Ranked Fortnite Has a Big Problem
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
- Ranked Fortnite Has a Big Problem...
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Hey everyone it’s Reisshub, and Welcome back to another fortnite battle royale vid! Today Epic just released the new Ranked Fortnite Mdde! Hope you enjoy!
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Wow, you covered basically every concern I have about both game modes in under 15 minutes. You should be put on the development team for Fortnite or at least paid as a consultant.
Fr epic needs to hire this dude
it's crazy how epic messes up thi9s big, i know this ranked mode is in develpment but...come on
@@SG-mf1ssthey..have?
Right , this guy made a very good point . Epic really needs to see this video
@@SG-mf1ss they did but not for the latest 2 seasons
Those nicknames on 03:00 were just amazing😂
thanks for pointing this out
Im running out of names was the funniest one
Boop Doesn’t Qual
Good video, 1 solution to the loot pools being the same is nerfing certain items in ranked but keeping it the same in pubs, for example... the original spiderman Gloves had I think 80 uses in pubs but only 20 in tourneys so they could just balance certain items like grenades ect by doing it this way... that way the loot pool is the same yet its fun for casuals aswell as competitive for ranked game modes. Thoughts?
I was gonna comment something like this, like keep the items but nerf them
Yep, thinking the samething
1:13 things like courageJD😂
Hey Reisshub, great vid as always. I'm currently top 100 unreal in zero build and maybe for some people it's as sinister as they're smurfing for easier games, but it's actually true that it's not possible to get a game if you're plat3+. Just to clarify, it wasn't always like this... the first 6 days were totally fine.. but once people went back to work and school, the queues became so long there was just no point to play. For 2 days I sat in queues for 30+ mins and couldn't get into games. The only way I could get in was loading into games in Europe but I live on the west coast so it just was no fun being on 150+ ping plus queues were still over 15 minutes. I think most of us in unreal would prefer to face other unreal players, at least that's how I feel, but the reality is that it is impossible to get into games unless you load in with a low ranking player and with the state of zero build pubs being so horrible (some lobbies having 90% bots) I would rather load into ranked with a smurf account just to face real players lol.
these videos are great and hopefully get the attention of people at epic, but we have to consider this is the first ever season in fortnite where were shifting from arena to ranked and there's going to probably be many improvements on may 9th (season 3) like hopefully adding siphon because its more comfortable against third parties. and having lets say different mmr like if your gold and play like plat you'll be put in gold/plat lobbies for quicker queues. Same with unreal people wait 10 hours just to queue but with mmr there can be elites or even champions in unreal lobbies and make queue times quicker
Oh boy do I have something to disappoint you with..
real 6 months later lol @@cleanzoz
Imo, I do want more weapons in the loot pool, especially ARs. Most of the ARs are all decent and wouldn't dilute the loot pool (maybe in early game though)
I think the tourneys should allow people to join depending on if they are in elite champion or unreal, with your system the ines in unreal can go in fncs, the ones in champ or the next one down can gk in the cash cups etc
one thing i never see anyone talk about is how the ranked rewards affect how people play, i’ve been getting the impression people want to hide and play cowardly just so they can get their 100 damage and then W key to their death
Honestly they need arena back, it was so much better
great thoughts! i agree with a fixed number of places in the top tiers and you have to keep grinding to KEEP your spot
Honestly I believe there is no difference in being around platinum to diamond rank this season than to being champs in arena when it was out. You run into a very small proportion of bad players, mostly sweats and once in a while a pro.
I got killed by rezon in a diamond lobby :/
Yea, no matter how skilled you were I think the highest someone's placement game was like diamond 2. So, if your an actual diamond you might face pros since they're just starting ranked.
I got no clue why the didn't just keep arena, it is practically the same thing but just way better
@@JazzD_335 agreed, it's like they whacked a meaningless ranked system on pubs and called it ranked. I've gone from enjoying high kill arena games to enjoying just completing quests in pubs 💀
I'm plat 3 and died to multiple unreal players. Even died to Mappnada (7th in this FNCS).
@@xenai. No even in plat you might find unreal players
Wow man, you’ve earned a sub… the way you went in to detail and even gave epic a good replacement is awesome!
Thanks my man, much appreciated!
1:30 I've been saying that your rank/arena division should be per mode forever! I played Rocket League before and always thought it was weird the game would use the same for solos and team modes. I even think it's weird to use the same hidden SBMM across modes, it's not right that if you play lots of team modes then decide to play solos the game will throw harder lobbies at you based on team game results.
rocket league has diffferent ranks for doubles/solos/ and 3s lmao what
@@AmpzRL you're misunderstanding my comment. I'm saying it's weird that Fortnite has one rank across all modes unlike Rocket League and was comparing it. Did you watch the video? I even reference a timestamp.
@@WellingtonCordeiro I didn't misunderstand your comment, you mistyped it. The way you worded it there was no comparison when you brought up rocket league. It sounded like you were saying that rocket league also has the "one rank across all modes" and you didn't like that either. I think I understand what you are saying now since rocket league is owned by epic games and has a rank for each individual game mode, but epic games didn't do that for them, psyonix did. Rocket league was already a well established game and had individual ranks for each game mode way before epic bought it, so its not really a valid comparison.
8:13, yes but theres no ques in oce for diamond and above until about 3 in the afternoon, but there are still ten or more minute que times for a game
My problem is that when I drop 18 kills with my duo and the win, we ranked up like 5% but when we died off spawn we lost like 30%
i cant even play duos with my friend anymore because our playstyle is very placement based and we try to get picks later in the game. we have had games where we got 2nd place with 7 late game kills and went up 7% but died of spawn and went down 30%. if we play 4 good games, top 5 with a few kills then die once of spawn we end up worse of than where we started and have wasted like 2 hours. solo is similar but not as bad
@@peterfeeney3970literally exactly what me and my friend deal with
me and my friend jus hot drop at anvil and get 15 kills of spawn together and then w key for the rest of the game and we drop like 30 kills per game and we got unreal like really fast
I have the same issue, we got 4th place with 6 elims and we gót like 3% up but when we get eliminated in top 10 with zero kills its just a -10%. So annoying and does not make sense, should be fixed like in arena, you got your placement score and your elims score. Thanks for pointing it out
It’s still an issue in 2024. My whole squad gets 25 kills we place 3rd and I only go up 1%
i recently switched to your binds do you hit 7 (smg) with your ring finger ?
I’m in 2024, and many problems have been fixed thanks reiss
4:35 LMAO 1 HP playS?! xD
Something I’ve been wondering about is what would it do to ranked if you had to win a game to rank up. It would be similar to league of legends in the way of you progress to 100% of gold 2, but then you have to win a game to get to gold 3. This would mean games would be more stacked because there will always be people in the lobby trying only to win. Would also make ranking up far harder which may seem like a good thing to some, and a bad thing to others.
no
ok but fr using a game where there is two teams as an example of something to include into a battle royale makes no sense to me winning against 99 other players seems significantly harder than wining a game of league when there is only one other team also league sucks thats the main point
I personally think each game mode should have it's own ranking system. What I mean with this, is for example Courage, he might not be the best mechanical player, but he knows how to fight and collaborate as a team and that's basically what it all comes down to in Battle Royale (for a reason it's called squads). Solo in the other hand, is about skill, a good mindset and thoughtful moves to get the victory or good placement.
lmaooo the ending has me 💀
Amazing Takes, i personally like to play solo even in arena because i know if i mess up it's all on me but i'm forced to play at night since that's when my ping is usually best and Even with it being Eu servers the queue times are bad
3:00 you did Courage dirty lmao
Fantastic video as always. That ending 😂
This idea is good but at the same time if you have a different rank for every single mode, the que times will be even longer
The casual and comp can just have guns work differently
Remember when the spider gloves were needed to be like 12 or 15 in comp
The loot pool doesn't need to be the same and they don't even need to work the same
Thats how you fix that issue
so true, Solo, Dou and squads should all have each rank. Epic Games even got this idea from rocket league and they even have each rank for each mode!
3:00 "AussieAntics (Carried)"
nahhh 💀
People would also play more tournament like if placement progress was more substantial then it is currently. You can get too five with a few kills and still lose progress which shouldn’t be possible due to the way tournament scoring is and relies on placement points
The thing is with ranked pub players can go in there and abuse the pub items which is something comp-arena players aren't used to
I have a quick question if we are supposed to grind all 3 modes of duos solos and squads that would be alot of grinding
maybe even too much because casual players/ college students dont have that much time to win do this
ok so i agree with what you said in the video however they are still testing out ranked if you think about it and will continue to adjust over time but besides from that great video!
I miss arena.
Absolutely right about siphon. I am always getting keyed and win with 40 HP or so. Third Partys always kill me afterwards
1:21 thats kinda valid idea
games do have different ranks for solo, duos and squads
Ranked should only be solo's or duo's. It's a lot harder to carry in duo's unless your teammate is an absolute demon. This way, your rank should reflect your skill level more accurately. Also, the player base won't be so divided between game modes, which will improve que times.
This makes sense tbh.
this is a horrible idea
Thx GOD some one is finally talking about this!
Question: what’s the meta way to gather a loot pile that’s floating in water? I never know whether to just swim around atop the water grabbing items or jump up and down while making micro adjustments. Seems like the former is quicker but more risky and the latter safer but takes longer. Which do most pros do?
I think just get it as fast as you can and get out
I feel if there are ranks for each mode it would be a lot of grinding just to be able to play some tourneys
Great video. I really think the biggest problem is that placement isn't a priority at all
yoo your the guy from tik tok.
let me edit for you uwu
@@steazyfx Naw I’ll always edit my own videos but TY 😂
Why? A high elimination / mid placement match shows more skill than a low elimination / good placement match...
Love your videos keep up your good work
13:32 I think the answer is to reduce spawn rate and nerf damage or abilities in competitive I don’t think lucasfilm would notice/care if the sith lightsaber does 20 dps in solo cash cup and 40 dps in casual solos 🤷♂️
Edit Reiss said that 10s later lol
What a cutoff at the end 😂😂😂
As well ive also has really good experience in plat lobbies. W keying is still a significant part with no real engame component but i find it comptetive especially off drop.
Easy fixes:
Remove squads
Add siphon
Split loot pools
De-rank from unreal
Both gamemodes need to only have solos and duos
Tournament format points
im surprised about this, it is incredible how hard it is for me to literally get into gold (making it to gold for like 1 round), it is quite hard for a couple of others too, getting 24 kills and winning a duos match only to go up 17%? its honestly insane that some people are finding it so easy to do it.
I got placed in silver 3 and got to gold in 3 matches. Only one was a win, they were all solos
5:55. *cough cough.* bush camp dad. *cough.*
I think what should happen is a seperation of balance changes, for example the grenades, keep the nades powerful in pubs but nerf them for ranked. How hard that is idk but i feel it would be worth it to keep casuals and competitive players in
Muzz killed me with a sword in one of the clips LOL
I've been stuck in Platinum 2 since the start of ranked. I'm from Oceania and I've noticed that my best games are when I play solos. However due to not being able to get into solo matches, and having no friends, I play squad fills. However everytime I play fills I end up deranking or rank up a little.
just hot drop and get kills cause oceania cant b that hard for kills there rven though kills early game dont count as much as they do later it still is gonna b the best way to rank up. If u just get 10 kills every game ur gonna rank up decently fast every game
So what your saying is I don't necessarily need to survive until end game everytime to rank up. Cause most of the time, the teammates I get just don't know when to fight and when to go to loot island.
@@MCG6233 oce either has crazy sweaty players or complete bots no in between at the moment
@@itsViPar If u get 15 kills from landing hot drop then die mid game u will still gain points. And I wouldnt look for fights early game just let them come to u and in mid game look for fights u can win, if ur playing squads and u c a duo or a solo try to push them with ur team to get few easy kills. In end game it is probally the easiest to decide what kills to go for, if u dont have great mats or not many heals u need to quiclkly push and get a refresh but if u have a lot of heals and matts then play it out for the late game and not get gready and end up sellinng a good loadout. If you want to go to loot island u need decent matts cause kids love just to crank on top of the house. And if u dont have any slurp u should proabbly try to get to the island first. If u dont have mobility it shouldnt b too much of a problem at loot island cause there is many ways to run with like the pads or zips. Also if u get low and have the spider gloves DONT TRY TO SWING AWAY, it is so easy to get shot out and fall trust it has happend to me. Alr gl man hope i helped
@@poof2380 what rank r u in? i play NA east and every single kid dimand and up r pretty good
I agree with everything you said these are all probably I see in every ranked games
Splatoon 2 back then had a good example of this, when reaching X rank, you could basically fight for bragging rights but when you lose a lot of games, you can de rank to S+. So unreal is basically splatoon 2 X rank except it’s easy and you cannot derank from unreal
Dang I didn't even realize that it's harder in solos to get unreal. I kept dieing when I played with my "not quite as good freinds" so I just grinded solos to get unreal.
probably the most ironic part is the most people are in elite now 😂 (or champion) miss when the rank distribution kind of made sense
i would add that higher rank to get benefits in competitive tournaments. So there's an incentive to play rank, because if you put it in points, some players will just ignore it entirely.
Can we also talk about the insane ammount of lag that is in game, ranked feels like old tournaments and tournaments now feel like an fncs lobby, and the games dont even need to be stacked, a gane with 55 players after 1st zone feels alot of the times the same as a game with 85 players. This just makes ir very hard to actually edit sometimes and having good mechanics is actually worse than having bad ones because with good ones, we try to do edits fast and just end up messing them up and with bad ones you barely make an edit and you can still get away with it because you didnt "complicate" the fight.
i get decent ping in ranked like 5-10 but i just feel delay editing and building and also when i full box a kid and i jus get 1 pumped in unreal and i spectate them and they r a full drone it jus piss me tf off
@@MCG6233 yep i feel you these server are ippssible to play
@@pbvfx25 Im taking a break from competetive till next season cause i hope the loot pool will b better and that they add syphon back but for now im just playing box fights and zonewars
i remember when in chapter 2 s2 there would be stacked endgames in arena and people would literally box up and pickaxe swing
Reisshub: These rewards........ yeah.
Apex legends players: Are we a joke to you.
One thing I don't agree with, ranked games should definitely value eliminations higher than placement. A 10 elim #10 place match should give more than a 1 elim #2 - we want to entice players to fight in order to progress through the ranks. A high rank player should be one that consistently wins fights against similarly ranked opponents. This is something to be applied to cups and FNCS as well: simply getting first place in a match shouldn't be as important as winning 33 (!) individual fights against players. Getting 34 eliminations surely shows more skill than a 1 elimination win.
I think unreal should be like radiant in valorant where only a select minority of the top players get to be in it while still having a leaderboard for both unreal and the rank bellow.
I disagree, Unreal players not being able to de-rank is what brought me to grind rank
@@andyconcepcion5883 Nawh its stupid, Unreal should only be so many slots like challenger in league
@@donc7984that wouldn't be fair as people sit there and spend hours of their life to get there and just lose it in a hour
@@GrimReaper_TTVBro, that’s what gets people to grind. Wdym it’s unfair. You just play squads, get yo 🍑 carried and then just say “I’m an unreal player!🤓” I think you’ve never actually played a game with a good ranking system. If you did then idk what to tell you.
Agree with most everything except I hate seeing bots in competitive, it defeats the purpose. The main reason I use to play competitive is that I get tired of the bots. I don't play arena very often, so even if I win my first game, I get put in silver and have to deal with bots for a few games, which always annoys the hell out of me.
Also, I hate that marketing deals are more important than making the game fun. Most people who play tournament never win any money and do it for fun. Feels like making the loot pools the same and removing siphon if just Epic being lazy.
Love the names on the leaderboard😂
I just wanted to get this out there, but there is an exponential amount of casual players compared to comp, so splitting the lootpool wont be too harmful for the monetization of epic games.
Imagine even getting into ranked games in the first place the queue times are insane if I even manage to get a game its maybe 2 games a day if im lucky but most days I get none
I do agree with but I feel solos is much easier but squads is a lot more chaotic
fun fact, as a elite player with a elite duo, most moving zones have 30 people and normallly its heal off with like 5 people. or someone w keys and does not go into heal off
siphon part was so real, the game has been very annoying ever since they removed it from pubs. ended up playing arena even as a semi-casual player because it just makes the game so much better
Bro dissed courage lmao
I find it the opposite of easy especially in C5S1, I go to a small location on the edge of the map to not fight anyone to get placement points and 7 people go to the same area that has 4 chests. Anywhere I go there’s someone who somehow lands on a blue Drumshotgun and I get a grey pistol.
You are correct with the bad players but if there’s only 500 people in unreal the queue times will be almost tripled
Bro Has a beef with courage💀
I also find it annoying about the loot pool and lack of placement points because if I’m at top 6 with 1 kill, I would die to someone spamming the odm gear then I would only gain 5% of the rank
They also def didn’t make it so people lose and gain the same amount on a team. Sometimes I’ll gain, and my friend will complain about losing or vise versa
after being somewhat involved with Fortnite for the past 6 years, I have realized epic simply does not care about high level players. they only care about the casual player base and getting them to spend money. I understand why they are doing this, but it leads me to believe that simple changes which will drastically improve the competitiveness of the game will not be made. Arena hasnt even had point based matchmaking since C2S2, so i doubt they will care about a better matchmaking system for the new ranked gamemode. I remember back in C1S9 games would have 25+ people on half and half, and go until 4th moving. Everyone was actually competing to get the 300 points for champions league
Fortnite could have been a better competitive game that LoL, rocketleague, csgo, etc, and actually appeal to the 16+ year old player base, but they just dont care.
dang your right. but that sucks. real bad.
Absolutely. I don’t play much, but I’ve been playing since I was 10, so I’m bound to be decent at the game. The hyper focus on cheap money grabbing colabs completely detracts from the actual game (not to mention that the colabs often worsen the game) and makes it difficult to play. This new ranked mode with that horrific mythic, an overly casual lootpool and no syphon is torture to play, so I don’t play it. If Fortnite had continued on the trajectory they were on back in chapter 1 and early chapter 2, Fortnite would undoubtedly be the best overall game to be released
@@ohareair552 fax
I feel like the % system should work closer to a Valorant rr system than it not mattering when you get to unreal
How do you get that rank display near the health
Reisshub with another banger!
3:00 lol
we love you reiss
greatest fortnite competitive youtuber
best ending
amazing video I completely agree with you and especially with the SIPHON!!!!!!!!
Oooo I like the separate rank idea
maybe epic makes 2 versions of an item, one for comp and one for pubs
When they announced the ranked mode I thought it was separate ranks for solo, duos and squads because thinking otherwise would be extremely dumb...
We have this in Minecraft Bedwars. Some people will get a friend to use a alt to hack, so they can boost their stats. Luckily you can get banned for it
My ranked game mode just lags a lot. It takes the fun put of it. No other game mode lags like ranked
very true. I am in a tree in wailing woods as watch this video.
Best way to add sponsorshipped items into the ranked is to just balance them in ranked like slower odm and i pubs as it was u know shing shing shing
For Loot Pools, there is an easy fix. Make 6!
Zero Build Pubs
Zero Build Ranked
Zero Build Comp
Build Pubs
Build Rank
Build Comp
That allows some Zero-Build exclusive items which may be underused in Build. It also allows Epic to have their separated Pubs and Comp Loot Pools, while having a sort of mutual loot pool in Ranked not too different from Comp, but enough familiar for casuals.
10:54 prospering mentioned, video liked
4:03 , in my experience i saw bots all the way until plat 2
The biggest problem with having separate ranks with duos solos squads is that the que times take forever. I play duo because i Can not get into a solo game and I’m only Diamond imagine in champs or elite
I think they should make unreal only have 750 players (or less) so it’s actually a competition and have champion have it like how unreal is now and you would need a minimum about of points or you fall out of the rank
It really seems like creating high quality matches for all players at every rank is nearly impossible. Expecting there to be 100 people within a reasonable skill range of one another queuing into a game (same mode, same region, etc) at any given time just seems unrealistic. I keep dying to Unreal players in ZB and my duo and I are Plat II/I😩it's just so frustrating. I was really excited to play a ranked mode against people similar to my skill level but we keep getting demolished by cracked people that have no business being in our lobbies lmfao. It just seems like they should reduce the # of players in a game. I'd rather be in lobbies of 50 people near my rank than have them widen the skill range a ton just to force 100 people into the lobby 😖
This video made me feel good about myself knowing that I got into diamond 3 only through solo’s
Unfortunately the idea of unranking and not being able to play FNCS cannot work due to the fact that a lot of pros just get to Unreal and stop playing Ranked. The idea of FNCS is to have the best X number of players competing for prizes. Not the casuals who can grind the game all day because they have nothing else to do over summer time and then they take the spot of a pro player that actual has tens of thousands in earnings.
lmfao it can still work that’s just what pros do rn with ranked bc there’s no deranking
It would still work, they just need to fix the way ranked is played. If they were able to make games stacked, casual grinders would never make it to unreal or even elite
In na east diamond 2 or higher it is impossible to queue for a game from 3 to 11 in the morning
well it is season 0 which is the experimental season they will make changes based on community feedback and we know for a fact epic listens to the community
that being said the current ranked is scuffed lol and i have some questions for how some decisions made it into ranked
solid
It feels to me like a rank up 10 x faster in solos as in squads