i'm an Fe user that admires Fi. Sometimes when you're an Fe user and you're trying to make people happy it can feel like you are sacrificing a bit of authenticity, at least from my experience. I like how Fi users are basically like "i'm gunna be me. If you like me you like me, if you don't you don't." I think that is beautiful.
Yes i agree. I appreciate the functions that i don't have a strength in. I wish i had them all. I'm INTP, i always wish i could get along with a feely extrovert but it never works out.
@@mattblom3990 I think the reason is because if we hurt others we judge ourselves. Other people's opinions are a reflection to us of our performance when, for Fi users, I think their judgement of themselves purely comes from within themselves. they are more concerned about being accurate because of their Te, and moral according to their own standards, rather than caring about the collective morality. An Fe user will sacrifice their own authenticity, to a degree, to create harmony in the group. If they fail at doing that and are blamed for it, they tend to blame themselves.
@@Karch101 I kinda of get it, thanks for trying to explain. I think being an Fi user myself - I can't sacrifice my own authenticity but I'm also less sensitive to the hurt others might get by myself not sacrificing for them.
What’s really interesting about Ni to Ni communication is that me (ENFJ) and my INFJ best friend usually find ourselves checking each other’s understanding in a conversation by making another Ni-analogy instead of trying so hard to paraphrase. Lol
When you explained Ni - that hits the spot. Whenever I do something my energy always go towards an end result I formed in my mind and then proceed to create a system how to get there. People always ask me how I think the way I do and you just explained it wow.
Amazing video. I would call it a "psychology hack". As an INTJ, i constantly struggle with Fe too. I feel like I am too selfish. Whenever I try to emulate it, people say I am constipated with feelings 😅. Even if I try to do something for someone, I subconsciensly know that I am doing it only for myself (which I guess is Te, and it can't be helped). I personally think that Fe is very altruistic. To care for someone without a regard for yourself and no expectation in return is extremely noble.
As an infp one of the strenghs of a strong Fi (and hence a thoroughly mapped out internal emotional landscape (personality hacker language)) is that it is so easy to see what other individuals are feeling at any given point. It is kind of a hidden superpower since you (in principle) can correct your behavior and steer a situation/a mood in the direction you want. I can talk to any person (unless my Fi strongly suggest otherwise)
Very good video as it was mostly based on people you know. As an INFP I thought I'd explain Fi to you. Fi is never under conscious control. It's a supervisory faculty. It simply sends #positive feeling/#negative feeling in response to what you say or do... or what you observe someone else say or do. In Fi doms this becomes #strong positive feeling#/#strong negative feeling# which is frequently distressing to the person. In some situations Fi also cuts off the motivation to act. Eventually, through vast inner experience Fi doms become very able to soothe negative human emotions. But Fi is not generally appreciated and it takes time to learn how to negotiate with this tyrant function and find a way to offer value to society.
The downside of being an Ne dom is few people can keep up. Ne has a hard time slowing down. It is always pushing forward into new territory and we might leave people behind because of this. It can get rather lonely. ENFP.
The way you talk about Se makes me admire and value it more. I won’t lie, I tend to be very jealous of and/or annoyed by Se users and end up wanting nothing to do with the function (immature, I know)
I really like this video, giving real life senerios rather than the definitions, in which definitions seems to box someone with one category and not the others.
@@valerietuckler8571 it is like looking through a window and seeing what's going on inside. Plus it really helps me understand other people and how to deal with them.
@@troywesterbur706 But... Isn't it intrusive, I mean, trying to enter people's heads? Wouldn't it be more okay to manage instead their emotions? Anyways, it's just my opinion 🙂
@@valerietuckler8571 thats all part of it. I don't understand their emotions or what makes them feel the way they feel or think the way they think. I only know my perspective. But if I can grasp their way of thinking i can truly understand them. Perhaps not judge them.
Great video. I liked your description of Ne and Si, because I'm still trying to figure those functions out. For the past few months, I have been trying to work on Fe, which is really important for INTJs to master. Unless the INTJ wants to avoid 'the people'. A lack of Fe will mean INTJs will need to work twice as hard as other people to achieve their Ni goals. I was speaking to an INFJ and ENFJ yesterday. When people are in trouble, I usually give them the Ni death stare (trying to solve their problem) before (Te) giving them the solution, which apparently, does not go down well with some people. The ENFJ was laughing, saying I should first say, 'that must be hard for you' and 'show emotion' when saying it. I was like thinking, 'that is amazing'. The INFJ added, another good Fe line, 'you look troubled, is there anything I can do?'. Really impressed by Fe hero and Fe parent. I think MBTI is really good for self development. For INTJs, the Fe polar, is the function to work on.
very interesting. i've not heard this described this way. usaf called me an intj during my investigation for a ts-sci clearance. i had no idea what that meant. i was told it's very rare. when i went to university after service, i had a professor that i learned a HUGE amount from, and he explained all of this to me as a very young man. it can be hard being in intj if you don't sort it out in your own head, which he helped me do.
Thank you SO MUCH for this video. It really helped and as a ISFP, you totally nailed the Fi about being authentic. My brother is a ESFJ so thank you so much for this. :)
Me as Fi: This feels so right! I think I could use this video to educate my mom so we could stand each other. Mom as Se: What EXACTLY is she talking about?
Great video as always. You motivate me to work more on my Fe and Se lol. I totally want to join the superhuman take over. Also your notes are a great example of how useful it is to look at the savior functions of other types to see their strength and learn to human with them.
I'm with the superhuman take over. Sometimes I imagine how the world would be like when actual thinking took over feelings and I shower in the light of a glorious, logical world where people could work together to make this a better place... Then I snap back into reality and the general madness.
@@SusanDaIntrepid Oh man, I don´t mind feelers, but can they please just put their ego aside and accept logic? Cognitive dissonance is such an important concept. You can totally align your feelings and thoughts based on logical facts and concepts.
One thing I found helpful in thinking about the cognitive functions is the cognitive spectra. It shows how prevalent/developed a function is by where it is in the stack. If we were to say that we process our first function at 100 frames per second (just to make the math easier), them it would fall off like this: 1st.....100 2nd....75 3rd.....50 4th.....25 5th.....20 6th.....15 7th.....10 8th.....5 In my mind, I always thought of it as a steady drop off as you move down the stack. But it looks like the first four functions drop off quite a bit more that the last four. It really helped me put into perspective how underdeveloped our bottom functions like, compared to our top ones. No wonder why people tend to focus on only the first four.
ENFP - Love my Ne, rhymes with knee, sometimes creates knee jerk reactions. Allows the simultaneous probing of multiple stimuli in the external environment. Means I can be focused on you but also have my attention split off focusing on something else. Don't take offense, I'm still focused on you.
From a very early age, I was using Ni and Te without knowing it. I knew from before I graduated highschool that you could continue to break down particles into their respective fields. From the 5th grade I was interested in physics, in particular photons. I also enjoyed meteorology as predicting weather was quite the challenge. I instinctively knew that the weather was effected by the sun.
I am strongly aware of my Fi. It is the one function I am sure I use a lot. Lol. My mom uses Fe, and she has taught me how to uses Fe, but I always revert back to Fi.
you seem to have given some of the best descriptions of how they work i've seen on youtube though i'd say Ti is more internal analysis and critical thought primarily
In addition to, or perhaps in relation to, broadening one's own range of competency, I believe it's important to understand the eight functions as a way to gain a better understanding and appreciation of people whose preferences are different from one's own. It could help us to understand others and explain ourselves to them in a way that could help mitigate conflicts and find ways to work with and relate to one another in more constructive and mutually beneficial ways.
Ohhh this is the video I've been waiting for, dude the entire time I was just chatting in premiere-chat area lol Thank you :D I plan to make some timestamps of the functions a bit later
This was an excellent way to explain the 8 cognitive functions. And it's interesting how a team with different personalities can really cover each other's weaknesses with their strengths. As a E/INTJ, I appreciate healthy Fe users. I believe my Mom is one, and she is a counselor, so I think I learned some Fe from her. I think that's been helpful going from being socially awkward as a child to the guy at work that gets along with everyone. I'm not everyone's best friend, I don't necessarily hang out with them, but I'm able to work with them. I'm not sure I could do that so easily as a kid.
I still struggle to understand the concept of "subjective logic". logic itself implies that it should be objective. but let's say I won't go further into that, and my question would be this: Does a Ti user try to justify their possibly irrational position by saying "my personal opinion is this, therefore the logical thing for me to do/think is that", as opposed to a Te user who would say something like "I know that this will be irrational, I have no objective justification, but I feel the urge/need to do this or that"? but then again, any need or feeling can also be rationally explained, and if a Te user is going through the process of understanding ones own core feelings or subconscious motives, does he use Te or some sort of "artificial" Ti? would this imply that Te can be even more self-aware, hypothetically?
I hope one day we get to chat through your snugg platform, and I know this comment is quite post dated, but how you just spoke about Fe hit in some kind of way. Very grateful for you sharing your thoughts.
Very cool video I am not going to post allmy stats here but love the video INTJ come in all flavors just like everyone else. Good to see people being educated on this topic.
@8:40 might sound confusing but if you've ever played devils advocate for the sake of gaining even greater understanding, you'll get it :P I just had a chat with my buddy who thought I was pro a negative aspect of humanity, but it ended well where I finally explained that my opposing take was almost sarcastic or exploratory rather than taking a hard stance in a debate sort of way, I was able to make him understand that it was an exploration.
Si is just a precise internal scope. Si can be related to the five senses, active self awareness, or internal identification of a specific thing but what that thing is is not determined by Si. identifying and organizing things in reality (external world) is SeFe-Ti or SeTe-Fi, not Si.
I actually liked you when you said " Si users would say x+y=z but as an Ni user x+y can be equal to a different thing if we change the perspective " As an INTJ , I have a lot of trouble with Si users .... they are so small minded when it comes to different possibilities.
Very true for Ni. I hold a patent for software that connected a few different pre-existing systems. Each system was already 'out there' doing its primary function but no one had thought to leverage (abuse) one of the system's function for a wholly different purpose that could feed other systems to work better. System made $100M for the company that I worked for and owns the patent; I got a $2,000 bonus (and bragging rights)
So that was Ni I was simulating! So me and my friend (IXTJ) were playing this puzzle game called Color Zen (it's free on switch btw), when we were stuck I thought about the win condition and I started walking back from taking peices of the situation and working out a solution. It was very mentally taxing though. I'm an ISFJ (or at least I'm pretty sure I am) so it's pretty far down. It's unnatural to me, but it's pretty useful. Do you have any videos about simulating functions or if not, can you make one? How much can I improve my ability to simulate a function? Is it even worth it?
Okay so, this is unrelated to this video, but how does an ENFP-INTJ relationship naturally like to initiate itself? like what goes into that first spark of chemistry and ultimately how does it evolve from friendship to something serious? Maybe share your story with via your comment, refer me to a link? or maybe make a video on the topic? I just want your best answer. Although this is personally driven inquiry, I think this could offer great insight not only to the other ENFPs who visit this channel but even other INTJs who may be able to relate to your answers like they usually do. Thanks for your speedy answers too, I really appreciate that interactive aspect of your channel. You're the only CZcamsr I know of so far that is this mega on top of getting back to the fans.. keep doing what you're doing! : )
I think enfp has the ability to effortlessly move and "loosen" the intj and also provide a certain feeling of protection and safety (psychologically, perhaps even emotionally)
@@ThePitchblue Hey, thanks for the comment! So me being an enfp, i agree with that statement completely. we do tend to loosen people up in general, and we love when that happens. Seing people go from hardly talking to cutting up with each other truly fulfills and satisfies me. Like you said, It is certainly effortless and somewhat second nature to move around our social environment in a way that keep things exciting, alive, and energetic.
@@boldtakes energetic, yes. if I were to look at it in terms of energy, I would say that your type has more kinetic energy, while introverted types have more potential energy. when these two collide, they fit quite well and the bottled up energy of (in this case) intjs gets released and starts to flow and spread outside of their stiff boundaries. I am basically repeating myself, but that's fine I hope.
Let's suppose that the key to having a good and productive relationship with yourself and others is through being open, seeing yourself and others anew, looking for what you haven't seen before in yourself and others. And I think that is the key. We like when others are open to us, interested, curious. We hate to be categorized or defined. The question then is, does Meyer-Briggs promote openness or kill it? It seems clear to me that Meyers-Briggs is fundamentally definitions and categories and extremely general ones. Once you define yourself, or others, you're no longer open. It doesn't matter what cognitive process you used to create the definition.
So many descriptions are vague, but this video was great. INTJ matches me best without a doubt, based off of these function descriptions. I've occasionally questioned other IxTx types (not that this really matters at all). I think this whole typing community is full of stereotypes that cause a lot of confusion.
I also believe we should work on our weaker parts to become better, so question why do you think INTJ's want constant growth, change and optimization? Is it because of the top functions Ni Te.
Question: as INTJs, why do we kind of like using our Se function (challenging ourselves by listening and being present without mentally wandering), but we tend NOT to like using our Fi function so much (when Fi is 3rd in our stack and Se is 4th)?
It becomes more and more clear to me that my type is probably the INFJ with Ni, Fe, Ti and Se. Maybe ISFJ, but that’s Ne and I don’t see that fit very well for me. Thank you so much for this very informative video!
Thanks for this sis, I'm an INTP but I thought I also might be an INFP because Fi and Ti are so similar to each other So after I watched the video I'm now certain that I'm a Ti user :)
Your videos are longer now (I like the new modality 😎😋). On another note, I think we could be on a similar struggle with Fe (I hate people), but if *Fe*ing will help me conquer the world, then so be it. Also, can I please have Ne in my stack? I mean... It's pretty fantastic any way you look at it, I can never make myself think of multiple concepts at once for too long, I tend to go back to the same one at the end of the day 💔💔
Yes the Fe struggle is real! My videos are longer when I need them to be in order to explain things. Some shorter ones will still be integrated :) And yes Ne is so cool! Way cooler than my crazy Ni lol
@@hannahmathilda7101 But it is still cooler, because your brain can manage that internal chaos, whereas I'll get too exhausted very quickly and will want to go back to the "known territory" to recharge my batteries and I'll never want to know what else is out there anymore once I get the one concept that works for me haha (btw, I'm assuming I have Ni but I don't really know though it could be likely 😒)
Valerie Tuckler But I never get anything done :( Let’s both agree that although there are wonderful features in Ni and Ne, there are also terrible struggles and consequences when one relies solely in it.
I find this all very interesting. You keep mentioning "stacks". Have you done a video explaining stacks? If not, can you please do one in the future? In the meantime, I will subscribe and check out your blog. Thanks.
I am seriously going to hire an Si dominant personality to help with my filing, form creation, etc. I hope they won’t mind taking a personality assessment during their interview. lol
10:22 Ah... I'm old-school. I can do small sales pitches things to people in my supermarket simply from overhearing a buzzword or if they tell me what they want. That said: I prefer to be in food retail rather than sales where transactions happen quickly, and you can instantly close a sale. Sometimes they would tell you exactly what they want and you just give them the items, so long as we have stock available.
Brett Delatte OG man I mention it in some earlier videos. A few years ago I encountered an issue with myself - the inability to respond in a situation that required Fe. I thought I was distraught by this lack of ability in my own self I went seeking to solve the problem. This is where I ended up!
Lol I never thought of savior Se as being cooler than inferior. My pastor is ESFP and he is not that cool. Sure, everyone likes him and says he's cool but overpowering Se is not cool where it counts. How can you be cool when you've jumped off a cliff just for fun? You're just dead at that point. I'd rather have a living cool person to hang with.
Also I've been going into my INTJ lately just to try it out. It's really good at winning Yahtzee and Miles Borne to the point that I feel bad for my fellow players. I tell my self "I'm getting four sixes, If it's not four sixes then it's zero on yahtzee this turn." "But I might get yahtzee later I like yahtzee yahtzee is cool wah wah wah" says my Ego. "I'm getting four sixes. Four sixes will win the game. Yahtzee is not a high probability." I don't exactly enjoy playing that way but my good performance helps keep my ego from being bruised. It did piss off my INTP dad to no ends, he's used to being the more practical player. He thinks the typing system is dumb but I wonder if he would if he knew I used it to whoop his but.
I think the main difference between N and S could be this... When you say "x+y=z in this instance, and that's this instance but if you look at it another way it could equal r or q so what way are you looking at it?" I (se dom) would respond "x+y=z, and I'm looking at it that way because I'm trying to figure out w. If I need to use a different equation to get w I will but that's what I've got right now"
All I learnt from this video was I use all of these functions depending on which one is required... I also don't see how Te can't just replace what most of the other functions can do. I.E I can just find patterns in people and behaviors, whats trendy and whats not with Te, I don't need Fe to do this. Same with Te being able to replace Sensory functions, if you work out what works, thats essentially what Se and Si is also trying to achieve? Also Ni seems like it can also be replaced with Te as figuring out what works is the main objective of Ni.
Hmmm... I guess I should have an Se SO. As an INTJ do you also have a hard time with people over text? I vibe with people in person but when it falls to texting it's either novels back and forth to each other or I'm not understood or received well.
I’ve noticed you’d relate back to yourself when explaining the functions, as a fellow Intj I find this fascinating, would you say this is your ni or fi working when your relating back to yourself.
So I’ve been wanting to learn more about the cognitive function. The thing I’m unclear about is if they are directly tied to your MB personality type. Like I’m an INTJ (probably obvious bc I found your channel) so would we have all the same functions or can they differ from person to person? Is there a range? You mentioned “your stack” so does the order matter too???
This whole methodology is so autistically monolithic for no reason. For example: why does the 4th have to be the "opposite" and not an "8th"? Or why does the 3rd have to be the opposite of the 2nd for no reason?
I think your video would be awesome with some visuals, even if its just the title of what you are talking about. Just a suggestion :) this was very informative, thank you. -INTP
Very thought out metaphysical question regarding how an INTJ feels themselves, emotionally, when they directly & intentionally portray their emotional interest / support to other people, outside the realm of feeling good about yourself by strategically solving anothers problem ... How does Fi "child" feel for you in those instances? -- Curious INFJ dude with an INTJ sister I can't seem to connect with on an emotional level, but wants to understand lol
Si, is my weakest function I swear to God, I am such a mess cant keep my shit toguether, adulting becomes very hard when you are like this. I need to improve it. Thank God my Savior is Ne and I am able to be spontanious.
Hello! I am trying to find the difference between high-level and low-level cognitive functions. On which parameters the cognitive performance depends? In which categories these cognitive functions fall into (Reasoning, Working Memory, Reinforcement Learning, and attentional engagement)?
Hi! 2 Questions... In Which part of US do you live? (I can't localize yor accent) I don't remember anymore the second question...your eyes are too beautiful... :)
Timestamps
Ne 0:57
Ni 2:49
Se 4:53
Si 7:19
Fe 9:43
Fi 12:14
Te 13:31
Ti 14:33
MVP right here ^^
@@InternetLiJo timestampers are MVPs, always +1
Did you just Si this? I think you did... (Si last here lol)
@@StaceTacularAndSuch timestamps are Si? i...guess they would be
as INXJ Si isn't even in my function stack but i actually like organising things?
Thank you
i'm an Fe user that admires Fi. Sometimes when you're an Fe user and you're trying to make people happy it can feel like you are sacrificing a bit of authenticity, at least from my experience. I like how Fi users are basically like "i'm gunna be me. If you like me you like me, if you don't you don't." I think that is beautiful.
Yes i agree. I appreciate the functions that i don't have a strength in. I wish i had them all. I'm INTP, i always wish i could get along with a feely extrovert but it never works out.
Fi is my secondary and I kind of always wonder why Fe users just don't stand up for themselves more...But I'm just tolerant it's your way I guess.
@@mattblom3990 I think the reason is because if we hurt others we judge ourselves. Other people's opinions are a reflection to us of our performance when, for Fi users, I think their judgement of themselves purely comes from within themselves. they are more concerned about being accurate because of their Te, and moral according to their own standards, rather than caring about the collective morality. An Fe user will sacrifice their own authenticity, to a degree, to create harmony in the group. If they fail at doing that and are blamed for it, they tend to blame themselves.
@@Karch101 I kinda of get it, thanks for trying to explain. I think being an Fi user myself - I can't sacrifice my own authenticity but I'm also less sensitive to the hurt others might get by myself not sacrificing for them.
oof im an Fe user that always clashed and gets frustrated with Fi users 😭 i hope to see your point of view some day
As an INTP, This is greatly useful. I'm trying to have this ability to type or read people quickly and understand them.
Same!!!
Guess we aren't all that unique after all.
@@russelwebb8853 We are actually most present on the internet. So seeing many INTP people on the internet doesn't mean there is many of us.
Samee
@@navyaraju8786 Didn't know that, but makes sense. Thanks for the tid bit.
That final advice is so INTJ, always trying to be an independent master of all
What’s really interesting about Ni to Ni communication is that me (ENFJ) and my INFJ best friend usually find ourselves checking each other’s understanding in a conversation by making another Ni-analogy instead of trying so hard to paraphrase. Lol
When you explained Ni - that hits the spot. Whenever I do something my energy always go towards an end result I formed in my mind and then proceed to create a system how to get there. People always ask me how I think the way I do and you just explained it wow.
Amazing video. I would call it a "psychology hack". As an INTJ, i constantly struggle with Fe too. I feel like I am too selfish. Whenever I try to emulate it, people say I am constipated with feelings 😅. Even if I try to do something for someone, I subconsciensly know that I am doing it only for myself (which I guess is Te, and it can't be helped).
I personally think that Fe is very altruistic. To care for someone without a regard for yourself and no expectation in return is extremely noble.
As an infp one of the strenghs of a strong Fi (and hence a thoroughly mapped out internal emotional landscape (personality hacker language)) is that it is so easy to see what other individuals are feeling at any given point.
It is kind of a hidden superpower since you (in principle) can correct your behavior and steer a situation/a mood in the direction you want.
I can talk to any person (unless my Fi strongly suggest otherwise)
Very good video as it was mostly based on people you know. As an INFP I thought I'd explain Fi to you.
Fi is never under conscious control. It's a supervisory faculty. It simply sends #positive feeling/#negative feeling in response to what you say or do... or what you observe someone else say or do.
In Fi doms this becomes #strong positive feeling#/#strong negative feeling# which is frequently distressing to the person. In some situations Fi also cuts off the motivation to act.
Eventually, through vast inner experience Fi doms become very able to soothe negative human emotions.
But Fi is not generally appreciated and it takes time to learn how to negotiate with this tyrant function and find a way to offer value to society.
This was a really concise breakdown. I'd love for you to dive into the Ne/Ni divide, or even the ENFP/INTJ relationship
Cool 😎 that may come up soon
The downside of being an Ne dom is few people can keep up. Ne has a hard time slowing down. It is always pushing forward into new territory and we might leave people behind because of this. It can get rather lonely. ENFP.
Yeah Ne is wild. I enjoy it from friends though
INTJs love hearing about these novel ideas, tho. We appreciate you ENFPs for that reason - it's interesting to us.
Yep. I'm Ne auxiliary and I make jokes that imply upon implying something and people can't catch up, or discussing ideas and reaching the moon😅😅
Got into mbti 3 years ago and i still liked this :)
Awesome 😎
The way you talk about Se makes me admire and value it more. I won’t lie, I tend to be very jealous of and/or annoyed by Se users and end up wanting nothing to do with the function (immature, I know)
^ this impacted me thank you.
I really like this video, giving real life senerios rather than the definitions, in which definitions seems to box someone with one category and not the others.
I’ve had enough of my silly Ni. I’d like some Se, please
My dude 🙌🏼
I'd offer a trade, but I don't really have either.
I wonder if other personality types are as fascinated by this as us INTJ's.
Lmao I have no idea
Troy Westerbur Why are you fascinated by it? (I'm just curious 😅😐)
@@valerietuckler8571 it is like looking through a window and seeing what's going on inside. Plus it really helps me understand other people and how to deal with them.
@@troywesterbur706 But... Isn't it intrusive, I mean, trying to enter people's heads? Wouldn't it be more okay to manage instead their emotions? Anyways, it's just my opinion 🙂
@@valerietuckler8571 thats all part of it. I don't understand their emotions or what makes them feel the way they feel or think the way they think. I only know my perspective. But if I can grasp their way of thinking i can truly understand them. Perhaps not judge them.
Great video. I liked your description of Ne and Si, because I'm still trying to figure those functions out.
For the past few months, I have been trying to work on Fe, which is really important for INTJs to master. Unless the INTJ wants to avoid 'the people'. A lack of Fe will mean INTJs will need to work twice as hard as other people to achieve their Ni goals.
I was speaking to an INFJ and ENFJ yesterday. When people are in trouble, I usually give them the Ni death stare (trying to solve their problem) before (Te) giving them the solution, which apparently, does not go down well with some people. The ENFJ was laughing, saying I should first say, 'that must be hard for you' and 'show emotion' when saying it. I was like thinking, 'that is amazing'. The INFJ added, another good Fe line, 'you look troubled, is there anything I can do?'. Really impressed by Fe hero and Fe parent. I think MBTI is really good for self development. For INTJs, the Fe polar, is the function to work on.
very interesting. i've not heard this described this way. usaf called me an intj during my investigation for a ts-sci clearance. i had no idea what that meant. i was told it's very rare. when i went to university after service, i had a professor that i learned a HUGE amount from, and he explained all of this to me as a very young man. it can be hard being in intj if you don't sort it out in your own head, which he helped me do.
Thank you SO MUCH for this video. It really helped and as a ISFP, you totally nailed the Fi about being authentic. My brother is a ESFJ so thank you so much for this. :)
Awesome! Thanks for the feedback.
Nicely done, you've been fair to each function and without the bs in MBTI groups
ISTP here and been 3 years studying them
.... yo.... I adore ISTPs.... Hey wait you're in the MBTI meme group right?
@@InternetLiJo yes, and I've sent you a pm, but thought you're too busy for discussions
Ali Al-Palani I never got it?! Let me check
Me as Fi: This feels so right! I think I could use this video to educate my mom so we could stand each other.
Mom as Se: What EXACTLY is she talking about?
It's nice to see someone ,who know the functions and recognise the types by functions ,not stereotypes. It's really rare.
Great video as always. You motivate me to work more on my Fe and Se lol. I totally want to join the superhuman take over.
Also your notes are a great example of how useful it is to look at the savior functions of other types to see their strength and learn to human with them.
I'm with the superhuman take over. Sometimes I imagine how the world would be like when actual thinking took over feelings and I shower in the light of a glorious, logical world where people could work together to make this a better place... Then I snap back into reality and the general madness.
@@SusanDaIntrepid Oh man, I don´t mind feelers, but can they please just put their ego aside and accept logic?
Cognitive dissonance is such an important concept. You can totally align your feelings and thoughts based on logical facts and concepts.
@@SusanDaIntrepid Wars are caused Te users, not hippies.
One thing I found helpful in thinking about the cognitive functions is the cognitive spectra. It shows how prevalent/developed a function is by where it is in the stack. If we were to say that we process our first function at 100 frames per second (just to make the math easier), them it would fall off like this:
1st.....100
2nd....75
3rd.....50
4th.....25
5th.....20
6th.....15
7th.....10
8th.....5
In my mind, I always thought of it as a steady drop off as you move down the stack. But it looks like the first four functions drop off quite a bit more that the last four. It really helped me put into perspective how underdeveloped our bottom functions like, compared to our top ones. No wonder why people tend to focus on only the first four.
ENFP - Love my Ne, rhymes with knee, sometimes creates knee jerk reactions. Allows the simultaneous probing of multiple stimuli in the external environment. Means I can be focused on you but also have my attention split off focusing on something else. Don't take offense, I'm still focused on you.
In short...chaos
Haha I get it!
@@hannahmathilda7101 Chaos that makes sense if you're us!
@@mattblom3990 🙋🏾♀️ENFP here. I love me a bit of chaos. Keeps the day interesting.😎😉
From a very early age, I was using Ni and Te without knowing it. I knew from before I graduated highschool that you could continue to break down particles into their respective fields. From the 5th grade I was interested in physics, in particular photons. I also enjoyed meteorology as predicting weather was quite the challenge. I instinctively knew that the weather was effected by the sun.
Very informative video. Thank you for the succinct explanations of what these different functions are.
Glad you find it useful!
I am strongly aware of my Fi. It is the one function I am sure I use a lot. Lol. My mom uses Fe, and she has taught me how to uses Fe, but I always revert back to Fi.
As an INTJ, I nearly closed the video when you warned there would be anecdotes!
What! They are the paints that illustrate the bigger picture! I can’t do the Si lol sorry.
you seem to have given some of the best descriptions of how they work i've seen on youtube though i'd say Ti is more internal analysis and critical thought primarily
Great point and thank you!
In addition to, or perhaps in relation to, broadening one's own range of competency, I believe it's important to understand the eight functions as a way to gain a better understanding and appreciation of people whose preferences are different from one's own. It could help us to understand others and explain ourselves to them in a way that could help mitigate conflicts and find ways to work with and relate to one another in more constructive and mutually beneficial ways.
Ohhh this is the video I've been waiting for, dude the entire time I was just chatting in premiere-chat area lol
Thank you :D
I plan to make some timestamps of the functions a bit later
Joseph yay!!
You don't know how much I relate to you and how much we have in common, LiJo.
Btw, I always love how you explain informations in great details. 👏
Sly Owl 🦉 glad you find it beneficial and relatable!
This was an excellent way to explain the 8 cognitive functions. And it's interesting how a team with different personalities can really cover each other's weaknesses with their strengths. As a E/INTJ, I appreciate healthy Fe users. I believe my Mom is one, and she is a counselor, so I think I learned some Fe from her. I think that's been helpful going from being socially awkward as a child to the guy at work that gets along with everyone. I'm not everyone's best friend, I don't necessarily hang out with them, but I'm able to work with them. I'm not sure I could do that so easily as a kid.
I still struggle to understand the concept of "subjective logic". logic itself implies that it should be objective. but let's say I won't go further into that, and my question would be this: Does a Ti user try to justify their possibly irrational position by saying "my personal opinion is this, therefore the logical thing for me to do/think is that", as opposed to a Te user who would say something like "I know that this will be irrational, I have no objective justification, but I feel the urge/need to do this or that"? but then again, any need or feeling can also be rationally explained, and if a Te user is going through the process of understanding ones own core feelings or subconscious motives, does he use Te or some sort of "artificial" Ti? would this imply that Te can be even more self-aware, hypothetically?
Great Video. This video is going to be my guide for a long time
I hope one day we get to chat through your snugg platform, and I know this comment is quite post dated, but how you just spoke about Fe hit in some kind of way. Very grateful for you sharing your thoughts.
Happy to do so anytime it’s convenient or the time is right for you :)
Binged all day on your videos. They're very helpful. Best out there,imo.
Thanks so much Ray
Very cool video I am not going to post allmy stats here but love the video INTJ come in all flavors just like everyone else. Good to see people being educated on this topic.
Yes we do! We are pretty cool once you get under the surface :)
As an enfj, I fangirl Ti so hard.
@8:40 might sound confusing but if you've ever played devils advocate for the sake of gaining even greater understanding, you'll get it :P I just had a chat with my buddy who thought I was pro a negative aspect of humanity, but it ended well where I finally explained that my opposing take was almost sarcastic or exploratory rather than taking a hard stance in a debate sort of way, I was able to make him understand that it was an exploration.
Si is just a precise internal scope. Si can be related to the five senses, active self awareness, or internal identification of a specific thing but what that thing is is not determined by Si. identifying and organizing things in reality (external world) is SeFe-Ti or SeTe-Fi, not Si.
I love this channel!! it's so painfuly relatable, with all of its abstracts and pleasant depths!!
Yess! Love to hear your thoughts!
Thanks Sofia!
the 'hey what up' subtitles at the start is the best
My Fi uses the language of Fe because I project my own feelings onto everyone else instead of actually collecting information about how they feel 🙃
i relate!
I actually liked you when you said " Si users would say x+y=z but as an Ni user x+y can be equal to a different thing if we change the perspective "
As an INTJ , I have a lot of trouble with Si users .... they are so small minded when it comes to different possibilities.
X+y =z
X can be any number
Y can be any number
Z can be any number
Huh? What am i even talking about
Lijo Lijo Lijo!!! Virsaviya came to visit and I’m like amazed haha type twins haha. But, I’m here to relock these things down.
Thank you so much for making this video Lindsay! Would you kindly make a video on day about reasoning between Ti and Fi users?
Very true for Ni. I hold a patent for software that connected a few different pre-existing systems. Each system was already 'out there' doing its primary function but no one had thought to leverage (abuse) one of the system's function for a wholly different purpose that could feed other systems to work better. System made $100M for the company that I worked for and owns the patent; I got a $2,000 bonus (and bragging rights)
That’s amazing! I want to know more about your software!
So that was Ni I was simulating! So me and my friend (IXTJ) were playing this puzzle game called Color Zen (it's free on switch btw), when we were stuck I thought about the win condition and I started walking back from taking peices of the situation and working out a solution. It was very mentally taxing though. I'm an ISFJ (or at least I'm pretty sure I am) so it's pretty far down.
It's unnatural to me, but it's pretty useful. Do you have any videos about simulating functions or if not, can you make one? How much can I improve my ability to simulate a function? Is it even worth it?
I have one on “how to Te better”
Thank you my lovely friend, I love t Learning read I never forget we can do the things together good luck.😁😉
Adams Teguera yes!
Okay so, this is unrelated to this video, but how does an ENFP-INTJ relationship naturally like to initiate itself? like what goes into that first spark of chemistry and ultimately how does it evolve from friendship to something serious?
Maybe share your story with via your comment, refer me to a link? or maybe make a video on the topic? I just want your best answer. Although this is personally driven inquiry, I think this could offer great insight not only to the other ENFPs who visit this channel but even other INTJs who may be able to relate to your answers like they usually do.
Thanks for your speedy answers too, I really appreciate that interactive aspect of your channel. You're the only CZcamsr I know of so far that is this mega on top of getting back to the fans.. keep doing what you're doing! : )
I think enfp has the ability to effortlessly move and "loosen" the intj and also provide a certain feeling of protection and safety (psychologically, perhaps even emotionally)
@@ThePitchblue Hey, thanks for the comment! So me being an enfp, i agree with that statement completely. we do tend to loosen people up in general, and we love when that happens. Seing people go from hardly talking to cutting up with each other truly fulfills and satisfies me. Like you said, It is certainly effortless and somewhat second nature to move around our social environment in a way that keep things exciting, alive, and energetic.
@@boldtakes energetic, yes. if I were to look at it in terms of energy, I would say that your type has more kinetic energy, while introverted types have more potential energy. when these two collide, they fit quite well and the bottled up energy of (in this case) intjs gets released and starts to flow and spread outside of their stiff boundaries. I am basically repeating myself, but that's fine I hope.
@@boldtakes whoops, your comment disappeared?
@@ThePitchblue yeah, i thought it was too weird
This was so helpful and clarifying! Thank-you :)
Outstanding job at explaining. subscribed (y)
Let's suppose that the key to having a good and productive relationship with yourself and others is through being open, seeing yourself and others anew, looking for what you haven't seen before in yourself and others.
And I think that is the key. We like when others are open to us, interested, curious. We hate to be categorized or defined.
The question then is, does Meyer-Briggs promote openness or kill it?
It seems clear to me that Meyers-Briggs is fundamentally definitions and categories and extremely general ones.
Once you define yourself, or others, you're no longer open. It doesn't matter what cognitive process you used to create the definition.
I agree, the stereotypes also don't help. I know some people who try to live up to them, I don't know why but they do and it's not healthy
@@applicableapple3991 what stereotypes
Great explanation, also I love your hair! :D
Thank you!
So many descriptions are vague, but this video was great. INTJ matches me best without a doubt, based off of these function descriptions. I've occasionally questioned other IxTx types (not that this really matters at all). I think this whole typing community is full of stereotypes that cause a lot of confusion.
Lindsay, you are beautiful within and without
Well shoot thanks so much.
I also believe we should work on our weaker parts to become better, so question why do you think INTJ's want constant growth, change and optimization? Is it because of the top functions Ni Te.
Because the ability to leverage strong skills in the most important areas gives us the advantage to complete anything we set our mind to.
@@InternetLiJo we can be anything but we didnt want any... O god, what a fair of destiny we have..
Question: as INTJs, why do we kind of like using our Se function (challenging ourselves by listening and being present without mentally wandering), but we tend NOT to like using our Fi function so much (when Fi is 3rd in our stack and Se is 4th)?
It becomes more and more clear to me that my type is probably the INFJ with Ni, Fe, Ti and Se. Maybe ISFJ, but that’s Ne and I don’t see that fit very well for me. Thank you so much for this very informative video!
Poetry & MBTI are languages I do not speak. I cannot comprehend either, ever. Thank goodness I’m an INTP and I have many other things to do…
Thanks for this sis, I'm an INTP but I thought I also might be an INFP because Fi and Ti are so similar to each other
So after I watched the video I'm now certain that I'm a Ti user :)
Your videos are longer now (I like the new modality 😎😋). On another note, I think we could be on a similar struggle with Fe (I hate people), but if *Fe*ing will help me conquer the world, then so be it. Also, can I please have Ne in my stack? I mean... It's pretty fantastic any way you look at it, I can never make myself think of multiple concepts at once for too long, I tend to go back to the same one at the end of the day 💔💔
Yes the Fe struggle is real!
My videos are longer when I need them to be in order to explain things. Some shorter ones will still be integrated :)
And yes Ne is so cool! Way cooler than my crazy Ni lol
@@InternetLiJo I like the long format lol
Valerie Tuckler
I wish I had Ni for some time. Ne is being numb and happy inside the chaotic swirl of everything around you 😂
@@hannahmathilda7101 But it is still cooler, because your brain can manage that internal chaos, whereas I'll get too exhausted very quickly and will want to go back to the "known territory" to recharge my batteries and I'll never want to know what else is out there anymore once I get the one concept that works for me haha (btw, I'm assuming I have Ni but I don't really know though it could be likely 😒)
Valerie Tuckler
But I never get anything done :(
Let’s both agree that although there are wonderful features in Ni and Ne, there are also terrible struggles and consequences when one relies solely in it.
8:30 And it is usually right around that point that I get asked to leave :)
Excellent . This could be useful to type people too . If they refuse to type themselves and then tell me their results lol .🤔
Haha yes it should be helpful in that area!
that was really enlightning! thank you so much
Just found your channel. This is a great video. You've got a new subscriber
I find this all very interesting. You keep mentioning "stacks". Have you done a video explaining stacks? If not, can you please do one in the future? In the meantime, I will subscribe and check out your blog. Thanks.
Yes! Like 2 videos prior to this one :)
I am seriously going to hire an Si dominant personality to help with my filing, form creation, etc. I hope they won’t mind taking a personality assessment during their interview. lol
New on this channel and finally I have the means to understand your language :D
10:22 Ah... I'm old-school. I can do small sales pitches things to people in my supermarket simply from overhearing a buzzword or if they tell me what they want. That said: I prefer to be in food retail rather than sales where transactions happen quickly, and you can instantly close a sale. Sometimes they would tell you exactly what they want and you just give them the items, so long as we have stock available.
it's amazing how I was typing my coworker (shift menager in mcd) as isfj and you talking about Si actually mentioned fast food xD
Awesome video!
Very smart. Thanks.
Super interesting and informative video
Very well explained...awesome
Immediately skipped to Fe and was not disappointed. You're a gem.
Great content as always LiJo. What got you interested with MBTI?
Brett Delatte OG man I mention it in some earlier videos. A few years ago I encountered an issue with myself - the inability to respond in a situation that required Fe. I thought I was distraught by this lack of ability in my own self I went seeking to solve the problem. This is where I ended up!
Lol I never thought of savior Se as being cooler than inferior. My pastor is ESFP and he is not that cool. Sure, everyone likes him and says he's cool but overpowering Se is not cool where it counts. How can you be cool when you've jumped off a cliff just for fun? You're just dead at that point. I'd rather have a living cool person to hang with.
Also I've been going into my INTJ lately just to try it out. It's really good at winning Yahtzee and Miles Borne to the point that I feel bad for my fellow players. I tell my self "I'm getting four sixes, If it's not four sixes then it's zero on yahtzee this turn." "But I might get yahtzee later I like yahtzee yahtzee is cool wah wah wah" says my Ego. "I'm getting four sixes. Four sixes will win the game. Yahtzee is not a high probability." I don't exactly enjoy playing that way but my good performance helps keep my ego from being bruised. It did piss off my INTP dad to no ends, he's used to being the more practical player. He thinks the typing system is dumb but I wonder if he would if he knew I used it to whoop his but.
Ohhh now i understand SE better lol kinda wish i didn't though it sounds scary.
Lmao 😂 it’s SO REAL
I think the main difference between N and S could be this...
When you say
"x+y=z in this instance, and that's this instance but if you look at it another way it could equal r or q so what way are you looking at it?"
I (se dom) would respond
"x+y=z, and I'm looking at it that way because I'm trying to figure out w. If I need to use a different equation to get w I will but that's what I've got right now"
All I learnt from this video was I use all of these functions depending on which one is required... I also don't see how Te can't just replace what most of the other functions can do. I.E I can just find patterns in people and behaviors, whats trendy and whats not with Te, I don't need Fe to do this. Same with Te being able to replace Sensory functions, if you work out what works, thats essentially what Se and Si is also trying to achieve? Also Ni seems like it can also be replaced with Te as figuring out what works is the main objective of Ni.
.... smart gal
Hmmm... I guess I should have an Se SO. As an INTJ do you also have a hard time with people over text? I vibe with people in person but when it falls to texting it's either novels back and forth to each other or I'm not understood or received well.
0:17 the Hashtag lol
Hehehe 😉
I’ve noticed you’d relate back to yourself when explaining the functions, as a fellow Intj I find this fascinating, would you say this is your ni or fi working when your relating back to yourself.
Hi Lindsey 🖖🏼
IED- Intermittent Explosive Disorder
Is this common in an ISFJ's secondary? Fe? [ Working on my frustration tolerance ]
So I’ve been wanting to learn more about the cognitive function. The thing I’m unclear about is if they are directly tied to your MB personality type. Like I’m an INTJ (probably obvious bc I found your channel) so would we have all the same functions or can they differ from person to person? Is there a range? You mentioned “your stack” so does the order matter too???
This whole methodology is so autistically monolithic for no reason. For example: why does the 4th have to be the "opposite" and not an "8th"? Or why does the 3rd have to be the opposite of the 2nd for no reason?
It's been said that Ti tends to produce the most secular people. How would you say this works for Te?
I think your video would be awesome with some visuals, even if its just the title of what you are talking about. Just a suggestion :) this was very informative, thank you. -INTP
Thanks! I agree. It' just takes more time, so I'm trying to acquire some of that.
Omg this helps alot
Very thought out metaphysical question regarding how an INTJ feels themselves, emotionally, when they directly & intentionally portray their emotional interest / support to other people, outside the realm of feeling good about yourself by strategically solving anothers problem ... How does Fi "child" feel for you in those instances? -- Curious INFJ dude with an INTJ sister I can't seem to connect with on an emotional level, but wants to understand lol
All of the functions are great but I'm fine with the ones I have.
Same! We can only be who we are.
Si, is my weakest function I swear to God, I am such a mess cant keep my shit toguether, adulting becomes very hard when you are like this. I need to improve it.
Thank God my Savior is Ne and I am able to be spontanious.
What’s the difference between Te and Ni
And what’s the difference between Ti and Te
Almost similar :$
Hello!
I am trying to find the difference between high-level and low-level cognitive functions. On which parameters the cognitive performance depends? In which categories these cognitive functions fall into (Reasoning, Working Memory, Reinforcement Learning, and attentional engagement)?
Hi! 2 Questions... In Which part of US do you live? (I can't localize yor accent)
I don't remember anymore the second question...your eyes are too beautiful... :)
Yesss my non regional diction wins mwhahah it’s because I never go outside 😬 I’m from NY. Currently still living on the east coast.
So Kind! Thank You For Your Answer :)