We Just Found Out He’s a Creeper!
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A dangerous situation if the creeper gets so upset he harms someone including the ladies who reported him.
1) offer him & his family a weeks pay
Plus Bus Tickets for the family to go back to Belize.
2) Company will drive them to the bus station to make sure they get on.
3) Tell him this is the only option so you don’t have to get the police involved.
4) If any of the ladies live near him in Employee housing, they must be put up into a hotel till he is gone.
He's a nice boss to consider the ramifications to the employee's family.
Before any doofus comes on here and replies, yes, he is.
No, he's a wimp. He needs to get rid of the creeper or risk lawsuits from the ladies.
You can fire him and prepay a hotel for 30 days. This way, they have some time to decide their future plans...
That's a good idea as well. Gets them out of their comfort zone of their current residence but gives them a cushion. I like that.
100 percent agree. Get them off your premises.
That's a good idea offer them 30 days in a hotel or tickets back to Belize.
Really good idea from so many angles.
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The bar is set that low now huh?
Too many partisan rants and he would be for the rich.
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I think step one is talking to this guy and at least let him address the allegations.
They don’t need to someone made a complaint and he said they confirmed his behaviour.
A terminated employee who harasses others will likely trash your housing. Best to give him and the family a bus ticket to Belize.
I remember when I reported SA at my job during the pandemic, it was literally right when it was announced a pandemic. I had been shoved up against a wall & kissed, a superior said he wished I’d touch his **** next time I bump into him, & another superior constantly said almost anytime I dressed more dressy “woooo you going for a job interview? Hired but unbutton that top a little”. I was laid off & their excuse was Covid eliminated my position. Myself & the 3 other women who reported a hostile work place, 3 of the 4 are gone & were gone shortly after me.
SA can be such a gray area. The business owners on here saying it isn’t are the good ones. There should be NO gray area, but some businesses will find one & live on it. I hope these women feel validated & heard & that this guy learns his lesson.
Women want to work too, but every single place I have ever worked I’ve been hit on. Every single place. It started at 15 when my boss grabbed my butt & said he was just getting the chapstick from my pocket. It’s so uncomfortable.
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Thanks Dave, you answered so many questions.
Way to go, Dave! This is a very fair resolution.
No, it isn't fair. Send the guy back to Belize.
Pay to send them home...done.
The ladies in the business also live in the employee housing, and shouldn’t have to worry about encountering the harasser there.
Dave's advice on this is ridiculous..
In a few minutes Dave didn't have time to answer it perfectly but obviously the employer would put a caviot that says any problems and you are out that day in this scenario.
@@jesselarson2570 The problem exists. The woman he harassed should not be further traumatized by his presence at home. Home is a place of safety and respite. She should not have to worry about leaving her apartment, getting the mail, going to and from her car, or timing activities to try to avoid him. She has the right to be safe and relaxed outside, freely go to and from her friends’ apartments, and fully enjoy the facilities. Plus, with no job he’ll have no schedule. That makes it impossible to avoid running into him. He needs to be gone. He did it to himself.
@GenX X I get that and maybe dude needs to be gone right away. There's a lot of unknown details like are the housing units all next to each other or spread out. I bet if we knew all the details we would agree on a solution but unfortunately we only have a few details. Obviously the guy needs to grand yes if it's all in one apartment building he needs to go today so the others are safe. If he's at a unit that's far away there's a little more Grey area to work with.
@@jesselarson2570 If the employer want to be nice, he can pay for a modest extended stay motel suite with kitchen for a month or two, and pay for storage for the same period of time.
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The employee is sexually harassing women at work and he’s not even a citizen of Mexico? Pretty darn bold. Sounds like he’s on a work visa to begin with.
Did the company initially mandate training that established a zero tolerance policy for sexual harassment? All employees should be required to complete policy training. Companies I have worked at require policy training to be repeated annually that ensured all updates were current and understood. Employees from other countries may have different understanding of what is/isn't appropriate in the organization workplace setting.
Especially in Mexico, machismo culture is still prevalent.
Dont throw the Baby out with the Bad Father.
30 days in another hotel away from other employees, 2 weeks pay and consider yourself lucky
He could be fired now and given a generous severance, enough for a hotel and expenses for a month. It's on him to figure it out from there
how does he get a new job with a sexual harassment on his reference?
It’s Mexico…
Dude works at a gas station can't be that hard to find new employment
I commend this employer for calling because the creeper has little children.
Are the women he is harassing or abusing living in the same employee housing? If so, he and his family should be extricated and sent to Belize offer him a one-way ticket for his family and pay through the end of the month, that should be your obligation, and only obligation. I had to fire a scumbag, and even though he was a scumbag, it sucks to think you’re sending him home to tell his wife why he was fired.
Maybe he is harassing men.
OMG!! He's bent on being so critical about this call and questioning everything he is saying!!
I think the boss should find out specifics on the situation. The man may need to be fired but he may need guidance on the culture of the company. I would let the man explain himself.
The business owner could call all the employees together, and explain sexual harassment very very clearly. Say in so many words that sexual harassment is a fire-on-the-spot offense.
Then privately call in the creeper and tell him that behavior has repeatedly crossed the line, and terminate his employment with whatever softeners the employer wants to give.
There's a very sticky point: if this man stays in the area and asks for a reference for a job application, isn't it your duty to warn a prospective employer that the man has no boundaries? If you tell the truth and the prospective employer cares about the safety of his female employees, this would torpedo his chances of getting hired. If you don't tell, then any women in the prospective employer's business are at risk.
Don't get too close, lest he explodes, and be aware of lightning. You don't need a charged Creeper.
Chihauhau, Mexico? I thought it was Chihuahua, Mexico. Lol!
The man may trash the apartment, to take revenge.
Bottom line you can't have sexual harrasment at your business. Let him figure out his housing. You can be sued for admitting this is going on and you knew about it and did nothing.
The wife married stupidly and now faces a terrible nightmare; happens all the time. She has a much bigger life long problem than a serious hopefully short term money problem, and there is no reasonable solution from the employer. Some of Dave's ideas are awesome, and it is worthwhile to pass the "look at self in the mirror" test by helping some without breaking the bank.
Lavishly funding their return to Belize ($5K sounds high) sounds like an A play; perhaps the wife has some family back there.
Many harrassers are good in hiding it. And they do not hit on every woman (and certainly not in front of her or his family).
Dave, I want to go work for you.
If he is a creeper you need to fire him or you are going to get LAW SUITS more than ONE which will effect your business and it's reputation. HE IS GONE GONE GONE loses housing take no obligation because any body he harassed can say you backed him and not them.
That month or two the property is probably destroyed. Bad idea. Kick them out and let them be responsible because his actions made all this happen.
Hes creeping on other empolyees, who the hell cares what happens if hes fired? Even if his family suffers, Reap what you sow.
It’s not his family’s fault he’s a creeper, I’m heartbroken for them.
It's not the employer's fault he's a creeper either. In my company, the guy would be gone overnight. He should have thought of the consequences before being a creeper.
I think Dave missed the bus on this one. Creeper's family and kids can stay in company housing for a couple more months, creeper himself is gone immediately, because the ladies he was a creeper to on the job live in company housing too. Part of Dave's responsibility he feels to take care of the creeper's family and not put them on the street, should also extend to protecting the people the creeper preyed upon.
@DJ That's fine, she can go too, if she finds it unacceptable. Either way, creeper needs to leave immediately.
He just gave an example. He left it up to the guy to work out the details.
My question is, as he was harassing the women, did he consider what would happen to his family if he was caught? I'm pretty sure he didn't. Should everyone wait until he actually physically force himself onto a woman before he is released?
The employees must come first. He has to go. He’s facing the consequences of his behavior.
He needs to be fired and face the harsh reality.
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It was a small mistake like the dog
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There may be women's shelter, and the caller could give some money to an org of the Catholic Church, to house the wife and the children (NOT the husband). He can set up something for the family and then they can go live there.
Give him enough money to move back to Belize. He’s out tomorrow. What he does with the money and his family is on him.
Notice Ramsey never inquired about the SPECIFICS of thr situation. The harassment could have been beneign is a sexual joke or complimenting good looks. Good on Ramsey being a humanitarian, shame on Ramsey for jumping to conclusions.
It was not one case and it cannot have been harmless (inappropriate joke told in front of others. Or asked out for a date was rejected and would not take no for an answer - that could be settled with a talking to). The caller does not like at all having to fire him - but he must. It was serious.
Chihauhau 😭😭😭
Finds out employees are being sexually harrassed two weeks ago. Too busy to deal with it. Now wants to do right by the guy who is sexually harassing his employees. Sounds like a great boss.
Not right by the guy. Right by the woman & I think 4 kids (the youngest a newborn).
So, how does Ramsey help all of the homeless with 0 money??
Buy him and his family bus tickets back to Belize
Hope Dave "took care of" that pregnant single mother he fired because she wasn't married...
I don't know the details of the case you are referring to, and it is my guess you don't either. In this era, it is very common for a "news story" to happen where those reporting have no interest in weakening the narrative.
@@petepeterson5337 She filed a lawsuit ;)
Uh...He's talking about Mexico. This man may have had no Idea he was harrassing women.
Nah, Catholic Mexico resp. Belize. These men KNOW what proper behavior is (and they tend to be rather possessive when it comes to their wives, daughters). But he had no intention to keep those standards. And even if he is too stupid to know - NOW he knows. The poor woman that is married to this creep, she may not be able to afford to divorce him.
First, did the company offer sexual harassment training and did he take it and sign off on it? If not, then he might not be aware that it is sexual harassment. Maybe the guy is just overly friendly and it crosses the definition. Throwing a guy out on the street because you can't be clear in your expectation seems unfair, but then we don't get the whole story. In addition, you just found out and gave him zero chance to change his behavior.
Yeah, if they just found out and didn't even talk to him yet seems strange UNLESS he is doing something way over the top, etc. they should have a talk with no exceptions. Would include his wife because of the housing situation.
@@zacharyfair6738 Yeah, we have no context. The employee who filed harassment, might think it is harassment, but it is not.
I'm sure it wasn't the first instance, he was probably on their radar from the girl complaining and seen it for themselves. Know business wants to hire a new employee and train them without some sort of proof. It expensive!
@@KennTollens the serveral complaintS - and the caller does not like at all having to fire him (I commend him for thinking of the family) - but he must. So this was certainly not harmless.
So now hes staying at the employer provided house without working at the job for at the bare minimum 2mos.. thats ridiculous. The employer did nothing wrong and owes it to the other employees to make them feel safe. HE made a decision that put his wife and baby on the street.
Not saying that the employee is a good guy, but when we look at it from a Christian standpoint (this IS a Christian business channel), we have to keep in mind the Grace that God has given US. Not saying what this guy is doing is right, but we needed Jesus to die on the cross for us for a reason. Jesus gave us two commandments: To love him with everything, and to love others as ourselves. Dave has the right idea. The guy NEEDS to go because he's making work unsafe, but there can be grace as well. Like he said, it's not the baby's fault the dad's a creeper.
There is a middle ground solution where the employees can be safe while also taking care of the creeper's kids. We call that GRACE for those of us who follow Jesus Christ.
The employee should be terminated immediately to protect the business and the other employees ....but the gracious, wealthy employer can provide a hotel stay for 1-2 months for the employee and his family while the fired employee figures out his life for himself and his family. Or something to that effect.
There are certainly Catholic charities that would take in the wife and children in for a while. Employer could give them some money (and some directly to the wife, but not too much so she cannot give him money). Or they have women's shelters. If the family comes with a generous donation (not more than he would invest anyway) they will find the space. The creep cannot tell his wife that nothing had happened. He can set up arrangements for his family or the return to Belize.
The creep is not in the apartment (which he might trash in frustration and revenge). He is not near the employees that he harrassed - so he is less likely to take revenge.
He does not deserve help, his family does. And they cannot give money to his wife, it is possible he would bully her to give it to him.
He can sleep under the bridge or behind the counter of his next gas station job. Will teach him a lesson.
Amen sister u got the smartest comment on this subject. The employer owes him nothing after he fucked up that way. Dave acting like he was late to work or something 😂
Don't pass go. Don't collect $200. He's gone yesterday.
Kick him out and put him in a hotel for two months with half pay and give him food packages for the baby and wife.
Dave: we don't tolerate sexual harassment and neither should you.
Also Dave: Was this just a one-off where he can be reprimanded and keep his job?
So much hemming and hawing by Dave on this call. The obvious answer is fire the guy, and if the business owner has empathy for his living situation, then give him a severance payment so that the guy can figure out his housing for at least the short-term.
except he's in Mexico 😂
Fire him. He has a wife and four children and a young baby . This man should not be going to work to sexually harass people. A bad father a bad husband. Very ungrateful employee. Your employer is providing free housing for you. Brought you from a different country? The reward of hiring you is going to work and sexually harassing women in the work place. The man is not worrying thinking about the consequences, why should you? Fire him. Let him go back to his country. I feel bad for his wife and kids.
Apparently Belize isn't sending their finest either. Let me guess where this creeper is going to end up...
Be specific on sexual harassment. I've heard cases of woman going into men's bathrooms or sleeping areas and when asked to leave claim sexual harassment. When the woman pressed the allegations as soon as it came time to make statements they ghosted.
Be precise and specific. The is vague and kinda sounds like a manager trying to act smitten over an attractive employee. Yeah the guy gets fired and you look like a hero but trust me that attractive employee is now your slaver.
When you’re an employer there is no room for grey area with sexual harassment. Too much liability. Obviously you don’t own a business and have that pressure on your back
The caller talked about complaintS - and the caller does not like at all having to fire him (I commend him for thinking of the family) - but he must. So this was certainly not harmless. Or one case.
How about he thinks about the well-being of the ones being harassed, instead of what happens to the creep's family.
Dave Ramsey is a Creeper
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Gawd, Dave is sounding like a bleeding-heart liberal! What about maximizing stockholder's equity? I thought for a moment I was listening to a Bernie Sander's rant! 😆
On the caption during the call showing where the caller was from you misspelled the location. It's spelled: CHIHUAHUA
C'mon! In this day and age there is no excuse for misspelling. By the way why didn't you specify where in Chihuahua the caller was calling from? You do realize Mexico like the U.S. is divided into states. Chihuahua is a state in Mexico. There are many cities in Chihuahua. So what CITY in Chihuahua is the caller calling from? God I thought your staff was suppose to be smart Dave. Why don't you just hire me? Why do people who can't even spell correctly get to work?
I agree with everything except specifying the city. And my grandpa was from Chihuahua.
Talking shit about the current employees is not the way to get a job. Theres a certain level of respect that you don't have for your possible future colleagues and that's immediately a red flag.
@@John-du2mq There is no excuse for misspelling that word. It's easy and very commonplace: CHIHUAHUA. Just like the damn dog!!! Too many incompetent people have jobs while intelligent prospects are passed over for sloppy employees who MAY BE NICE but don't pay attention to details.
Wow, someone has a massive chip on their shoulder.
If I were them, I wouldn’t hire you! You were way to cynical and rude on this post.