CFMOTO Zforce Lift kit and spacers.
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- čas přidán 11. 01. 2020
- In this video we cover how to get a better ride out of a Zforce Trail. witch covees Suspension adjustment lift kit install and wheel spacers. Thank you for all of your support we hope to keep bringing you more content and we hope to get better and better.
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Max Motosports 2pcs 2.0" 4/110 4x110 ATV Wheel Spacers
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Just did this to my 2021 Z800 yesterday. Totally changed the ride in a good direction. Thanks so much for the input. Great job keep the vids coming.
You’re welcome 😉 enjoy 😊
hay bud thanks again for all your help, just want to let ya know im an amsoil dealer and if you need anything i will take good care of you, my cost + shipping
Thank you 🙏
Wow man that's definitely gonna ride much better. I would think anyway. Steve you can probably make a set of them lift kit brackets. I like this idea for my 950. I wonder how it would work?
I’m not sure on the 950.
Could you post the specs you set your shocks. I was a little confused with top & bottom settings...?
Question, What was the purpose of drilling holes in the rear and adding bolts (to where?) when no holes were required in the front?
I’ve got a question about wheel spacers I ordered same ones but lug nuts do not go on all the way when attaching the wheel spacers. Is this normal
I'd suggest to start putting Loctite from the tip of the bolt then you are sure that the nut gets a sufficent amount of Loctite. At @9:02 on the higest bolt the nut probably doesn't get any Loctite because with wheel spacers the nut usually doesn't go in on all the nut thread.
And a little tip for the front tire jobs is that you can use fron brake lever with nip ties or something then you don't have to use any bar or something to hold the tire spacer from spinning.
How do you get the front suspension to line up my arms wont go down far enough to fit in the new holes
"I'ma gas the fuck out of it!"
I'm still dying! That shit it's priceless!!!!!
will i need to add wheel spacers .and would 1 .5 be good ? and what size do i need ?any info will help thanks
Did this to my machine several months ago. This week I did a once over on it. I found both inner tie rods bent at the ball right at the rack. Upon further investigation I found that when front of the machine jacked up off the ground the suspension will not fully extend. The inner tie rod will only let it go so far. I removed the outer from the knuckle and the shock extended an other inch. This I believe is bending the inner right at the rack. I've double checked and yes I put the short ones on the front. Wondering if you have any input.
Thnx
John.
🤔 I’m not sure because the rack is the same across all Zforce models if I remember correctly. That’s definitely weird for sure. If I run in to this issue I will definitely update everyone and figure out a fix for it.
Great Vids RNG !! You mentioned at the end of this video, that you will ride it for awhile and fine tune the shock adjustments, just checking to see if you made any changes after this video?
Thanks.
Yes. I change them all the time for different trails and stuff.
Hey man, love the videos. I just recently purchased a used 2103 600 Snyper. Wondering if this lift kit and wheel spacer would work on this side by side??
Spencer Russell it should.
How long have you had your side by side done and have you had any issues
And how do you let all the preload out to get the shocks in the holes
Nice video. Will the spacers and particularly the lift kit work for an 800 trail? I have a 2017
Vipr Media Productions yes. The install will be exactly the same.
Hey there. Thank you for your informative videos. We have an 800 EX and cannot find information on which direction to turn the upper and lower adjustments on the shocks for a softer ride. Can you please help?
Set them in the middle. Go both ways count your turns. And then settled in the middle I think it’s 7 clicks right if I remember correctly
Love the videos! Isn’t my entire CFMOTO machine “Chinese-ium?” 😂
Lol. Yes
I'm having issues with my cf zforce 1000. How do you get code off the machine. Check engine light is on
Do you happen to have a video of grease zeros on the zforce? Like where they are all at and how much and when it should be done?? Just got a new 500 and have not greased it yet.....thanks
Yes i just posted a video few videos back on maintenance. Check the recent videos.
Curious to why you went with shock bracket extensions instead of spring spacers for the 2 inch lift.
Dont ever use shock spacers. It will ride horrible. Using the rzr brackets Is by far the best way to go.
Great videos man, do you know the factory spring ratings on the 800 Trail , I am trying to decide between the medium and heavy Bandit Springs. Thanks
Thank you. I actually don’t buddy. Stuff is all I know lol.
Did the install as per your video, wondering if this was an issue for you. Using the one small bracket and one larger per tire I noticed when reattaching the spring that the bolt holes for the spring aren't exactly lined up. The bolt will go through and I tightened and have been running it that way. I'm just wondering if the bolt being a little off center will cause trouble down the road? Also, my ride was nice and soft pre install then rigid post install, I loosened the pre load on the back as much as I could and still rough. I did just take the sway bar off today which I did have done when I installed the lift, I'm going that helps but any other advice you might have would be great! Thanks man your videos are awesome and a great help for guys like me trying to get the most out of our rides!
For the zforce trail. They do ride a little rough with the lift. That’s why we back the preload off as much as we can to gain softness back. However there is only so much you can do. I would need to see pictures of what your describing please send to me on Facebook. RNG is my business page. Thank you
@@R.N.GPerformance I will do that! Thanks again.
Hope you see this, because I know it's an older video. I was wondering how the wheel spacers are working out...any issues? Also wondering if you went with longer wheel studs to get a better bite with your spacer nuts? Thanks for taking the time to do the vids!
You’re welcome. They have been holding uo very well. No we just run these as is have had no issues at all.
I tok my zetforce 1000,to service, i have spacers on it,service dude said that spacers wear out bearings very guick..
@@korsu1234 so does offset
I used your link and bought the 2" spacers for a 2021 zforce 500. Did you have any issues getting the lugs started on the studs? Seems the rims on it require a thin wall socket. I stripped 2 studs and now having an issue finding replacements. I've contacted the seller for help.
Just wondering if you had any problems with them.
No i haven’t had any issues. I did however use a chrome socket allot thinner then impact socket.
Hey just bought a force1000 wondering about wheel spacers and a lift can i use the same parts
Kodi Haske everything will be identical same parts. Same installation process.
For the 2023 gen2 zforce 800 trail the spacers are 4x110 with 12mm studs, but how long . Are the 1.25" or 1.5"?
I’m not sure. But I do sell them that fit. Www.rngperformance.net
Question. The spacers on your link on my son's 2021 800 trail the threads on the spacer is only ¾ threaded. The studs aren't all the way through
Yeah that’s pretty much all the cheap Amazon spacers. I have 2k miles on mine and they are fine. We have 1500 on my wife’s and they are fine. I’m also running 2 sets on my golf cart stacked on one another and they have been fine. If you want a good perfect fitting spacer get the perfex ones.
Hey bro. Question. Got a 2015 800 zforce and the rear suspension is horrible! Would you know if a 2016 spring kit would work with stick shocks ?
Should but the shocks suck
Any recommendations on replacements?
Hey I just installed the 2” rzr lift on my zforce 2021 800 trail and was having difficulty getting the front shocks back on. I had to push the A arm down as far as I could and then pry up the shock a bit to get the bolt in. I put the larger lift mounts on the front and smaller on the rear just wondering if that is right and is that normal to have to fight with the front so much to install the shocks again after? I just don’t want to wreck anything or bend anything up front it seemed like I was maxing out the travel for the front.
Hey there yes it can be hard like that. I did take some preload off my springs to help
@@R.N.GPerformance okay thanks I was worried it might cause some damage to the tie rod arms as they seemed to be maxed out when I pushed down on the A arm to install the shock.
@@mikeschlosser7356 we haven’t had any issues however with that said. I’m sure it’s not good
Newer sub. Question I have a 2021 Zforce 500 trail. Will this lift kit work with a 2021?
It shoukd
On the wheel spacers do they come with four or only 2? And you have to buy 2 packages?
Deven Sloan they come with 2 so need to purchase 2 packs.
🤜👍
Hey Im having issues getting the front shock to line up with the bracket hole. I have a 800 trail.
Take all of the preload off. Are you using 2 inch or 3 inch. If you’re using 3 inch give it up it will be problematic
I am having the same issues
The arms won’t go down far enough I’m about 1/2 off
Why did you compress the coil spring?
So you lift it to lower spring rate and keep the same ride height?
Yes
Hi I have a question I have a cforce 600t and wanting to put a 1.5 lift kit on with 1.5 spacers, with the lift kit will the front wheels be toed in with the spacers still? Or will the spacers take care of that or is there something else that has to be done so it doesn't toe in?
It will probably toe in. May have to do an alignment on it
@@R.N.GPerformance ok thanks for replying
Hi great videos , I just purchased a new 2022 800 zforce trail and I would like to add 1" to 1.5" lift , I guess I would also need 1.5" wheel spacers, would this cause damage to my cv axels or drive train ? Thanks
No you will be fine.
@@R.N.GPerformance OK thanks, I guess adding the control arm brackets to relocate the shocks would be the best route ? Would this cause the bike to be much more unstable? Tippy ?
@@rflight7678 yes it will. But adding 2 inch spacers help with that. Perfex industries actually has a kit.
Ok thanks again , I made a set of rock sliders today, to bad I can't add a pic.
@@rflight7678 your welcome. You can share in my ZForce Nation group on Facebook
hey just to let you know that's not soft its slow faster is a softer ride slow when you hit a bump it takes longer to return if your just trail riding you want faster
Ohh so it’s backwards?
Yep
Hey man new to the cf zforce just picked one up road it for a while on the road smelled some diff fluid noticed it was leaking out of the rear diff vent tube is that normal or have u experienced that at all?
Yes this is a normal thing with CFMOTO. I changes mine out for 80w90 valvoline and it stopped.
@@R.N.GPerformance awesome man thank you for getting back with me u got a fb love to have u as a friend and you knowledge mine is a 18 just got it has 460miles on it anything I should look out for and also any ideas were to get new plastics at?
@@R.N.GPerformance also do u have a video of u replacing the front wheel hub mount?
@@codyconley4306 you’re welcome. Yes i do. RedNeckGarage on Facebook. I have done any videos like that yet.
Just tried to install one on my 500 trail and can not for the life of me to get the lower shock mount to line up with the new hole in the bracket.finally gave up after fighting with it for 2 hours.my patience is gone
Back the pre load off on the spring it will go right in. Then re adjust.
Can you please tell me what you're drinking because it seems you're having a great time.
Lol.
I have a gen2 800 trail and I wanna put spacers on it. You 1.5 is about as big as I'd wanna go?
You could do 2 inch just fine if you wanted to. We do have spacers that fit that model.
Www.rngperformance.net
Steve so did you put spacers in the back as well?
Yes
Just got the lift kit from your link. I’m just wanting to put the right brackets in the right place. Can you tell me which size brackets go in the front?
Thanks.
@@nomacc7752 Actually the larger brackets go on the front with the lips trimmed & the smaller ones go on the rear as is not cut or trimmed. Scroll up in the comments & it even says that. There is another video on CZcams that shows this install kit & he did his that same way & so did I. The larger ones in the front lay flat once trimmed & make for a more secure fit. Also. I drilled a single hole through the factory hole on one side of each mount to add extra stability & added an extra bolt & nut. That's one extra bolt/nut per bracket. Only 4 in total. I did the kit on a 2021 Zforce 500 trail. Fronts on the lower end & rears on the top end. Hope this helps.
I also did the same shock adjustments listed here.
Front:
Back off top collar completely
Top all slow then 4 clicks fast
Bottom all fast then 3 clicks slow
Rear:
Top 3.5" gap between each collar
Bottom all slow then 2 clicks fast
Link to other video:
czcams.com/video/fPY9dFrTLHQ/video.html
@@georgetheis7538 yeah you’re right the big ones go in front. Thats what i did. Sorry about the mix up haha.
Im sorry man. I messed up big ones in front.
Was wondering about wheel spacers I,m hearing it creates more stress on wheel bearings what was your experience so far
davy crockett ehhh dont listen to these uneducated folks. If you go with 2 inch you will be fine. Even 2.5 But if you go much more then that you can have wheel bearing issues. We have 2k problem free miles on ours. Ive put wheel spacers on allot of things. Trucks. Cars. Golf carts. 4 wheelers. And from experience anything past 2.5 inches will cause the problems.
RedNeck Garage right on thanks for your input
I got the same spacers and studs don’t come all the way thru what’s you input could you call me big fan 5025655464
So whats the final shock settings you like ? Just installed the lift
Brock Saunders i would have to look i just started playing with them. I think i set the rebound to all the way soft.
@@R.N.GPerformance yea i have to take the stuff all back apart now didnt catch that the big ones go in front until I was done. I kinda was wondering why they didn't sit down on a arm flat like yours
I got a 2021 zforce 800 trail I need a lift kit
How much of the factory studs did the wheel spacer nuts bite?
About half.
Ok. That what I figured. I’m getting about 7/16 bite. A full bite is 5/8. I measure it about 4mm of no bite. More than 2/3 bite.
Bought the kit. And relaxed the front shock. But the smaller pieces don’t touch the control arm. The longer ones .. ok but the front shock does not go into the bolt. I cannot lower the suspension far enough. Any ideas?
It is hard to get it in there. Take spring tension off the shock it will go
Yes I did do that. Must be why you didn’t show it on camera the swearing. It appears you need 2 people .
@@patrickdols63 every step I showed. I also explained it
Hi do you know if there is a stronger tie rod setup available aftermarket ? Thanks
I did see one in Canada. But can’t remember who makes it.
@@R.N.GPerformance Ok thanks
I can’t find the lift kit can you possibly Drop the link
Hey brother.... tire question. Can I put 26x9x14 tires on the stock Zforce 800 rear rims which run 26x11x14's? Thanks man ! Trying to make a spare.
Yes you can
@@R.N.GPerformance you are awesome man, thanks👍👍👍
I’m curious about the wheel spacers I ordered the same set you did for your wife’s the 2 inch and when I installed one on my trail 800 I noticed there is only a half a nut of threads that would be holding it on. Wanting to know if you changed out the studs or just went with it with a half a nut which seems a little iffy to me.
I’m having same problem
Can we get answer to this question I have not put my on because of this
Did you watch the video? I had to trim my studs because they were too long.
Did you guys use the links for the spacers in my video?
@@robertpreston2229 i have the same problem, did you find out anything, i done some research online and they say a rule to thread engagement is 1 times the stud diameter, so the stud diameters of these machines is 10mm and even though are studs are not all the way through the wheel nuts they are on 10mm, so are we ok or not, any help would be great
Can I put the wheel spacers on a 500 trail without the lift.
Yes
Thanks
Are you suppose to use the cf moto lug nuts to hold the spacer on or do you use the provided nuts to hold the spacer on?
The provided ones
Did you have to cut down the studs on your spacers? I got the ones you had linked in the video but the studs are to long for the lug nuts
@@Kryptkeeper911 yes i did.
What length did you cut them at? I really appreciate the help man
@@Kryptkeeper911 you only need to cut about 3 threads off.
I have not watched all the videos but what is the snorkel kit you have?
Chuck Horrisberger it’s a diy kit. Check out the snorkel video brother.
Dude, I just blew out a front driver side cv joint and I hope it wasn’t caused by the 2in lift kit. Beware. What do you think?
Mackle Roy I wouldn’t think I haven’t heard of anyone else with any problems?
But then again I dropped my machine back down to stock height so there isn’t a bad angle on the cf axel but I still don’t see that being the issue. Are yours at a bad angle?
I didn’t think so. It’s in the shop. Hopefully covered by my extended warranty. I took the brackets out of course.
Should be covered. Was you in 4x4?
@@R.N.GPerformance why did you drop it back down? How is the ride now? Did you have to change the suspension?
I saw on another video the guy put both big on the front and both small on the back. Does it matter if you do it this way or the way you did it.
Not really the holes are the same distance how ever you can make it work.
Ok thanks
I was putting my lift on today and I was going to use the smaller set on the front and the larger set on the back but I noticed I didn’t need to trim the pieces like you said. Could it be different on the 2021 500 trail.
And if I do big ones on the front I’ll need to trim all 4
I have a 2020 Zforce 800ex. Is there any way to lift one of those
Yes. czcams.com/video/VgcpQHRnfac/video.html
Or you could buy elka shocks. Check out my elka videos and where to get them.
how does this compare to the perfex lift kit?
It does the same thing really. His is bolt on no fab.
Small on the front do not touch the metal on the bottom of the a arm.. so I guess big in front small in rear then ?
Yes sir.
Did you grind down all the parts?
Just front
Would the lift kit work on a Uforce 800?
Yes
Will that lift work on a 2021zforce 950 sport
No. I have a lift kit for the 950 in my amazon store. Can find my store in my channel.
Or here. www.amazon.com/shop/influencer-e043c4e2?ref=cm_sw_sm_r_inf_pub_influencer-e043c4e2__mw_nURqaxvPZPCHd
@@R.N.GPerformance ok
you have too look at it different the settings are fast and slow not hard and soft if your on slow rebound the suspension will take to long to return
CF MOTO DUDES oh. I got ya now. That makes sense. Thank you.
On the front lift do you trim lip on all four?
Just the front
Just the front two ?
@@nomacc7752 yes sir
Thanks
Yw
Will this also work on 800 trail
Yes
Will this work the same on a 800ex
Yes
So the lift kit narrows the width of the utv
Joshua Gomez yes. And it will make it more top heavy.
@@R.N.GPerformance WHAT SIZE SPACER DO YOU RECOMMEND?
How many Psi on your front and rear tires on the z500? For Better ride
oscar oli 10 is what I run
10 Psi ,, all around? Front and rear tires?
Yes sir. That’s what I run in all my off road toys.
10 Psi on all 4x ,,, I’m gonna try that. Thank you for the tip
Can the rear lift be installed on the a arm?
No
@@R.N.GPerformance mine is so yes
Its not supposed to be because of the E brake. What year do you have older years can be. Newer no.
It is suppose to be as designed, it's a 2018
Ok.
How long of volts did you use?
?
BOLTS
@@michaelmessin5307 im not sure on length exactly. They come in the kit
@@R.N.GPerformance thank you
Cforce 500
I wish you would've shown where you drilled the holes and the rear.
It’s easy brother. Put the mounts on with the center hole tighten it up make sure it’s nice and straight then drill some holes. All your doing is putting holes in to make sure it don’t move back and forth.
@@R.N.GPerformance 10 4, thanks. Installing on my wife's 500trail this weekend, along with 1 inch spacers and 28in tires.
Was that a lil kid u had talk like that at the beginning of the video??
sub4 trump 20' is a little kid. I have no idea who the kid is it was a video i found on the internet. I find it funny. Some folks dont. But thats the problem with the world today. Too many up tight folks.
No, I have never trimmed them, they are the length they were from the factory, they are 7/8 long
Zerks...... sorry...
That intro made me sad
Some think its funny some don’t. Its hit and miss. Ya gotta live a little.
@@R.N.GPerformance live you videos btw. Looking to get uforce 800 and putting some elka stage 1 shocks for it to make it a sport utility. Your videos helped me quite a bit.
Thank you. Much appreciated. That would be awesome. You will definitely enjoy those shocka