them out easily and put anything I want in that space. Maybe by the time we are ready to buy in a few years, they will make some more improvements to the floor plan. I am really liking this one!

  • @julied1158
    @julied1158 Před rokem +2

    Definitely prefer a booth. Always love an extra bed for guest 🛏️

  • @slyzuhRS
    @slyzuhRS Před rokem +3

    Very good layout and design in such a small package. It’s nice to see a company put in a place to put shoes because even in these 150k monsters don’t even have that. We had one in our old 290bh passport.

  • @melissablanchard4281
    @melissablanchard4281 Před rokem +3

    Love this. Few ideas drawers under dinette bench. No side "closet" on each side of bed.

  • @randybeach9907
    @randybeach9907 Před rokem +1

    Bingo , just like our 22mls tow behind , I like the dinette as it also sleeps a person or two depending on their size. But just something I like. Fireplace would be nice for some people but I like the idea of options for ordering !
    Great job keystone in listening !
    And ohh yes the outdoor kitchen , jackpot

  • @joelguzman9068
    @joelguzman9068 Před rokem +2

    Extraordinaria, excelente diseño, ergonomico y que agradable la distribucion de sus espacios.

  • @henryfam58
    @henryfam58 Před rokem +3

    I kept looking and looking and looking for a deal breaker, There ain't none. Awesome unit, I want one.

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  Před rokem

      When you go actively looking for trouble and can't find it.. that's high praise!

  • @gliderider7077
    @gliderider7077 Před rokem +3

    Love the desk option

  • @Tom-Fisherman
    @Tom-Fisherman Před rokem +1

    I agree about the fireplace under the coffee place! It was the very first cringe I had. Second was very little window views small and low. Third was the lack of fresh water capacity. And 4th…no washer/dryer. After all, it’s for couples!

  • @vincesteward8798
    @vincesteward8798 Před rokem +1

    We have a 2022 22MLS. I tow comfortably with my 1/2 ton. I love this model and would definitely consider it when the time comes to replace our current. I would outfit just as shown with theater seats and dinette, theater seats are hella comfortable and use dinette as a small bed for grandkids. Cougar is exceptionally quality trailer, we are very happy with ours.

  • @CC-fx4nn
    @CC-fx4nn Před rokem +5

    Your right, it's a lot like the 22MLS, but I think it is better! Love the kitchen layout, and the fact they moved the bathroom upstairs. Much better exterior storage as well. I also like the fact they moved the upstairs access so you can shut the slide and not block off the upstairs.
    I did not see any form of Fantastic Fan on this model, which is a must for me. Also would like to see wet bolts on the suspension as well if they are not already adding them.
    Keep up the good work!

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  Před rokem +2

      XL fan could be put on the bath vent
      Standard in kitchens for big cat full cougars

  • @susanoakford404
    @susanoakford404 Před rokem +4

    How about take the booth out and put a table heights bar in a couple chairs

  • @jenniferholmes5218
    @jenniferholmes5218 Před rokem +2

    I love this layout!!! Someone mentioned putting the sink on the other side of the L in the kitchen…and NOT a corner sink, and I agree with that! A reg sized queen. Better quality recliners…we have the nice ones in our passport, and they are so much more comfortable than the ones in this video!
    I’m a kitchen person, so this one makes me happy! All the storage, all the space to actually chop veggies and prepare food! I like the oven AND the microwave…we use both regularly! I’d prefer stainless steel to that black fridge, though.
    I was happy about the storage for shoes or for pet bowls! But at the same time, the dinette is just eh.
    I wish manufacturers would get rid of ALL the carpet! Throw rugs are easy and cheap…and people can get the ones they want.
    The little bit of storage next to the shower…THANK YOU to the manufacturer! In ours we have so little bath storage in ours…just a teeny spot for tp and chemicals under the sink, and the medicine cabinet. Having a place to put towels would be so so nice!
    Space is prolly an issue, but having an outdoor sink, or a way to get water at the outdoor kitchen area would be nice. (My husband hooks a hose + nozzle to his outdoor sink on ours…but the water there while cooking and all is nice. He wakes super early, goes outside, and makes his coffee out there. And then for cleaning after he cooks outside.) And I’d love one with a washer + dryer. But again, the space is prolly not there.
    I don’t have a preference with the closet area. We are used to cubbies, and rarely hang anything. But we also haven’t full timed in an rv. I might like shelves behind a door more than the drawers…. But I suppose that all that I normally roll up and put into storage cubes could be hung on hangers, and smaller things would work in the drawers.
    I’m excited about this rv!

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  Před rokem

      I'm eager to see the final production run for sure!

  • @pashmac7
    @pashmac7 Před rokem +2

    Sooooo awesome! Since there is soooo much storage already, would it be weird to put a fireplace next to the pantry (under the coffee bar) instead of the lower cabinets - since it would be next to the recliners and the dinette? Especially since you could store your coffee maker right there in the pantry for transit?🤷🏻‍♀️ I just like a fireplace! Lol! Other than that (even just like it is), this really is a fantastic camper! I love the bathroom - tall shower, linen closet, and good sized! Love the wardrobe - love those drawers! Truth is, I’d be ok with just one hanging clothes wardrobe and more drawers, but I still love it like it is! Love the camper in road mode too - thank you Keystone! Love the size! Love the outside storage, outside kitchen, and the solar! Thanks for the review, Josh!

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  Před rokem +1

      A few others have asked for it! Doesn't seem weird to me

  • @1Mellie65
    @1Mellie65 Před rokem +7

    Full Queen (maybe opt King) and a desk with “Tele-vator” in place of dinette. Theatre seats with heat (and massage?). Blinds from bottom would be wonderful. Other than those musts everything is fantastic!! Love this!

  • @mikemayfield1288
    @mikemayfield1288 Před rokem +5

    Thanks Josh! Love this model. I would gladly trade a couple hundred pounds of gear for 15 more gallons of fresh water and 10 more gallons of black water capacity.

  • @mikemcintyre9494
    @mikemcintyre9494 Před rokem +1

    What an absolute sweetheart of a unit... I honestly don't think id change a thing.. But an option to change dinette for a couple of lazy boy style recliners...

  • @toddspencer5926
    @toddspencer5926 Před rokem +2

    I love this layout. Ready to see one of these in person!!

  • @thomaswilkerson1583
    @thomaswilkerson1583 Před rokem +3

    Nice coffee bar!

  • @kirkg3458
    @kirkg3458 Před rokem +3

    Hey Josh love the idea of the desk swaption. My wife suggested maybe even a bar with barstools, swaption. Thanks!

  • @lisaturner4741
    @lisaturner4741 Před rokem +1

    Nearly perfect! A small free standing table and chairs to replace booth. Allows me to change it up a bit and re-arrange. LOVE IT OTHERWISE, especially the closet for hanging longer clothes and easy access to drawers!!! 👍👍

  • @patwieferich3541
    @patwieferich3541 Před rokem

    I have watched a lot of RV reviews lately and this 5th wheel is by far my favorite so far. It checks most of the boxes for me. Personally, I would like a fold out bed instead of the theater seats (even though I really like the theater seats) for the occasional times that my older (adult) kids stay with us. Two thumbs up for this RV!

  • @maryjanegibson7743
    @maryjanegibson7743 Před rokem +3

    How's this for an idea? This may be too wild, but I was thinking of your idea of a desk with a rising tv in it. How about if that desk had some kind of table extension so that it could be converted to a table if one was needed sometimes? It just occurred to me as I was watching your video. Perhaps the desk top could flip up and forward on hinges and supports for it could pull out from beside the desk drawers. There would surely be room somewhere to store two folding chairs. It's just a thought, and maybe nobody would ever use it, but I've always had a thing for furniture that converts from one use to another.

  • @RVtraveler-TN
    @RVtraveler-TN Před rokem +3

    Would love this with table and chairs for more floor space since just 2 of us & store other 2 chairs if foldable under the bed.
    P.S. Josh, you do a great job with the walkthroughs on RV models especially when you show how the towed mode looks like since we stop for lunch and many times overnight at Walmart and Cracker Barrel and would like to know how much room we have with slides in. Thx for all your help.

  • @MrNickb-s500
    @MrNickb-s500 Před rokem +2

    Josh this is a very nice and well designed 23ft Cougar 5th wheel! Great Work Cougar!😊😊👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @robertdahlgren622
    @robertdahlgren622 Před rokem +1

    Love the travel access! Very sweet floorplan. We carry a small portable washing machine that could possibly be stored in the bottom of the pantry with the removal of the lowest shelf. That could work since there is plenty of storage throughout the kitchen living area. Door sliding screen should slide down from the top. I like the table as it makes a good place to play games or work. Nice rig!

    • @debraewing2859
      @debraewing2859 Před rokem

      We've been thinking of a portable washing machine too. Thanks for the input.

  • @dadpool3519
    @dadpool3519 Před rokem +4

    Love the idea of removing the dining area for a combo desk / dining option!

  • @TNRedchick7
    @TNRedchick7 Před rokem +3

    Would love the desk option!!

  • @lcpinco2783
    @lcpinco2783 Před rokem +1

    I love this floor plan! I like having a dinette table. The storage is awesome! Especially the pantry. Great bathroom. I like the side drawers for the dresser in the bedroom.I love this one.

  • @SneekySecrets
    @SneekySecrets Před rokem +1

    Love it, love it, love it!!!!! Just the right size kitchen space. Desk/televator option would be great too. Like the closet, the bathroom, the finishes & color scheme. Cougar is always worth it's spot on the short list.

  • @loriw2661
    @loriw2661 Před rokem +4

    Any rig, be it a travel trailer OR 5th wheel, that has a separate, enclosed bedroom, should ALWAYS come with two A/C’s. Always. For me as a solo RV’er, this is perfect (with the 2nd A/C that is).

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  Před rokem +1

      Generally I don't disagree. When I visited our Oregon store I was shocked how many BIG FWs I saw there with single air. Clients in that area reportedly preferred to add a big fan in the bedroom instead of an A/C unit
      Different Strokes I guess!

  • @suzannesnuggs4964
    @suzannesnuggs4964 Před rokem +3

    Yes! Definitely get rid of the dinette and replace it with a fireplace and televator. Do that and it would be darn hard for me to say no to this rig. Also would like to see something other than overhead power outlets in the kitchen. Most appliance cords are too short to reach them.

  • @Dlong77
    @Dlong77 Před 10 měsíci +1

    This is the perfect rig that I have been waiting for. The only two things I would like to see added or an option to add would be a fantastic fan and a showermiser system put in bathroom. That’s just me being nit picky. Don’t change anything else!!! PERFECT

  • @timsimpkins3284
    @timsimpkins3284 Před rokem +1

    The more I watch this video, the more I like it. I’ll consider purchasing in the spring. I’m waiting for trucks to to come out !

  • @robertpacific8319
    @robertpacific8319 Před rokem +3

    If they got rid of the booth and put like a cabinet there instead, then prepped it for a combo washer dryer.

  • @davidsizemore2745
    @davidsizemore2745 Před rokem +4

    Pop up power supply with USB outlets would be better in the corner of the counter between the two windows.

  • @Hayek321
    @Hayek321 Před rokem +1

    Very innovative floor plan. We bought a 316RLS 1.5 years ago and there are a few things I wish were standard. One is that door shade, which was an option on mine. Also, I had a sprinter previously that had privacy windows, you could see out, but not see in, whereas in the Cougar it's see through from outside. Overall, really enjoy our 316.

  • @MoMyers
    @MoMyers Před rokem +2

    Love it !!!

  • @timsimpkins3284
    @timsimpkins3284 Před rokem +2

    First glance, love it! Leave out the dinette!

  • @rd1860
    @rd1860 Před rokem +7

    Completely agree with your thought about a desk/televator option in lieu of the standard booth dinette. This would also allow for additional storage to be added where the TV currently resides. The travel mode accessibility on this unit is almost unheard of on a 5th-wheel.

  • @johnbeeck2540
    @johnbeeck2540 Před rokem +1

    Happy thanksgiving Josh! Thankful for your helpful videos!

  • @Lulutalon
    @Lulutalon Před rokem +1

    What a great floorplan! I'm really liking it! 👍

  • @NickCharles
    @NickCharles Před rokem +3

    If the price is right, I would absolutely buy this sans dinette and throw my sit-stand desk there for remote work. I'm perfectly fine with the floor vents, too - makes any necessary renovations that much easier! With the theater seating, 12V fridge, and rear carpetless, flush slide, it's nearly perfect!
    If I had any points of consideration - and I'm being REALLY pitpicky here - I would have liked to see the kitchen windows be just a bit taller, and yes the awning does seem to be on the smaller side but I don't see where they could have squeezed much more length in there. Also, I noticed the redesigned floor vent did not make it into the bathroom - is there a reason for that?

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  Před rokem +1

      Likely because this is a prototype and isn’t“complete“ quite yet

  • @kimeastman3977
    @kimeastman3977 Před rokem +3

    Love this except for the bedroom. I wish it had an east/west bed slide so there is more floor space to get dressed. I also prefer queen bed being standard with a king option. My final major issue is the sealed counters, absolutely would not go with anything but solid surface after having had a sealed counter fail and swell up after getting wet. Those few changes and I would buy it in a heartbeat!!!
    P.S. - my family would drop food and liquids down a televator. Not a fan of those. Lol

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  Před rokem +1

      I think they MIGHT be working on a bed-slide version of this. Fingers crossed!

  • @dariovaldez2560
    @dariovaldez2560 Před rokem +1

    very nice. cougar done a great job with this fith wheel it will make some one happy.

  • @kcdaniels58
    @kcdaniels58 Před rokem +1

    We just got back from the Tampa RV show and saw this 5th wheel...we loved it.. Perfect size for two people ! The show price was about $57000.....prices have gone thru the roof in the last two years...in 2018 we bought a 2015 Micro Lite 22' for $12000 in like New condition...

  • @thegoldenbloomsfarm
    @thegoldenbloomsfarm Před rokem +12

    Love what you do Josh! I would go with freestanding table and chairs (desk not required as table can be your desk). They should get rid of the carpet in the bedroom - how many times have I gotten ready to leave and had to grab something in the bedroom with my shoes on... happens all the time! And yes, get rid of the carpet in the storage too. Love all the windows in kitchen area, large closet in bedroom and coffee center. Not sure if you mentioned it, but can the AC unit be controlled from the bed or do you have to get up to turn it on/off?

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  Před rokem

      HVAC can be done thru InCommand app on your phone
      Otherwise you need to go to the panel

  • @robinfoster2382
    @robinfoster2382 Před rokem +3

    I like this RV. I would prefer the medicine cabinet in the bathroom be right handed, NOT left handed. A bigger TV would be nice and it should be lower, not up to the ceiling. If they made a shorter window to match the others that could be done. Also would like chairs instead of booths. Thank you for another great video Josh! 💜

    • @michaelskvarek6857
      @michaelskvarek6857 Před rokem

      For the life of me I don't understand the left hand cabinet door! Mine is that way too! I can only imagine that it is that way so someone can look in the mirror from the hall while someone is using the sink...??

  • @charlenecastaldo3602
    @charlenecastaldo3602 Před rokem +2

    I love it! That kitchen is fabulous! Who doesn't know what a 22 mls is? Ha ha!

  • @sherriweber7105
    @sherriweber7105 Před rokem +1

    Josh this one is really nice I like it! It’s a nice size. Nit big nit small just right. I love the counter top I the kitchen. Love the seats across from the tv and the bathroom and bedroom. Thank you fir showing this one Josh! Great job! 👍

  • @shanebrown2963
    @shanebrown2963 Před rokem +3

    This will be in the top 3 for my wife and I to buy next summer. If we did buy this unit the di-net would get replace with a bar top facing the window with a couple bar stools. That eating area takes up too much space and It intrudes too much into the kitchen area.

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  Před rokem +1

      I saw grand design starting to flirt with that bar/window idea. I hope it catches on!

  • @joekelley9311
    @joekelley9311 Před rokem +2

    I feel like they could have squeezed a washer dryer prep into the lower pantry/ linen area with access from the living room side. I prefer a free standing table or desk option. The only other thing I would like to see is larger windows in the kitchen area (European style?)

  • @wilsonej2
    @wilsonej2 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Love it! The only problem I have is the tv's over the dinette. I like to watch tv while I eat. Everything else is FANTASTIC!!!

  • @garyweggies
    @garyweggies Před rokem +1

    We loved this one so much at the Hershey show we bought one! It is great! Travel access was on our list along with windows in the rear and camp side. Weight was a factor as we’re towing with a half ton, F150 EcoBoost 3.5 V6. Tow rating is 11,400, but we also searched for the Heavy Duty Payload Package. Rare, but we found one. Payload capacity of 2469 lbs. is plenty for this one.
    Thanks Josh, LOVE your stuff!

    • @brendabeyer5583
      @brendabeyer5583 Před rokem

      HI Gary, we are looking to tow with a 2022 F150 EcoBoost with max tow package tow rating 13,800 and payload capacity of 1,725. From your experience with a fifth wheel would this work? What year truck are you towing with? Thank you.

    • @garyweggies
      @garyweggies Před rokem

      @@brendabeyer5583 Hi Brenda. Our truck is a 2020. We've been towing travel trailers for years, and when we decided to try fifth wheeling we wanted to stick with a half ton ecoboost so it wouldn't eat up too much gas when we're just driving around. In our initial research we learned (from Josh and other CZcamsrs) to be wary of the "Half-Ton Towable" label some RV manufacturers use. Drilling into some of the F150 forums and videos, we learned about the Heavy Duty Payload Package available from Ford for the F150. A great option, but apparently only installed in 1/900 trucks built. We found one and it tows just fine. Since the 23 MLE is so new, some of the specs are hard to pin down. I've seen pin weights anywhere from 1200 to 1500+ lbs. Since these are based on the dry weight of the trailer, which is not a situation any of us will ever find ourselves in, you can be sure the actual pin weight will be more. Even at 1200 with 100 lbs. of hitch and 300 lbs of people, you're getting close to your listed payload capacity. In reality you will be over, and while it may feel like it's towing just fine, exceeding the listed capacity of your tow vehicle is never a good idea. Got a bot word-y there but hope that helps, Brenda. Happy Camping!

    • @debradoddy2030
      @debradoddy2030 Před rokem

      Somehow we missed this at Hershey. I would love to see it in person.

  • @Flying_High80
    @Flying_High80 Před rokem +4

    Would love for the booth table to be removed and a fireplace added

  • @Barret-paddles
    @Barret-paddles Před rokem +5

    Great layout and agree with earlier comment about a window up front over the bed. Seat in the shower is excellent! Would love to see a small fireplace ( not sure where!) but the dinette has good storage vs. table & chairs in that spot. Slam latches on all outside doors is preferable. Really like this rig and appreciate your work Josh!!

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  Před rokem +4

      TY Barret
      What if it had no dinette, but an extended counter with fireplace and storage?

  • @deenas8715
    @deenas8715 Před rokem +1

    Absolutely LOVE this model! I wish the back dinette seat had a slide out drawer.

  • @roannathephoenix8561
    @roannathephoenix8561 Před rokem +1

    Make that little peninsula a deeper countertop for a bar style eating option and put a free floating chair under the TV with maybe a small end table or pop up table for socializing and that'd be my preference over a dinette.

  • @williamquestmagic
    @williamquestmagic Před rokem +3

    Superb, Superb, Superb and with the hallway on the Camp Side it's even BETTERER! Thank you for the magnificent showing Josh, will in Florida

  • @JohnGrit
    @JohnGrit Před rokem +3

    What! PbR!! In a bottle is good summer beer!! Don't judge me!!😅😆

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  Před rokem +1

      Considering the garbage music I listen to when I was in high school… I can’t really judge anybody for much of anything lol

  • @csishredder
    @csishredder Před rokem +1

    my wife and I were at your store yesterday and looked at the 23MLS and we did like it but this 23MLE is much better. thanks for this review Josh!!!

  • @jeffreytull5767
    @jeffreytull5767 Před rokem +1

    Definitely dinette as shown; I love that they use the hinge bracket on the wall rather than a pole in a hole! Love the little cubby and the potential storage. Road mode is great, and I like that it's not a block long fifth wheel. Your Payload vs. Towing was brilliant. The awning was short but I don't think they could do anything about that. I would like to see some type of 3 - 4 ft. pull out awning so that you are protected from sun or rain while using the griddle. I really like it!

  • @vickiehanson9381
    @vickiehanson9381 Před rokem +4

    Love this Cougar! The kitchen is perfect! Beautiful countertop/cupboard materials, love those extra deep drawers (nice size stove & frig) also I would keep the dinette in case we needed a bed for grandkids, sis-in-law, etc. The entryway cabinet and pantry door are functional as well as stylish. Theatre style loveseat looks like good quality, so do the window shades. The bathroom is beautiful and looks to be good quality, which as a consumer would expect from Cougar mfg. Sorry the bed can't be larger but I love those nightstands on each side allowing for phones and c-pap machines. Nice closet with good storage in the bedroom and throughout the camper. Perfect for a couple! Thank you!😃

  • @debrapettay2752
    @debrapettay2752 Před rokem +3

    Lose the camp queen - full queen please

  • @dianedvorak6681
    @dianedvorak6681 Před rokem +2

    Definitely love the booth table!

  • @cherylallen3526
    @cherylallen3526 Před rokem +1

    Okay, this is it!! We love our GD 17MKE. It is great for weekends but in the next few years, we hopefully will be able to Camp more. This layout and the light bright colors, windows extras make it the next one for us!!!!!!!!! Awesome RV. I would like a fireplace but I would rather they remove the pantry and make cabinets all the way across on the top and make the fireplace in the bottom cabinet. I like the dinette but if they could do the televator, fireplace and flip out table for dinner that would be ingenious. Love the sliding door in the bathroom!!