BMW N62 Reliability 2019 545i 550i 645i 650i 745i 750il X5 X6
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Not sure why everyone hates on these. I have a 2005 645ci with the n62. It has no oil or coolant leaks, no stem seal issues. It is a beast of an engine with v8 character that cannot be compared to the 6 cylinder. As with all engines the key to success is very regular oil changes.
Craig Stevens same as mine runs nice x5 2005 4.8is
Best change your oil every 3 to 5 thousand miles. Will help it last longer.
I have a 08 650i convertible with only 41k miles. It has more problems than a Math book. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
JP FRANÇOIS like what? Tell me
@@OzzyTheFerret129 AC comes out at ambient temp, not cold. I scanned it and the code I got is for the temp control, I replaced it, same problem. My transmission kicks from 2nd to 3rd gear always.. I replaced the fluid, same problem. ☹️
I have a 2008 550i and I absolutely love it. My dad and I had the car on jackstands in the driveway for a week waiting on parts to come in, but we ended up doing the upper timing cover gaskets, valve cover gaskets, and the alternator bracket gasket all at the same time. About 30 hours of work total, but I’ve put 10k on the motor since and she’s run like a bat out of hell. One of the best bargains on the used car market as of right now, if you know how to work on them.
What is the car actually time acceleration now ?
10k for whst
Thanks for the heart attack
About a year ago I fully rebuild N62 on 04 X5, was a pretty cool project. If you replacing chain guides and your car 04 and older make sure to buy new bolts for them as they were redesigned with chain guides in 2005 and newer if I'm not mistaking.
Damn.... did bmw forget how to make reliable engines after the 90s???
I have a e65 745i with 300 000 km on the clock, and pretty much all the issues Nathan mentioned I’ve been thru mostly fixed by myself but still drives very good.
I have a E38 740Li from 96...runs very very good ....330.000 km.....
I think to buy a E65/66....what do you think ....its a biig diference between those two ?
Mine on 338,000km. Still has most of the power.
All the commenters below saying "never had an issue" yata yata, are so full of it. My 1 owner E53 had FAILING VALVE STEM SEALS by 60k. Don't tell me I didn't maintain, because it was cared for particularly well; its been living in the garage its entire life. At 77k the items I had to replace on my N62: valve stem seals, timing cover gasket, passenger side PCV diaphragm, alternator/VR, leaking power steering reservoir & thermostat. Don't get me wrong, its a (relatively) reliable motor, but I don't want to read some bullshit about your cars reliability because YOU own it! Cant wait for when I get hit with the inevitable: coolant crossover pipe, exploding expansion tank, alternator bracket gasket, a new one- Valvetronic servos?, etc etc etc... N62 & no oil leaks... what a load of horse shit. Im starting to think these engines are so reliable because of the oil top ups they get every 3 weeks...
I just changed the valve cover gaskets, timing cover gaskets, vacuum pump gasket, and oil pressure switch. While the valve covers were off I took a syringe and dropped bars valve seal conditioner directly over the valve springs to soak the rubber seals. I let it sit a couple days , and also changed the blow by hose set up to run from bank 1 to upper manifold and bank 2 to lower. I have not had exhaust smoke since completing this. 545i 293k miles.
Mine was smoking like a diesel when I got it, but the broker I bought it from covered the valve seal job. Other than that, was a blast to drive. The 4.8 made lots of power combined with the six speed auto.
Warning long comment
Have you ever tried using AT205 reseal in a 545i 6spd N62 who's stem seals just started leaking???
I did to mine and it absolutely cured it.
I did this after retiming the engine and replacing all of the valve cover seals.
I was so fed up that I had to take them off again I decided to try.
Now I'm putting a btl in every time I change the oil (mobile1 0w40) and hengst filters.
I do this every 6213 miles(10K kms). I've put almost 40K miles on it far and no issues.
The reason I had to retime the engine though was the massive oil leaks when I got it allowed the bank2 5-8 cyl. both cams to advance 30degress on the exhaust and 23on the intake and they wouldn't return. It caused an erratic misfire that every shop thought was the timing chain skipped, but I felt it, it was tight. So I just had to readjust bank 2 vanos adjuster and install new cam bolts.
The old shop put in new coils and plugs and vanos solenoids for me before giving up.
My dad bought me this car 2 weeks before he died because he got it for 500$ and he knew I could fix it. Or maybe he thought he was trying to teach me a lesson.
I'll never sell this car its tooo damn fun to drive, WAY better than my e39 540i sport wagon.
Just the active suspension, Napa leather cooled seats, the turn in is incredible compared to the e39 wagon.
I may sell my wagon and supercharge it, or maybe even vice versa.
I dunno, I always try the easy shit first as sometimes you make more problems by going straight to doing the stem seals.
BMW’s Problem child
I’m very happy for you that your able to build such a nice shop. Thanks for what you do also with putting out BMW instructional vids. You do a nice job it’s very much appreciated. Best of luck with finishing your shop.
07 Bmw 550i 160k Replaced Alternator Bracket gasket, Valve cover and valve stem seals. The Alternator Bracket Gasket pain in the ass to get to. Only 17 and did it off youtube tutorials. Anything is possible to do. But over all amazing car now ive moved on to the n63tu.
justin bot2 would you recommend getting one At 102k miles
cool i’m almost 17 too about to do the alternator bracket gasket 😬 see if it runs after that then replace the valve cover & timing cover gaskets
@@iiplaya Whats the issue you are having right now? I replaced alternator bracket gasket do to oil leak.
@@justinbot2878 I didn’t start working yet. All i did was clean the mold out the interior today. Need jack stands and a couple u joints to get to the motor mounts. It has 150,484 miles. It’s been sitting since october of 2015 so i need to siphon the fuel change the oil & add coolant before trying to start it. Last thing I remember it was in limp mode, so i’m really going into an unknown space trying to fix this thing. I’m hoping it won’t need more than a couple fuel tank cleaners and a battery after i’m done with all oil leaks… What else did you do to your n62 since your original comment was a year ago?
Jeez. Just bought an e53 3.0 a month ago, was looking initially for an n62 however watching this I believe I made the right choice, with lack of power but the right choice. Great videos!
This is the only bmw channel I’m subscribed to 👍
Great video Nathan, and the shop progress looks great too...That alternator bracket seal is behind the driver’s side engine mount, so not such a bad job if one is doing the timing chains already, but a pretty lengthy process if that’s the only job being handled...the other thing to watch out for on there is the headlight wiring insulation peeling off inside the factory headlights, but that’s more of a general e60 issue, and I’m sure you’ve encountered it already. Thanks for the video and have a great weekend!
Owned many many cars. 550i and 545i are more reliable than my Toyota’s and audis. They are incredibly good cars I would highly recommend you buy.
Also, a lot of these problems could be avoided if you run a cooler thermostat. The heat kills the valve stem seals and plastic parts, including the chain guides.
You'll get a check engine light for coolant temp too low, unless you code it out, but these engines will last a lot longer. They only run them so hot for emissions purposes.
The engines are meant to drive hard. At least once a month, u need to hit the paddle to the metal to prevent carbon build up
Jesus Christ, looks like I'll be keeping my E46, E38 and E39.
F10/11 is pretty stable. Mine has been flawless more or less.
Blood Carver is that the 5 series ?
@@bloodcarver913 I drove the F series and found it drove like a Camry. I'm not kidding. I even drove the 550i. I can't believe how watered down they made the 5 series.
E90 ftw)
2007 550i 6 speed manual 152k regular maintenance 3rd owner no issues but the headlights ( clearcoat peeling off)
use 3m headlight cleaner then buff them out
Must be a lot of fun with a 6 speed manual
Yes it is @ 405 hp and a cat back exhaust it's like having an M5 for a fraction of the price and all the reliability
What’s you’re regular maintenance? I have an 06 550i as well?
@@trev413 Just oil changes every 5k miles and whatever it needs when it needs. Had to do brakes recently expansion tank failed a month ago but not stranded 45$ part 10 minute fix and now have to do the whole front end struts control arms bushings and hubs but that is normal ware and tare it’s going to happen car now has 157k but I would not trade it for anything else
You forgot the biggest one! The intermediate levers go bad and cause rough idle at first and then they get progressively worse until it just doesn't run properly and you have to get new levers. Expensive job. Easier to get a new motor sometimes.
I picked up a 2005 x5 4.4 with the sport package for $500. Had a bad engine. Bought a junkyard engine for $350 from pick a part. Got lucky, it runs great. After changing the vanos seals and cleaning the solenoids, that is. Ran like shit until I did that. Put it on INPA and checked it all out, runs smooth like butter now. Passed California smog no problem. It's my daily driver for the last year. Knock on wood!
I'm one of those with an N62 with no issues. I've had it since it had 15K miles, it has now around 90K miles. Yea, I'd say relatively low miles, plus mild weather and garaged most of the time have had a lot to do with it being this reliable.
I disagree with your statement highly unreliable but this is my opinion.
These are just normal bmw repairs that any owner will encounter if you own the n62
Early n62 with had issues with the intermediate levers also causing multi cylinder miss fires
The oil and coolant leaks are pretty easy repairs to complete if your handy with tools and patient
Yes if you take it to the shop you will pay a small fortune
I have done many of the repairs you mentioned and alot of stem seals also at around 180-200k is when I have been replacing them and it is a tedious task but not hard
Anyway enjoy watching your vids 👍 just wanted voice my opinion as i love the v8 bimmers maybe it because I own one and have had for a long time as a daily driver
Matt Woodcraft yes the 04 n63 after 05/04 they where good to go no more cold start misfire
I mean n62
Mine runs good as a daily don’t know why they shit on them
Good video.....i have an 05 645ci with 175k...just done tranny..rebulit, rear seal valve cover, etc...the only code left is po491-92....you can't really enjoy these cars becuz majority of the time they're in the shop for something sensitive, which sometimes is costly..had mines for 7 years now ,paid 25k , who ever had it b4 me couldn't keep up with maintainance, and replaced the parts with aftermarket , these cars must have oem parts in order too performed effortlessly , this is why many people are buying Japanese cars.......
Anything v8 is a money pit, the N63 engine drink oil like an Irish at the bar, in-line 6 is the best engine from bmw.
I have to disagree. I have a 2006 550i . Maybe burns 1/2 quart every 10,000 miles. My car has 240k on it. Mobil 1 0w40 Walmart . Cost me $52.00 for oil and filter. My shop changes it out for $20 bucks. Not Bad.
Brandon Lerman the bmw N63 engine is a terrible design that wasn’t ready for marketing, yes they’ve had good achievements with the fuel injected turbocharged v8 putting out enough horsepower with great gas mileage, but the design has many flaws to it that will end up affecting the driver financially, seals are always leaking due to the massive heat, so with the engine itself burning oil, you have to deal with oil leak as well, there was a huge lawsuit against bmw on this particular engine, and that’s because the design is still poor, and shouldn’t have been released to buyers, because it’s a money pit, the in-line 6 is a far better engine, and in my opinion still very fast with even 300 horsepower, some people are stuck with the v8 but these engines are like problematic children with ADHD you have to stay on top of them financially, just imagine the amount of drivers who ended up buying one of these engines, and have no clue what they are up against, leaking oil burning through coils, causing a misfire, reduced engine malfunction, main fuel pump failure, and the engine saying low oil level, it’s a financial suicide to add oil in an engine that doesn’t have a measurement dipstick, that stupid computer in the dash will say oil level fill, but then you could be flooding the engine with oil, honestly bmw have lost their god damn mind, I still love bmw vehicles though.
@@brandonlerman1540 every 10,000 miles! no way how come mine is asking for 1 litre evry 7000 km 2007 550i.
@@brandonlerman1540 I have a 2006 550i as well with 154k miles on it ! whats your regular routine to keep it running right ?
@@trev413 Mine still running good. I have not done much to it in 2 years has 255k miles on it now. I am running 0w40 Mobil 1 from walmart 5 quart jugs changed every 8k miles or so I burn about 1- 1.5 quarts every 8k miles I buy two 5 quart jugs engine holds 8.5 quarts and I top off the remaining 1.5 over the 8k interval korean oil filters on ebay like 8$ I dont drip any oil. I am running base standard ngk spark plugs and chinese ebay ignition coils changed twice since I had the car so every 40k. I did have a problem with the rubber crank case vent valves they rip and thought was the plugs had a misfire. Cheap fix like 10.00 bucks for the rubber valves. They are easy to swap out right on top the motor I would replace these if you are bored watch a you tube vid. I am running 50/50 standard supertech walmart coolant. I bought the car from a wealthy lady and she did both the major known problems of the car the valve guide seals and alternator bracket oil gasket. Those services were done around 100k miles ago or more about 7 years ago. I say once these engines are sorted they are very good in my opinion. Change the oil every 7500 miles maybe you wont have the valve guide issues. I did have the coolant leak near the back of the transmission hard fix like two years ago I put in a package of bars leak powder stop leak $7 bucks and I could not believe it fixed the leak. Also 2 years ago I replaced the hard plastic return coolant hose that runs on top of the radiator the hard plastic cracked and had a leak I spliced in a copper fridge line hose I got at home depot like $15 bucks better than a new bmw hose. Maybe I have been lucky but I have drove the hell out this car with not much trouble in the last 4-5 years same can be said for my e39 540i I owned in the past and a 2003 M3 drove the heck out those cars with little trouble as well. I hope my luck continues will drive it till a major failure only paid $4500 for this car and put 70-80k on it last 4-5 years and it still looks good nice paint and pretty good smooth fast power. Good Luck with yours.
This is not a troll question... I promise. How do these repairs compare to a Lexus GS of similar year? No car is perfect and I'm sure the Lexus at this age has issues, but I'm really curious how they compare in terms of cost and time.
Im not even trying to sound savage, just informing those who really want a real bmw to get the 550i. Dont coward out and get the i6 because you read its more reliable. Only get it if you like the sound and really want it but trust uou want the real car, the 550 not the 3.0 liter although theyre fun, manly engines they arent a real sports beast like the 550i. Youre already buying a Godamn bmw. You might as well get a fast one. Not one that makes you think everyday what if I got the v8. Trust me the v8 is a real monster and its perfectly affordable. Coming from a young man who
Isnt spoiled and likes to have fun and get nice things. U got this. Get you this ferocious beast u wont regret it
I think that n55 made n62 pretty much obsolete. I don’t see any reason to get 545i instead of 535i. Even n54 powered 535i is probably more reliable
Hi Nathan, Another informative video,I wish I'd seen a clip like this before I bought my E60 545i ,had it about 2 years they are relatively cheap here in NZ for a Japanese import RH Drive,mines done only 75K's for a 2005 model.Its a great driving car have replaced leaking valve covers myself and the alternator bracket seal.Next on the list is it has a bad water leak from rear of engine.Looks like I'll be dropping the trans out to fix this and thankfully my garage has a pit.Its quite disappointing to have so many engine and electronic issues you really need to be car savey to own one of these cars,I'll guess I'll go back to the six pack,but only the V8 sounds like a V8.....Cheers ...
One common failure on the N62B44 is the DIVA(Not DISA FLAP) motor on the back of the intake it doesn't throw a code on the screen but if you check in INPA very often the motor isn’t working.
Oh and the oil pressure sender leaking.
My n62b44 ran low on oil and the bank 2 head’s cam adjusters advanced 30 degrees and required retiming. The fault was an intermittent misfire on all cylinders of bank 2 (5-8)
Keep hearing a common theme from videos froM Nathan and others is be religious on the fluid changes. I have a 2006 650i convertible with 73k miles and knock on wood no issues so far. I’m deploying the schedule of remove and replace all the components I can get too, add liquid moly oil saver, liquid moly injector cleaner change fluids and 🤞diminish the probability of big time issues, just want this car for a fun summer/fall drive and get 3 more years and any day after that is a blessing.
And for reference I also do my 2012 F150 king tang ecoboost every 7500 miles and do the major fluid changes as suggested and knock on wood all is good and I have 146k miles on it. It’s my main drive car too. This one I also want to keep for 3 more years.
Excellent video Nathan 👍 have a good weekend
I have a 2008 650i and my alternator bracket gasket went while I was traveling and cost $2200 at the bmw dealership and was less than $100 in parts.
Did this part 1 month ago. Had to dYI it cause damn it was too expensive.
I have 09 550i M-sport, love it. It does leak oil but it’s only loosing 1qt every oil change 5k miles. I also have 159k miles on it.
Unreliable but how do I get 480k on my bmw 545i E60 N62B44
Haha I got 192k on my n62 runs smooth
Bs means what ?
cek151 russo brilliant start 🤣
@@danielzechariah7263 😅😅😅😅
Daniel Zechariah thank you 😂👍👍👍
cek151 russo it means bullshit mate don’t let them fob you off with brilliant start
Like your new shop looks great
Another great video and I'm looking forward to this series Nathan. Can you mention in the next video where you get your parts and some more good honest parts suppliers we can order from? Thanks in advance, Clay
08 750li with about 94k. My valve stems have been done but this video makes me worry. Doing the guibo this weekend but other than that its been a great ride. Going 120mph it seems like Im not even moving.
No need to worry, All the 50's are good. Engine update in 2005.
@@richyoung8278 what is updated? Im looking for 72K mi 07 550i, scared about stem seal rn..
Looking into buying a Low Mileage 135. 2010, 1 owner 53k miles, White exterior, red interior, convertible top. Thoughts? Btw I am an experienced BMW owner I have had a e46 330ci zhp for 2 years and have multiple friends with 335s.
the cars so small its hard o work on just fyi
Thank you Mate, awesome advice
The vacuum pump/booster oil has/had a recall on it.
Hey buddy - where abouts are you? I’m in Sydney Australia 🇦🇺....
My 2010 550i has 157000 miles. So far so good. Need new battery because I have been resetting my clock. Scared of the valve stem seals issue because mine is high mileage. Very informative video, I wish you lived near ks city I'd let you work on my car.
What is the actual time ( acceleration ) for the car now ?
I've done 3 or 4 alternator mounting bracket oil leaks. And yes they suck Its an all day job with a lift.
Shop looks good
Thanks for the pipe cleaner thing. I’ll see if it’s safe to do it but have you seen anyone try it
Horrible engine. BMW can’t build a good V8 engine. Ever. Bmw junk. And I know cuz I work on it every day. Shity quality Bmw
I appreciate it NATE
Nice video. Nathan I have a quick question about this engine. Is the compressor clutch always spinning in this engine, even if the AC is not on? I appreciate your answer. Thanks.
The answer is yes, the compressor is clutchless and the pulley is always spinning even when it's not on. Mines uses Denso 7SEU17C.
Much appreciated
what year is this car? intake manifold looks different than mine
n62 time,thx nathan
take it from me...DON'T BUY IT (650i with N62)...i own one
Dam I was getting 1 sunday now I'm not forsure
The M62B44, 4.4L V8 in the e39 is a lot more reliable as far as I know. It has no Vanos, which is a good thing.
most of em have the vanos mine doesent tho
@@BmwMe-uh9sy mine dont ...96 m62b44....740Li
Septimiu Razvan Bot well ye 98 and up
My 550i. M.T. had every one problem. 4 yrs. Had enough b.s. dump the car for nothing
Glad I found this channel. Picking up a 545i 6 speed this week and now I know what to look for. But I got an off topic question. What's to stop me from swapping in, let's say, a 6.4 hemi. The canbus is all I could figure out being the issue so if I swap the motor an ecu what would stop working? I think it's a success if the car starts and run and everything else can be mitigated
I was thinking of trading my audi for 1 that's bagged with 90k miles but now thinking might not
How much does the whole 4.4l engine weight
What do you think of the n62 4.8i
BMW update the N62 4.8i in 2005. They are very good engines
The n62 engine is a reliable engine with regular Maintnace , and has plenty of power left on the table, reflash the ecu and tcm and you will unlock the true nature of the n62 and zf transmition.
what do you mean
I have a question is this on engines with high miles or even engines with low miles like 40k miles ??? Thank you !!!!!
High miles man I have a n62 sinc it had 98k miles and now it’s at 163,000 and just now the valve stem seals started going bad but it’s been a long time
What steps do I need to take to maintain these weak points & prevent them from being problematic? 08/e60/550i
I put AT205 reseal in my 545i when the seals started smoking. It totally fixed them. I recommend adding a bottle to every oil change just to keep the oil seals on the engine supple.
On top of changing the oil frequently.
@@reginaldbowls7180 How often do you change your oil?
@@PLABOI83 10k/kms=6.2k/miles 0w40 mobile1 (cheap at Walmart) hengst filters.
@@reginaldbowls7180 Down the comments I keep seeing people using 0w40. Why that over like a 5w30 or 5w40 for this engine?
I've been doing my oil every 7-8k or so & I've been using 5w40 Liqui Moly
I’m dying to buy a 650 with 30k miles 2010 , I drive apr 5k pr year . How long to major problems , as I keep my cars well maintained ???
Some say they are terrible others get hundred of thousand of miles . Thanks
from what ive gathered most of the problems have to do with oil changes, if they recommended that 2010 get oil changes every 10k imagine if it has only had 3 oil changes in 10 years, that kinda deal
@@tjkoko2001 Hi yes that sound right , for they must be good engines, many engines can be fragile if the oil is not looked after . Thanks
Too many Commercials lost interest finding a competitor video
Im fixing a 2003 4.4 v8 X5 do you have any videos? Also what software hardware to test the CAN bus communication volt waves to diagnose which component is making my and DSC ABS and Break on dash lights up, I had ABS module rebuilt and can see wheel speeds and the transmission safe mode came off but not the lights on dash and still have the CAN error codes, I just do t want to rebuild every module but DSC you think next?
Try posting on xoutpost.com, have similar vehicle as you
Steering angel sensor did you recalibrate it will give you that error did you take battery cable off and reconnect it and turn wheels lock to lock
So...
M62tu > N62
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@@NilsJakobson > means greater than. I was asking if M62 is (greater than) N62
@@NilsJakobson then I bought the correct car for once. Hooray!
is that two valvetronic i seee? fuck that motor!
I have that motor Nathan 4.8is x5 I have done all the jobs you said if you need me I’m here
Nathan
The N62 blows dude
50 more things 😂😂😩
Ultimate POS machine. Lol
That’s all because they where not maintained
😢
Nathan, you are an idiot
First
you need to do N62 also,ditch that mini
jayman mate I’m just doing it for videos and it’s going but I won’t be doing n62 I already have the next channel car 😉 as some I speak to on a regular already know you guys are gonna love it but I won’t say anything yet otherwise I will get pestered for videos on that need to do that mini sell and start the next one but trust me it’s a good one
Nathan got this to take all the people off my back who keep asking me for this , but I have something ALOT better something everyone has been requesting on nathans channel and mine