The Weirdly Big Problem of Being Declared Dead Accidentally

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  • @jbird4478
    @jbird4478 Před 2 lety +3250

    I can only imagine the phone calls.
    "I'm not dead."
    "Sir, it says here you are dead."

  • @josephabdallah9369
    @josephabdallah9369 Před 2 lety +854

    When I was a teenager, I received a letter from the government stating that we would no longer be get child support payments, because my father was dead. I went over to his house and showed him the letter, he thought it was a joke and started walk around the house pretending to be a zombie. It turns out, he was in the hospital six months before with some complications with his heart and they listed him as deceased. It took him almost a year to get all his records off the DMF and get his Social Security, bank and his drivers license back. He actually was able to sue the hospital and as part of the settlement they were forced to help help him get his identity back. When he actually died several years later, he was in hospice (again, issues with his heart) I was informed via phone call from the duty nurse and I asked, "Are you sure?" she was like "Uh, yeah, pretty sure".

    • @gizmoduuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu2773
      @gizmoduuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu2773 Před 2 lety +37

      yiikes

    • @lionelsanches8699
      @lionelsanches8699 Před 2 lety +26

      I would of have said f my identity I want money lol

    • @agustinvenegas5238
      @agustinvenegas5238 Před rokem +43

      That must have been a good anecdote for the funeral though, sorry for your loss regardless

    • @josephabdallah9369
      @josephabdallah9369 Před rokem +88

      @@agustinvenegas5238 Yeah, I actually told this story at his funeral. Everyone had a good laugh, my elderly aunt went as far as knocking on his coffin asking if he was faking it.

    • @y_fam_goeglyd
      @y_fam_goeglyd Před 9 měsíci +17

      @@josephabdallah9369 My - definitely late - father would have adored your aunt. That's exactly the sort of thing he would have done. He'd have liked your dad too (and probably all your family if you're all the same) for dealing with a stressful situation with his sense of humour intact. But it must have been the last thing someone with a heart condition needed.
      At least he and his lawyer were smart enough to force the hospital to assist in overturning the problem. That probably cut down the time in limbo (not sure if that's figurative or literal in his case!) that most others seem to languish in. That definitely was a "pro-gamer move" as the meme says.
      Sorry you lost him, though. It sounds like he was taken too early. My own dad lived into his late 80s, but after losing Mum five years before, it was only a matter of time because after 60 years married, his heart was truly broken. It was painful for the family, because he was awesome, but there was no surprise.
      I hope you're doing okay. It can take a long time to completely get over losing someone so dear. Best wishes to you and your family 💜.

  • @kieranmilner4208
    @kieranmilner4208 Před 2 lety +1498

    Electronic death records sounds like a edgy record company

    • @alexv3357
      @alexv3357 Před 2 lety +68

      Or a great metal band

    • @maple494
      @maple494 Před 2 lety +19

      Wow it really does :D

    • @robertwilloughby8050
      @robertwilloughby8050 Před 2 lety +8

      I'd have said Synth-Goth or Prog myself.....😉

    • @dippst
      @dippst Před 2 lety +9

      either a hipster label that only releases on vinyl and reel-to-reel, or a label that exclusively signs technometal/industrial metal bands

    • @delta61
      @delta61 Před 17 dny

      The publish songs by Death Master (File) :))

  • @wlinden
    @wlinden Před 2 lety +963

    when I was working at the Social Security Office, i was contacted by a woman who according to the Master Beneficiary list was not only dead, but died twice four years apart.

    • @unitrader403
      @unitrader403 Před 2 lety +155

      As the saying goes "Third time is the charm" (or something like this :D )

    • @tyrannosaurusimperator
      @tyrannosaurusimperator Před 2 lety +105

      The weird part was she called to report her third death.

    • @dudelikesWoW
      @dudelikesWoW Před 2 lety +34

      Ah yes, Mrs. Lazarus

    • @renard6012
      @renard6012 Před 2 lety +18

      How do they call her? Goku?

    • @opticbit
      @opticbit Před 2 lety +3

      Who did she piss off?

  • @SceurdiaStudios
    @SceurdiaStudios Před 2 lety +1957

    It's kinda weird how even dying is complicated

    • @99xs
      @99xs Před 2 lety +53

      This is why I don’t want to die

    • @RBRT02
      @RBRT02 Před 2 lety +25

      Life is complicated, so death is also complicated. Not that weird.

    • @exeterra4825
      @exeterra4825 Před 2 lety +49

      @@RBRT02 Its not though, life is very simple in itself. We're just making it more and more complicated as time goes on

    • @reversemudkip8798
      @reversemudkip8798 Před 2 lety +17

      @@exeterra4825 that’s why we need to purge the system. Too much bullsh*t nowadays

    • @benedani9580
      @benedani9580 Před 2 lety +10

      @@reversemudkip8798 I unironically agree; you know what happens when people are overwhelmed with a bunch of shit? Stress and potentially suicide. Good job, humans.

  • @Pining_for_the_fjords
    @Pining_for_the_fjords Před 2 lety +377

    What did the undertaker say when he buried the wrong body?
    "I've made a grave mistake."

  • @donkey-fart
    @donkey-fart Před 2 lety +258

    "Bring out your dead..."
    "I'M NOT DEAD YET!"

  • @CatWithHumanEars
    @CatWithHumanEars Před 2 lety +633

    This actually happened to my Grandfather-in-law and he has such a great sense of humor, I came over for Easter dinner and we did the normal "How are you?" "Oh fine how are you?" and he hits me with the "Oh y'know apparently I'm dead" which left me entirely speechless and confused until he explained.

  • @TrendyGamer-is2wr
    @TrendyGamer-is2wr Před 2 lety +220

    "I thought you were dead"
    "My death was, greatly exaggerated"

  • @dragossh
    @dragossh Před 2 lety +152

    A guy in Romania sued the state to cancel his death certificate, and lost. Because he came back to life too late. There's a month( i think ) after a death certificate is issued when it can be annulled hered. He showed up after 3 years. He was working in Turkey meanwhile, never told anyone, and his relatives declared him dead.

    • @Xnoob545
      @Xnoob545 Před 5 měsíci +14

      Why the fuck would you declare someone dead if you don't have proof?

    • @DarkShard5728
      @DarkShard5728 Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@@Xnoob545stupidity

    • @tks2072
      @tks2072 Před 3 měsíci

      ​​@XnoobSpeakable I mean 3 years...
      Okay, to elaborate, it's not the no proof that's the stupid part it's the fact he lost somehow.
      You can be pronounced dead If you aren't discovered within a reasonable amount of time.
      If you fall off a ship and nobody can find you after like 2 weeks you are just presumed dead. Missing for years? Sometimes they do presume you dead. Depends on circumstances
      If you evaporate for 3 years and none of your friends or presumably relatives know... then they might just consider you dead.
      Of course sometimes you're just perpetually "missing"... think like kids gone missing but are never found alive nor dead...
      Or those that are missing in combat (MIA).

    • @randomcow505
      @randomcow505 Před 3 měsíci +7

      @@Xnoob545 to pay the bills and or avoid getting sued, and I dont mean that in a morbid gold digger way
      if your husband just went missing one day without a trace, and you dident find him for 3 years, its pretty good to assume they were murdered or something, and so you do that so you get what's left to you in the will since you likely just lost half of your household income.
      Also, if they are receiving some form of benefits that money will still come in every month until they are declared dead, but there is only so long you can do that before the government will start wondering if this is benefits fraud and so you have to declare them dead at some point so you dont get sued for the money back.

    • @InevitableMe
      @InevitableMe Před 22 dny

      ​@@randomcow505 In Australia, if you go missing, you cannot be declared dead until seven years have passed, after which it is automatic. This, of course, causes problems for partners who, say, shared a bank account that was in the missing person's name, and cannot be accessed by them without a death certificate, which they won't have for seven years.

  • @ihavetowait90daystochangem67
    @ihavetowait90daystochangem67 Před 2 lety +3035

    I guess Jesus really needs this video 2000 years ago

    • @qwozyy6396
      @qwozyy6396 Před 2 lety +18

      LMAOOO

    • @yueshijoorya601
      @yueshijoorya601 Před 2 lety +5

      And I need your picture changed asap.

    • @benjaminkok1755
      @benjaminkok1755 Před 2 lety +28

      You realize Jesus wasn't an american right?

    • @jpaugh64
      @jpaugh64 Před 2 lety +15

      Yeah, he could've stuck around longer if he'd qualified for a home loan!

    • @eliyahufogel
      @eliyahufogel Před 2 lety +2

      He's dead dead

  • @QuantumHistorian
    @QuantumHistorian Před 2 lety +1779

    1/3 of one percent is a horrifyingly high error rate for something like this. Imagine if that was your error rate when driving: you'd have a couple of crashes a year, just from commuting, only from your own mistakes. Or to compare it a different part of the bureaucracy: it would be enough to change the outcome of elections in swing states.

    • @kkmac7247
      @kkmac7247 Před 2 lety +7

      @@Rain_Beau why would he be sarcastic?

    • @somethinglikethat2176
      @somethinglikethat2176 Před 2 lety +140

      An estimated 2,854,838 died in the US in 2019. That's about 8,565 people who were wrongly declared dead.
      The system itself should be error checking. If they type the wrong number, it should pick up that the rest of the details don't much.

    • @somethinglikethat2176
      @somethinglikethat2176 Před 2 lety +66

      @@Rain_Beau I don't think they are. 1/3 of one percent sounds low but it's actually very high for that sort of thing.

    • @howardbaxter2514
      @howardbaxter2514 Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah, government screw ups! Everyone loves those…
      Still can’t believe people want the government to control their lives. SMH.

    • @LucenProject
      @LucenProject Před 2 lety +52

      2:11 "7-12,000 Americans get wrongly listed as dead every year. Daily, that's somewhere between one and 8 billion people a day."
      Am I missing something in the math here? Is it a joke that's going over my head?

  • @survivedandthriving
    @survivedandthriving Před 2 lety +185

    A few years ago a colleague of mine ('D') at my last job was wrongly declared dead by our employer. The employer stopped paying D's salary, cutoff D's benefits, and even sent a form letter of condolence to D's spouse.
    And, you guessed it, D showing up alive at HR was deemed insufficient by HR to have D restored to their records of the living, reinstating D's salary, etc. It took some doing, but a couple of months later D (while still working without pay to maintain seniority and employment) finally got reinstated at work. Meanwhile, D still had to pay rent, groceries, etc. And, you guessed it, the employer never apologized for the mistake and all of the hassles they caused to D.

    • @Pining_for_the_fjords
      @Pining_for_the_fjords Před 2 lety +41

      If it was a problem just with the employer, I would definitely sue and find a new job.

    • @lemonandgaming6013
      @lemonandgaming6013 Před 2 lety +38

      did they atleast repay all the owed money (plus a reasonable "we beeped up" fee)

    • @howardbaxter2514
      @howardbaxter2514 Před 2 lety +31

      Yeah, that should be taken to court. That is incredibly illegal.

    • @vladimirenlow4388
      @vladimirenlow4388 Před 2 lety +34

      @@howardbaxter2514 Not necessarily illegal, but horribly negligent and definitely worth suing over.

    • @howardbaxter2514
      @howardbaxter2514 Před 2 lety +45

      @@vladimirenlow4388 declaring someone dead at your work so you don’t pay them is most certainly illegal.

  • @andrzej5045
    @andrzej5045 Před 2 lety +495

    This reminds me of when I worked at a state's department of licensing headquarters. I was cancelling some old IDs and I accidentally clicked on the wrong person and cancelled some random person's ID. There was no way to go back or see what I just did so the management didn't care. It'll only suck if they get pulled over, in which case it'll really suck. Sorry random person...

    • @pseudonymity0000
      @pseudonymity0000 Před 2 lety +133

      Wow. Gov systems, however clunky they are, do keep an audit trail.
      Your management just couldn't be assed calling IT (or whoever has access to the audit data) to see what happened. if you know the time it happened, the cancelation request would have been logged and time stamped.

    • @andrewweaver2517
      @andrewweaver2517 Před 2 lety +5

      Was this in Alabama?

    • @andrzej5045
      @andrzej5045 Před 2 lety +9

      @@andrewweaver2517 No. West coast.

    • @andrzej5045
      @andrzej5045 Před 2 lety +27

      @@pseudonymity0000 Damn. This was years ago.

    • @gizmoduuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu2773
      @gizmoduuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu2773 Před 2 lety +2

      @@null7581 you're 5 months late to the comment and probably much later to the event, that's useless now

  • @andrewweaver2517
    @andrewweaver2517 Před 2 lety +83

    Happened to my friend, he got pulled over and the cop told him that he was dead and that he legally could not drive the car and he had to have his parents come and get him and go immediately to the courthouse and figure out why he was "dead".

    • @truebluekit
      @truebluekit Před 2 lety +8

      @andy dettling this is what you did! for others, scroll above (or somewhere) until you find that name, read his comment LOL

  • @BallisticDamages
    @BallisticDamages Před 2 lety +269

    It's honestly one of the most frustrating things that can happen. Have a close friend currently dealing with this in Canada

    • @jbird4478
      @jbird4478 Před 2 lety +51

      It kind of sounds similar to identity theft: an endless stream of bureaucratic hell.

    • @danielbishop1863
      @danielbishop1863 Před 2 lety +47

      A similar thing happened when my grandfather died. Whoever typed up his death certificate put his date of death a month early. And based on this inaccurate information, Social Security would not pay his final monthly check, and Medicare would not pay for his final hospital visit, until my mother and grandmother got the bureaucracy to sort things out.

    • @barakathiongo4835
      @barakathiongo4835 Před 2 lety +19

      Sorry bro. May he rest in peace🙏

    • @Totally_Bonkers
      @Totally_Bonkers Před 2 lety +1

      i hope your friend's whole "death" situation gets better

  • @marthamryglod291
    @marthamryglod291 Před 2 lety +46

    There are so many stories of death causing complications. Like one where a subscription service wouldn't stop sending magazines to a widow because they require the subscriber to verbally cancel. He's dead!

  • @TheEDFLegacy
    @TheEDFLegacy Před 2 lety +319

    Here's the million-dollar question...
    If you rob a bank and get arrested, while you are listed as dead... can you be convicted of a crime?

    • @oenrn
      @oenrn Před 2 lety +93

      What if you commit a crime and get the death penalty?

    • @Nist0923
      @Nist0923 Před 2 lety +26

      These people are asking the big questions

    • @heberthr.6978
      @heberthr.6978 Před 2 lety +8

      yes

    • @waddledee6642
      @waddledee6642 Před 2 lety +39

      Ferb i know what we’re gonna do today

    • @LamborghiniDiabloSVPursuit
      @LamborghiniDiabloSVPursuit Před rokem

      You're still on the hook.
      If they believe to verify who you are, it gets added to your post-mortem criminal record. If they don't, you get tried as a John Doe.

  • @SpruceOaks
    @SpruceOaks Před 2 lety +131

    Correction: The DMF database is, itself, NOT public information. Individual death records, ARE public, but not the database that is the tabulation of all death records.

    • @prometheus7387
      @prometheus7387 Před 2 lety +1

      What is the implications of this?

    • @kevinolson9940
      @kevinolson9940 Před 2 lety +10

      @@prometheus7387 more content for the all the errors we made videos

    • @NFSHeld
      @NFSHeld Před 2 lety

      Doesn't he say that at 3:01, or is that something else?

  • @evansavage3515
    @evansavage3515 Před 2 lety +97

    “Hey chief ya biffed it” I’m dead 💀

  • @roflcopterIII
    @roflcopterIII Před 2 lety +120

    So fun fact: the ssa fixing you getting accidentally declared dead is called "performing a resurrection."
    Edrs can also take months to come in, so it's not a super great tool.

  • @andreastrawoger3430
    @andreastrawoger3430 Před 2 lety +44

    I worked at IT for a hospital when we got a support ticket "Death person at the info counter". As it turned out the person was life and kicking, but was in urgent need of someone to manually hack the hospital database to be declared undead.

  • @amonia1766
    @amonia1766 Před 2 lety +142

    I'm not joking when I say this: a guy in my country once had to prove that he was alive to get social security benefit, and got everything right, but couldn't prove that he was alive the year prior and had the benefit negated.

    • @Totally_Bonkers
      @Totally_Bonkers Před 2 lety +29

      "couldn't prove that he was alive"
      the guy: sir, I am alive
      other person: total bs, you're clearly dead.
      the guy: but i-
      other person: nope
      the guy: but-
      other person: dead. no further statements.

    • @MaryamMaqdisi
      @MaryamMaqdisi Před 2 lety

      LMAO poor guy

    • @gustavo_crivelli
      @gustavo_crivelli Před 2 lety +4

      Let me guess, Brazil

    • @amonia1766
      @amonia1766 Před 2 lety +2

      @@gustavo_crivelli óbvio, né

  • @mornananchy495
    @mornananchy495 Před 2 lety +66

    Fun fact, my grandma was actually listed dead when her husband, my grandpa died. This is in Canada, but someone decided to list both as dead for some reason. Luckily that was corrected pretty quickly.

    • @OfficialRishab
      @OfficialRishab Před 29 dny

      Blud was serious when someone told him couples should live together at any situation or condition

  • @queenofnever9013
    @queenofnever9013 Před 2 lety +33

    This actually happened to my grandma when my grandpa died. She had to go through this whole process of the bank providing the info to prove to Social Security that she was alive. Though she had a lot of fun walking into the bank and Social Security and saying, "Hi! I'm alive!" She's got a great sense of humor and still laughs about it despite almost losing her benefits.

  • @The-Plaguefellow
    @The-Plaguefellow Před 2 lety +36

    You know, for a nation that's so keen on surveilling their citizens, they're awfully incompetent at actually keeping track of them.

  • @lucystarlight8887
    @lucystarlight8887 Před 2 lety +37

    I recently read a book called Unbroken, about a WWII pilot who after crashing in the Pacific was considered dead, while in reality he was in a Japanese POW camp for two years. He said his favorite thing to do when he got back home was give surprise visits to his old acquaintances who thought he was dead.

  • @Blockhog
    @Blockhog Před 2 lety +39

    They need to have a alive test, with questions like
    1. Are you breathing?
    2.are you responding to stimuli
    3. Do you have a thirst for human flesh, brains, and or blood that can only be quenched by going out at night and finding a suitable victim to eat.
    That last one wouldent be a real question, their testing if your dead not if your a politician

  • @patrickracer43
    @patrickracer43 Před 2 lety +68

    I hate when I'm legally dead without actually being dead

  • @brunosanchez1375
    @brunosanchez1375 Před 2 lety +466

    It's always bizarre to hear how terrible is the social security system in america, a lot of this problems would be solved with a better system of ID

    • @massimookissed1023
      @massimookissed1023 Před 2 lety +35

      One checksum digit in the SS number could help spot errors.

    • @erichobbs4042
      @erichobbs4042 Před 2 lety +75

      That is because social security numbers are not supposed to be used for identification purposes. I believe that it even says that right on the card. Of course what is supposed to happen and what actually happens are two different things. I think Windover may have actually done a video on that very topic.

    • @massimookissed1023
      @massimookissed1023 Před 2 lety +48

      @@erichobbs4042 , I vaguely remember CGP Grey doing a vid about SS cards being used for unintended purposes.

    • @erichobbs4042
      @erichobbs4042 Před 2 lety +5

      @@massimookissed1023 Yeah, that makes more sense

    • @DJMatGE
      @DJMatGE Před 2 lety +6

      Exactly what i thought too! I guess you also saw cpgGrey's video about that? ;)

  • @hunngryento
    @hunngryento Před 2 lety +197

    Each day that passes, the USA reminds me more of the Imperium in warhammer 40k.

    • @federico339
      @federico339 Před 2 lety +9

      @Fax Fax in 2021? Just use e-mail

    • @hedgehog3180
      @hedgehog3180 Před 2 lety +1

      Don't think the US is going to ever reach even a thousand years old though.

    • @nathnathn
      @nathnathn Před 2 lety +2

      Except in the imperium you would shot if the records said you were supposed to be dead.

    • @dean_l33
      @dean_l33 Před 2 lety

      @@nathnathn Hey its a self correcting problem anyway

    • @trent800
      @trent800 Před 2 lety

      @@nathnathn More efficient that way

  • @VwhynotzoidbergV
    @VwhynotzoidbergV Před 2 lety +42

    Love the "daily, between 1-8 billion people a day

  • @ReplayJay
    @ReplayJay Před 2 lety +34

    Next on Wendover products: The logistics of keeping a list of every united states citizen who is alive or dead.

  • @jeroddobson4680
    @jeroddobson4680 Před 2 lety +5

    I called 1-800-NOT-LVNG and got an insurance company. WHERE'S MY PIZZA SAM?

  • @blackfalcon1324
    @blackfalcon1324 Před 2 lety +10

    There is a guy in romania who is legally listed as dead and his appeal to be declared not dead was rejected because he missed the appeals window.

  • @oksowhat
    @oksowhat Před 2 lety +50

    there is literally a movie about it in Bollywood, the struggles of being dead, lol

    • @balpreetsingh6834
      @balpreetsingh6834 Před 2 lety +6

      It's based on the life of an actual person, to top it off.

    • @dxt2891
      @dxt2891 Před 2 lety +5

      lol i came here to leave a comment about that movie. For anyone interested it is called "Kaagaz"

    • @oksowhat
      @oksowhat Před 2 lety

      @@dxt2891 hindi movie koi nahi dekhta bro

    • @Think_Inc
      @Think_Inc Před 2 lety

      @@oksowhat That isn't very true, unless the movie hasn't been dubbed.

  • @lennon2490
    @lennon2490 Před 2 lety +28

    Docter: "sorry he passed away"
    Me: **crying**
    Docter: "haha, sike. He is doing well. But now i fucked you guys financially".
    Me: **Having a mental breakdown**

  • @zacross8504
    @zacross8504 Před 2 lety +15

    reminds me of something i heard about a guy in a european country. Dude moved to another country for work and several years later his wife submitted paperwork to say he was dead, several years after that, he tried going somewhere but was stopped and send back to his home country because he couldnt get updated paperwork or something (Because of being dead) and when he went to court to prove he was alive they were like "Sorry, cant do anything about it"

  • @TXnine7nine
    @TXnine7nine Před 2 lety +20

    0:19 Now I’m sad because $7.99 for a 3 topping pizza is pretty good 😂

  • @Rahulsinghkoli
    @Rahulsinghkoli Před 2 lety +45

    imagine : going to bank and doing a big money heist
    and then when police will come and arrest you
    and then judge will sentence you jail for lifetime but he can't cause you are already dead !
    so they can't send you to jail
    just think about it !

    • @autisticboi2992
      @autisticboi2992 Před 2 lety +21

      judge: i sentence you to life in prison
      me: *shows death certificate* can i go now?
      judge: ok

    • @Rahulsinghkoli
      @Rahulsinghkoli Před 2 lety +2

      @@autisticboi2992 Exactly 😂 Now you can do anything without going to jail or sentence to death cuz you are already dead !

    • @prime_optimus
      @prime_optimus Před 2 lety +1

      What if the judge resurrects you?

    • @Rahulsinghkoli
      @Rahulsinghkoli Před 2 lety +4

      @@prime_optimus then, he can't punish me for things i done before resurrection cuz i was dead earlier !

  • @Chase3141
    @Chase3141 Před 2 lety +22

    "That's somewhere between 1 and 8 billion people a day"
    Thank you, HAI, that narrows it right down

    • @LilacMonarch
      @LilacMonarch Před 2 lety +1

      But what about 0 people? Surely there are at least a few days this doesn't happen

    • @Chase3141
      @Chase3141 Před 2 lety +1

      @@LilacMonarch Well first of all, it's an average, not an exact number for each day. But second, if 7000 people are wrongfully declared legally dead every year (the low end of the estimate), and we assume they occur uniformly throughout the year, then the odds of it not happening at all on any given day are about 1 in 218,960,437, meaning it would happen on average once every 600,000 years

  • @TheBaegislash
    @TheBaegislash Před 2 lety +52

    I don't know if "Call the link on your screen" was intentional or not, but it's hilarious regardless

    • @clvrswine
      @clvrswine Před 2 lety

      OK, anime avatar. Grow up.

    • @ofs5554
      @ofs5554 Před 2 lety +12

      @@clvrswine Says the guy who's still bullying random people on the internet.

    • @TheBaegislash
      @TheBaegislash Před 2 lety +8

      @@clvrswine I'm sorry your parents don't love you dude

    • @butterflieslie5932
      @butterflieslie5932 Před 2 lety +1

      Yes call them harassment and bullying people he lies just for money and fame

    • @TheBaegislash
      @TheBaegislash Před 2 lety +5

      @@butterflieslie5932 Come again?

  • @pacificostudios
    @pacificostudios Před 2 lety +4

    My mother passed, and I was amazed how few people I had to inform. Social Security stopped her checks right away, and the Federal Retirement people and the Veterans Administration wrote me a letter stating that they had been informed that she was gone and please let contact them to let them know either way. Even the life insurance I collected on right away because they double-checked the obituaries online.

  • @boarbot7829
    @boarbot7829 Před 2 lety +66

    RealLifeLore and HAI in the same day! It’s a good day!
    Edit: And WonderWhy and Polymatter!!
    Edit 2: And Veritasium!

  • @FairyCRat
    @FairyCRat Před 2 lety +43

    Hearing Sam excited makes me feel uncomfortable for some reason

  • @billyyank2198
    @billyyank2198 Před 2 lety +10

    "Is he dead?"
    "Well yes, but actually no."

  • @Peripepp
    @Peripepp Před 2 lety +4

    I work in a remote border hospital. Patients there don't always have BPJS (the Indonesian national health insurance), so sometimes their friend/family use their card for the patient. Sometimes the patient condition is beyond help and died eventually. Problem is, the patient is administered using other's card, so in the national database, it is the card owner who is declared dead…

  • @1212Nato
    @1212Nato Před 2 lety +6

    This happened to my uncle after my mom passed away. They somehow mixed up Ruth and Russell and my uncle was “dead” instead of my mom for about a year

  • @de132
    @de132 Před 2 lety +6

    Lol the voice take on "You Just Got Widow-Ized" was perfect

  • @playgamepark
    @playgamepark Před 2 lety +10

    So in a sense, its a sick game show hosted by the US Social Security in which unlucky winners will be treated as dead for all intents and purposes.

    • @howardbaxter2514
      @howardbaxter2514 Před 2 lety +5

      Welcome to government work. You thought the DMV bad, just wait until you are royally fucked by the SSA and IRS simultaneously.

  • @incognito1783
    @incognito1783 Před 2 lety +3

    “Here’s the thing about dying. It means your dead. But what if instead of being dead... you weren’t-”
    ... thank you- I.. I needed this reassurance. I’ve hit a hard patch in life and this really helps...

  • @adamtaylor766
    @adamtaylor766 Před 2 lety +1

    my great uncle was declared dead a while ago, its caused a lot of issues because that makes most companies not accept you anymore, including things like insurance. he's still alive, but it was very inconvenient when it happened. basically everything using social security gets messed up by being legally dead.

  • @magusperde365
    @magusperde365 Před 2 lety +5

    My problem is the opposite. I've felt dead for years and yet I'm still waking up, going to work, and crying

  • @henryginn7490
    @henryginn7490 Před 2 lety +14

    Nice to know that as always the US has a robust and well thought out system to handle things

  • @WarwickSlater
    @WarwickSlater Před 2 lety +6

    I heard people are dying to get into the DMF book

    • @kkmac7247
      @kkmac7247 Před 2 lety +1

      This should have more than 3 likes

  • @NinjaAgnostic
    @NinjaAgnostic Před 2 lety +17

    Really thought the AI wrote this one again at the beginning

  • @dobman01
    @dobman01 Před 2 lety +28

    "the ssa has proposed a way to fix the problem"
    well that sounds like bs
    "its someone elses problem"
    I stand corrected

    • @tylerpeterson4726
      @tylerpeterson4726 Před 2 lety

      To be fair, government agencies identifying that their responsibilities are already being handled elsewhere in the government is a good thing. No need to duplicate effort.

    • @unitrader403
      @unitrader403 Před 2 lety

      @@tylerpeterson4726 This doesnt apply to the Department of Redundancy Department though.

  • @lukaszbielanin
    @lukaszbielanin Před 2 lety +19

    What bugs me most is that DFM AND DMF is used for the same things.

  • @akaltar
    @akaltar Před 2 lety +1

    Kudos to the animator for that smooth transition to the youtube ting link popup!
    Give this person a tip so they can treat their partner for a nice dinner!

  • @penguinvic4188
    @penguinvic4188 Před rokem

    Some years ago my passport expired. They usually notify you about this. Contacted Passports, got told I was dead. Contacted Births & Deaths only confirmed this. Got told things could be rectified if I could supply a valid passport. See the problem.
    Interestingly, almost all other government departments and businesses didn’t mind at all that I had died. Staff were either understanding or amused. Land rates (taxes) and Banks didn’t care so long as I paid up. Welfare was surprisingly good here, and accepted my confirming witness that I was still alive (they wouldn’t accept the word of a dead person). Drivers licenses were amused by this and said provided I obey road law, being dead shouldn’t be a problem. Airlines companies confirmed that dead usually travel in coffins in cargo, but they would make an exception in my case (but I couldn’t travel overseas). Water, Electricity, was no problem either. Businesses were okay with cash payments (credit from dead is more problematic). I could still vote (a worry if you think about it).
    So life (or death) still went on. I never did get my passport renewed or find out if Births & Deaths fixed the problem. But I dare not even ask them. Besides, being dead is not so bad and my social life has not suffered.

  • @youtubeSuckssNow
    @youtubeSuckssNow Před 2 lety +7

    M*A*S*H s4e4 'The Late Captain Pierce'
    Hawkeye is declared dead by the army and has to try and get back his benefits and contact his dad that he in fact, is alive.

  • @Thebreakdownshow1
    @Thebreakdownshow1 Před 2 lety +14

    The Government won't let you be even when you are dead lol. Half as interesting I love your content always learning from your sense of humour for my own channel.

    • @howardbaxter2514
      @howardbaxter2514 Před 2 lety +4

      There is only one certainty in life, and that is taxes. Death is no longer such a certainty. Thanks bureaucracy!

  • @kams8759
    @kams8759 Před 2 lety +1

    loving the energy from sam lately

  • @abbycaldwell3166
    @abbycaldwell3166 Před 2 lety +1

    Gotta say there's some fantastic choices of stock footage for this video. A+

  • @YouAreBreathing
    @YouAreBreathing Před 2 lety +3

    0:14 "Call the link on your screen right now"
    No, I rather click on the phone number on my screen.

  • @shamiksinha4808
    @shamiksinha4808 Před 2 lety +2

    There was a movie here in India which was based on the struggles of an old man (who had been declared dead) trying to fix his situation and dealing with corrupt and lazy government officers because otherwise, he would not get his pension. it was a comedy but carried a message strong and heavy... (Movie was Office Office in case you were wondering)

  • @EibaProductions
    @EibaProductions Před 2 lety +2

    Funfact: In Germany, there's a private company (called Schufa) evaluating the credit worthyness of each citizen by analyzing payment data. And since they make mistakes, some people have been declared dead as well. And since they are a private company, they can do with their data what they want, and they can change the status of anyone by will. This has led to several incidences of people being declared dead, but also that an arrest warrant was pending. Or they are credit unworthy due to someone else in a different part of the country with no connections to that person hasn't paid one bill. Lots of such stuff.

    • @Guitartube25
      @Guitartube25 Před 3 měsíci

      Glad to see then, that the SCHUFA has recently been stripped of at least some of their power. Idiotic bastards, the whole lot.

  • @jadenknott
    @jadenknott Před 2 lety +2

    I had this happen to me and it screwed me over getting jobs and almost screwed me out of being a freshman in college. instead of having my dad being labeled deceased it they labeled me as deceased
    Happened around summer time

  • @AbsolXGuardian
    @AbsolXGuardian Před 2 lety +3

    The scariest part is that this isn't something that happens so infrequently that every person whose been a victim of this is local news worthy at the least and are all in a chart on a Wikipedia in the style of everyone under 15 who has given live birth.

  • @kylergingerich2041
    @kylergingerich2041 Před 2 lety +3

    @2:14 idk if im just disabled after grinding out schoolwork for 13 hours or if this is whack. How does 7k-12k people a year translate to every day ONE TO EIGHT BILLION PEOPLE DAILY? (if you precede the fact with "every day", then you don't need to spedficy "daily" at the end).
    Easy to nitpick when I should compliment. love your channels content and cant imagine how much work goes into each and every video. I enjoy HAI a ton. Perfect for ~5-10min breaks to eat inbetween studies or just to hear sams perfect voice. also dude these jokes are just the best thing in the world. "prank their widow" ahahahaha

    • @GKplus8
      @GKplus8 Před rokem +1

      It's a joke. The joke being that the range spreads from 1 person to the total polulation of the earth, so the fact is technically true, but meaningless. Would be like saying "It's some number of people, but I don't feel like telling you how much."
      Sam has done these type of useless examples before ("a football field is larger than a pencil" type comparisons) but this one was more subtle because the correct information isn't obvious/well known, so without paying close attention you may miss it.

    • @gmansplit
      @gmansplit Před 7 měsíci

      It's a joke

  • @ScooterinAB
    @ScooterinAB Před 2 lety

    I was hoping this would touch on situations like missing persons being declared dead and then turning up.

  • @kiradotee
    @kiradotee Před 2 lety +1

    Some of the stock footage fits so well it's insane.

  • @ARK613
    @ARK613 Před 2 lety +6

    5:30 "Assuming you're not dead, live in the U.S., and pay for a cell phone plan...'
    Shucks, only two of those three apply to me.

  • @T.h.w.T
    @T.h.w.T Před 2 lety +4

    3:44 it's been 3:44 minutes, not 4, add this to your every mistake you've ever made video series

  • @DoctorX17
    @DoctorX17 Před 2 lety

    Hi Ting! Thanks for sponsoring HAI

  • @e.v.squatch5835
    @e.v.squatch5835 Před rokem +1

    About 20 years ago I received a letter from the state claiming my wife was deceased (which came as a shock to us both). I spent 3 days on the phone trying to fix the problem - which was a funeral home somehow screwed up the SSN on a certificate of some kind and poof, she's now dead. After 3 days of arguments with state employees who have the IQ of slightly stale toast, I finally was able to convince them - By telling them that if she was really deceased, I had 2 minor children (5 and 7 at the time) who were entitled to survivors benefits dating back to the date of death. SUDDENLY, much like the biblical Lazarus himself, she was magically brought back from the dead - the minute they realized this was going to get EXPENSIVE.

  • @Dumb-Comment
    @Dumb-Comment Před 2 lety +6

    What if you were dead before being dead but then died, would you be listed as "Dead-dead"

  • @Guderian0617
    @Guderian0617 Před 2 lety +5

    If you are legally dead and you commit a crime, can they sue you for it?

    • @vladimirenlow4388
      @vladimirenlow4388 Před 2 lety +1

      I remember hearing about a movie involving a man who faked his death and framed his wife for it, and after she got out of prison she tried to kill him, under the justification that she couldn't be arrested for killing a "dead" man. I don't recall it doing well at the box office, which is probably why I can't remember the title.

    • @megarockman
      @megarockman Před 2 lety +2

      @@vladimirenlow4388 Double Jeopardy. Which isn't what the term actually means in law, but Hollywood, so...

  • @licoriceluv906
    @licoriceluv906 Před 2 lety +1

    3:34 Come on that was such a perfect chance to say imposter lol

  • @kulrigalestout
    @kulrigalestout Před 2 lety +1

    Well. I guess that explains why when I managed my father's estate I got a letter saying that there was a potential event that could have damaged his credit score. Doesn't explain why I would have gotten a letter at my new house for the previous occupant saying the same thing, though, considering she had been dead for over a year.

  • @jacobdockter3436
    @jacobdockter3436 Před 2 lety +2

    true story SSI had me as dead once. it wasn't in the actual main SC system but they were like yeah we need you to come into office, turns out they had called my phone number, someone said I was dead. that's it. but then they saw I got income from dividends and was using my Medicaid still (my state has program with Medicaid for people on SSI who went to work under certain amount yada yada) . had to go into office give them ID lol

  • @danielmarsden4573
    @danielmarsden4573 Před 2 lety +25

    2:20 I’m not even sure what you were intending to say here but 7000-12000 divided by 365 is defo not between 1-8 billion.

    • @Pence912
      @Pence912 Před 2 lety +20

      It was a joke. Between one person and 8 billion people, not one billion to 8 billion people

    • @namenamename390
      @namenamename390 Před 2 lety +5

      No, not between 1 Billion and 8 Billion, between 1, as in a singular one, and 8 Billion

    • @welchphilip
      @welchphilip Před 2 lety +2

      between one and eight billion aka everyone on the planet, not one billion to eight billion

    • @Lvjy
      @Lvjy Před 2 lety +3

      It is, the values go between 19 and 39 which is between 1 and 8000000000

    • @danielmarsden4573
      @danielmarsden4573 Před 2 lety +1

      Not funny, didn’t laugh

  • @jacextreme6432
    @jacextreme6432 Před 2 lety

    What a great way to start off October

  • @paddyj7690
    @paddyj7690 Před 2 lety +1

    "Daily, that's 1-8 billion per day" I did not understand that.

  • @chlorophylte7487
    @chlorophylte7487 Před 2 lety +4

    1:20 intentional?

  • @dermittelfinger5903
    @dermittelfinger5903 Před 2 lety +3

    As a European I always enjoy to see that the richest country in the world is basically a giant banana republic just because they think change is evil.

    • @erraticonteuse
      @erraticonteuse Před 2 lety +1

      As an American, I can detect no lies, falsehoods, inaccuracies, nor misunderstandings in this statement.

    • @NikkyElso
      @NikkyElso Před 2 lety

      I literally have read through these comments and came across one saying the same thing can happen in the Netherlands too. Also saw stories of it happening in Canada as well.. So go take your anti-american euro-nationalism elsewhere.

    • @dermittelfinger5903
      @dermittelfinger5903 Před 2 lety +1

      @@NikkyElso ofcourse this can happen in Europe. Do you know what can happen in Europe too? You can get shot, go to prison, get bankrupt on medical bills or school loans, get murdered by the police, being sued for obvious bullshit and lose non the less. All these things can happen in Europe but are much more likely to take place in the USA. My comment wasn't anti American but a little joke. If you want to hear what's horrible in Europe just ask me and I will tell you. No country or union in that case is perfect and all of them have their problems. But I see a lot of easy fixes for some of those in the USA but it wont happen because you cling to a piece of paper written 200 years ago and just dont want to change anything about it. You have surely good fixes for EU problems, that we are too stubborn to go through with.
      My friend, dont take stuff so super seriously if someone criticizes your country. In fact this is a sign that someone deeply cares about it and only wants the best for it.

  • @Chetikians
    @Chetikians Před 2 lety +2

    I love that the coupon at the beginning of the video expires this month. Today is the only day you can redeem the coupon lmao

  • @Retaliatixn
    @Retaliatixn Před 2 lety

    LMFAO, the Sponge-dead Square-passed got me.

  • @melodywawichi802
    @melodywawichi802 Před 2 lety +3

    Today I learned that deadbeat is an actual word and not something the Grim Reaper’s apprentice made up.

  • @Dats_Mark
    @Dats_Mark Před 2 lety +4

    How is "Death Master File" NOT a Metal Band Name?

  • @YourLordMobius
    @YourLordMobius Před 2 lety +1

    Talking about death this close to october? I approve.

  • @sydneymomma11
    @sydneymomma11 Před rokem

    "Or SpongeBob SquarePassed?"
    I laughed so hard I had to rewind! Subbed.

  • @8KTraveler
    @8KTraveler Před 2 lety +6

    At 2:24 it should be between "19-32 people per day" not 1-8 billon people

  • @Warbugzz
    @Warbugzz Před 2 lety +5

    "They say the ghost of an oooold miner haunts the mountain..."
    "What? Haha, nah, that's just Pete!"
    "Pete's DEAD?!"
    "NOPE! Pete's only *mostly* dead. There's a big difference."

  • @nolananderson4782
    @nolananderson4782 Před rokem +1

    I feel like this could be pretty easily rectified by the SSA issuing a letter to someone who had been falsely declared dead that says, "This person has been mistakenly listed as dead in the past, contact this phone number to verify"

  • @meeRock897
    @meeRock897 Před 2 lety +2

    The jokes were A1 in this episode

  • @nefariousalex1289
    @nefariousalex1289 Před 2 lety +7

    I’m never dying

  • @superkaj1001
    @superkaj1001 Před 2 lety +3

    “1-8 billion people a day” I guess we will all die then within one to 7 days

    • @matthewmcewen1
      @matthewmcewen1 Před 2 lety

      I cant believe i had to scroll this far to find someone talking about this. Cannot make sense of his sentence at all.

    • @gmansplit
      @gmansplit Před 7 měsíci

      @@matthewmcewen1 It's called a joke

    • @matthewmcewen1
      @matthewmcewen1 Před 7 měsíci

      @@gmansplit you have got to be kidding. i was saying i couldnt make sense of the video, and was surprised the original comment was the first comment talking about it. and yes, his joke was rather obvious

  • @creounity
    @creounity Před 2 lety

    The cellular traffic is so expensive in the US! Here in Moscow Russia we've got like 50 Gb (+lots of call minutes and SMS) at just USD 0.30 per day (USD 8.95 per 1 month).

  • @dougfowler1368
    @dougfowler1368 Před 2 lety

    I remember a MASH episode about this, they only find out because BJ is called to the phone to talk to Hawkeye's dad who wants to find out why it happened, all you can get out is "How? Why?" I thought it would be a problem mostly in wartime but I can see where manual entry can be a big problem.