La ascolto sul mio tangenziale telefunken nella versione di Helmut Walcha tutte le sere prima di dormire Graf ELIO MARIA FEDERICO JUNIOR TESSIORE di Germagnano Lanzo Po grosse maister. Von Belcanto e Kunst Gesang
And they didn't know how famous the organist and the works would become...Well-known and well-regarded in Bach's own lifetime meant being known to and respected by a few hundred people "in the industry" as it were, plus a certain percentage of the elite who had the leisure time to know and enjoy such things. Probably the vast percentage of the population of Europe had no earthly idea who he was, and didn't have time or education to be aware of any composers beyond a name they heard dropped, and which was as important to them as knowing the name of some finance officer of some company on the other side of the country is to me. No one had any idea that in 200 to 400 years Bach would be known and beloved to hundreds of millions of people around the world. There is no equating the definition of fame in Bach's era to the definition of the fame he has today.
Ton Koopman is a world-renowned interpreter and performer. Any one who ventures an opinion or criticism first better know how to play this piece as beautifully as he does. Secondly, he or she should be familiar with singing the chorale/hymn, and understand the text. The cantus firms (or melody), which is soloed out by a reed stop, is played here at a wonderfully appropriate tempo. The text suggests urgency of action which a slow or romantic tempo does not in any way support! This combination of instrument, location and performer is as good as any I've ever heard! Marvelous!
The organ played in this performance was built by Gottfrried Silbermann at Saint Mary Cathedral in Freiberg, Saxony. It is a 3 manuals and pedal organ fitted out with 44 stops. Andreas and Gottfired learnt joinery in their native Saxony. Then Andreas learnt keyboard instrument building with the harpsichord builder Ring in Strasburg, Alsace. He teached organ building to his brother. In 1702-1704, Andreas improved his craft following the french tradition with François Thierry in Paris and teached in return to his brother Gottfried. After a short time alliance, Andreas and Gottfied made a deal in which Andreas had the monopoly for organ building in Alsace and France while Gottfied had the same monopoly in Saxony and Germany.
@@erikhn9331 In the Silbermann's Organ the tone normal is one tone higher than 440 Hz because in the period baroque the frequence for tune organ be diferent. And Bach prefered that.
I love this piece of music. I have always considered it the 'gold standard' of contrapuntal writing, since it combines two completely different melodies - rhythmically different, characteristically different, tonally different and in every conventional way different - and manages to beautifully and successfully exploit the obvious tension between them while incorporating them into a more than satisfying whole. This is the first time I have heard it played on a solo instrument, and it is brilliantly executed. I guess Mr. Kooperman can walk and chew gum at the same time!
Being an organist myself, I DO find this to be a little too fast and static, but what a performance! His technique is divine! Would love to hear him play the famous F Major Toccata by Widor!
Koopman for me is undoubtedly the best interpreters of Baroque music (in this case of Bach). An ability to combine rigorous historicist inventiveness and novelty, particularly in ornamentation, phrasing and articulation of breath work. Moreover, for composers and musicians of the Baroque period, the improvisation was much more frequent than is practiced today in the interpretations. And Bach is a genius, by far my favorite composer!
Some thoughts for the discussants about the question of tempo in Ton´s interpretation: 1. We have no tempo information from the time Bach's! (It is only said that his basic- temperament was "choleric.") 2. You all know when Herr Mälzel created the metronome.... 3. The translation of Italian characters of the music ("Allegro", "Grave" etc.) into a number on the metronome, at a fixed tempo, is only an aid. „Allegro“ for ex. doesn´t mean „fast“. It means cheerful. etc... 4. (Not only) Bach is influenced by the following parameters: a) temperament (affect) of the piece, b) the possibilitys of the Instrument c) bow line, d) breath and heart pulse, e) acoustics of the room etc. But these outlined parameters are subjectivisms. But when the bow stroke is over, or breath for a word, there are relative responses for a tone length. 5. When you play Beethoven Sonatas, keep in mind that Beethoven did not have the modern Steinway. We only know that he wanted to repit sounds faster and influenced Erard in Paris to build a better repetitive mechanic.. It is probable that, trusting in "modern" editions and their metronome details, we tend to play Beethoven "too fast" (judging by the instruments Beethoven used). 6. Today we feel the music of Bach, Beethoven etc. with the habits of the sounds of our time (airplain f.e.) and also the musician creatings of today. Then we rate the categories "fast" and "slow". We do not know exactly how people felt in their time in which they lived. 7. The base pulse "Andante" („to walk“) was measured before the metronome was created by a step of a "healthy man". But whether he had long legs or small legs, we do not know. 8. Research: There is a regulation in the files of the Thomaskirche in Leipzig on the length of the cantata after the sermon ... but … 9. Interpretation Koopman: Music lives from their interpretation. Bach was a composer and interpreter. Interpreting - "inter" .... in the meantime ... We know Bach as a composer. In all his works he repeats phrases in such a way that it never gets boring. For this he uses the stylistic devices of rhetoric and affect. Trust Koopman! He plays with all these meanings! He plays! Summary: The discussion about tempo will always be characterized by subjectivisms. Beatles: "Life is very short, and there's no time for fussing and fighting, my friend. "
ton koopman always rushes. the guy is a neurotic spazz-case. this tempo is still fine for me though, but the endless ornamentation is annoying. this guy has zero chill. on the other hand, i bet bach was very chill.
Played on the "Große Silbermannorgel", built from 1710 to 1714 his biggest one own built by Johann Gottfried Silbermann...situated in the Dom St.Marien in Freiberg, Saxony in the Eastern Erzgebirge near Dresden...what an excellent and unique sound
Ich finde die Choralbearbeitung Wachet auf, ruft uns die Stimme von Johann Sebastian Bach immer wieder schön. Hat mir mein Musiklehrer am Freitagabend 04.12.2015 noch vorgespielt. Hierfür hat es ein Abo und Daumen hoch gegeben.
And the fact is that the best interpretations come through consummate, artistic knowledge of the music and of the composer. This isn't an aimless interpretation (like some people that I won't name), it's Baroque poetry incarnate through sound. The idea is creating new life, that life, and either way you look at it, this radiates endlessly from a master composer like Bach through his scores. The color is there for all of us to find, it's just that some have no awareness of it and prefer "safety".
Lovely! Suprising but very nice tempo! It's not too fast but joyful. This is a perfect example how you can create almost a new piece of the same piece with a new tempo. Well done!
An absolutely note and time-perfect piece, played by a mavellous Organist, on a superb piece of craftsmanship! This piece has impeccable, faultless timing - WELL DONE, Mr KOOPMAN - BRAVO! :-)
For any real musician, Bach's music is absolutely endless. Just like his mind was. Pardoning myself from period performance for a moment, I also like hearing Bach's music on the piano or a Cavaille-Coll organ, and for me at least it works beautifully. Because it is so intricately crafted, in a universal way. Karl Richter says in an interview on YT that if one isn't inspired with new ideas of how to play a piece, (that are inspired directly by the composer), you play it with a disdainful routine.
A strange kind of dying. When I was a child (when dinosaurs ruled the earth) it was almost impossible to hear Bach played as well as this. Record shops had a few recordings of Bach played on unsuitable organs by romantic organists & occasionally clinically performed on modern 'neo-classical' organs so that everything came off sounding like a piano roll.There has been such a revival. Look at CZcams! It is heaven compared to when I was young with my few disks on my stereo and occasional Radio 3.x
Simply nice! Beautiful registration. Organ and church are both amazing. This choral is in E flat major, but organ are transposed +2 semi-tones, so it's in F major. I like his articulation too. All in all, it's perfect.
It's not dying everywhere! I've yet to turn 20 and I have only begun to dive into classical music, starting with Bach, for the past 8 or 9 months. If I ever have children I will make sure they hear it as well.
I agree, I think this piece should be played slightly faster. It's such a movingly beautiful melody--these kinds of pieces have the ability to really materialize the Lord in all of His glory. I think this particular organ has a wonderful sound, and I personally love the interpretation. I understand, perhaps Bach meant it to run slightly slower... but this performance certainly gives this piece justice. I could listen to this forever.
Just gave my life to Christ Jesus recently. Listening to J.S. Bach's music is a ministry to my soul and true inspiration of my German Heritage. I am honored to both be saved and be a German :)
Through Jesus Christ, all your trials will be less burdensome, and your weaknesses will be made strength. He is the king of kings, the lord of lords, and the friend of friends. And he shall reign forever and ever.
Imagine going to church and hearing these compositions played by Bach himself as part of a Sunday service... .
I’d never leave
Only 1700's kids know
I would like to experience it
La ascolto sul mio tangenziale telefunken nella versione di Helmut Walcha tutte le sere prima di dormire Graf ELIO MARIA FEDERICO JUNIOR TESSIORE di Germagnano Lanzo Po grosse maister. Von Belcanto e Kunst Gesang
And they didn't know how famous the organist and the works would become...Well-known and well-regarded in Bach's own lifetime meant being known to and respected by a few hundred people "in the industry" as it were, plus a certain percentage of the elite who had the leisure time to know and enjoy such things.
Probably the vast percentage of the population of Europe had no earthly idea who he was, and didn't have time or education to be aware of any composers beyond a name they heard dropped, and which was as important to them as knowing the name of some finance officer of some company on the other side of the country is to me.
No one had any idea that in 200 to 400 years Bach would be known and beloved to hundreds of millions of people around the world.
There is no equating the definition of fame in Bach's era to the definition of the fame he has today.
This is one of my favorite pieces of all time, and by far my favorite of Bach's chorale preludes. Its beauty brings tears to my eyes.
Ton Koopman is a world-renowned interpreter and performer. Any one who ventures an opinion or criticism first better know how to play this piece as beautifully as he does. Secondly, he or she should be familiar with singing the chorale/hymn, and understand the text. The cantus firms (or melody), which is soloed out by a reed stop, is played here at a wonderfully appropriate tempo. The text suggests urgency of action which a slow or romantic tempo does not in any way support! This combination of instrument, location and performer is as good as any I've ever heard! Marvelous!
I said Which Bach
I said which our desr Johann
It's rubbish. Too fast. Sleepers wake is about building anticipation.
czcams.com/video/jwnnKEtAEAk/video.htmlsi=G7STAiNtG_0dLvnY
The organ played in this performance was built by Gottfrried Silbermann at Saint Mary Cathedral in Freiberg, Saxony. It is a 3 manuals and pedal organ fitted out with 44 stops. Andreas and Gottfired learnt joinery in their native Saxony. Then Andreas learnt keyboard instrument building with the harpsichord builder Ring in Strasburg, Alsace. He teached organ building to his brother. In 1702-1704, Andreas improved his craft following the french tradition with François Thierry in Paris and teached in return to his brother Gottfried. After a short time alliance, Andreas and Gottfied made a deal in which Andreas had the monopoly for organ building in Alsace and France while Gottfied had the same monopoly in Saxony and Germany.
The pitch is about one tone higher - was that normal to Silbermann?
@@erikhn9331 In the Silbermann's Organ the tone normal is one tone higher than 440 Hz because in the period baroque the frequence for tune organ be diferent. And Bach prefered that.
Danke!
@@ing.luisantoniocorzoramos4494 Thank You :-)
Good to know
I love this piece of music. I have always considered it the 'gold standard' of contrapuntal writing, since it combines two completely different melodies - rhythmically different, characteristically different, tonally different and in every conventional way different - and manages to beautifully and successfully exploit the obvious tension between them while incorporating them into a more than satisfying whole. This is the first time I have heard it played on a solo instrument, and it is brilliantly executed. I guess Mr. Kooperman can walk and chew gum at the same time!
Thank you Bach, thank you Germany for such a brilliant Komponisten not forgetting Handel and Beethoven, all from old Germany!
Being an organist myself, I DO find this to be a little too fast and static, but what a performance! His technique is divine! Would love to hear him play the famous F Major Toccata by Widor!
He makes my recording by Marie-Claire Alain seem boringly sedate. I think his tempo works beautifully.
I love the registration of this piece!
Koopman for me is undoubtedly the best interpreters of Baroque music (in this case of Bach). An ability to combine rigorous historicist inventiveness and novelty, particularly in ornamentation, phrasing and articulation of breath work. Moreover, for composers and musicians of the Baroque period, the improvisation was much more frequent than is practiced today in the interpretations.
And Bach is a genius, by far my favorite composer!
Some thoughts for the discussants about the question of tempo in Ton´s interpretation:
1. We have no tempo information from the time Bach's! (It is only said that his basic- temperament was "choleric.")
2. You all know when Herr Mälzel created the metronome....
3. The translation of Italian characters of the music ("Allegro", "Grave" etc.) into a number on the metronome, at a fixed tempo, is only an aid. „Allegro“ for ex. doesn´t mean „fast“. It means cheerful. etc...
4. (Not only) Bach is influenced by the following parameters: a) temperament (affect) of the piece, b) the possibilitys of the Instrument c) bow line, d) breath and heart pulse, e) acoustics of the room etc. But these outlined parameters are subjectivisms. But when the bow stroke is over, or breath for a word, there are relative responses for a tone length.
5. When you play Beethoven Sonatas, keep in mind that Beethoven did not have the modern Steinway. We only know that he wanted to repit sounds faster and influenced Erard in Paris to build a better repetitive mechanic.. It is probable that, trusting in "modern" editions and their metronome details, we tend to play Beethoven "too fast" (judging by the instruments Beethoven used).
6. Today we feel the music of Bach, Beethoven etc. with the habits of the sounds of our time (airplain f.e.) and also the musician creatings of today. Then we rate the categories "fast" and "slow". We do not know exactly how people felt in their time in which they lived.
7. The base pulse "Andante" („to walk“) was measured before the metronome was created by a step of a "healthy man". But whether he had long legs or small legs, we do not know.
8. Research: There is a regulation in the files of the Thomaskirche in Leipzig on the length of the cantata after the sermon ... but …
9. Interpretation Koopman:
Music lives from their interpretation.
Bach was a composer and interpreter.
Interpreting - "inter" .... in the meantime ...
We know Bach as a composer. In all his works he repeats phrases in such a way that it never gets boring. For this he uses the stylistic devices of rhetoric and affect.
Trust Koopman! He plays with all these meanings! He plays!
Summary: The discussion about tempo will always be characterized by subjectivisms.
Beatles: "Life is very short, and there's no time for fussing and fighting, my friend. "
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ton koopman always rushes. the guy is a neurotic spazz-case. this tempo is still fine for me though, but the endless ornamentation is annoying. this guy has zero chill. on the other hand, i bet bach was very chill.
10: Chill out and just enjoy it instead of over-analyzing it like a wanker
Dangggg a real musicologist!
This is a choral.. it would have been sung. Bach wouldn't have played this so fast that people wouldn't have been able to sing it.
Main voice is perfect; it is clear enough to be distinguished as a voice but doesn't overpower the background.
Played on the "Große Silbermannorgel", built from 1710 to 1714 his biggest one own built by Johann Gottfried Silbermann...situated in the Dom St.Marien in Freiberg, Saxony in the Eastern Erzgebirge near Dresden...what an excellent and unique sound
Da geht einem das Herz auf...wenn auch für mich ne Idee zu schnell :-D
Eine der schönsten Orgeln in Deutschland und perfekt für solche Meisterwerke
Koopman is amazing! One of the best at playing the great Bach!!
Ton Koopman, GENIAL. Una interpretación impecable. Gracias.
Geniale Musik, die beiden Stimmen, die sich umspielen und einen Hörgenuss erschaffen.
Ich finde die Choralbearbeitung Wachet auf, ruft uns die Stimme von Johann Sebastian Bach immer wieder schön.
Hat mir mein Musiklehrer am Freitagabend 04.12.2015 noch vorgespielt.
Hierfür hat es ein Abo und Daumen hoch gegeben.
Amazing, really. Ton Koopman is one of the best organ players of our years. Great.
Bach is the music of God this is my favrite choral Prelude thanks for interpreting it so well I think I want it at my weeding
バッハの数あるカンタータの中で一番好きな曲です。この曲を聴くといつも身の引き締まる思いがします。
SoliDeoGloria,
Thanks for this exquisite piece from Ton played in a very nice Church setting.
And the fact is that the best interpretations come through consummate, artistic knowledge of the music and of the composer. This isn't an aimless interpretation (like some people that I won't name), it's Baroque poetry incarnate through sound. The idea is creating new life, that life, and either way you look at it, this radiates endlessly from a master composer like Bach through his scores. The color is there for all of us to find, it's just that some have no awareness of it and prefer "safety".
Meravigliosa esecuzione in aggiunta ad un organo,un Tempo di esecuzione, una chiesa ed una atmosfera paradisiaca! complimentoni
Lovely! Suprising but very nice tempo! It's not too fast but joyful. This is a perfect example how you can create almost a new piece of the same piece with a new tempo. Well done!
Amo demais esta música! Ton Koopman é magnífico!
amazing performance! filled with vitality and a sense of movement from Bach's rich harmonies.
Immortal, sweet, celestial and classy, - some of the best of Germany.
I have loved this since I was a little child at Sunday Mass. Thank you Glen Armstrong 🙏
Beautiful Advent selection.I like it all through the Christmas period to Lent..
この曲聴くと凄く癒される♪
寝る前とかに聴くと自分はかなりリラックスできる癒し曲♪
What a beautiful looking console. The organ sounds amazing
The tempo works for me. Beautifully played.
Brano perfetto...superlativa l'esecuzione...che dire...J.S.Bach uber alles!!!!!!
one of my all time favourites
A truly wonderful performance.
great performance, wonderful contrast between the 3 voices, perfect tempo!
Wunderschön!
Uma das melodias mais "soft" de Bach, onde a alegria transborda com profundo sacramento e ufania! Maravilhosa!
mit den verzierungen und dem tempo meiner meinung nach die schönste version hier auf yt... schön👍
Sounds absolutely divine with the headphones on, I feel happy to be both a Lutheran and a lover of Bach.
Ton Koopman: Wonderful organist and all-round musician!
This man is a superb organist!
Sehr Schön danke Herr Koopman es ist mein lieblings Bach orgelwerk.
Impresionante!! hermoso y muy bien interpretado es admirable la independencia de
movimientos incluso con la pedalera de bajos. Felicitaciones!
An absolutely note and time-perfect piece, played by a mavellous Organist, on a superb piece of craftsmanship! This piece has impeccable, faultless timing - WELL DONE, Mr KOOPMAN - BRAVO! :-)
I love this music especially now, at Christmas time...
このテンポすごくいいよね
Mr.Koopman's wonderfuuuul!!!!!!
For any real musician, Bach's music is absolutely endless. Just like his mind was. Pardoning myself from period performance for a moment, I also like hearing Bach's music on the piano or a Cavaille-Coll organ, and for me at least it works beautifully. Because it is so intricately crafted, in a universal way. Karl Richter says in an interview on YT that if one isn't inspired with new ideas of how to play a piece, (that are inspired directly by the composer), you play it with a disdainful routine.
Se eleva el el espíritu al escuchar a grandes maestros al órgano tubular..
Wonderful! Thanks!!!
fantastické, nádherné...
wonderful voices
che classe..che arte...meraviglioso!
Grazie Ton sono in paradiso.......
how can you not like this? its a wonderful song and reminds me of something...i've been knowing it for years... o.o
Awesome...Bach forever and ever..
Beautifull Song!!
I just shed a tear of joy....
aa still listing it like every week 2 times .. and evertime I lisitng it .. I got tears .. this is SOO beautifull
still listening?
@@paulfrench2306 yes I do still haha. and play piano still too !
Bravo bravissimo. .soli de o gloria
Bro pulled out all the stops on this one. 🔥
So good... Reminds me of childhood somehow.
A strange kind of dying. When I was a child (when dinosaurs ruled the earth) it was almost impossible to hear Bach played as well as this. Record shops had a few recordings of Bach played on unsuitable organs by romantic organists & occasionally clinically performed on modern 'neo-classical' organs so that everything came off sounding like a piano roll.There has been such a revival. Look at CZcams! It is heaven compared to when I was young with my few disks on my stereo and occasional Radio 3.x
Simply nice! Beautiful registration. Organ and church are both amazing. This choral is in E flat major, but organ are transposed +2 semi-tones, so it's in F major. I like his articulation too. All in all, it's perfect.
Fast but great. Sometimes we have to add a modern touch and breath some life into these gems.
It's not dying everywhere! I've yet to turn 20 and I have only begun to dive into classical music, starting with Bach, for the past 8 or 9 months. If I ever have children I will make sure they hear it as well.
lol have you had children yet
sehr gut gespielt ,besonders die linke Hand ,das erst einmal hinzubekommen zeigt großes können des Organisten aus schöne grüße aus Berlin
Wow listen to those Trumpets! This is great!
Ton Koopman is a Master!
Muito bom e bonita interpretação.
The tempo is perfect.
I like this music.
Schöne Vorführung! Der alte Meister würde sich freuhen wie ich!
das sind sehr schöne nachrichten. sowas hör ich echt gerne! schönen tag ihnen noch 😝
Muito bom . e bonita interpretação.
amazing
The perfect music for srewing a plate down.
this man can do three things at once, without making even the tiniest mistake
daniel coffey its more than three actually
I heard a mistake at 0:33
@@cristopheridlc Really? What mistake? To me it sounds correct.
@@cristopheridlc I can hear no mistake at 0:33.
@@Timrath actually i think it was just the video editing the sound got cutoff for a split second
just perfect!!!
It is very great! I want to be a piano.
slow and pronounced .... fast and clear .... the possibilities are even infinite ... and I must say: most of them are fantastic .... even this ... :-)
I agree, I think this piece should be played slightly faster. It's such a movingly beautiful melody--these kinds of pieces have the ability to really materialize the Lord in all of His glory. I think this particular organ has a wonderful sound, and I personally love the interpretation. I understand, perhaps Bach meant it to run slightly slower... but this performance certainly gives this piece justice. I could listen to this forever.
Bravo
Splendido clavicembalo
Un Grand pour la musique de JS BACH!
Amaaaazing!!
Beautiful
The cantata this came from is also awesome.
Well played!
c'est tres beau 💗
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Just gave my life to Christ Jesus recently. Listening to J.S. Bach's music is a ministry to my soul and true inspiration of my German Heritage. I am honored to both be saved and be a German :)
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Through Jesus Christ, all your trials will be less burdensome, and your weaknesses will be made strength. He is the king of kings, the lord of lords, and the friend of friends. And he shall reign forever and ever.
German brass Johann Sebastian bach
Germanic heritage is also a fairytale xd
Just sold my soul to the dark lord Satan recently, listening to this really calms me down when I get urges to kill.
Excelente
WUNDERSCHÖN.....
Because the words say:
"Zion hears the watchmen sing; her heart springs in joy; she awakens and rises in haste; ..."
superb version , excellent timing and no faults like many others. Ton Koopman wins
I've seen this keyboard somewhere, before. nice playing
Te tempo may be faster but I like it this way too. It is as good as slower - just brings other thoughts.
Ton koopman hat sehr gut gespielen. ;)
Erfrischend!
e' un pò veloce ma sempre precisissimo,grande Tom !!
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