AC/DC's Best Rhythm Parts

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  • @MusoraMedia
    @MusoraMedia  Před rokem +2

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  • @stringslinger6
    @stringslinger6 Před 2 lety +126

    Angus said "Malcolm could do everything I can do. But I can't do everything he can do." RIP Malcolm. 🎸

    • @2014cwajts71
      @2014cwajts71 Před měsícem

      I liked when an interviewer asked Angus "What's it like to be one of the best rock guitarists in the world? He replied "I'm not even the best guitarists in the band".

  • @traviszboril6638
    @traviszboril6638 Před 2 lety +74

    I agree Malcolm is the best rhythm guitar player. AC/DC's rhythm section of Malcolm, Cliff, and Phil is the greatest in hard rock music. From everything I have read and learned over the years Malcolm preferred to be in the background and let Angus, Bon, and Brian have the spotlight. AC/DC have aways and will aways be my favorite band of all time.

    • @milw8565
      @milw8565 Před 2 lety +1

      💯!!!

    • @drachireidnoc6659
      @drachireidnoc6659 Před 2 lety +1

      @@milw8565 Geezer Butler-Bill Ward, and John Bonham-John Paul Jones come to mind too

    • @PapaShongo25
      @PapaShongo25 Před 2 lety +4

      I think Angus admitted that Malcolm could play all of Angus’s parts but Angus couldn’t play all of Malcolm’s. Granted, Angus was playing his parts while sprinting and spinning on his back. Long story short, they complemented each other as perfect as it could be.

  • @bigbluegpr
    @bigbluegpr Před 2 lety +21

    Angus was famously once asked what it felt like to be one of the best guitarists in the world, and he replied "I'm not even the best guitarist in the band". Mal was the MAN!!

  • @david10006
    @david10006 Před 2 lety +35

    A few things to consider, he was a small dude with huge picking strength using heavy gauge strings and extra thick picks and often wearing them down to stubs, just a beast.

    • @chrispys696
      @chrispys696 Před 2 lety

      yep sure did. His Nephew Steve Young does the same as malcolm aswell. Fun fact, Malcolm played lead on a classic song called Evie.

  • @stratotele12
    @stratotele12 Před 2 lety +25

    I think Malcolm's rhythm work is fantastic, but sometimes I feel like the comments act like Angus never played rhythm! Sure he plays the leads, but in most of the songs, Angus plays a complimentary rhythm part with Malcolm. Let's stop trying to figure out who the best guitar player in the band is and realize AC/DC is great because of the way they played together.

  • @deanrussell6658
    @deanrussell6658 Před 2 lety +18

    If you want blood you got it is the ultimate rhythm the way he plays it. Drives it straight through the whole song

    • @dasmuss6174
      @dasmuss6174 Před 2 lety

      100%, and surprisingly difficult to fully nail properly like Mal

    • @KyleSG88
      @KyleSG88 Před rokem +1

      Actually the Mal rhythm in if you want blood changes for the outro of the song but don't ever see anyone play it that way.

    • @Isxxc.
      @Isxxc. Před měsícem

      absolutely, there's a reason I'm drawn to that song, so cool to practise

  • @ronaldshipman3026
    @ronaldshipman3026 Před 2 lety +29

    Yep. Malcolm was the John bonam of AC/DC he led the band sometimes switching to lead. He was the driving force

  • @CloydRoyal
    @CloydRoyal Před 2 lety +4

    Always enjoy when Malcolm gets some love. Nicely done.

  • @MikeG691
    @MikeG691 Před 2 lety +26

    They played together their whole lives. Literally.

    • @daveg5857
      @daveg5857 Před 2 lety

      That delivery room was rocking!

  • @matthaddox6769
    @matthaddox6769 Před 2 lety +19

    Definitely Angus has said multiple times, Malcom was a much better guitar player than he was.

    • @joni9457
      @joni9457 Před 2 lety +1

      yes becouse malcom was the guy where angus learned all guitar things but angus wanted to be solo guitarist so malcom was rythm

    • @milw8565
      @milw8565 Před 2 lety +4

      Malcolm was a living metronome, one of the best rythm guitar ever, however I think he's a little bit underrated by people who don't like Ac/Dc 😵

  • @Dave-sg6om
    @Dave-sg6om Před 2 lety +8

    Anyone that knows anything about AC/DC knows that even Angus will admit that Malcolm was the better player. From the earliest days, it was Malcolm that pushed and aided Angus into becoming the guitar player he is today. Malcolm was an understated genius and an influence to millions, including Angus. R.I.P.

  • @ryanc7160
    @ryanc7160 Před 2 lety +2

    I love how both brothers have been asked basically the same question, and both answered that the other one was the greatest. There was an interview clip i saw where Malcolm, in all humbleness as ususal, was explaining how the world will come to see the master that is his little brother.. Cant remember which interview it was, but he was giving it all to his bro. And Angus, how he shrugs off statements toward him as being best, and gives it up to Malcolm. That in itself says so much.. They had to have to known what level they were really at, remained ever humble, spoke of each other as how true greats ought to speak.. So special to have 2 of them in the same band. "Real recognize real", they knew they were good at what they did

  • @izzy574
    @izzy574 Před 2 lety +7

    Great video. Looking forward to trying these out! Malcolm was a beast. As someone who's own mother has been diagnosed with dementia, I can definitely feel for Angus and his loss.

  • @donarmstrong6202
    @donarmstrong6202 Před 2 lety +7

    Gone Shootin’. favourite tune by both Angus and Mal the whole track is a great groove track

    • @ericpigg2689
      @ericpigg2689 Před 2 lety +2

      Absolutely. Glad someone said it, it's an overlooked gem.

    • @maxscardanelli6185
      @maxscardanelli6185 Před 2 lety +2

      That's my favourite AC/DC song of all time! I'm glad someone else mentioned it as I was about to.

    • @donarmstrong6202
      @donarmstrong6202 Před 2 lety

      Great album powerage is from start to finish

    • @highvolts6620
      @highvolts6620 Před 2 lety +3

      Gone Shootin is probably the most fun to play by Malcolm. I could play Mals rhythm part all day and not get tired of it.

  • @joachimgail8018
    @joachimgail8018 Před 2 lety +11

    I definitely agree with that. Malcolm was the greates Rhythm Gitarist of all time.
    One of my favourite Riffs of Malcolm Young is definitely the Rhythm Part of the Song "Rocker" from Dirty Deeds done dirt Cheap 1976 ;)

    • @tots8982
      @tots8982 Před 2 lety

      hell no he is not, there are war more better rhythm gutítarist.

    • @tots8982
      @tots8982 Před 2 lety

      @Bad Boys Boogie i dont care what my favourite guitarist say, and im pretty sure they would not pick him as greatest rhythm guitarist of all time. there are many that are far more better, like James Hetfield and Jimmy Hendrix. Malcom is one of the best, but not even close being best one of so many great Rhythm guitarists.

  • @damien6997
    @damien6997 Před 2 lety +5

    I totally agree. Angus is always my guitar hero. Malcolm was the balls behind the sound. Great rythym guitarist and the best in my view. He dug in to those chords.

  • @crh4878
    @crh4878 Před 2 lety +5

    Meanstreak as well as the Blow Up Your Video album are terribly underrated

  • @Sherman1862
    @Sherman1862 Před 2 lety +8

    Malcom Rocked! Bon Scott too!

  • @nicksimkiss7620
    @nicksimkiss7620 Před 2 lety +5

    Malcoms tone timing and rythym ...drive that band, and keep it stuck together like glue

  • @swamppifi6186
    @swamppifi6186 Před 2 lety +4

    ACDC's badland is so underated, Malcoms rhythm is driving in this song,.

    • @maxscardanelli6185
      @maxscardanelli6185 Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah it is man! Flick Of The Switch is in my top 3 Brian Johnson era AC/DC albums.

  • @thor6580
    @thor6580 Před 2 lety +4

    Once in an interview Angus Young was asked "What's it like being the best guitar player in the world"? and he responded by saying "I'm not even the best guitar player in AC/DC". So he agrees with you.

  • @JacksonTaylorandTheSinners

    You are 💯 correct. Malcom was indeed the better player. Malcom is why Angus sounded so good.

  • @malyoung4124
    @malyoung4124 Před 2 lety +2

    Malcolm forever!!!!

  • @dirkstaudt4341
    @dirkstaudt4341 Před 2 lety +2

    In my opinion it is important to keep some aspects in mind , if some guitar player wants to come close to ACDC's music and tone.
    1) Never use too much gain. Angus' and Malcolm's secret ingredients are high volume, strong fingers and the perfect match of both guitarist's tonal frequencies.
    2) Malcolm used a setup , which is perfect for rhytm guitar playing. If I know it right, he used a 13's set of strings.
    The string choice gave him the right resistence for his physical right hand playing , and gave his guitar tone the deep growl we all loved to hear from him.
    He didn't need string bending -- never -- . So he could use low fretwire, which makes rhythm playing easier to keep chords in tune.
    3) Angus' and Malcolm's Schaffer Vega unit's are important too. They give a boosted tone, but no high gain sound.
    I enjoyed your video 🙂

    • @paulaeden5934
      @paulaeden5934 Před 2 lety +2

      Malcolm always played 12 gauge..and only Angus used the shaffa..

    • @paulaeden5934
      @paulaeden5934 Před 2 lety

      and no gain..none at all..they play through the clean channel..with tubes overriding naturely

    • @dirkstaudt4341
      @dirkstaudt4341 Před 2 lety

      @@paulaeden5934 3 or 4 years ago I read in the german guitar magazine "Grand Guitars" a review about the Gretsch Masterbuilt Malcolm- Young- Tribute guitar. The author wrote something about a 13's set.
      A 12' gauge is my choice on my personal Strat ;-)
      I never had the chance to enter the stage before or after an ACDC concert.
      I think the both guitarists discovered some day in the past that their wireless units work great as tone shaping tools too.
      A little bit of boost , and a little bit of compression. ( Personally I'm a big fan of Fil , especially with his Schaffer Replica towers.)

    • @highvolts6620
      @highvolts6620 Před 2 lety

      @@paulaeden5934 Your correct. No Schaffer system for Mal, set of 12’s with a wound G. Heavy Fender pick.

  • @dibbo9264
    @dibbo9264 Před rokem +1

    Malcolm Was A Musical Genius One Of The Greatest Rhythm Guitarist’s Ever

  • @paulaeden5934
    @paulaeden5934 Před 2 lety +6

    Mal's e chord was always 4 strings..it's a massive part of his sound...yet...no mention of that here lol!

    • @bclmax
      @bclmax Před 2 lety +2

      4 strings..too many thats jazz chord

    • @hansvandermeulen5515
      @hansvandermeulen5515 Před 3 měsíci

      Mal's first position E has a third in it, as dlearly audible in songs like Jailbreak.

  • @scottnigh5056
    @scottnigh5056 Před 2 lety

    My favorite song for both Angus and Malcolm is D.T. They work so well together and the song gets in your head forever.

  • @brownsfanlarry1340
    @brownsfanlarry1340 Před 2 lety

    I agree totally! I have a Gretsch & a Les Paul. Sound great together!

  • @alwaysright3718
    @alwaysright3718 Před 11 měsíci +2

    AC/DC played at my high school in 1974, beat that...

  • @michaelburkley1225
    @michaelburkley1225 Před 2 lety +1

    AC/DC is an awesome band to pattern after. I think their licks are unique. Thanks.🙂

  • @gioknows
    @gioknows Před 2 lety +3

    Extremely informative and just overall awesome! Cheers from Ottawa, Canada 🍁

    • @rocklandsally
      @rocklandsally Před 2 lety +2

      Ottawa Canada represent !!!

    • @dasmuss6174
      @dasmuss6174 Před 2 lety +1

      You guys ok over there?, greetings from Oz 👍🇦🇺🍻🍻

    • @gioknows
      @gioknows Před 2 lety

      @@dasmuss6174 Yeah, we're good thank you. We still have guns so the government couldn't pull the same horrible stuff they pulled on your country. We are all praying for you. God Bless You.

  • @MyScooter57
    @MyScooter57 Před 2 lety +1

    I agree with you about Malcolm!

  • @ajmpatriot4899
    @ajmpatriot4899 Před 2 lety +1

    Wow, great job! 👍
    For some reason I always hear the rhythm more, probably because I’m a drummer

  • @hansemannluchter643
    @hansemannluchter643 Před 2 lety +1

    You only need to use your index and middle finger for the D-chord in "Shoot to Thrill", not having the ring-finger locked on a string makes it much easier to stretch the pinkie..

  • @steeveaddkins3755
    @steeveaddkins3755 Před rokem

    I TOTALLY AGREE! Mals my favorite guitarist.

  • @bozeeke
    @bozeeke Před 2 lety

    You are correct sir!

  • @user-oe6ol4mf2q
    @user-oe6ol4mf2q Před 10 dny

    Listening to Malcolm taught me how to use volume to create distortion with volume ..

  • @rueda82nd
    @rueda82nd Před 2 lety +2

    True was secret sauce to AC/DC great guitar player

  • @KyleSG88
    @KyleSG88 Před 2 lety +1

    Cool guitar. The thunderstruck riff was pretty rough though and needs another listen :)

  • @seagullpoet
    @seagullpoet Před 2 lety +3

    At first it was easy to play AC/DC in high school. At parties.
    Could sound somewhat like them. Nobody cared.
    But to actually PLAY like them, Malcom in particular, no way.
    He added all these little touches. He had to show Angus how to play the song correctly.

  • @uncle-song8842
    @uncle-song8842 Před 2 lety

    I will follow this video for practicing guitar!!

  • @b4l4a
    @b4l4a Před rokem

    Hello! thanks for all! Could we hope a strumming pattern for the Malcom's part of Thunder? TY so much!

  • @lorelei2002
    @lorelei2002 Před rokem +1

    Malcom actually wrote most of the riffs too from what i hear

  • @Postmortumaz
    @Postmortumaz Před 4 měsíci

    Strike the strings closer to bridge. Right on top of the bridge pickup.

  • @MarkoMarkovina
    @MarkoMarkovina Před 2 lety +1

    True what you say about Mal.... amd the fact that you are playing most 9f his riffs completely wrong proves that fact even more ;) cheers

  • @SebastianIvan
    @SebastianIvan Před 8 měsíci

    super cool lesson. thanks

  • @stevenspikes5474
    @stevenspikes5474 Před 2 lety +3

    Nice guitar! You do it justice.
    I'm guessing you were playing on the bridge pickup to copy the beast.
    Since the beast had no tone control, are you setting yours all the way to the bass end of the tone control?

    • @MusoraMedia
      @MusoraMedia  Před 2 lety +3

      Thanks so much! Yes, bridge pickup and all the knobs at 10! - Kent

  • @frankswildyear
    @frankswildyear Před rokem

    Great lesson, thanks!

  • @bjstein4242
    @bjstein4242 Před 2 lety +1

    Nice vid, however the Gretsch Jet in 1963 was not a "junior" guitar.. a serious well made hollow body guitar given to him by Harry Vanda who with George Young was the driving force of The Easybeats.. if you look back at early vids of the Easybeats, the can watch George playing piano with that same Gretch strapped to his back..

    • @lukecoverdale1
      @lukecoverdale1 Před 2 lety +2

      I think by junior he’s referring to a single bridge pickup guitar like a les Paul junior, versus a student level guitar

  • @Franzen90
    @Franzen90 Před měsícem

    Malcom Young is the best guitarist ever. His groove is beyond comparison and groove is all that matters

  • @incognitoyt7940
    @incognitoyt7940 Před 3 měsíci

    Agree

  • @bigsidable
    @bigsidable Před 2 lety +2

    Malcom was the Beat and Rhythm of the Band.

  • @snapsnappist4529
    @snapsnappist4529 Před 9 měsíci

    Not particularly controversial, to be honest. Malcolm was the beating heart and driving force of AC/DC. The reason they were so successful was that while other bands hammered and thrashed, AC/DC had swing and groove, and Malcolm was largely the reason why.
    This video didn't really give the best examples of Malc's rhythm playing. The main riff from Thunderstruck is good, but the chorus is better. Likewise, Shoot to Thrill. Listen to both of them - Phil Rudd and Cliff Williams play a constant, unchanging pulse while Malc plays single, ringing chords against the beat. So simple, so effective.

  • @toddapplegate3988
    @toddapplegate3988 Před 2 lety

    It's true. And it's also the sweet combination of Angus and Malcolm. The interplay sets a standard.

  • @squidwardshouse5431
    @squidwardshouse5431 Před 2 lety +1

    I think Malcolm only used the Falcon for the Back in Black record. As I heard he didn't like the sound and stuffed the f holes with socks. Don't think he used it after that.

    • @highvolts6620
      @highvolts6620 Před 2 lety

      Story goes he liked the guitar but he played it so hard that he literally killed it. He brought it to a luthier and it never sounded the same. The way he plays….I believe it.

  • @bradybritto
    @bradybritto Před 2 lety +2

    Cool 👍

  • @stevedahl6531
    @stevedahl6531 Před 2 lety +1

    EVH said AC DC was the only band he worried about going on after

  • @chrishunter9472
    @chrishunter9472 Před 2 lety +7

    I actually agree with this....Malcome was the second best rythm guitarist in history, Keith Richards being the first...Malcome's work on Thunderstruck is just incredible

    • @paulaeden5934
      @paulaeden5934 Před 2 lety

      Dude you really need to learn to spell lol

    • @jeflord43
      @jeflord43 Před 2 lety

      I agree. Your comment made me think of this - can you imagine how awesome this show would be? czcams.com/video/AlyqLut0XKQ/video.html

    • @dasmuss6174
      @dasmuss6174 Před 2 lety +1

      paula eden Fuk of, he kan spel phine ya prik

    • @comraderomania7988
      @comraderomania7988 Před 2 lety +2

      keith has nothing on Mal

    • @cristianconnolly2709
      @cristianconnolly2709 Před 2 lety

      Malcom and Keith are definetely 2 of the best rhythm guitarists ever, idk if top 2 but definetely top 10. Theres also page, van halen, hendrix, iommi, hetfield, blackmore, dimebag etc

  • @edwardcoit9748
    @edwardcoit9748 Před 2 lety

    Thank you.

  • @dougmcmillan2483
    @dougmcmillan2483 Před 2 lety +1

    Angus said, Malcolm can do everything I can do, I can't do what he can

  • @charleybarley914
    @charleybarley914 Před 2 lety +1

    Angus brings the lightning but Malcolm brought the thunder

  • @tonyhiggins5745
    @tonyhiggins5745 Před 2 lety

    Great video

  • @MS-Patriot2
    @MS-Patriot2 Před 3 měsíci

    Excellent slug balancing act for the Black Adder fans.

  • @if6turnedouttobe9
    @if6turnedouttobe9 Před 2 lety

    Very good...

  • @fifthof1795
    @fifthof1795 Před 2 lety +1

    Angus is on record as saying Mal was the best player in the band.

  • @onenotesolo256
    @onenotesolo256 Před 2 lety

    I like that your low E wobbles out of tune a bit when you hit it hard - just like Dirty Deeds and Let There Be Rock era on the records. Good lesson, sir.

  • @charlescockley7610
    @charlescockley7610 Před 2 lety

    Love Malcom and couldn’t agree more!!! My favorite song by AC/DC to play along to us “Touch to much”

  • @wendyhetherington7402
    @wendyhetherington7402 Před 2 lety +1

    Rythmn to thunderstruck is totally different to what you’re playing.......good pointers tho

  • @paulchoate1
    @paulchoate1 Před 2 lety

    Did you restring that Gretsch you are playing with 12’s?

  • @Chevrolicious.
    @Chevrolicious. Před 2 lety

    Jailbreak is one that just would not be the same without Malcolm. That song is all about the rhythm. I also like Riff Raff a lot.

  • @schmoosmith
    @schmoosmith Před 2 lety

    Definitely did not need to sit down for that statement, he really was the best guitarist in AC/DC. He is probably the best rhythm guitarist of all time too.

  • @moskii-kb8un
    @moskii-kb8un Před 2 lety

    Good job

  • @bigsidable
    @bigsidable Před 2 lety

    Yeah I do. It’s the Attack. And the Bends.

  • @deadheadcentral2514
    @deadheadcentral2514 Před 2 lety

    Bob weir has Malcom beat for best rhythm guitar player. Take a listen to his isolated live tracks he plays exactly what is needed

  • @Notthepickles
    @Notthepickles Před 2 lety +1

    Yeah Angus is amazing but, just look at MoneyTalks…Malcom has the way harder part in the song, and just many more, Malcom was the key to acdc amazing Rhythm guitarist sounds!

  • @alpieatabay6363
    @alpieatabay6363 Před 2 lety

    🎶 “Noo!… Nonsense!… Rock’n’roll !….

  • @kennethmeeker6369
    @kennethmeeker6369 Před 2 lety

    A lot of hybrid picking on the rhythm parts pick and fingers like thunderstruck

  • @shaikfayaz07951
    @shaikfayaz07951 Před 2 lety

    Hey i am beginner in playing guitar can u make a video of fast fingers for beginners

  • @F3RWE
    @F3RWE Před 2 lety

    For me personally I think that it it’s a close call between Paul Stanley and Malcolm

  • @patrickfroehlich7348
    @patrickfroehlich7348 Před 2 lety

    Definetly right.....Malcolm rules

  • @HiHello-ku1fl
    @HiHello-ku1fl Před 2 lety

    No Malcolm most certainly did not add an extra tube to his amp. Not sure where you got that?? Stock Marshall Superbass head. He also didn't use that much gain. Just a slight crunch and a lot of volume.

    • @lauriecarter8931
      @lauriecarter8931 Před 2 lety

      Yeah ya don't need much gain when playin at high volume especially through their rigs!!!

  • @edwardcowardin4014
    @edwardcowardin4014 Před 2 lety

    I remember Rolling Stone magazine asking Angus who his favorite guitar is and Angus said Malcolm.

  • @graeme941
    @graeme941 Před rokem

    Hi what amp settings was u using for this

    • @MS-Patriot2
      @MS-Patriot2 Před 3 měsíci

      The wrong ones. Way too much gain and treble. If he backed off the volume on the guitar it would help too. Much less reverb too. This sounds like Duane Eddy with a tube out.

  • @goomanus
    @goomanus Před 2 lety

    Wound 3rd string also.

  • @toonarmy8524
    @toonarmy8524 Před 2 lety

    Malcolm young was the best rythm guitar player ever period.

  • @tractorass
    @tractorass Před 2 lety +2

    These really are dark times. It's not the pandemic, it's not WW3... It's the return of the fucking moustache.

  • @matlindell5022
    @matlindell5022 Před 2 lety +2

    You should tune the guitar!😉

  • @jiml9856
    @jiml9856 Před 2 lety

    Even Angus has said that

  • @paulaeden5934
    @paulaeden5934 Před 2 lety

    There's only two tips for playing acdc.. 1st..control your picking hand..2nd..they play through the clean channel!

  • @robertturner6567
    @robertturner6567 Před 3 měsíci

    Malcolm is/was certainly one of the Greatest Rhythm Guitarists of all time but I believe that Rudolf Schenker is better. RIP Malcolm.

  • @adamcwalina1470
    @adamcwalina1470 Před 2 lety

    I agree.When i was a teenager i pretend play guitar on tennis rakiet in front of mirror as Malcolm Young.

  • @arlovitnell8627
    @arlovitnell8627 Před 2 lety

    Even Angus says Malcolm was a better guitar player than him and the only reason he didn't want to play lead is because it would take up too much of his drinking time 🍻💪🏼
    I'd say that's a pretty damn Aussie attitude if ya ask me 👌🇦🇺🔥🔥🔥

  • @waynesmith2287
    @waynesmith2287 Před 2 lety

    Angus was asked what it was like to be the best guitarist in the world. Angus laughed and said he wasn't even the best guitarist in AC/DC.

  • @boydross
    @boydross Před 2 lety

    One note is one note to many

  • @paulaeden5934
    @paulaeden5934 Před 2 lety

    Malcolm only ever played lead guitar on three acdc songs..
    Soul stripper / baby pls don't go / you ain't got a hold on me

  • @zeke7142003
    @zeke7142003 Před 2 lety

    Angus said Malcolm was a better player. I saw it in an interview.

  • @darylp37
    @darylp37 Před 2 lety

    Anyone who is a big fan of AC/DC , I believe, would agree with your first statement. He may have been in the shadows but Mal WAS AC/DC.

  • @bigsidable
    @bigsidable Před 2 lety +1

    I use 12s myself. I break anything else.

  • @Antoni2u
    @Antoni2u Před 2 lety

    Trust me I am NOT a fan of the band...at all. However, you're tutorial and the simplicity of it all was spot-on! Great job.

    • @highvolts6620
      @highvolts6620 Před 2 lety

      If your not a fan, how do you know he was spot on? Cause as an avid Malcolm player, he really wasn’t.