BRAND BATTLE! SUZUKI 150 SS vs. MERCURY 150 PRO XS (2022)
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- BRAND BATTLE! SUZUKI 150 SS vs. MERCURY 150 PRO XS (2022)
Never has there been a closer battle than this! The stout 150 SS Suzuki vs the tried and true Mercury Pro XS. Who do you got ? Comment below and let us know. Performance vs Reliability!
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Great explanation on your choices as always. When are we going to see a top 5 or 10 multi species boat list for us walleye/musky guys?
I want a 115/140hp brand battle. Zuke, yammy, tohatsu, Honda, merc!
Andy, Thank you for your recommendations on the Suzuki 250SS. I bought the outboard a year ago last September for a repower on my Champion 203 DC and I am really happy with the motor. Andy gave me a phone call to check on me and the motor at the time I was on the lake for its first test run. Because I was in Louisiana and due to the Covid outbreak I was not able to buy the motor from him but he still gave me a call to check on me. What a great guy! Thanks again Andy.
You are welcome Tracy! Thanks buddy!!
That was some great points. Thxs
For the suzuki rigging try using generous amounts of baby powder on the cables as you run them through the grommet. This might help as a dry lubricant.
Andy Andy🤓I've been asking for the trolling motor battle over 100 times😜but I forgot that you don't work on trolling motors😂😂😂Still loving the battles😁
Whoa, yeah - Charging systems video would be fantastic - Thanks for all the time and effort you put into the vids!
Oh and; this video is very helpful, I'm weighing the 115 versions of these motors and you answered my questions. Reliability, reliability and reliability
Likewise.
Is there much of a difference between the regular motors and the SS motors or pro xs.
It would be awesome to see a brand battle for on-board chargers!
I had a 150 hp optimax and it was a good motor. I reported with a Suzuki 225 and I freaking love it. So damn quiet and seems to be a very powerful motor. I know it’s a big difference in horsepower, but the Suzuki seems like a very strong running machine. So far I am impressed.
Doing great Andy! Thanks for asking. Probably because I retired this year. Lol Love the content!
Glad you're doing good Kirk! Keep on keeping on
Great vid!
Slightly off subject….any idea when smaller Suzuki’s (40-50hp specifically) will be available again.
My team partner Already had to replace tilt/trim on his 150 4 stroke Mercury on his nitro.
Ballpark figure to replace motor with Suzuki 150 & re rig ?
Hey Andy, which manufacturers come stock with a Suzuki? For example if I go out and buy a new bass boar?
Merc has a 6yr warranty where I am. That 3.0L block is supposedly very reliable and makes good power to. Haven't run either brand but the 150ss and 150proXS are on the cards when I upgrade the boat.
does Suzuki have anything like the "merc monitor", I use the merc mon to check my maintenance and data and alarms as well as use it for Great Lakes "troll control" mode, or the "link"module that connects to the motor and a Lowance via NEMA. But in the future I may buy a Suzuki, but definitely need some kinda merc mon gauges if I do.
Can you do a battle against different batteries that would be used for trolling motor and outboard. Set up for bass boat rigs
When you do these comparisons, are you strictly thinking in terms of bass boat use? You talk a lot about the Pro XS, but what about the verado line? do you like those?
Would be curious for your thoughts on the mercury, pro XS, 175, which is a V6 versus the Yamaha SHO 175, which is an in-line four.
would like to see a battle on 200hp's and a video on starting setups. i see the 202 has not progressed much in the backround:)
Nice review, I'll be buying a new boat and it comes with the Merc 150.
Hello Team marine
I purchased a 2006 Suzuki, 175 HP, 2.7 Liter 4 strokes 4 cylinder. Owned it for years very happy with it. So far I had to change an IAC one time. To me it's super reliable. By the way got it in 2007 and still going strong, no complaints what so ever. Thanks stay safe.
Great to hear John! Awesome
how much consume Liter for hour?
thank u
@@andreafratta4618
Hello Andrea yes my bad, its 2.9 liter
@@andreafratta4618
175hp suzuki 2.9 liter big block, weighing at 474 lbs.
So I have 2016 zuki 150 and I live in Utah. My biggest problem is top end speed I have switched props from a 19p to a 17p just to get to the 6k range on rpms. But what else can I do to gain more power. I currently do 38-39gps on a 2016 pioneer 197 islander. Any help would be appreciated. And my elevation is 6200
🤣🤣 sell it an get a yamaha or merc, for more speed. My brother and i clocked 54mph on my merc 150.
Who's you winner in this battle?
Suzuki. Just ask Tom Monsoor
Zuk, BABY!
Suzuki
hi, I wanted to tell you that you are great!!! can I ask you a question? I live in Italy,
I'm about to buy a new engine to install on a 7m inflatable boat, I'm undecided about Mercury PRO XS 200hp - Suzuki DF 200 AP, what do you recommend? A thousand thanks
When do we see the shop build of the champion
Hey Andy what is your best price you can give me on the 150ss
I just burnt my Merc 175 EFI for the second time and am chewing hard on repowering my 1998 Champion 187 with a 4 stroke. Mercury and Suzuki are my top preferences. Have you seen any issues with 4 stokes on the older Champs. I do have twin power poles, 4 batteries, and 2 noco 2 bank chargers in the back. 8" manual jack plate. If I repower I will probably switch to a 6" hydraulic. Any advise would be great.
Did you reposer with a Suzuki? I have a Champ too.
Do you guys work on boats all year round? If not what do you do in the winter to keep yourselves busy? I never even considered being a marine mechanic until I moved to Florida and realized I could work on boats year round.
We do Caleb! We save the big jobs that we call "winter jobs" for our downtime.
I bought a Suzuki because of your videos, I hung the 150SS on this April and all I have to say is thanks!!! The 150SS is bullet proof, super quiet and sips gas oh and the 6 year warranty is awesome too!!
Would like to see a shallow anchor battle. Power Pole, Talon, Raptor!
Wanted to know a 90 hp out board motor. Don't care about speed witch motor is better I want reliable & dependable motor thanks
you read my mind on switching brands on boats motors thanks
115 / 140 Suzuki vs Merc.
I have a 2020 Mercury 115 Pro XS on my 2021 Beavertail. I've had THREE power trim and tilts go out on it within 15 months of ownership (took delivery of new boat and motor June 2021). All they do is keep replacing the power trim and tilt assembly but no explanation or investigation into why I've had 3 go out in such a short time. I also had my Idle Air Control seize up at 2 hrs. Turns out it was a factory recall due to a bad IAC part...but Mercury dealer didn't bother to replace the part prior to install. That was an easy fix. The motor has been outstanding but just blows my mind that their power trim and tilts are this bad.
Suzuki will never be able to compete with mercury or Yamaha until they establish a dealer net work. I live in a very popular area for boating and I don’t have a Suzuki dealer within 100 miles of me.
They are working on it. Slowly but surely
I'm in the middle Tennessee area with TONS of lakes / rivers and we're in good shape with 6 Suzuki dealers within a 50 mile radius of home. Not sure if it's Suzuki's research or just a dart throw, but we're flush with their dealers around here.
I recently re-powered my bass boat from a 150 ProXS to a Suzuki DF150A. As far as I can tell, the only difference between the standard and the SS version is the Matt black paint and the gear case ratio (2.5:1 vs. 2:1) Can I swap out the Lower Unit to gain a little extra performance?
Let's just say that Suzuki will tell you no! ;)
@@TeamMarineService ah… gotcha. I understand. I’m still gonna test that…
Merc is lighter, bigger capacity and has less parts being a single overhead cam. Suzuki also seem to have more corrosion issues.
I'm running a DF200 SS on a '98 Ranger R91vs. I need help upgrading my prop to get a little more speed. Can you guys offer some suggestions and a direction to go? I watched your scorpion prop review and am curious if that prop would benefit my set up more.
We have solved the 200SS issue! Dropping a video soon on the fix!
@@TeamMarineService what's the fix?
One big thing I reckon you missed was power/weight/torque the suzuki is 2.05L and 517lbs vs 3L mercury 456lbs. Mercury is going to have better holeshot, carry a load more easily and have better top end. Which if I was buying would be a deciding factor how it performed on water, vs how easy it was to service or rig
Zuke is a 2867 cc's which is a 2.9L not a 2.05L
Mercury. Made in the USA
So are Ford F-150's and we those are junk!
Not all. 90 and under aren't even Mercury but rebadged Tohatsu motors for China.
Are they?
I dive a 1996 Jeep Cherokee . Some where on it is a sticker that says "most of these Mexican parts are assembled in the USA ." Just because its assembled in the USA doesn't mean it's made here.
The phone or computer you typed your comment on. Made in china..
I have a 99 Seawirl The sticker in the boat says 140 could I put a Suzuki SS 150 Anna and be OK
Weight might be a minor consideration on an older boat repower. What do you think?
Suzuki or Yamaha. Both good quality. Good maintenance grease job and oil changes they will be trouble for years.
Where are you located? I would love for you to install a Suzuki 150 SS on my boat. It’s my first boat so I would love to have it done right
What about a comparison between zuki 175 and merc 175
ive got a z18 with a 150 pro xs and it has a 23 fury on it it will run 63 loaded and 65 with one person and a quarter of a tank i would think thats pretty good for a 150
Suzuki again! 👍🏻
Is it true that some mercury 4 stroke technology came straight from Yamaha? A mechanic told me that when I bought my 115 pro xs in 2019.
They shared a lot of parts in 90's. Merc also helped Yamaha in their early years in how to build motors. Most techs don't know this, learned that from old retired mechanic and it's in Yamaha s site on partnership
Who gives a hoot!!
@@rski1036 your mom
I like the Mercury over the Suzuki pretty much because the Mercury is 3.0 liters over the Suzuki's 2.8 liters.
I was hoping you’d compare the weight of each individual motor!
We've been told from multiple sources that Mercury weighs their outboards without oil, wiring harness, prop, side cowling and engine cowling. Pretty unfair to compare if you ask us
Using Both motors and knowing that Merc outsells Suzuki 15 to 1. I would go Mercury everyday. You truly get what you pay for. Suzuki seems overworked and heavier then hell.
trim is whiney as hell and bigger v6 burn oil
At the end of the day we'd go with the Suzuki because, in our opinion, we know that we'd make it back to the landing.
@@TeamMarineService Gotta love what you sell, hence my choice of Mercs ;)
Sorry but that Suzuki is hideous IMO. That red air intake or whatever it is looks like something you would find on a Type R Civic or something. I don't think you should be rating on looks as that's subjective. And the Merc is a ton lighter. 456 lbs vs 520 lbs. That's a lot of weight hanging off the ass of a 17 to 18' boat.
How about a LUND 1875 Fisherman 150 Mercury XS vs Competition ?
Like to this 200 pro sx v. 200 ss comparison
10:47, is that a bud light?
🤣🤣🤣 Pepsi
Use a rigging tube and adaptor for the Suzuki throw that rubber grommet away! Makes rigging so much easier!
Havr a 2000 Merc 200hp Optimax, having so many issues. Dies everytime put in gear, had in shop almost 5 month saying they're waiting on fuel pump to fix the problem. Finally excuse after excuse & $3000 in labor an 2nd hand parts. Went to pick it up, found they broke starter shaft & 3 days after having it back home & 1 attempt to get on water. Found it still has same problem it did when I took to them plus now graphs, trolling motor , even damaged crap on trailer!!🤬 More issues now then it did when I took to them. Ive had to cancel the rest of the MLF tourn for remainder of the year. Wish I could afford a new Yam. Sho but its taken the last of my 7yrs of savings, & Im disabled so I cant do any the repairs anymore. Do you have any used I can trade same hp for my 2000 Basscat Panterra. 1st experience with Merc & not a fan, & really enjoyed the fuel exp & quite start up of my Yam. EFI 4stroke. Anyway, any suggestion, advice be greatly appreciated. Not but to marine shops within 2 hr drive that would attempt to work on it. Found out the hard way not to ever use one of them..🤬
Agm vs lithium battle
Charging systems for sure!!!
Shallow water anchor systems
We need to get on one together and just talk boats motors and the rest it would make a great vid.
@@TeamMarineService can you text me again. I kinda went through a phone crisis and never actually saved the contact.
Take me fishing B.... 👍
A Suzuki dealer naming Suzuki the winner, hmmm.... nothing to see here folks the battle has been bought and paid for.
Joseph if you know a guy at Suzuki Marine that will pay us please let us know! We are sick of making silly CZcams videos
@Joseph Kitchens they aren't selling Suzuki for free. There is always a kick back when you're a dealer. I hear this talk about reliability of the Suzuki outboards over Mercury but I never see a 15, 20 or 30 year old Suzuki on the water. I wonder why 🤔 ?
I love my Suzuki 150 SS
Heck yeah Gregory!
What’s your suggestion on propping?
How much was it? What year?
It’s a 2021, it’s on a Vexus AVX 1980
Would really like to try a Suzuki only downfall is nearest dealer is 100 miles away.
Fair concern buddy, where ya located?
@@TeamMarineService In Grenada Ms. about 100 miles south of Memphis on I55. Grenada lake is the best crappie fishing in the nation they have numerous tournaments here.
If possible there should be another rating of the motors and that would be weight, there are serious differences between motors of the same horsepower.
We have a 2020 150 pro xs and we have had no problem with it over the past year. The only problem is trying to get the water spots off of it and it won't trim above a quarter since we added the smart craft to the engine but other than that we are as happy as can be.
Good to hear Jacob. Look into that trim issue with your dealer
Got a Merc 150 4 stroke, 550 hours since July 2020 so far. No issues yet, I’ll be thoroughly pleased if I can tick past 1000 hours with no problems at all!
Love my Merc 150! I’m sure a zuke would be great as well
I once would of asked for the 70hp. That's what I had on an aluminum 16 footer but now only care about the 250's
SS ftw!
Bingo!
Got both on the rental fleet I run. Suzukis are definitely louder, but I have a theory that they sacrificially burn oil once they are over the maintenance window. We noticed every Zuki would come in 3-4 qts low, while Mercs would maybe be a qt low.
Means mercury engine more reliable than suzuki?
Never seen that with my Df 175
I would have to go with the Suzuki as well!! I’ve been researching the heck out of the 150 & 200 ss in matte black. About time to repower my 99 cobra, all comes down to how much I want to spend lol.
Heck Yeah!
By the 150 chip it to a 200
@@TeamMarineService I can buy a 150 pro xsfor around 15k, what should I expect to pay for the Zuk? I'm down in South Carolina
What about a Honda?
I had a boat, motor, trailer package, 1995 Mariner 75hp on it, that was a great and very strong motor. One of my boys took it in August of this year, still running strong. I bought a boat, motor, trailer package May 2020. It has a 90hp Suzuki on it. Seems to be a very good motor. I would have to say in my opinion, that the Suzuki and Yamaha has it better over the Mercury. I here a lot of people having trouble with the Mercury’s over Suzuki or Yamaha. Just my 2 cents.
Bobs machine vs atlas and power pole vs minn kota anchors
merc have 3 plus 3 yr warranty if serviced at the merc dealer so thats another nod for merc
Where are you guys located?
La Crosse, WI 👍🏻
@@TeamMarineService Ihope you didn't roll your eyes because even if the info was right in front of me I may have missed it! Quicker to ask than to rifle through indexes and such! lol
5 year Warranty on the Mercury Pro XS in the UK
You ain't the only one that hates Suzuki rigging grommet
I would take the Mercury …
Do the 200s ! Need a repower on a 93 Champ 190!
We can do that!
The Merc has low water pick up, stiffer mounts and is lighter. For the win.
Stiffer mounts NO!
Not sure about the mounts but the Merc is for sure lighter.
I have 5 years on my 2021 merc
Merc is 3 + 3 on the warranty. Suzuki can't compete as far as performance either. On a bass boat you need speed, charging and resale value. Suzuki loses in all 3 of those categories plus the warranty.
I think you nailed it Andy. The Merc for performance and the Suzuki for reliability. However I think that Merc is uglier than sin
Agreed
We are pretty confident that that 150 SS will run neck and neck with the Merc
@@TeamMarineService I hear from the people on my lake that the Merc runs a few miles an hour faster on the tritons. The reason they are saying is the Merc is a 3 liter block and can spin a larger prop because of The larger displacements advantage in torque. Are you seeing any of that?
@@TeamMarineService ..please explain how 2 motors with the same horsepower run faster than the other one?does not compute!gear case design?rpm,s are rpm,s right?
@@hometownguy7184 torque
Weight?
@ mark wiebner they won't every talk about weight. Suzuki motors are heavy! Also, Comparing Suzuki to Mercury is not a relevant conversation. Comparing Suzuki vs Tohatsu would be a better discussion.
The only thing I don’t like about the Suzuki is the looks. It looks like a motor from 2003 that a high school kid rattle canned the vent red. The mercury just looks sleek and modern. IMO. 👍🏻
I would choose either a Suzuki or Yamaha. Thanks and awesome video as usual.
Smart choice Roy! 👍🏻 We appreciate ya
Love your honest to the point reviews
115ss Suzuki vs 115 sho Yamaha
Great idea, That'd be a tough battle
You’ve got to be kidding.. is this guy for real? Seriously..
As real as a heart attack Ron!!!
Man you guys are the best !!!
Brand battle Suzuki 115 ss vs Yamaha 115 sho
YES ☝️
Always thought the Suzuki 140 was a better outboard than the 150. You can go all over the bayous of Louisiana. Just about everybody and their daddy has a Suzuki 140. And you can’t kill them
I am liking this channel Thanks
Thanks and welcome
I'm not picking but to the public the MSRP on the Merc is a 1000 cheaper!
I went to several marinas down here in Florida looking to see what the guide’s had on their boats and talking to them it appears that there is an awful lot of them getting off of mercury and Yamaha and going to Suzuki for the reliability and the longevity of the motor I myself currently have a 21 foot gambler with a 200 Mercury I will be re-powering this year most likely with the 225 Suzuki
Too many electronics anymore. I have been a mercury guy for many years. I still love mercruiser in the right situation, but for outboards I would chose either suzuki or Yamaha. Leaning suzuki
7 Suzuki’s on the Water Vs 500 Mercury’s on the Water. I bet you see more Mercury’s . Lol My Ford Truck repair guy sees more Ford Trucks then Nissan Trucks .
I ordered a new boat with a Suzuki 150. The Mercury was $1200 more and was over $1000 more for white, the Suzuki was $305 more for white. I chose the Suzuki for price and reliability.
Smart move Scott! 👍🏻
Brand battle; power pole vs talon.
No I’m no good have you seen the gas prices lately let’s go Brendan
Dumb question maybe... What is the difference between a regular 150 vs the Pro XS / SS?
Pro xs can run about 250 rpm more than a normal outboard
The Suzuki has a different paint scheme, and a differently geared lower unit.
The ProXS has stiffer upper mounts, low water pickup, different gearcase and ratio. The SS is a different gearcase and ratio but has no low water pickup.
Who can't get past the looks of the Merc? So rounded and feminine.
Ya nailed it! We think the exact same MediaSpeed
We could have done a better job on the front side but the rest of the engine I like
The Merc is kind of like a fat chick and the Suzuki is kind of like a skinny chick
@@allendabold5611 I'll take a fat bottomed girl anyway for reliability.