Cleopatra - Exit Caesar, Enter Antony! - Egyptian History - Extra History - Part 3
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- 📜 Cleopatra: Exit Caesar, Enter Antony! - Cleopatra had put all the chips on Caesar and we all know how that played out. So now she has a choice: back Mark Antony or Octavian. For Cleopatra, the choice was obvious. She had a son with Caesar which conflicted with Octavian's claims to be the heir of Caesar's legacy. Mark Antony on the other hand was looking for a long-distance relationship and knew how to party. The choice was rather obvious. But will it pay off for Cleopatra in the end?
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Little mistake. Caesar was not murded on the "senate floor" . The senate was not meeting in their nominal place but at the theatre of pompey. He in fact died close to or directly beneath a statue of pompey. I always find this very "funny".
He was also the pontifex maximus aka the highest priest in Rome. He had this position for a long time.
Yeah he was always in charge of the calendar. This video is a bit misleading in Cleopatra’s role
Pontifex Maximus is a lifetime appointment which Caesar held
Historia Civilis anyone?
SgtAsher he made us cry over squares 😢
@@uem941 yessss
Caesar already was Rome's chief priest, the Pontifex Maximus, long before he even became consul which meant he was already in charge of the calendar for decades before he went to Egypt so that was not a power grab
Well said!
Did he not hold on to that title too long, im not sure about this. But i thought there where some shannagigans with him still being the pontifex at that point. Like he never actually ended the year until he reorganised the calander or something
@@joykler the Pontifex Maximus was an office held for a lifetime.
At this point of history the Roman Republic was so corrupt and violent that people would rather have a good king then a violent senate if I’m not mistaken
Badatallthis Stuff ya, honestly gave Coleoptera too much credit. She was an amazing historical figure, but not too much as they’re pulling.
“Caesar did stuff normally priests would do”
Caesar as Pontifex Maximus: *am I a joke to you*
Extra Credits:yes
@@andreaskostis4806 I dislike how extra history described Cleopatra as "dunking" on Caesar, Antonius and Octavian. As Octavian dunked on Cleopatra, Antonius never got dunked on by her (as I know) and neither to Caesar
@@twoscarabsintheswarm9055 yeh they try to hype up Cleopatra to people who don't know much about her but she was an impressive woman. They probably cover their asses in the lies episode after
Haven’t found Dad yet Mapping
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@@twoscarabsintheswarm9055 watch the previous episode
So many lies/misrepresentations about Ceaser it hurt.
1) The statute Ceaser had erect was not in a temple for solely Gods but in a Temple venerating key people in Roman History. Previous Roman Kings and the man who started the Roman Republic.
2) Ceaser changing the Calender was within his authority has the Pontifex Maximus Rome's highest elected religious official who among other things was tasked with adjusting the Roman Calendar when it drifted out of date. In fact, before he changed the Roman Lunar Calender to a Solar Calendar the Roman Calendar was so out of date he had to manually add 90 days.
3) Ceaser was not assassinated on the floor of the Senate. The Senate Building was being renovated at the time and the Senate was meeting at various temples throughout Rome. That day in particular the Senate was meeting in a Temple with a Statue of Pompey next to a coliseum which was scheduled to host some Gladiatorial games later in the day.
4) Yes Ceaser was solely accumulating more and more Imperial Powers after the Civil War but those Powers were always given to him by the Senate (Which just so happened to be packed with his supporters after the Civil War left it dangerously depleted).
5) The reason he was Assassinated wasn't because of Cleopatra's influence but because the Roman Senate was so afraid of him becoming a King if he was allowed to continue. In fact, some source says that Ceaser wasn't even going to go to the Senate Meeting the day he was assassinated but he was tricked into going by a conspirator who said they were considering a law that would have allowed Ceaser to introduce himself as Rome's King while he's outside of Italy.
Sidenote: Rome tended to use the term Temple very loosely. Usually, they used it to mean some form of Public Building that the Senate was allowed to meet in due to a Tradition that had the Senate meet in Temples.
Plus, Caesar didn't go oriental during his fling with Cleopatra. Antony did. Romans wouldn't have minded him being close to Cleopatra. They already were familiar with Greeks by then.
Man, this is going to be a really long Lies episode
anyone really interested in Caesar's life, watch Historia Civilis channel
Sources?
@@gunnmansailo1341 Square legion, unite🙌
I understand that this is about Cleopatra but I highly doubt she influenced Ceasar that much. Especially, with the calendar.
I will agree she influenced Marc Anthony, heavily.
Especially since they skip over why Cleopatra's sister was exiled. To my knowledge Caesar took her as leverage over Cleopatra. As if to say, "if Cleopatra ever stepped out of line, I have a replacement ready and waiting."
You're seriously claiming that after centuries of Rome having varied year lengths, Ceasar just ACCIDENTALLY by literally magic, decided to make calendar exactly as long as Egyptian when... visiting Alexandria. SERIOUSLY?! XD Stop being so dumb, it's a historical fact that Julian reform was literally just adopting Egyptian 365-day calendar with Ptolemaic leap day.
Kasumi Rina The reformation of the Calendar was done with a Ptolemaic astronomer camping out with Caesar. You look too is absolutely correct - while its not necessarily Cleopatra’s doing, the new calendar was 98% Egyptian.
@@alexanderfurrows7946 thing is Ceasar already knew the calendar was fucked. You should look at a video called the longest year that goes over fixing the roman calendar
@@alexanderfurrows7946 go with nifty Roman names
Wasn't ceaser already Rome's high priest and therefore in charge of the calendar before he went to Egypt?
Yes, but I dont recall if he already made the Julian Calendar by then....
He did after
He was and the Romam month of _Quintilicus_ (QVINTILICVS) was named _Iulius_ (the English July) in honor of him.
I’m imagining Caesar as a *high* priest and I can’t stop laughing
Actually, they had to make 46 or 45 BCE extra long because Caesar hadn't been in Rome for years, and couldn't add days to the year manually in absentia, and the calendar had drifted like three months since Caesar had left for Gaul after his consulship.
The fan fiction that people will create are astonishing
You mean historical fiction?
To be fair, Shakespeare wrote a bloody well known piece of fanfic...
True
Just like in the game Assassins creed Origins
@@Matt-cz6ti well that's an oxymoron
As much as I like the idea of reframing the story of rome's civil wars around Cleopatra, there is no need to be so historically flippant when doing so. Caesar very well might have been framing himself as something of a "pharaoh", but his decisions to mess with the calendar, for example, were part of a long-established behavior as pontifex maximus. This wasnt new for Caesar.
He is actually just changing the vision to cleopatra they were both equally powerful to each other and used each other for power.
She “dunked” on Octavian
Also, wonder when Marc Antony was competent
Stijn vdb equally? Rome could subjugate Egypt on a whim
@@Ake-TL Octavius even slapped them around with Roman legions under their command.
Casar was a Roman Priest at the time. He was the Pontifex Maximus, the head of the Roman Priesthood.
I look forward to that ending up in Lies.
Yeah, I was about to say...
I bet all of the Historia Civilis fans are confused and fuming right now.
john pijano indeed lol
Yes!
We dont fume, we just spin in circles
@@Ironhold_Watch damm right
Square-up Extra Credits..I don’t care what Tribune Aquila says, I’m fighting U!
actually, the statue he erected was next to a lineup of the 7 kings of Rome and of the founder of the roman republic Lucius Junius Brutus.
I wonder why they left out that detail.
Then again, EC left out a bunch of finer details, like how Caesar was actually in charge of managing the Calendar long before he even became dictator.
The lies video will be long.... So many simplifications and colorizations i can't even count.
Can you tell us some mistakes this series made?
@@dylanrodrigues the reason for the killing of Caesar for example
@@dylanrodrigues Or Caesar not having the right to change the calendar, while he was actually the Pontifex Maximus, the highest high priest of Rome.
@@dylanrodrigues The idea that a) Caesar got the autocrat idea from Cleopatra is just wrong. Considering both Sulla and to a lesser extent Pompey did the similar things. Plus caesar actively undermined the Roman Republic from pretty much the start of his career.
B) the idea that caesar wasnt good at Politics, yeah he screwed up at the end. But if you think Caesar wasnt a skilled politician then you dont know roman history.
@@buriedalive3192 I was going to say that too! Didn't Mark Anthony go off running naked in one of Rome's religious ceremonies?
I wonder how long the “Lies” episode on this will be. (Thanks for the likes you guys, I didn’t expect to get this many.)
Very very long
Very lol
The worst part is only a fraction of the people who watch the main episodes will watch the "Lies" video and just walk away with this as the "truth" behind one of the most important time periods in world history.
This narrative of "Cleopatra was stronger than everyone" is complete and utter BS.
manband20 saying that she had Caesar basically under her thrall is such an insult to Caesar’s intelligence and power, indeed she was Julius’ and Rome’s thrall basically but due to their nature, antics and personality, he treated her with far more respect. But they and she especially, knew who really held the power.
@@pyrrhusofepirus8491 And saying that "Octavian had political cunning, unlike Caesar" is a MASSIVE insult to him. Sure, he had a massive ego and did blatantly stupid things that got him killed, but he was one of the most underhanded, sneaky assholes in antiquity.
The dude could have slaughtered the entire Senate and just given their money to the people to buy their loyalty, but instead he pardoned pretty much everyone who surrendered to him AND was most likely going to pardon Pompey when he picked him up from Egypt.
“Wrapped around her finger” ok yeah sure
However I’m not saying it’s not true for Antony. One of the main reasons he fell was because he couldn’t stop his lust for that hoochie, and Romans didn’t like foreign hoochies.
1:43 He was the cheif roman priest at the time, so you're saying he was doing his job? xD
Next episode Octavian’s gonna deliver a nuclear dunk
you might say the cleopatra´s ambitions end in a... shipwreck
The way they are writing these episodes, though, they're gonna say that she secretly owned him because she didn't get taken back to be sacrificed in Rome as apart of his Triumph.
I do not like that they are going to say that she owned Octavian.
Rome: exists
Egypth: exists
Germania: exists
Octavian: is.. for me?
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Bet they are not gonna mention Agrippa or Actium
@@paweandonisgawralidisdobrz2522 tfw germania takes your legions
Don’t forget lepidus. While he really wasn’t a major figure. He was more or less the burecrat keeping everything running in Rome doing the civil wars of Caesar and the Triumvirate
Her daughter Kleopatra Selene is actually one of my favourite females from history I recommend looking into her life :)
Look up her sister princess arsinoe
*women...
@@chantolove it's the same thing, no?
@@chantolove What are you on about it's the same thing
@@gameboyhotline3712 I feel like I heard that name before but thanks ! I'll for sure look into her!
I agree that Extra Credits should have been more careful with the word choice, they should not have exaggerated Cleopatra's influence, definitely remind that Caesar was also Pontifex Maximus but they are not downright misleading. Inspired by Cleopatra's astronomer Sosigenes, Caesar changed Roman lunisolar calendar by fixing its length to 365 days as in Egyptian calendar.
And, looking forward to theme song of the series. The hint of mysticism blending with oriental tone is beautiful.
Yeah, but I think he ws planning to do that before going to Egypt, Egypt just give him the best model ^^
They'll probably rectify that in the 'Lies' segment of the video series, but yeah this seems a little gormless and substandard from what I've come to expect from Extra Credits. I mean yeah, I get that Cleopatra takes center stage here but still...
demir I mean, there were a lot of Greek and Egyptian mixes so I’m not surprised that the astronomer was Greek.
One day, people will realize how many facts you bend to the narrative you have chosen to follow for a given topic.
Oh yeah, I know all about it. A few years ago, I gave an amazing presentation to an old class of mine on how facts can be bent to fit "the perfect narrative" and still be "technically true."
Ya, this series really made me think on what else they bent the narrative to since I’m such a huge fan of Roman history, especially the republic.
If anything thanks to Historia Civilis, it's fairly transparent in this case.
The Lies episode is gonna be really long for this series, and I’m only 2 minutes in
Wasn't Caesar Pontifex Maximus before he met Cleopatra
Yea
For 17 years before he met her
Yes he was. I just made a post about that
The characterization behind Caesar's assassination is so wrong....
I feel like EC made some really good points, actually. I think they overemphasized the religious aspect of the assassination. His obvious relationship with a Queen, in a Republic that he was dictator of, sounds extremely suspicious. He was also the father of a prince of Egypt, which meant that he was establishing his own line in a monarchy. EC underemphasized the political importance of the assassination.
However, Caesar was in charge of the calendar, since he was the Pontifex Maximus, head of Rome's priesthood (I think), so him fixing the calendar was actually his job.
There's a channel, Historia Civilis, that went over Caesar's assassination in an episode. I think it was rather fair, but it never really focused on the connections EC made.
So is your use of the ellipsis.
4:57 NO DONT PLAY WITH THE SNAKE! OH GOD HES WEARING AIRPODS HE CANT HEAR US
Exactly my mothers words to me😂🤣
I mean i get that they cant really side line the "main character" of the series but damn are they over exaggerating here influence
Unbiased history which is a work of satire of history is more complete and accurate than this series ever will
Yea, despite being entertaining, this series has shown to be a low point for the channel, too oversimplified, and often straight up inaccurate
lol just watch Dovanhatty rather than this melarky
This is getting less and less totally accurate
Not to mention they skipped a couple of important points in here in particular. The most prevalent being that, not unlike Aurelian sometime later, the assassinators of Caesar did not think their plan through enough. They were so interested in slaying a king in all but name, they forgot that the people still really liked Caesar, even if he made a few 'Un-Roman' faux pas. This is what helped make Octavian (later Augustus) and Marc Antony so powerful in defeating the assassins of Julius.
What was inaccurate. Just curious
Can you tell us some of the inaccuracies?
@@joinmarch76 Its cleopatra stories, not that of any of the various stabby romans.
@@ThomasstevenSlater Granted, but this is particularly relevant as to why Antony and Octavius were so successful, and why Cleopatra went all-in with Antony in particular.
To be fair, the calendar was already Caesars job. He was Pontifex Maximus, and thus already had the responsibility for monitoring the calendar.
Saying she had Caesar wrapped around her finger is just blatantly not true.
I know that we are supposed to be looking at things from Cleopatra's perspective but Caesar was the more powerful and dominant of the two in pretty much every way. The series feels a lot like glorifying Cleopatra with the truth of the circumstances thrown by wayside to do so.
Also, overplaying the power of Cleopatra ignores the patriarchy of Rome.
“Beware the Ides of March!”
Ceaser “Pfft Whatever!”
Cleopatra: Destroyer of the Bro-Code.
Well... I mean. Caesar is dead?
Cesar was not out of line with his religious movements, and the way he made the calendar. That was the job of the Pontifex Maximus. Which Cesar was
Had previous Pontifex Maximi deified themselves so much like Caesar did?
@@fearedjames
Why are you talking about calendars? I didn't say anything about calendars. I asked if previous Pontifex Maximi had deified themselves like Caesar did.
@@cometmoon4485 No, because Caesar didn't deify himself. He King'd himself. Caesar never pretended to be a God. In fact, he said that he wasn't a God, because the only Kings the Roman Republic had were the Gods.
@@cometmoon4485 he didn't. he was moving towards being a king but there was nothing he did that was trying to portray himself as a god
Julius Ceasar was totally justified reforming the calender because he was the Pontifix Maximus, just because he wasn't a priest doesn't mean much.
The Pontifex Maximus is the Great Priest, it's even a title of the Pope ^^
So, yeah, Julius Caesar was definitely a priest ;)
BIG BOY AGRIPPA NEXT EPISODE SHATTERS DIDO’S REINCARNATION
What a lad
1:20 - "Then on the advice of Cleopatra's Astronomer, he rematched Rome's Lunar Calendar too match Egypt's Solar Calendar, the one used by the world today"
*Sad Gregorian Calendar noises*
This story keeps feeling more like game of thrones then I ever expected it to be. Not in the bad way, just wow.
History is actually kinda like that in a lot ways
George didn't just use the War of the Roses as inspiration.
redditors reading history be like:
1:40 : Julius Caesar was pontifex maximus since -63. He was technically in charge of the calendar long before he changed it. Therefore it is kind of inaccurate to qualify it as "seizing control of a role reserve to Roman priest" : he was a priest, it was his role.
"a cunning that Caesar lacked"? are you kidding me on that one. The civil war would have been avoided in its entirety if Cato wasn't so goddamn stubborn. He made compromises and really only wanted to be the most famous person in the history of ever. The irony is that he really only wanted to Consul again so that he would not be prosecuted by the Senate and executed or thrown in prison. He also was one of the best orators of his time and was able to sway the hearts of both the general population and soldiers constantly. If the conservatives had just played ball instead of being afraid of their own dwindling power this probably never happens
T Hakenson literally the first triumvirate was one of the smartest political moves in a long while as it really made passing reforms much easier
@@SquidsAgainstChickens especially if you consider the amount of pushback the gracchi brothers dealt with before him
T Hakenson especially
How was he a god emperor if he was never an emperor.
To be fair he was an emperor in all but name towards the end.
Andrea Dobos well yeah...
Enter Augustus, the eastern witch vanisher!
Dont worry dovhhatty followers, Octavian will save us in the next episode.
OH COME ON!! «Caesar seized control of the calendar to fashion himself a god-emperor» This is a complete misreading of history. Caesar was Pontifex Maximus and had been so for about years even before crossing the Rubicon. He was already in charge of the calendar. Did he change it substantially? Yes, but that was his right as Pontifex Maximus. He didn’t do it to become a pharoh, and the senators that killed him on the ides would have been way more concerned with other reasons to kill him than a calendar reform
This series is definitely in need of some fact checking. It's just wrong in so many ways. And all that aside, are they ever going to mention the primary reason that all these Roman political figures were trying to keep Egypt onside? Grain! Not some fantasy of Mary Sue Cleopatra! Bring on a veeeerrryy long and hopefully historically accurate episode of Lies for this series.
Tobius Gregory and alexandria was a very rich city and every empire wants the richest city in the Mediterranean
And Gold. Egypt was stupid wealthy.
The narrative of Caesar fashioning himself as a god-emperor was the breaking point for me. He was fashioning himself as an emperor but never as one of the deities of Rome.
He was portrayed as a power grabby asshole here, which is arguable but he certainly respected Rome's political institution and instead just cleverly worked his way into the system.
Fun fact: we dont use the julian calendar anymore. As its like 50 years out pf date. Its the gregorian now
No, believe it’s only 13 days off
She had the most powerful man in Rome at her feet huh? Funny how that man didn’t win the civil war.
A single man does not win a war. Caesar was more powerful than any of the men who stabbed him but...
He was already pontifix maximus so he had the calendar duty anyway
Wasnt caesar in charge of keeping the roman calendar accurate before the civil war because over time the calendar would drift and then October would end up being in the summer
I mean, ceaser was in control of the calander for quite a while before he took complete control of rome.
And let's not forget how he used it to cross in Greece with his army because Bibulus thought it was winter while Caesar knew that it was still autumn
Cleopatra was the descendant of Hellenic Greek colonists.
Caeser introduced the Julian calendar, which was the basis for the Gregorian calendar, which is what most of the world uses today.
2:15 Actually, the Senators hated Ceasar because he started acting more like a king, not because of Cleopatra, she was in Egypt at the time. And in the Roman REPUBLIC, Kings are not welcome, and the tensions actually increased because one day Marc Antony, for some reason, he declared his superior ( Ceasar) king of Rome, and you what happened next. the Et tu Brute thing
The series is on CLEOPATRA. NOT CEASAR
@@mayukhmitra5819 That however is not a reason to present abjectly incorrect information
Cleopatra's influence on Caesar was one aspect of the Senate's objections to him, some of which went back to the Gallic Wars.
It's completely fair to say that the Cleopatra union was A reason, but EC goes too far in trying to frame the civil war around Cleopatra, stating that she is THE reason.
@@chillin5703 thats why i am a history buff
I have some words for the lies portion of this series...
Love the lil UFO in the history wall background. 🛸
love this cleopatra personality quite suited for royalty
Hate to see this series downgraded so much, but you are excessively overplaying the amount of control Cleopatra had over matters. She had little to no control of Caesar, proven by the fact the Caesarion was not even a proposed secondary heir in Caesar's will. Secondly, if Caesar had wanted to conquer Egypt Cleopatra woukd have not been able to stop him. Thirdly it's very inaccurate to say suggest that Cleopatra played any role in the calendar shift. Caesar was the Pontifex Maximus (Head priest) of Rome and since the Roman's used a lunar calendar it was Caesar's job to always add a few days to the calender to keep it from drifting out of order, which by this time it had. Caesar consulted an Egyptian priest and not Cleopatra on this matter. For all who want a much clearer picture of things from Caesar's perspective and reasoning behind his actions, ahould go and watch Historia Civilis.
@Shreyas Misra ehhh no
I’d love a episode on the 1916 easter rising
0:12 Octavian (to Cleo): I will turn your face to alabaster, when you find your servant is your master. And you'll be wrapped around my finger.
5:59 Meeting occurred in Tarsus and the gate she pass through still there :)
1:29 I'm pretty sure that we use the Gregorian Calendar, and not the Julian Calendar ;)
The Julian calendar is what gave us the Gregorian calendar
True, but the gregorian callendar is just a tiny modification to the Julian callendar, removing 3 leap years every 400 years. in every other way they're identical
The difference between the 2 are 10.8 minutes each year, almost identical.
@@hkchan1339 a small difference is still a difference
Antony was not a seasoned general. In fact, by this time, he had relatively little command experience at all. He had served under Caesar during the end of the Gallic wars, and during the civil war, but was often sidelined or used as a political pawn in Rome while Caesar was away. When he did actually command forces in pitch battles, he didn't exactly have a great record of winning.
Glad Extra Credits finally mentioned Augustus. I think hes way more interesting than Julius, Antony, and Cleopatra combined. Definitely needs his own series.
@1:45 a God emperor? THE SPICE MUST FLOW
"Has the Mediterranean's greatest man at her feet"
Spoiler alert: this won't age well.
_Agrippa noises intensifies_
0:10 God I hate my brain...
Why do I feel that EC's story telling and narratives became less...idk...Accurate? I mean their old videos about Justinian and Theodora or about Suleiman where far less made so it could fit a narrative , but rather centered on the deeds (both good and bad) of the rulers. It's just not the same bruh.
Justinian and theodara are a better power couple
Caesar already had control of the calendar, that was one of his jobs as Pontifex Maximus
It’s ironic because I’m learning Ancient Egypt History. 😂
Was waiting for this episode!!!
Point of correction 1:43 Ceasars was elected Pontifex Maximus, the High priest of Roman. One of the duties of Pontifex Maximus was to add dates to the year so the roman calendar didn't drift. Your assertion is factually wrong that Ceasars made a power grab with the calender.
Wait a minute he was already in charge of the calendar because he was the pontiff maximis if remember my roman republic study's correctly It's the whole reason why he was able to cross The mediterranean into Greece without bibulous catching him Because since he was the pontifex Maximus he was the only one who actually knew the true changing of the months as opposed to everyone else
Looks like you have been watching Historia Civilis channel. I wouldn't blame you, they are pretty good
That and I am takeimg an ancient civ class for my dagree
Now you're doing a series on something I studied, I can really tell how much historical accuracy for entertainment and glorification.
The lack of Warhammer fans appearing after he said “God Emperor” is disturbing
Eastern Witchcraft as its best, Dido was really mad beyond death
Cleopatra's story is a good reminder of just how differently history could've turned out if only a few things had gone differently.
Europe was 2000 years behind on women's rights because of a fucking naval battle! Had Egypt won, we'd be able to own businesses like in Ancient Egypt instead of not even allowed to inherit stuff until 20th century.
@@KasumiRINA You don't know much about history do you?
@@KasumiRINA ... and that, is why i cant take ppl who like extra credits seriously
7:56 I see what you did there😏
Yea looks like ya made the wrong choice there not picking Augustus
Octavian wouldd NEVER side with her, she was the mother of another caesar son... that wont do. The child MUST die.
If she tried backing Octavian things might have gone even worse for her or at least they couldn't have gone much better. The mistake wasn't picking Marc Anthony, the real mistakes were made during the civil war that followed.
@@dragatus the real mistake was triyng to manipulatee roman politics, begin a foreginer, a monarch, and without bareely understanding them.
Thats why i feel kind of disapointeed for thee poeple who still think on her as a genius, she wasnt. She was on the correct moment and place, and even that expired quickly
Mark Antony was one of history's biggest simps
(in the distance, Agrippa's just standing there... MENACINGLY!)
1:41 well caeser was the pontiffs maximus or the headpriest
Love this series keep up the good work
Not a really accurate series. A lot of bending for the narrative.
Great video series, also was wondering if you could do a video on Alexander Humboldt: famous for his travels in south america and his volumes called Kosmos.
I wouldn't say that Cleo had Caesar around her finger, it was a mutually beneficial relationship constructed by the intelligent leaders
2:16 Dictator had a pretty different meaning back then, this is a minor mistake but I think "King in the making" would've fit better as that's what most anti Caesar people considered Caesar was, and Rome had a pretty big dislike for kings
And as many stated down here, Caesar was in charge of the calendar for a long time, as Pontifux Maximus.
And did't he update the calendar not just because of power, but also because the Roman calendar was really messy and often incorrect, unlike the Julian Calendar, which was a combination of the old Roman, with the addition of the fixed length of the Egyptian Calendar and the
And most countries don't use the Julian Calendar today, most of the modern world uses the Gregorian Calendar, with some exceptions like the Serbian Orthodox Church which still uses the Julian Calendar, (and thus for example Christmas falls on the 7th of January in the Gregorian Calendar (which is the 25th of December in the Julian Calendar)), and other Orthodox Churches like that of Georgia and Ukraine.
I'm so excited for part 4 I don't wanna wait
Honestly I think the big thing people forget about Cleopatra is that she was the ruler of Egypt. Not Rome. Her buddying up with Caesar and Antony was always about keeping Egypt secure and independent, not trying to take over or control Rome.
You forgot that Caesar for a long time had been Pontifax Maximus, allowing him control over Rome's religious matters
If you want a far more accurate series on Caesar check out Historia Civilis. Its a channel with far more love for accuracy over spectacle and doesn't skimp on details. For instance. Caesar was already Pontifex Maximus, Rome's Chief Priest who was already in charge of the calendar. This had nothing to do with Cleopatra.
Cleopatra: helps Marc Anthony
Octavian: I‘m gonna end this couples whole career
Your video mentions Caesar’s reformation of the calendar as a power grab from the priests, but it WAS his job to balance the calendar. Caesar was elected Pontiff Maximus(head priest) fairly early in his political career. As pontiff he was personally in charge of keeping the calendar updated. He did neglect those duties during the Gaelic Wars and the Civil War though, and because of the resulting drift it gave him an edge in his invasion of Greece during the civil war. The Julian calendar reforms was a simple way of automating the process so that nobody in the future could neglect it like he did.
It should be noted that Julius Caesar could do what he did to the Roman calendar because he was the Pontifex Maximus, which was Rome's highest elected religious official and it was a lifetime position. With a calendar 3 months out of alignment due to being out of the country for close to 15 years Caesar did the smart thing by fixing it with the leap year system .
I love how happy the snake looks in that last shot. "Yes! Poison time!"
I Like How That The Same Three People Has the Middle Person Perching with his Two Hands over the Other Two People.
While Cleopatra definitely had strong influence on Caesar, we shouldn't exaggerate that influence either. It's fully possible that Cleopatra encouraged Caesar to become a dictator, but it's also worth remembering that a generation before Caesar, Lucius Cornelius Sulla had started a civil war for personal reasons, marched on Roma, installed himself as dictator with no term limit, and executed and banished all of his personal enemies. I think Caesar probably was at least influenced by that as by Cleopatra. Especially since he had been one of those enemies Sulla had banished
Cant wait to Next episode of Extra History
" a role reserved for roman priests" @1:43 - um, caesar was the pontifex maximus, the highest priest in rome, which was an elected position that he obtained many years earlier
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That was a vicious, mean, and unprovoked attack.
7:13 Antony's face
Caesar wasn't "a dictator in the making" when he was assassinated, he had been declared dictator in 49 and 48 BCE, for a ten year period in 46 BCE, and for life a month before his assassination in 44 BCE.
All this dynasty stuff is beckoning me towards ck3 again
The calendar was a responsibility of a high priest. But ceaser was that high priest and the old calendar needed a man to take care of it. Ceaser could not do it for a while when he was in gal so he learned from the past and otomated it