The best "FUN" audiophile headphone at ANY price: Empyrean mk2
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- čas přidán 7. 11. 2023
- The Meze Empyrean V2 is surprisingly close to the HE-1 for a fraction of the price. In this video I talk about the ups and downs as well as cover objective sound/frequency response. Also in this video is @JoshuaValour
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Time to buy these instead of tuition
That's the spirit!
This is the correct prioritization.
This will at least add value to your life and make you happy
Better spent
Right there with you friend
The 4:3 is interesting, though CZcams's compression was very unkind to it.
just having fun
@@DMS3TV By all means. Just was an observation. I think CZcams allocates a disproportionately lower bit rate to lower res video.
Actually, I just checked it again and I think I may have originally watched the video before it was fully processed, maybe. It had the HD symbol before so I assumed it was processed on YT's end but it was very blocky. Now it looks much better. My bad.
@@jafizzle95 nah you're good. The bitrate is lower than normal too. Was going for a smaller file size but maybe went too small.
He's just going full IMAX haha
@@DMS3TVAs an 80s child, I love it. Feels spacious, too. 😅
I love Meze, they are easy to work with and continually release amazing products. Sure it might now be my favored sound signature, but you have to give respect to their team for the meticulous work they do.
Nice, will buy them.... just will have to: stop showering, stop eating, stop using electricity for 4 months and im all set... Thanks DMS 😅 🤨
Beans in a can are my friend now.
@@DMS3TV Tinned beans are an audiophile's greatest source of protein in this day and age
Great video! ❤ Nice seeing the collab with Joshua.
the effort you put in a video for such a niche a hobby is amazing!
Great review video, especially the ending soundtrack by Ooyy (Siren Screen) :) Very informative, especially showing the frequency response. Wish you can post the THD also in the future, so we know how much we can EQ before hitting 3% THD at those frequency range to be ED'ed. Can you also post more of the HE-1 measurements, FR, THD, ....
I placed an order for the Empyrian 2.
Great video and satsfying b-rolls :D
4:3 seems cool. I love it!
Your exit music is so awesome. Please Provide a longer version of that music only.
Siren Screen - Ooyy, enjoy
As an iPad user, the taller aspect ratio was nice to see!
Gonna buy a few for me and my audiophile family. Christmas has come early!
I've always thought this line of headphones is the most beautiful, sounds it's also now really worth owning. Thank you guys for the review.
yeah
even the lowest miracle sounds better than any universals
Joshua’s velour:
It may be the best headphone ever 😆🤣😂
Thanks for the laughs, needed that.
I think word "BEST" is overused nowdays...
I really hope these are at CanJam Dallas this weekend
I'm kinda in love with square format. Somewhat split between "I'm ticktocker" and "I had CRT when I was a kid" kinda vibe.
I compared Empy I, Empy II, and Elite at CanJam Dallas. Empy II was way more clear, balanced, and detailed than Empy I during my quick comparison. The Elite was still a bit better, but maybe not $1000 better. However, it was different enough that you could probably justify owning both (if you have that kind of money to spend).
Great stuff! Very excited to try these!
Ugh I wish these were on AutoEQ already! In the meantime I did a quick EQ to the bass region to bring it down slightly which does remove the warmth from it. And of course reduced the 6kHZ bump down to listener preference. Brings it really close to Harmon, but actually crazy close to HE1.
Super interesting that this measures similarly to HE-1
No wonder i enjoyed it so much more then the susvara did and i thought it was because i got an extra dose of caffeine in the morning, these cans taught me that i enjoy good tuning over party technicalities
Nice video.
So, how does it compare to the Elite?
Can't wait to find how these compare to the ZMF flagships like the Atrium
Caldera most importantly👀 I have a VC already but now Meze dropped this
Love the 4:3. To me still the best tv show aspect ratio.
I hate that movies have moved towards being filmed in 21:9.
I wonder how it compares to the Modhouse Tungsten in sound.
Love the M15 too with the Arya Organic - is that way better?
I swore after I got my LCD-2 with a dead driver refurbed AND picked up an original HD800 used I within 2 months of each other I was done chasing headphones. Never owned a Meze, debating if I want to pick this up or not.
holy mic noise floor!
What would be an equviliant iem of the same quality/fun sound but potentially cheaper?
I know headphones/iems are completely different but I know you can get better cost/sound parity with iems.
Bass with end game detail/treble is I think my sweet spot
Open gate looking awsome
Hi thanks for video, i am so hyped. Is possible compare MEZE EMPYREAN 2 and hifiman arya organic or is other league? Thanks for answer.
Empyrean V2 is 3000$ while Arya Organic is 1500$.
We should compare it with HE 1000 Se 2
@@Krishnakumar-wl7ih I know about price different but me personaly i like much more arya organic then HE 1000, thats why i asked about compare arya vs empyrean 2
I would love to see a comparison between the empyrean V2 and the ZMF Atrium.
DMS , Thanks Much !.......
How do these sound for imagine compared to the HD800s, and despite having a 6K boost just like those headphones, is it at least less annoying on the Empyreans? Looking for a headphone upgrade specifically for movies when using the Smyth Realiser A16. Right now I'm using the DT1990s (different pads) and the non-S HD800s. The HD800s have a slightly more open sound stage over the 1990s, but not by a huge degree, and the 1990s just have a more pleasing sound overall.
Should I get these and the MM-500? I have the LCD-5's and something about them are just amazing. I just wish they had a bit more punch in the average bass and bass drum frequency. I have a bit of an EQ on them to add a bit of bass an a touch of treble. I have Stellias, Clear MG pros (2 sets) Arya Stealths, DT1990, and 1770 pros and others. I think I might have to sell some and get Empyrean 2's, MM-500's, and Arya organics, and sell the LCD-5's Arya Stealths, and 1 set of Clear MG pros. I'm a musician who likes a very accurate sound of what I have recorded...reverbs, panning, compression, mic placements, room etc.. Should I really sell the LCD-5's, Stealths, and one set of Clear MG pros to get some newer sets or is this an never ending circle? I use an RME 2/4 the 2023 updated version with better DAC and Headphone amp.
Title had me thinking this was another ~$300 king... oh boy was I wrong!
yeaaaaah she's pricy
I like Meze a lot, if only for their attention to detail on ergonomics and their overall headphone build. They feel the price. I had the original Empyrean and I currently own the 109 pro and Liric and for me, the 109 pro (with pad swaps) is just everything I wanted from the OG Empyrean and more. I never disliked the OG Empyrean, it sounded a little safe to me and while they were plenty warm I was never satisfied by the bass, I legitimately wanted more. This revision seems much more appealing but in now owning the 109 pro and the HiFiMan HEKse, both of which are considerably less expensive.. eh it's a hard sell. No doubt the build is amazing but I still think it's going to be impossible for Meze to beat the value of the 109 pro (again, with swaps).
They could if the empyrean wasn't a joke of a headphone for $3000. I'm not even talking about it's boxy, very underdeveloped tuning. The driver legitimately is less detailed and resolving than a Edition xs. Get a zmf caldera if you dont want a detail king, but warm tuning. That headphone at least has OK technicals for the cost even if its not great. The empyrean is destitute in comparison.
What pads did you like with the 109 pro?
@@mattrismatt Auteur suede
@@dasninjastix The solid ones? I would think they would make the overall presentation a bit too warm… at least, for me. I liked the 109’s spaciousness and clarity that the stock pads provided. I rather liked the new Verite perforated sheepskin pads on the 109. Shame they didn’t fit properly.
@@mattrismatt the solid ones yes, my tastes my differ from yours but the low end sounds more spacious to me the top end a bit more tame and natural. I stretch them over the ear cups (not much of a stretch since the Auteur pads are large). I don't hear them as warmer, I hear them as more bass full neutral.
Out of all brands, if I was to spend that much on headphones, I would get these. Why? To me, the value is extremely high for the price.
It has exotic styling that reminds me of current Bugatti and McLaren models; that mix of different materials and manufacturing processes that yields complex, upscale looks.
Then you have the driver technology and philosophy of doing something different not to be different just for being different, but to provide something different that's better.
All in all, I identify with Antonio's mentality. Other companies seem to me almost NPC-like in the way they decide to bring new products and the reasons for doing it.
If I'm paying that much for headphones, I want their sense if value to feel tangible. I want to feel a mental girth and thickness when I look at them.
Most expensive headphones make me feel empty, and then the reviews confirm why I felt that way. Sorry for being so wordy.
Empyrean lets go
So I've had the 800S and the Arya 2 (the head band's PU leather was disappointing and has disintegrated) for some years now, and was wondering, would these be a good addition?
I wonder how the treble peak is compared to the 109 Pro. I loved the 109 Pro but had to sell it because the treble was a little too much.
Why not use EQ?
I really like my Meze 99 Noir. They sound great while having a bit more relaxed high end. I use my Phillips SHP9500 or Austrain Audio X15's when I want a bit more treble detail. For most uses the Meze's are very comfortable and have enough detail without tiring out my ears.
@@kentbergstrom3020i can’t speak for him but for le EQ is really not ideal and i want to be able to plug my headphones into anything and know it is going to sound good. EQ isn’t the solution for me.
Tbh I tried the 109 Pro two times and it was the most awful shit I ever heard somehow. Idk how it got its hype, but didn’t sound good with any song I found for it. Maybe for deaf people. I still prefer the Hd600 under 1000$. Hard to beat :)
109 is totally wrong in the female vocal presentation
amezeing headphones!
I'm saving up for the ZMF Atrium open, but now I need to listen to these before I decide.
I have one I'd possibly sell you if you would be interested
Caldera🔥
I recently bought the Hifiman Arya Organic, how would these two compare? Like the new aspect ratio btw.
This will be more comparable to he1000se .
Anyone know how this compares vs Diana MR or the ZMF Atrium? Although I'm assuming the Diana is far more neutral than the other 2.
Hey DMS are you aware of IAMF?
new open source alter to Dolby Atmos and Dolby Vision
being developed by Samsung and Google jointly.
the 4:3 was smart, you should keep doing it looks class
So you don't feel like the Empy 2's can be used as a reference and potentially to mix with?
nice
depends on how you define fun
How about Tungsten?
soundcore bro, it just works
p.s. im biased against headphones as much as i love them, my bayer's 770 ive gotten through 2 of them, and i wear them out easily or melt them during the summers :(
can you please do review on the new Bose QuietComfort Ultra
Have You heard Solitaire P? Is Emp 2 better than Sol P fun headphone?
Have any had a chance to do a side-by-side comparison with Empyrean 1?
I had Empy 1 once, but I'm found them very bloated, little punch and vocal sounded 😴 In general I think many had the same bad feelings with Empyrean 1.
But this review sounds really positive and like a complete different type of headphone. So I'm so curious, if it just is so significantly different.
This is a fun, square aspect ratio.
How do these compare to the ZMF Caldara?
Also would like to know this
How about ultrasone signature x ?? Would you consider that a cheaper fun brother of this ?? Everyone these days are saying the signature x is "fun" headphone.
Oo, a 4:3 video. Nice.
Me over here with not a care in the world over the empy 2 other than how much will OG empys used prices come down. Will we see 1200 will we see the 1k price point? 🤷♂️
Hey man for some reason only earbud style headphones fit in my ears properly can you suggest a good model plz:')
Simphonio Dragon 3
I have always been curious about the Meze Empyrean 1... So this is too much hype... I really can't justify 3k for headphones. I don't use them so much. I am happy with the Sony IER-Z1R. But if I ever have 3k spare euros, then I already know where I will put them...
Have the Z1R too. Curious as to the open back sound.
Now I'm a bit confused. Did you say in Joshua Valor's video that you prefer them over the Bravura and in your video that you prefer the bravura over these? Haven't listened to these yet and hope to listen to both of them next week. But if it sounds better than the bravura for this price it's a huge compliment.
I said I prefer the bravura for it's neutrality but find the meze more comfortable, and I find the meze more fun.
Thanks for clearing that up. Because for some reason I've misunderstood that you would prefer one over the other.
Serious question, why are we doing 9:9
does it beat a well tuned 58x ?
How does it compare to the Susvara??
How do they compare to Caldera?
Caldera comparison???
Can I drive it with a MacBook Pro m2?
Perfect headphones are so expensive
Does this change everything? Or are we not being enthusiastic enough about audio?
Doesn’t change everything, but it was a really pleasant surprise.
From what you’re referring to:
I still think the tech and potential implementations from schiits new amp is a game changer.
DMS with longer hair is looking younger and younger
funny enough I cut it all off today
@DMS3TV how would you compare the empy2 to the empy elite & and the zmf atrium. Please and thanks 😊
I have Empyrean 1. Any reason to upgrade?
Nah. If the elite wasn't enough to get you to upgrade this isn't either they just want more money.
no not really its supposdily more technical but thats no reason to drop 3k or swithc from an already solid fun set of cans like the og empyrean
@@charliebaker1427nothing solid about the OG empyrean. It's an embarrassment.
@DMS what is that microphone?
it's a 3D printed mic with an SM58 capsule
@@DMS3TV so cool! sounds great!
@@reallyoldcob thanks! 😄
I rather to wait for Tungsten and not throw that much for a FUN headphones :)
i prefer the ultrawide resolution a lot more, felt way more natural and comfortable than whatever this 4:3 is.
Time to sell my Arya stealth, HE 1000 stealth and Audeze MM 500’s then I can afford to get these 😬 lol
A fraction of the price of an HE-1??? SOLD!! I'll TAKE 20!!!
How compressed do you want this video?
144p
Time to buy these and overdraft
time to eat canned beans for a month like me.
I miss the copper color of the original :(
Going from 21:9 to 4:3 aspect ratio. I can't say I'm a fan. Maybe people are switching to old CRTs? So much wasted space on any kind of modern display.
Just having fun :) being a film nerd over here.
may i ask for a small loan of 2 months rent?
there's some background hiss throughout the video
Buddy, I'm digging the 4x3! Better on desktop when using PiP to watch the review while working. Maybe bad on mobile tho.
how is this compared to the Diana MR if anyone has tried both?
MR is more neutral (in a good way) but I also still prefer the comfort of headphones with tilting mechanisms.
Are they better than Diana
I also tried them for two weeks. Let me tell you I don't understand what audeze is smoking when they:
1. market it towards professional audience while having 500 f** grams of weight. While also at the same time having an almost identical unit (lcd5) for like 2.5x of the price that weighs less
2. it's 500 grams, how can you listen to this casually realisticly, just get airpods honest to god...
3. yes they sound good but what for it when they are 500 f** grams
What is up with the Square(ish) aspect ratio of the video. I have to look at thick black bars on my smartphone. I dont think many people have devices with a similar aspect ratio.
Maybe I'm getting unnecessarily mad over a stupid thing but I don't think the aspect ratio is helping anyone...
Finally a good reason to sell my kidney.
Who needs kidneys in stereo when you can have kidney in mono.
This video could've done without the crossover with your friend or at least, more information on the headphone itself (like comparisons, theres a wall of headphones behind you, and the Caldera is like the #1 thing this needs to be compared to). Calling it the #1 fun audiophile headphone is more a headline than it is an explanation of who this headphone is for
I just saw a funny joke I looked at the price of these headphones and I was like yeah right 3000 dollars now that's funny😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Interesting aspect ratio for CZcams
dual posting on twitter so this aspect ratio kills two birds with one export.
daym I'm early
Same brother
Another review another mention for the 6XX which sounds like 2 Amazon Echo dots held up to your ears. And a $3000 headphone powered by a dongle. Watch wave theory's review before spending $3000 the choice is yours.
"multi thousand dollar headphone"
Q_Q
I knew I shouldn't have watched this. Oh, who needs food anyway...
Made in Romania
A perfect 10 like Nadia Comaneci .
I’d rather spend that kind of coin on some nice Focal speakers. Hifi headphones are great and all but prices are getting insane. And anyone that says ‘these are end game’ is deluding themselves
For that amount of money do they wash the dishes to😂
,,Fun" is also subjective, give to this hp epic music and see how it struggles in placing the highs... For me , the most fun sounding hp is OG Empy or Arya Organic, all the way . Two sides of the coin, but not this one. This wants to be both worlds and fails in both ways. But , yes, is a beautiful hp . Doesn't match the price , still.