Why Prince FIRED 'The Revolution'. Dr. Fink on Sunset Sound Roundtable
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- Legendary Prince keyboardist discusses why Prince & The Revolution disbanded.
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Dr. Fink sounds like a kind person. Most people spill the tea, not caring who they may hurt. Much respect and admiration to a wonderful musician. Prince was an artist moving in a different direction than most people, toss in other artists with equalling strong personalities and creativity and things either get interesting in a good way or problematic in a stressful way. The world lost some of its groove when Prince passed. RIP Prince ♂♀
It's noteworthy that most former associates and band members of Prince don't talk smack or down about him in a hurtful way. It means Prince chose quality people and the people understood Prince's personality and work ethic.
Avoid watching people who "spill tea" all the time, you'll see less of it.
Let's face it. Prince wasn't a very nice person. He was a musical genius, just not a people-person.
I respect him for his honesty and respect for other members
The Revolution were an absolutely outstanding band. I recently watched the concert film again. Mind-blowing.
There's a reason beyond nostalgia and image that the majority of Prince fans cite 1999/Purple Rain as their choice for best era of his body of work, and it's the music he and The Revolution created together. There was nothing like it then, and there's nothing like it now. Like many kids in the age range of 10 to 20 years old at that time, we non-stop played and studied this music harder than for any test or homework assignment our teachers could dream of throwing at us.
And one of the greatest highlights of my years being a musician and songwriter was revisiting these albums and songs from a player and writers standpoint. From that perspective, the greatness multiplies exponentially. And, I never could have guessed how much Wendy and Lisa's contributions were to this music until I got a hold of their second studio album. Their influence was massive. And of course Matt, Brown, and Bobby really put the icing on the cake. As a drummer myself, I hear Bobby approach the instrument in many creative and unconventional ways that fit the songs SO well. And when you hear the end of 'Darling Nikki" as a drummer for the first time, you can't help but laugh because Bobby straight sends Dave Lombardo, Lars Ulrich, and Charlie Benate right back to the wood shed.
The right people at the right time in the perfect storm. THAT was The Revolution. Thanks for the great music and memories, Matt. You'll never be forgotten.
Uh..... Much of both of those albumz, iz Prince. TRUE..... Prince rehearsed & let da band b part of da record production, of PURPLE RAIN, BUTT he wrote hundredz of songz, 4 dat 1 movie.
Also..... Prince played drumz on Darling Nikki. Therez a CZcams, which provez it. Prince iz OBVIOUSLY happy about his take, comez off da drum riser & u can hear him reciting linez, 4 PURPLE RAIN, azz it wuz @ dat time. ( UR FIRED. )
Wendy & Lisa - MASSIVELY - helped produce UNDER THE CHERRY MOON. Azz I have said, elsewhere n these commentz, Wendy & Lisa albumz, sounded like UNDER THE CHERRY MOON, without Prince! ( BIG hole n da sound, BTW )
1999 & PURPLE RAIN, were still very much Prince Electro-Funk, productionz.
I don't mean 2 b argumentative. Itz just history, here.
@@Einnor084 The Revolution played on 6 of the 9 tracks but only contributed to writing one song. The rest was all Prince, all the time, all day, everyday! And like you said, they would contribute more later on but it really started on Purple Rain, though Matt and Dez had played on previous tracks.
@@isaiahmarquez9717
YUPPERZ!!!
Prince had Lisa sing lotzo backgroundz wit Jill Jonez, on 1999 & Lisa nfluenced 1999 bcause of chord phrasingz, she'd use n HER compositionz, which Prince asked her about, bcause he found them nteresting. Like I said elsewhere, Prince loved him sum Lisa. Dat GF of herz ( Wendy ) got her sacked.
SMH
I don't feel bad 4 them, like most do. I think they did 4 albumz. STAY, BABY STAY, iz a track dat nstantly comez 2 mind & they also went on 2 Compose 4 film & TV projectz. Datz class!
@@isaiahmarquez9717
DUH revision of history, startz early azz a muggafugga, wit dis 1. ( Prince )
@@isaiahmarquez9717
1 mo thang:
I think Jill Jonez, kinda got it rite, when she said, da Revolution, wuz like Milli Vanilli. Itz an nsult 2 da Revolution, bcause they could ACTUALLY play their nstrumentz & sing, BUTT da bottomline iz, dat they were REALly only a band, azz it were, 4 da movie, PURPLE RAIN.
The Revolution, n REALity, were back-up musicianz, 4 PRINCE! He wuz da band, n da studio. He Wrote/Composed, Produced, Performed/Played all nstrumentz & Arranged all his albumz, on his own, save a guest appearance, here or there, rather it b Matt Fink, Dez Dickerson, Lisa Coleman, or memberz of da NPG. ( Nobody carez about, or talkz about da NPG, tho. )
All of Princez bandz, were put 2gether, n support of any album he mite put out. He paid musicianz a salary, so dat they would b well rehearsed 4 a tour, or TV appearance. Since Prince did mo than I V IV songz, he couldn't arrive n a city, like Chuck Berry used 2 do, & just hire sum kidz, on da spot, 2 back him. Princez stage productionz, required mo ntimate knowledge of his muzak & there wuz choreography, nvolved wit Princez stage presentationz. He did mo than duck walk across da stage. He ndeavored 2 b a neo JB & he accomplished said task, admirably.
I absolutely love the revolution this is a great band I really hate when they broke up 😢
NPG was never my taste.
@@nakahn9106True, NPG was good but it didn't had the emotional presence like the Revolution.
Dr. Fink was awesome from start to finish. Much love to him.
It's amazing to hear Dr Fink speaking, he's always seemed so mysterious.
Fink is the one that played that piano at the end of purple rain song. One of my favourite band members. Prince never fired Fink. He left.
Was it Fink?I thought it was Lisa. I heard another version of why they ended their collaboration. Nevertheless I ❤ dr Fink 😊
@@mrsbluecarit was Fink.
Prince didn’t want him to quit.
What other story have you heard?
Interesting history.
@@mrsbluecarLisa can’t play like that. That was the Dr.
@@isaiahmarquez9717
It wuz Lisa. Shez Classically trained. Dr. Matt Fink, has xcellent Jazz/mprovising skillz. Lisa would still b on stage, playing those string chordz, & Prince would b gone from da stadium! Shez talked about dat, n nterviewz. People would b clamouring 4 ncorez, hardly paying attention 2 whut Lisa wuz laying down. Datz y u don't know it wuz her, 2day.
Her GF Wendy, iz da only reason, she got sacked. Prince LOVED him sum Lisa!
I miss the combo of Prince and Dez Dickerson. Dez added so much to the band, he was so great
It was the same as Morris Day. Both were black. Morris Day was a much better drummer than Bobby Z, but Prince told him he was going for "a new look." Similarly, Dez was black and didn't fit the new look. Prince was trying to attract white fans.
@@RStevenPage Hmmmm….I never looked at it that way. Matt did say Prince was going for a Fleetwood Mac kinda thing with males and females in the same band. I guess it could have extended to racial diversity as well. I’ve never heard this before though. Any interviews with this being talked about by anyone in the know?
@@isaiahmarquez9717 I read both Morris Day's autobiography A Princely Life In Funk plus Prince's unfinished autobiography The Beautiful Ones. To be honest I enjoyed Morris Days book better. Prince had many pictures, but he annoyed me with all those "U"and "2" instead of the words. But both books are a must-have for the Minneapolis Sound fans.
It was probably a racial thing, but then black musicians had to be light-skinned in order for massive success. Think Prince, Michael Jackson and Sade. No way Bob Marley becomes the face of reggae without light-brown skin and European features.
In art, most times it doesn't matter what you do. What you look like while doing it is the most important thing.
Yes stand with Palestine were Wendy and Lisa would be hung for being gay....ahh Stockholm syndrome bro
Young Dez and Prince just looked like rock stars. As a boy growing up loving music, Prince and the Revolution was freedom, it was not the norm visually or sonically. The mixture of guys and girls, Black and white, mixed (Jill Jones) was just, well revolutionary.
I appreciate the respect and care with which you conducted this interview. 💜
Yes, I was impressed with that too. A VERY thoughtful interviewer.
As a kid in the 80's, the Revolution was amazing!
the bands he had after this period, were fantastic players. saw them many times, they tore the house down.
Glad to hear that you plan to interview Brown Mark as well. Get’em all in there 🙏
Mark has a really cool youtube channel .... he doesn't post on it anymore, but there are some awesome videos ... it's under his name
@@groofoot Nice!
@@sabrosapurr .... 8-)
@@groofootHe's still replying to comments there though. 🙂
I have a Dr. Fink fridge magnet, which I made in art class way back in the day. I still use it over 30 years later....
I remember this guy.
Prince was a musical genius, but he also was cold hearted in a way
Do a interview with dez dickerson i always liked him as the guitarist for the revolution
Matt is one of the most genuinely nice dudes I’ve ever met. Truly a good dude.
What a kind and warm person to hear talk about prince his band and just so relaxed..love it.. thats the kind of musician i aspire 2 be …thanks 4 this ✌️😎✨
incredible and so glad this was done - we’re not getting any younger
Can't wait to find out about Women of Sunset, Drew! That sounds amazing! Thanks you Dr. Fink for sharing what you felt comfortable with. 💜
I once talked to a group of kids that never heard of The Doors or Pink Floyd.. They say music never dies, but in a lot of ways, it does..
I'm only 15 and I just found out about Prince and now he's my favorite ❤
@@kaylapeters2403I'm happy you discovered him, but I think the phenomenon of not knowing extremely popular artists is unusual as everyone has their entire discography in their back pocket?.. 🤔.. How could kids not know who Madonna and Michael Jackson are?.. And there are kids that are clueless about them..baffles me..
@@edreid7872do you know what music your great great great grandparents listened too?
@@Gcssdvnkloiutesc If they were considered superstars during their time, yes I do.. It only takes seconds to look for their music on CZcams..🙄
@@edreid7872 name them. Favorite songs?
Prince did what was best for the situation at hand back in the day.
Dr. Fink the funkmaster. Oh Man when I was commin up I tried to emulate all of the synth parts Fink played. The Revolution started it all and will always be my fav. I continued to follow Wendy and Lisa down thru the years. I guess Prince wanted some
new blood and had another vision.
these mics sound great on this!
tha revolution waz tha sh!t, definitely my favorite band that princ had fasho
Beyond question in my opinion the best backup band he ever had. I was blessed to see them in 1983 enjoyed their show.
Well as long as I'm alive Prince will not be forgotten 💖
Prince was a genius, I personally think from top to bottom in terms of artistry, showmanship, musical ability, pioneer... the greatest of all times. However, like a lot of geniuses, Prince was arrogant, a slave driver, a perfectionist, and probably hard as hell to work with. It's going to be his way or the highway. My dad has those characteristics and people with these type of traits are oftentimes very controlling and abusive. Like Prince my dad is also a Gemini. One minute you love them, the next minute you hate them with a passion. 💜
In the end what did it get him? He always trashed Sly Stone about drugs, yet Prince died on the floor of an elevator!
Very nice to see someone who is respectful of the living and the deceased…
To answer the drug question: I’m a dancer, was always very athletic, and am getting older. I use herbs which take time. “Popular” remedies act quickly. Friends who take them really don’t pay attention to how often they take them especially if there are no dire warnings,. They ease the pain and allow them to continue doing what they do (remember, He died before it was widely known how addictive and devastating fentanyl is). I think the other distinction might have been ‘Did Sly need drugs to do his work or was he taking them because he wanted to get high?’ Prince was not into recreational use of substances.
My question is: There were other people at Paisley Park. I know it’s a compound, but was everybody so starstruck or so pissed off at him that no one wondered where he was when he was MIA for hours? I mean he was known for his APPEARANCES at His parties! When I am at someone’s house and they are gone for more than 30 minutes I’m wondering where they are…!?
Truth!!! close on mercurial genius puts you in the line of fire, its AllWays good to know those who were Real with Prince after the albatross of Purple Rain was around his neck-BoyFriend changed. i'll wager he didn't listen to good advice several People who Truly knew & cared about him shared....irregardless his Musical Legacy is intact & irrefutable ✍🏾📖 ⚡☔🌈👑🎶💜🌎
All those are true. But Prince also had a great sense of humor. Morris Day wrote that he knew Prince liked to laugh and that is how Day ingratiated himself with Prince, if that is the right word.
Morris Day also accused Prince of, I don't know if stealing is the right word, but of failing to acknowledge the contributions of musicians he played with.
For example, Prince and Day were in the band Grand Central when Prince got his first record deal. Day claimed that the demo tape Prince sent in was Grand Central music. But was presented as Prince. This was the demo tape that got the music industries attention. Not the music that was on Princes first album.
Andre Cymone said the same thing about other people's contributions were co-opted as a Prince composition.
Of course we're only hearing one side of the story.
Sounds like he was a narcissist somewhat 😳
The Revolution was when Price was at his best. Their sound covered pop/funk/rock/R&B. Under the NPG they reduced to just R&B/funk. The sound was predictable and shallow under the NPG. You can hear the influence Wendy and Lisa had while listening to their solo records.
Remember he was big into jazz and I think since he studied Miles Davis he tried to follow in his footsteps. Whenever Miles recorded a new album he would fire the previous band. He wanted a completely different sound each time.
1999 percent correct!!
The Doctor. Brown Mark. Bobby Z. Wendy. Lisa. And honorable mention Dez M.F. Dickerson. One of THE greatest, coolest, and tightest bands ever. What could've been had they stayed recording together even after splitting from Prince. Damn.
Andre Cymone
Purple Rain is my favourite album of all time and The Revolution were a magnificent band. The production and musicianship is just incredible. As a teenager back in 1984 I still remember how much excitement there was when our local radio station played and advanced copy of When Doves Cry for the first time people kept calling in requesting it to be played again and again. Wonderful memories.
I think Prince cared more about making music than people. Often focused people harm others without realizing their own actions.
Most likely true, I agree. I like to believe Prince had no direct ill will towards others in this regard, that he simply was exploding with musical ideas beyond levels none of us can understand. These interviews help to get a glimpse and perhaps gain more understanding.
When Purple Rain the movie came out, on opening night I went to the 7pm -ish showing, bought tickets in the afternoon. I'd never seen anything like it, or since. People were sitting on the floor from the front row to the screen, up the isles, on others laps, including mine; was a fun night for a 15 year old.
Agreed.
Love how you analyzed and positively explained Prince's actions and motives! Also, I wasn't at theater the night you saw Purple Rain, but your detailed description took me there and gave me happy feelings, as I envisioned it. You are lucky to have experienced Purple Rai for the first time that way. What a beautiful memory and thanks for sharing! 💜💜💜
I appreciate and love your positive and logical prospective towards Prince 💜💜💜
I think he had a complex of abandonment issues which caused him to be self oriented. But his music was a release to fantasize about being and or being truly happy.
Dr. Fink is a classy guy and funky as HELL!! So glad to hear from him
Very interesting interview!
Vary good interview!
Prince was selling out large concerts BEFORE Purple Rain. And yes. Dez was the man.
Looking at Prince's career it's no surprise the Revolution lasted the 4 or so years they did. The only person who REALLY knows why he broke up the band might never have even known himself. It might have been as simple as wanting to move in a different direction - to rip it up & start all over again, a tabula rosa. In the end, it's a bit like sausage, though, isn't it? For those who love it, it's delicious, but do you really want to know exactly what's in it & how it's made?
As a kid I really liked Prince and the Revolution. It was awful when they broke up. He moved around with different players for a while before wotking with another band I liked for the most part, the New Power Generation. But in my mind he never had what he had with the Revolution.
It was a real band, with different members having their own personalities and personas...Everything after that always seemed like: "Here's Prince, with his backing band"...
@@jonathanlocke6404 Totally agree with this.
I always tried to look at The New Power Generation as The Revolution 2.0, just to make sense of it. Not saying they weren't good. They were awesome & brought in the new era.
@@blaquepearlzchocolatediamndz77 I can sort of agree with you. Between the two he had a number of great artists like Sheila E and others. But you are right, it is like the only two times he had a defined band behind him. I think the Revolution was unique in that they all contributed to the songs. New Power Gerneration they had a lot less input than his original band considering what he had done for his career.
Absolutely LOVED Dr. Fink back in the day.
Dressed up as him the Halloween of 1984; true story.
Class act interview.. Dr Fink was / is excellent.. Another great ingredient..
Great interview. Can't wait for Mark Brown's interview! Love all the different perspectives.
Fink's response to the "Kiss" question is great!
That was the best period of Prince. The Revolution was the best.
Yep. Once he broke up the Revolution, that was basically the end of Prince as we knew him.
It wasn't the end of Prince as you knew him. It was the end of Prince as you wanted him to be, which is what he railed at.
@@bigboxerableAnd yet SOTT is his most critically acclaimed album and often cited by fans as his number 1. Go figure. Perhaps you should rethink your statement.
@@Ues2DC Ooh, you’re right!!
Dr. Fink was the only person in the revolution who wasn't trying to look like Prince, it doesn't surprise me that he was offered the opportunity to continue playing after Purple Rain.
Looking back and obviously prince is part of it.. but there was a lot of magic juice that everyone was drinking between this time.. it’s staggering the amount of iconic albums produced around this time.
I never knew that aside from being a great musician Dr Fink was such a cool and loving person, which is some of a rarity coming from the 80's when big egos were domination the music biz. Much kudos to artists like these!
Thank you for this interview. As i teen in the 80's i am a huge fan of all the music from that time,and i don't recall seeing the 'doctor' ever being interviewed. Thanks again. 🤟
I never got what was supposed to be so special about Wendy and Lisa.
A lovely interview and a nice man.
Legend. Class act. Love his T-shirt.
If you're the greatest thing in music, it's not narcissism. It's just reality.
Too bad Michael and Rick and this one and that one also thought they were the greatest in music
cheCK out the whole interview !
💜🐾
Yes he was!
Matthew is the reason I love synths
Dr. Fink played with Prince from 78'-91'..great years. There certainly has not been bad blood recently with Wendy and Lisa considering the Revolution toured from 2017-2019. I got to seem them 2x. a dream come true as I missed them live back in the 80's.
man, hearing this is like witnessing your mother and father split up. but I can also understand from Prince's perspective too. sad sad sad ...
Prince was always innovating. People in. People out ......
We used to cover some their tracks. People loved these songs. They probably still would.
Fink and Mark Brown left at the right ✅ time: better to quit than to be fired.
The late Prince appeared to match the late David Bowie: they both changed their styles after a few albums. Thus, change band members. RIP
Cool 💯😎 Salute
Dr. Fink co credited IGBBN with Eric and Atlanta in 86 Paris show such a lovely funk tune.
Imo I think The Revolution Era was the peak of Prince, such a cool time with really cool music.
Great interview! I loved when the interviewer said, "kids could see themselves in THIS group ". So true because, when i was in the 4th grade in '85 my friends and I would pretend to be The Revolution. 😂
Great interview
I didn’t know who he was
Doctor! Yes. The REVOLUTION was the best thing that ever happened to Prince.. Wendy and Lisa can tell the best story..I also heard that before Prince died he was going to reconnect with the Revolution. I could be wrong but I did read this somewhere.
Man, does Dr. Fink sound like genuine nice guy. The kind of person you could trust your secret with.
The good Doctor Fink. Nice.
Wendy and Lisa wanted to be what Quincy Jones was to MJ and do their Dream Factory album and wanted him with Wendy’s sister and he needed freedom and to be his own artist. They were closing in, on him. He kept most of the other members. Forgot they were hired to be a backing band member. I respected Prince kept quiet about it, even though they played victim some and took too much credit for his genius. I liked all his bands! Enjoyed watching him grow with musicians that were more comfortable soloing and impromptu aftershows like Miko, Shelia E, Eric Leeds, Levi and so on. All his band members were awesome. Prince is my favorite, don’t have a fav band
Complete B.S.. I ran into Wendy and Lisa in 1988 when they told me Prince was not giving them writing creduts- many times over. Quincy Jones, lol
@@amess0stuff89 you really believe they wrote his songs, really??? Prince !!!!. You proving my point. People say a lot when they are jaded. Prince has proved his writing ability. He mentored them, like many others and they seem to be the only ones that take too much credit and no one else. Lisa wasn’t doing that until Wendy joined. And these great writing skills just died when he fired then because they don’t have popularity outside of Prince. Quincy Jones has popularity not lined to MJ
@@zakiasimpson8928exactly. Among many other things, Quincy Jones was Frank Sinatra's arranger. That's a HUGE gig.
@@zakiasimpson8928 From what I can understand, you're a fan. But to argue with what W&L told me - in complete sincerity - is lazy. Artists are not superhuman (otherwise Prince would not have died from a self-inflicted OD) and ain't it funny how Sign 0' The Times is missing something? He never sounded the same after. And I love Prince but facts don't care about your feelings.
@@amess0stuff89 isn’t it funny your a fan of W&L and seem to think they can do no wrong or just automatically belief them, when he has evidence of his ability and whatever they did was from his mentoring. Signs of the Times is his most critically acclaimed album. Prince was making hits before , during and after them . I think mainstream struggled with him firing two white women during the 80s and his next muses being Cat Glover and Shelia E and also him going against the music industry definitely resulted in some black balling. To equate Prince’s genius to them tells me a lot about your fan fair of them.
The revolution was PRINCE he was about his MUSIC!!!!
I'm guessing Fink had a good relationship with Charlie at Music Connection in Minnesota, as he was a Yamaha rep who tutored lots of musicians on the DX7
😶🌫️ I've got dozens of ruff mix cassette copies Kevin Mills shared with me of Prince songs Keith Cohen made off the board in studio A at Larrabee west studios in 1993.
Dr. Fink was the musician of The Revolution that Prince respected the most. In the early years, Dr. Fink was the only musician that played on Prince albums. His solo on Head is classic!
If a young person doesn’t know who Mr Mo Jo Risen is, then it’a due to a lack of proper parenting. He happens to also be one of my favorite poets. Poems. Poems , no less! 😉
I know I attribute my love for many genres of music because of my Dad. Even in diapers he would put the turntable on the floor and let me pull out albums of his collection. I’m in my mid fifties now and still thank him. The sound track of our lives is a poignant gift. To be ignorant of such is to miss out on one of the joys of life.
Morrisons poetry book went under the radar for a long time. Great stuff really.
The 90's were shifting into a predominantly black sound (outside of grunge, alt and boy/girl group). What The Revolution was doing wouldn't have translated as well, and with Prince being the ever-changing genius he was, it had to end. He needed a band that could acclimated and NPG was it. Also, he knew Wendy & Lisa wanted to branch out and it would have been selfish to hold them. I doubt they would have done their solo records/score work if they were still in the Revolution, or probably wouldn't have done it to the extent they did. Revolution is the best Prince era to me, but I'm happy with the vast catalog he produced. I think it was all for the best.
I may be the only one out there, I don’t know, but I think the Revolution was much better that NPG..
Definitely
The music was much more interesting and avant-garde but the NPG were way better musicians.
Sony T and Michael Bland were Prince best Rhythm section ever.
The Revolution was his Pop band
Yes I totally agree.
No doubt
What a cool shirt he has on!
The Revolution was the magic.
They were pretty good but let’s not go overboard
Fun fact - I just found out that Dr. Fink did the beat and synth bass for Dirty Mind, played it for Prince and Prince added the guitar and "bridge" part of the song.
So Dr. Fink, actually co-produced Dirty Mind.... crazy!
That's a great track!
Cool shirt
Prince was very much like Miles Davis & other Band leaders where he wanted his sound to consistently evolve with different musicians. This was fairly normal in Jazz. The only reason it's polarizing here is because its not Jazz.
Frank Zappa the same you are right
I have a personal experience with the man Prince who was most definitely a Narcissist. I had sold out a production in Germany in the early 90s with several local bands, DJs, and models; to be done on a River Cruise boat. Prince didn't understand the liability of a Superstar showing up with his teen age girlfriend. As a Superstar, he couldn't just show up. But you don't tell the Narcissistic Superstar Prince he can't do something. Long story short, in fear of the Superstar Prince getting hurt on their boat, which would break their bank; the boat company CANCELLED MY BOAT. Everyone was standing at the dock when I had to tell all those professional entertainers, we were CANCELLED!!! Prince went on to sell out his show that night and later Marry that teenager. So I found out first hand it's not good to tangle with a "Narcissist Superstar named!" Prince sank my boat production.
Sometimes you just want to work with new musicians.
People say the same about peter gabriel
Very nice man. I flew with him when he was flying to LA to turn himself in for if memory serves for an IRS conviction.
I think Prince's best body of work happened post-Revolution. Just listening to the maturity of his sound and how social he had become lyrically was simply amazing. The jam sessions with the NPG, the rock concerts with 3rdEyeGirl, the Piano and a Microphone tour, the originality of Welcome 2 Americal. His true era happened during the post-Revolution time period. I think Prince had done his crossover thing for the 80s and he was always an artist that was tuned into funk. He got to do that after the Revolution. I can't imagine Prince using those guys past the 90s. I think the music would have been stale. Sort of like Rick James playing the same type of music after the mid 80s. The music critics and media would have ate him alive with a band like the Revolution playing the same tunes repeatedly. Prince, as an artist, needed to grow. He needed the NPG. He never would have gotten the same sound from the Revolution as he did from the NPG, and those long jam sessions and solos NEVER would have happened. The NPG, talentwise, was just better at pretty much every instrument. The had moved beyond the 80s. I think it's another reason why Wendy and Lisa basically fell off after 1990. The were still able to do some musical scores for TV, but nothing really relevant that was album worthy. They're sound was made for the 80s era. He knew that and he also knew that Dr. Fink was good enough to play in pretty much any era, which is why he still kept Fink around for a few years. Prince made a smart choice. Whether other fans appreciated it or not, he never had so much nostalgia for the 80s or a band of players that he wanted to improve, that he took his eye off the big picture. He knew what he had to do as an artist. He gets my respect for being aware enough to realize this. Jazz composers are known to do this all the time. Miles Davis would constantly change his band to create different sounds. Prince was no different, and it's the reason why we have such a wide variety of amazing music today.
Underrated comment
Prince peak was until 30 year old. Not later.
@@davidamigos.davidamigosnwa4522 Then you're still stuck on 80s era Prince and some glorified version of the Revolution, which to be honest, was still basically all-Prince. Luckily for the rest of us, he wasn't. His career ran 30+ years, and anyone that attended a Prince live performance in the 2000 era, will tell you that, musically, he got much better as he got older. I can't imagine the Revolution doing Musicology, or anything off The Rainbow Children. They just weren't as talented as the NPG and later bands. They served the 80s well as a band that was needed for crossover appeal; But later?...Absolutely not.
@@AlexanderNevermind888 well maybe playing live he was more mature or virtuoso later. But I think overall his best piece of work is begining until batman. Personally for me his best tour was lovesexy88. I have seen Prince live 15 times including small venues and after shows. Probably for me his best band was when he was touring with mace Parker and Larry graham. But each person has its own taste of music/eras. Sorry for my English.
@davidamigos.davidamigosnwa4522 We definitely have different tastes, and luckily for those of us who love his music, there's a niche for almost anyone. Every one of his live shows was a treat for me. But I specifically have fond memories of the 1999 tour, where he toured with The Time and Vanity 6. Unless I missed something, it was probably the first time one single man had a hand in creating every piece of music that was played during that tour. The Welcome 2 America tour was one of my all-time favorites, as I got to see John Blackwell on drums in the NPG for the last time, and the Jam of the Year tour, which I basically travelled the country for because he would do these afterparties and would put on a whole separate concert. He's still the best live artist I've ever seen.
Fink was probably the only other musician in the Revolution who matched Prince. Prince evolved but I agree that his early stuff has the most longevity for me.
And you stepped on the whole interview with the modern "see yourself" bit. The band was amazing because of who THEY were. Period.
Exactly, stupid identity politics nonsense Prince would have despised.
I've always liked Prince. The only thing i didnt like from the 80's/Purple Rain era was his body guard Big Chick carrying him around. Chick followed him EVERYWHERE!
The doctor is in the house
If I had the chance of interviewing Matt I’d ask him about how hard was doing the WDC choreography 😂
That was the easiest choreography ever it wasn't like Michael Jackson stuff.
@@avrilharris9216you obviously aren’t a fan or even watched it 😂
I’m talking about Fink dancing
…and if you refer to Prince I tell you MJ couldn’t do it himself and let’s not talk about doing it on those high heels
@@Cormac-jd2kx Hell I can do it in 4" heels so what's your point?
@@avrilharris9216upload a video and we all can see it 😂
Until then you will be considered a clown
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The Revolution was a great era
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I never really liked prince until i heard purple rain, but i never give him credit for it, The sound behind Purple Rain is "The Revolution"
I understand why Dr Fink didnt want to give details, but now I am curious. I thought Prince was only tired and wanted to move on with Sheila E and Eric Leeds
Drama. Drama between Wendy & her twin sister Susannah. Prince added her & some members of The Time when they broke up. Wendy was like I SHARED A WOMB WITH HER I DON'T WANNA SHARE THE STAGE WITH HER TOO. That was the start of the end
@@mongoslade277 wow, I never thought it would be something like that. I thought it was more related to the music (songwriting, credits, etc). But it makes sense. Susannah started collaborating more around that era.
@@darkbluebossa Yeah. Then Prince wanted Sheila E to join him which meant Bobby Z was gone. Then Sheila E wanted her band to join them also. Lisa & Wendy really acted a fool then. It was a mess
Prince started feeling like W&L along with Susannah were trying to control him, also trying to make themselves seem like they taught him everything. Read their interviews before and after the firings. They were like " we added this, wrote this, brought in this music, etc". I think once they started bringing in their brothers to do music Prince started feeling manipulation. 1st he hired Lisa then Wendy shows up mysteriously playing guitar in Lisa's room after Dez announced his leaving, then here comes Susannah to $ the boss, then the brothers work on around the world in a day. SMH besides he started losing his black audiences. We noticed that he had lost his funk and was trying to be a Pop star. Especially after the We are the world fiasco.
I'm glad he put the NPG together. Better band better music.
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The Revolution
When he said it felt like "boss/employee" at times. That's because for Prince it 100% was. It wasn't personal but this is the same person who at 16 wouldn't let labels give him producers. He did everything himself and he was dang good at it too
Prince was absolutely in control. Nothing wrong with that. The Revolution...and others...were part of his world. It was not the other way around. Public image, perception, promotion aside. Internal relationships and friendships aside as well. Prince was the boss, focal point, and the reason his band(s) existed.
Prince played various instruments on his earlier albums. Did he really need a band outside of touring?
I can't call any album bad, but I was crushed when this happened and I never *really* got into the NPG. I still listen to D&P once in a while.
Also, thanks for not carving Prince up on camera. I know that's what the media machine demands but nothing's sacred unless we treat it that way.
What’s the story with mark brown and kiss???