Mercury Pro XS 115** Ready-Set-Don't GO! Broken Boat Diaries PT I
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- čas přidán 2. 06. 2021
- This an overview of the problems I'm currently having with my 2020 Mercury Pro XS, and the actions that are being taken to get it back on the water! Please like, and share your broken boat stories! Hopefully we get her back on the water and there are some fishing videos to follow! Thanks, have a good day
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I had a 2021 250 Pro XS on order until Mercury Australia pulled the rug out from under its dealers a few weeks ago. I had it on order for the last 8 months to be told that it might, might be supplied by March 2022. Unfortunately I believe on paper the Mercury V8 should have a much better torque potential than all it’s competitors in the naturally aspirated versions. But I did have concerns for reliability so I’m not too disappointed that my engine has fallen through and I have swapped it for a Yamaha instead. On a side note my previous PRO XS blew up on its maiden run before it even left the dealership. Mercury will more than likely get you there quicker but possibly not back again. Sorry to my American friends that stand behind their manufacturing industries but I think the Japanese are hard to beat for reliability of their products whether they’re bikes boats or cars.
sorry to hear about that, got same 2021 with just under 40hrs, so far so good. So that life is not too good, the trim switch at the throttle lever died. Should be fixed early next week. Thanks god its been raining for last 4 days otherwise i would be pissed. hope you get your motor sorted.
Check to see if you have that gray fuel line! Seeing a lot of videos on the liner inside the gray lines deteriorating and clogging the fuel filter. Your boat is acting the same way the ones are in other videos. That’s where I’d start. Good luck!
I'm going to say it's fuel delivery. I've heard of a few instances of poor line routing and lines getting pinched. I'm expecting mine to deliver within the next couple weeks and that is the first thing I'm inspecting for. Check your tank for debris as well. Most likely you're able to charge the fuel line with enough to get a couple minutes of good run time but a restriction is causing you to starve out.
I have had my Mercury 115 ProXS on my Ranger for 3 years without a problem🤞. I also think it’s something with the fuel intake. Unfortunately every manufacturer is susceptible to problems. Hopefully this gets solved quickly.
Had a very similar problem with a Ranger RT 188. It had a Yamaha engine. Turned out to be the vent on the gas tank not allowing air in as the fuel was sucked out by the motor. This created a vacuum in the fuel tank and starved the engine for fuel. The engine would die and would only run at idle speed.
Agree Ben, 99% of the time it's a fuel problem and if it ain't sucking air a vacuum will form and down she goes. I never tighten my tank cap I leave it loose just for this reason. Start there and work yourself to the lines filter and pump, it's all about fuel as I can tell.
I had a problem with my 2018 Honda 115 running and stalling out. I hooked the fuel line to a portable tank and motor ran fine. Went back to the boats fuel line and my problem came back. I now have 415 hours on my motor and only occasionally do I have the stall out problem. Whatever is in the tank has thankfully taken a vacation.
Thanks, just bought a new boat with the same motor. Hopefully it won’t have the same problems . Something to watch for, again thanks for the heads up!
Good luck! I wouldn’t wish a finicky boat motor on anyone. I’m sure she’ll do fine
@@Jason114752 has the issue been fixed?
@@youtuber19435 Mercury put on a new fuel supply module and it worked great for a few hours! The motor crapped out on me in Lake Michigan, but we made it back safely. I was able to find that air had gotten in the fuel line. I pushed the air and fuel through by using the release on the fuel rail. Took it back out and it ran great. It is possible that all of this stems from some type of fuel plumbing issue. Hard to say, but at least the dang thing has been working 👍🏻
@@Jason114752 I watched a video from Born Again Boating channel and they spoke about air in the fuel line causing fuel delivery problems to the fuel pump.
Check the fuel tank vent and the anti back flow valve in the tank vent line, if its not installed properly it can stop air from flowing thus stopping fuel flow..
First, if you are taking it to a shop and they aren’t fixing it, that’s your shop’s fault. Find another shop. I just got done diagnosing a similar problem on my 2017 pro xs (115hp). It was the anti back flow valve (ASM valve) on the tank. Hard to diagnose but easy to replace. Part was $125.
I have the same engine and having similar issues. Would you happen to have a part number or point me in the direction where you got this part? @kimfoster9196
I’ve 930 hours on mine without issue. I’d say in the first video, you’ve got smoke coming out her. Could be too much oil or not burning the fuel. Other videos it looks like a fuel restriction for sure. It’s not going to be a limp mode or it would alarm. I’d get a VesselView mobile for it and see what that says. One video sounds like the fuel pump is running dry or something.
I talked to a fisherman at the boat ramp that was sponsor by Mercury and he was running a 250 Pro XS with the same problem, he said he keeps having to change out the fuel throttle position sensor and there is a major supply issue.
just follow the lines unhook them at every point if you have a ball press it see if good flow if it is move on to next fitting.. if its old lines replace them
I have the same motor and never had a problem maybe it a fuel line from the boat tank or the tank breather are restricted
i had same problem. its past the fuel filter it might look alright but its not
Bought the Ranger 1888 WT with Evinrude E-Tec G2'S. Motors run great! Nothing but problems with the boat. 36 issues and counting, going back to the shop for the third time. We've only used it for half a season and we've had it since 2018.
I feel your pain. It gets embarrassing to even talk about it
Have you had any major issues with your Ranger Boat? Curious to find out if maybe, by some chance, we got a defective one.
@@bunkie1850 I’ve had to change the fuse for my tilt and trim access at the bow. My bilge is currently on the fritz. Aside from that it’s been working like a charm. If I didn’t have the motor power loss problems I’d be very happy with the boat. Mercury and Ranger need to hash this out! What kind of issues have you been experiencing?
@@Jason114752 well, let's start with the at the dealership... skeg was banged up because the mechanic didn't raise the motor before hauling the boat, trailer cover ($1,000 extra) tore on the 6 hour ride home. The week following the purchase we were due to leave for Canada... Road armor paint peeling off, brakes lines broke the day before a trip to Canada and three more times on the way there. Screws falling out of the steering wheel while riding across the lake, as well as the transom and various other places, windshield wouldn't close (still doesn't after being fixed), dry wells do not hold water out even after having the seals replaced (they had big chunks cut out), electric plugs put in upside down as well as the plug covers, one speaker didn't work (they did fix that), gas gauge wasn't working and isn't again (told that wasn't plugged in the first time), sealant dripping away from drainage ports, screws and metal shavings in the hull, bilge pump wouldn't work and isn't working again after being replaced, livewell and baitwell don't operate properly (sometimes they don't fill, they drain when on recirculate, then won't drain when you engage the drain, the cables were rusted and broken, leaves left behind the panel where the switches are for operating the wells), boat hull fills with water (real problem when the bilge doesn't work), transom saver cracked, motor auto trims when auto trim is turned off, motor won't trim up all the way at once (you have to trim it till it stops then wait a few seconds or minutes to finish trimming), some type of warning comes up on the depth finder about reconnecting the powerhead of the motor to keep from losing data, carpet around the jump seats coming apart, stapling coming out of the bottom of the jump seats, vinyl flooring peeling up, the pad the electric trolling motor sits on is cracked and peeling up, paint is bubbling, steering rod between the motors; 1st was damaged by rubbing the boat and 200 hp and 15hp motors (caused damage to the motors as well), steering rod 2 broke in half, steering rod 3 has held up but still rubbing the boat, it's minor but the wiring from the motor to the boat came in a fish net style tubing instead of the hard plastic corrugated tube that it's supposed to. I'm sure I'm forgetting some of the issues. But yeah, 2 trips to the shop and still a ton of issues, the biggest problem being on the water and the bilge constantly not working while taking on water is a dangerous scenario. Due for the final trip to the shop on the 30th. Hoping they call it a lemon and give us our money back. We're done with dealing with it. I did love the inboard cooler and the motors. Those G2'S were awesome! 51mph and on plane in less than 2 seconds. I don't know why they stopped production on the evinrude G2's, I know everyone has their favorites and for different reasons but those motors are awesome for the short time we got to run them. Oh and just unhappy with the wet ride the boat provides in any chop. It doesn't push water down and out the way a boat should. They also need to add a place to stow the rain fly.
@@bunkie1850 brother, I hope everything works out for you. I’ve made mistakes before and always take ownership! Hopefully someone takes ownership and you get compensated.
Mercury should replace fuel high pressure pump and low pressure pump . Check tank vent and all fuel lines , injections . Next probably can be computer problem or some sensor check by computer or with multimeter .
I think it's either electrical issue a plug on the motor somewhere coming loose or not connected well maybe a vent tube stopped up on the gas tank
I recently picked up my new 2023 VS1782 with a 115 pro xs and took it out for the first time this weekend. I got about 200 meters from the dock and maybe 3 to 4 mins of run time at idle waiting for my wife to park the trailer. Then as soon as i got on the throttle I had the exact same issue of the motor dying like it was out of gas. Just got off the phone with the dealer they seemed a bit skeptical as they swore up and down they went through everything twice and never had an issue in their test tank. We will see what they find and say the issue is.
I’m so sorry to hear this. I hope that this gets resolved quickly. I had this awesome trip planned with mine, just couldn’t trust it enough to make it. Good luck 🍀
90% of the time it’s a rigging issue. Seems like it’s running out of gas
I had a 2010 Mercury 115 Opti, I know it was a 2 stroke but brand new out of the box, the 3 coils and power packs were bad, took 2 trips to the shop but finally they replaced them all and for 11 years, ran like a champ, With that said, yours sounds like it being starved of gas, as others have said, check the entire fuel system, you could have a bad fuel line from ethanol, or a block air vent. To check this, buy a cheap 6 gallon tank and fuel line from Walmart, run it straight into the engine and see if that fixes it and work backward, good luck. I feel your frustration
Haha, had less than 30 hours when this one went bad on me! Once in the middle of Lake Erie
You have fuel issues. That's a boat manufacturer issue or dealer rigging issue. 3 gallon fuel tank directly to the motor to test. Unfortunately the engine manufacturer always gets blamed for issues on the boat side. Remember, engine manufacturers have no control on who installs their motors on whatever boat and what quality that is fine at. Good luck.
This one might be on Mercury. They replaced the fuel sending module and I’ve had several hours of good performance. I took it to a Ranger/Mercury just in case it was a manufacturer issue. Hopefully that was it, she’s going out on Lake Michigan in a few days!! Thanks for the feedback 🤙🏻
I had the exact same problem with a 60hp Mercury 4 stroke. Problem ended up being the low pressure fuel pump. The plastic diaphragm inside the fuel pump would fall apart and little pieces of clear plastic, 1/8" to 1/4" in size, would lodge in the VST tank elbows. The plastic would move around inside the elbows so depending on how much it restricted the fuel flow the motor would work fine, other times it would barely run, sometimes it would not start at all. I am not familiar with the 115hp motor so I can't say if this is your problem but something I would check out. To fix I had to replace the low pressure fuel pump and pull off the fuel lines and VST tank. Remove the VST tank cover and blow out all the fittings and lines with a compressor, the plastic is really hard to see and get out sometimes so you need to be thorough. This happened multiple times with my motor, about every 2 years. I spoke with Mercury about it and their response was just to change the fuel pump more often...
They replaced both pumps on mine. Right now she’s going strong 💪. Super good on fuel too
I had a couple of 115's. I don't think I will ever own another mid range motor if I can help it. That 90-125 is usually on boats that are really close to 150 size boats and it just seems to be an issue.... boats will always be an issue to some degree, but for my money I am going to try to be in the 150 market. Above that the price is so high now it's getting out of reach for a lot of us
Totally agree
Sounds like a fuel issue to me. Are you using non ethanol gasoline and if not be sure to treat the fuel. ethanol is very bad as it separates and makes water in the fuel and believe me this will create all sorts of problems such you are experiencing as well as corrosion within your fuel system. hope this helps
I have a 2020 115 pro xs I am loosing rpms and top end speed, can only get it up to 5350 rpms when engine was new was turning 6000 rpms. And it’s using a ton of fuel burns like 10 gallons of fuel only to go 20 miles. Used to get double that. Don’t really know what to do , the dealer says every boat and motor is different, and it’s how it is.
I can’t get over 5300 either, I may need a different prop to get up there. It’s rated for 6300. It shouldn’t be using that much fuel unless you’re max RPM and the boat is heavy as hell! Did you change or modify anything?
its a fuel issue nothing else dont mess with too many things
Have you fixed it. Try two things . Try the shift switch shift sensor. Unsure of correct name. Or trim sensor it will go into lemp
Mercury replaced a fuel sending module or something and it ended up being the thing. I also suspected some type of air leak in the fuel system.
I've got the same motor. I had a recall on the IAC valve
The dealership replaced the Fuel Supply Module and I had it out on the lake with no issues. Still have some serious trust issues, hopefully we’re good now though.
Yeah, me too I hope
I have 60 hours on my 2019 pro xs 115 and just started having the exact same problem, what was the final diagnosis?
They replaced a fuel sending module or something like that. I think it was an air leak somewhere around the tank
How many hours on the motor? What kind of gas are you using? What kind/pitch prop? What warranty work? What does dealer say? If you had a broken ECU, your engine wouldn't run. Dealer should be all over this problem. If not, then contact Mercury.
The motor started experiencing this type of failure at 25 hours if I remember correctly. I have a vented 19 pitch prop supplied by the dealer.
I just got it back and put it on the lake today and made that dang thing scream for a while to see if I could shake anything loose! It was windy, wavy, and kinda poopy out but it did its job finally. The dealer had it out on the lake several times and eventually changed the Fuel Supply Module, a fairly expensive part.
I have a 2017 115 Pro XS. It has been flawless other than some prop slippage issues. Agree fuel starvation. What happened in the end?
They replaced the high pressure fuel pump and the regular fuel pump and that sorted it out. I’m glad yours is holding up. I sold it to a guy in Minnesota or Wisconsin and he said it’s going strong.
I have a similar problem it give 6 beeps and then shut off. 8 hours on The engine 2021 mercury 115.
I’m sorry to hear that man. Documenting the failure helped when getting warranty work done. Continue to share what happens with your boat. I hope that Mercury will take a look at this and fix some of their problems and emplace strict guidance for installation of their motors
I have the blue hydrostream viper on CZcams waiting to be rigged , just ordered a 2021 pro xs 115 and this is one of the first videos I have seen with problems on this motor ! I got a little concerned watching until the end these new motors are so high tech it may have a few things to work through to dial them in even though they are new , just remember they are being built during the pandemic ?
Good luck with the new motor! Can’t really give a free pandemic pass when you’re dropping 12k on a motor! Anyhow, I hope everything goes your way 👍🏻 tight lines bro 😎
@@Jason114752 Definitely no free passes !
You won’t be sorry!!
Fuel problem running out gas
Getting ready to order my new lund ...I have the choice of the mercury 4 stroke 90..115 or 115xs. Looking for best experienced advice on best way to go. Leaning towards standard 115. Thoughts?
115 Pro XS for sure. I genuinely believe I was just unlucky and most Mercury motors are good. I’ve been using the hell out of mine recently and having a great time. Good luck 🍀 friend , I hope everything goes well
@@Jason114752 still do not know the true difference between the 2. Going to drive 3 hours to dealer tomorrow to order and hopefully find out more. Thanks.
115 XS Pro, it's a beast!
@@bryanminnick713 that's what I bought! Thanks.
Bet you wish you got a Yamaha mate, far out i was almost considering a new boat with a 115 merc not now.
I’ve had my 115 running good for a few months and I’m not totally convinced it was the motor. I believe there were fuel delivery issues (not Mercurys fault) that caused the problem. I think the service centers aren’t incentivized to fix the actual problem, the more they fix the more they get paid. Knowing what I know now I would still buy a Mercury. Whatever you decide to do, good luck bro 🍀
your fuel not getting to the engine. unclamp the fittings pump your ball see where its clogging up. could be the vst filter after the fuel filter. take it off blow some compressed air through it.
I did some initial troubleshooting and saw no indication of any problems. This model doesn’t have the traditional primer bulb, it’s all electric and out of my wheelhouse haha. It’s brand new and under warranty so I’m having the Ranger/Mercury dealer fix it. Thanks for the feedback bro 🤘🏼
@@Jason114752 Lolol alright that’s a good thing ! All computers man they’ll know right away. Even the coil packs on these things are ridiculous one colt told two cylinders really annoying. They hook it up to the comp and will know if it’s electrical. Tight lines brother I’m going fishing
I have a brand new 2021 Ranger RT 188P
Got it home and they didn’t even rig my electrical correctly, battery charger wasn’t even installed completely, only thing that did work was the battery was hooked so the motor would turn. After spending 2 hours doing a FaceTime walk through on how to wire everything up. I live 5 hours from the dealership. Get the boat out on the water, my gauges suck ass, either they aren’t correctly installed or what……… the indicator needles bounce back and forth like Mathew McConaughy is trying to contact me through Morris Code. Would I give them back this boat………..Fuck Yeah! Gone Fishing in Dixon sucks too.
Sorry about the boat! Probably going to watch Interstellar later tho lol 😂
I don't see any updates on your problem, fixed not fixed? What was the resolution?
Mercury replaced both fuel pumps. Everything works fine now. I honestly think it was an air leak the entire time.
@@Jason114752 glad you are up and running. Boating stress sucks. lol...
I was told in 1985 If you want to get there fast get a mercury, if you want to get there and back get a Yamaha. Have not had any problems since.
I have also heard that lol
When did you start making you tube videis????
I made a few last year. Just bought a 26’ sailboat and will make more once the weather is better here. Good to hear from you
test it with a portable fuel tank
ecu failure
The Mercury guys had it out on the lake a few days ago and believe it is a lift pump. We’ll see! Getting pretty old storing my boat at the mechanic shop
brand new doesnt mean anything we have shit gas. make sure you put premium gas i put a small amount of seafoam in 60 litres every fill. dealers will say its not good but theyre bullshitting you to buy the mercury bullshit stuff that doesnt work. its a simple fix bro. even the smallest buildup will cause the engine to starve eventually higher or lower rpm depending on how bad it is . i did a sea foam flush in the driveway. . dont use seafoam if under warranty i think it voids it lol. but my dads merc 90hp efi 2005 has had no issues for 2010 when we started doing it. before then i would always get the same issues. exactly the same. starts out higher rpm then if i didnt clean out the VST filter i think is what its called little compression type filter past the actual fuel filter. might be different on your engine. but its a simple fix.
follow the fuel
That boats never seen the trim button
So, initially I was like this guy is a butthead. But in the name of science I trimmed the heck outta my motor on the lake and hit 6200 rpm. So ahhh, there’s that haha 😂. Thanks bro 🤙🏻
I learned they hard way too brother! The video helped me though make a decision, thanks! Hope things get squared away!
Also you dont buy ranger Aluminum boats. if you want a Ranger you buy fiberglass. Lund, crestliner, hewescraft for aluminum boats.....Also pro xs ARE TRASHHHH
Just Mercury pro xs problems lol. Should have gotten Yamahas
Get a Yamaha sho or the Suzuki ss. Mercury's are nothing but problems. Imo.
Fishing is not fun if you have a Mercury motor!!!
From what I've been hearing, better get a suzuki or a yamaha. Sorry
I have a mercury 115 xs pro. Had it 1 year 2 months. She's always started as soon as you turn the key. Now she's not wanting to start. I have to put in neutral give it some gas try a few times it will crank. I can hear the fuel pump kick on every time I turn the key. But it acts like it's not getting gas. Any help???
Sorry to hear about this. I agree, probably not getting fuel. There may air in the line from some bad connection in your fuel line. On the starboard side of your motor is a fuel rail and on it is a little black cap. You can turn your key and let the pump prime the line and depress the little pin beneath the black cap. Gasoline will come out so take the proper precautions. I’ve done this a few times and it reprimes the line and removes air. That is not a permanent solution though. My top three guesses, air leak, faulty pump, gas cap vent. Please let me know what you find out
@Jason114752 thank you so much. It's under warranty I called dealer supposed to take it in next Sat.
@@Jason114752 can you believe I just now put a new gas filter on it. It purrs like a kitten. Problem solved.
@@scottcozart8950 it’s often something simple. Happy to hear you solved the problem