If you are referring to the battle at Winterfell: You are not expected to see everything because its suppose to add to the terror and tactics and/or walls don't matter if the opposing numbers are incomprehensible. But fair to say, that battle has other problems that are not addressed.
@@godsBane266 In what world do tactics and walls not matter when the opponent's army vastly outnumbers your own. Strategy and tactics are the only way to overcome such a foe. Well, that, and an assassin with cool dagger.
Many leaders, upon seeing their ships, friends, and soldiers, perish in a massive explosion, may have wavered, stuttered, or shown fear . Stannis stood tall and confident that he would prevail, so instead of being disheartened his troops rallied.
That scene is supposed to show how he's unfit to rule due to his inability to stir the hearts of men (his speeches suck) or care for their lives. But sure, go ahead and pretend he's great with his flaming sword.
It showed that he is calm in a crisis and that his bannermen respect him for that, but it also showed that he's not very good at giving speeches and he knows it. Very good characterisation.
Tbh he should've been involved in scripting of the later season 7 and 8. Especially 8. It became so shitty. Aahhhh coronavirus doesn't trigger me as much as season 8 did
Fun fact: the Pyromancer is played by Roy Dotrice (Leopold Mozart: Amadeus (1984)). Dotrice is the narrator for A Song of Ice and Fire books, and as such has played _every character in Game of Thrones_ (except those that were created for the TV series). This was - at the time - a world record. Dotrice was originally meant to play Grand Maester Pycelle, but health problems prevented him from doing so. He passed away in 2017.
@@zub41r75 in books stannis is a unmovable rock of a man he doesnt get affection or love from his subjects only fear he also wants everyone to act right and everything is unforgiveable to him that kind of person is nit suited to be a king.
@@theeyepatch1219 I think he is finding it hard to trust people and who can blame him but to say he is an unmovable rock is wrong he has taken advice many times and I think he will take more advice in future from others he likes
Back when bronn was useful, tyrion was smart, dialogues were badass, commanders used to know the tactics in a battle and GoT production could afford some lights. What fine days those were!
@@MonoIsSuperior no sir, season 6 was one of the best season of got.It was little bit critical so everybody can not understand it..Season 7 was also good.But Season 8 is nothing but shit.
@@jordanbelfort4103 It's a book character named Ser Justin Massey, and he is actually quite the pansy. Stannis values Massey's combat contributions so little that he uses the knight as a page and to carry messages. It's perfect casting.
It's interesting to note everyone's reactions. Tyrion and Bronn seem disgusted about what they've done, but they knew it needed to be done. The Hound is scared shitless and Joffrey has just discovered a new to torture people with.
@@Onigirli idk, to me it looked more like "Holy fuck, what the hell did I just get in on?" Not necessarily horrified, but more just plain shocked by the scale of it. He thought he had some sense of what they were doing - remember how cynical he was about the pyromancer's lofty claims? - and then he very suddenly understood that he had no idea. Even Tyrion didn't fully understand until he _saw_ it.
Tyrion: "Oh Gods what have I done" The Hound: "Oh Gods what have you done" The Pyromancer: "Hee Hee, look what I've done!" Joffrey: "Do it again! Do it again!"
@@_xxdillydillyxx1_6 people like you caused him to retire from acting, threatening him like that. You guys gotta figure out Characters from the Actors. You take these shows way to seriously.
I had a chilling realization about the wildfire and that it was Cersei who commissioned it initially. Remember how they were all waiting in Baelor's Sept during the battle and that Cersei was insistent that people remain? I thought she had been planning on poisoning the guests or having the soldiers kill them, but no...even back then in S2, she had Baelor's Sept set up to blow on her word.
The look on everyone’s faces after the wildfire explosion totally reveals their character. Bronn, the Hound and Tyrion are appropriately horrified or astounded. The pyromancer and Joffrey are smiling like cowardly sadists
In between it all men burning and screaming to death being swallowed by the black water absolutely love how Tyrion obviously didn’t want to kill so many people he still has to remember that given the chance they would kill him first
+Matt Williams Of course he's pleased with himself. Can you imagine how he would be rewarded for providing the hand with the means to destroy a large percentage of Stannis' navy without a single lost soldier, and consequently keep Joffrey on the throne?
@@yossarian00seasons 5 and 6 were great not as good as the first four seasons but they had cool moments like battle of the bastards dany riding drogon for the first time s7 was not good and season 8 was horrible it’s a shame they should’ve make got ten season make the king knight 2 seasons and the knight king taking KL and the iron throne that would’ve been cool af and if they’re going the mad queen road build it up properly s10 could be about the war with Cersei a siege on KL Cersei doing tricks with wildfire on Daenerys army during the siege dany gets pissed and kill Cersei and the last 3 episode would be about Sansa rebellion and war with the north eventually Jon chooses his sisters or something that would have been so much better I hope they revive her in the snow sequel
It's a neat little visual detail to see Jeoffrey "Baratheon" in red Lannister armor. Story wise, this can be explained away by the need for an army to easily tell friend from foe, but it's also a visual nod to the fact that Jeoffrey is not a Baratheon but 100 percent Lannister.
Well from King Robert's death onwards the entire royal family basically drops the Baratheon heraldry. Joffery has the lion and the stag on his sigil and everything else is Lannister themed.
Yes right, in episode of fight versus white walkers, i can't watch a damm thing ,it was so dark, i thought i was the only one who cannot watch anything
When anyone sees that much fire no one gets inspired when a commanders asks you to go and attack But WHEN HE GOES FIRST AND LEAD THE ATTACK That is another story
piyush garg at some point in season 1 or 2 Edmure Tully tries to deed his fathers (I think) funeral by setting the vessel on which his dads dead body is placed ablaze, by shooting flaming arrows at it. As dumb as he is,he misses all the shots so some other dude does it for of him.
''There is no creature on this Earth half so terrifying as a truly just man.'' It captivates Stannis. The way he nods his head when the knight says ''Hundreds will die.'', shows that it truly doesn't matter to him how many will die so long as justice has been served.
Love the Hound's reaction. As a man who's been burned and knows that pain, watching hundreds if not thousands of other men simultaneously go up in flames and experience that same pain -without any warning - it seems like he might be connecting Tyrion the Dwarf to Gregor the Mountain in his mind, in this moment; and that this might be the first wave that rocks the boat in this battle, that makes him consider leaving the Lannisters to their fate.
Fun Fact: the tactic that Tyrion used with the ''fireship'' is a real historical naval battle tactic. They used to take ships,fill them up with various flammable materials like tar,oil,gunpowder etc. and use them as ''floating bombs'' against enemy ships. The Dutch used these ''fireships' against the Spanish Armada,in the 16th century,during their war of independence to great effect and the Greeks perfected this tactic during the greek war of indepence of 1821,against the Osmanic fleet. A greek naval commander,by the name Constantin Kanaris,even managed to burn the Osmanic fleet's flagship,outside of the island of Chios,a huge Man of War battleship with a ''fireship''. Also,the ''wildfire'' is inspired by the ''greek fire'' of the Byzantine Empire,a medievil incidiary weapon similar to napalm or white phosphorus,that couldn't be extinguished with water and used extensively in naval battles by the Byzantines. His exact chemical formula is still today unknown,because the Byzantines kept it as a state secret.
Can you talk to Dany? She needs to get schooled on these prior battles and military tactics...she is currently getting her ass handed to her (-2 Dragons). Sir Devros survived this battle, better ask him for advice. Has Tyrion told her about wildfire? Cersi surely will use it as a weapon in the days to come.
Also, the 'wildfire' itself is based upon Greek fire, which was supposedly used like giant flamethrowers, only the fire would even burn on contact with water and not die out. I say supposedly, because the recipe for Greek fire was lost long ago. Nobody knows how it was created, but it's possibly very similar to napalm. Apparently it was fucking devastating on the battlefield.
I almost would have preferred the Battle of Winterfell to be like the Battle of Oxcross, back when they didn't have the budget for a battle. Just time skip to the end of the battle and Arya wiping Night King blood or ice chips or whatever he has, off her sword.
When you are versing mindless hordes of zombies there are no tactics or logic that will work. The dothraki probs shouldn't have charged headlong but otherwise it was pretty standard military tactics for that level of fighting and tech
Love how these early series were written. Even in a chaotic battle scene, the show finds an opportunity to teach us about the main characters using their reactions to the wildfire: Bronn and the Hound, tough soldiers are nonetheless shaken by the force they’ve unleashed, revealing a humanity we hadn’t really seen in them yet. Joff and the pyromancer are sadists, excited by all the horror. And empathetic Tyrion is more interested and disturbed by the reactions of those around him.
Very good observations ! ... I might be willing to cut the pyromancer some slack as ....we know nothing about him as a rounded-character ....and presumably his skill and knowledge has been used to protect the city against what they might percieve as a murderous and savage attack : the craftsman has seen his tools utilised effectively .....Joff of course is beyond any such "slack" ....
@@FatihAegon well I mean he did kill more than 5 people which means he would be on a "Killstreak" even with the environmental part. But even then he was directly involved in killing them because of the arrow
@@sheldon-cooper no if you shoot any environmental things it will count as a environmental kill like a rope holding something heavy if you shoot the rope and heavy thing drops and kills somebody it will count as a environmental kill same thing counts if you shoot something incendineary on water
This was one of the most painful scenes in the show. WHY did stannis have to lose? Probably the second greatest tragedy of the show (following season 8).
True but remember that if Stannis had won, Tyrion would have been executed along with Varys and Littlefinger, so we would have lost some great characters.
The one thing I've always hated about this scene is that it paints Davos in a bad light. In the books, Davos wasn't in charge of this naval engagement. He had no choice but to follow Stannis' current admiral, and Davos mentions that he has serious reservations about their plan. He wanted to leave the fleet out at sea and scout the blackwater. He also wanted the Lyseni pirate Sallador to take a more direct part in the battle, as Sallador's men had more experience as sailors and fighters. Unfortunately for Stannis and his army, Davos was treated as nothing more than an up-jumped old woman who had no taste for battle.
@Anjelica Snorcket not enough budget( battle of Oxcross would've been great to see) they were saving it for Blackwater episode. I also wanted battle of the whispering wood and green fork in s1 but again budget reasons.
@@manvirshergill1739 hopefully someone will do an animated show for game of thrones wiht competent writers and which follows the books properly (hopefully with the same badass animation as castlevania)
pyromancer: watches the explosion and loves it sandor: watches the explosion but is horrified joffrey: misses the explosion but loves the aftermath tyrion: missed the explosion and is horrified by the aftermath says a lot about their respective characters to be honest...
@@gagewileman9434 I think the Hound was terrified for both reasons - his phobia and the sheer destruction. Although he is a "by any means necessary" guy, he still has some principles and I think one of those is along the lines of: In battle, men should die by the sword, swiftly, not tortured by magic.
Joffrey: _let's Tyrion plan everything about the defense, doesn't attend a single meeting about it and knows absolutely nothing aside from 'uhh stand on the walls I guess', giving Tyrion complete control and seemingly trusting his judgement_ Also Joffrey: wHeRe aRE tHe sHiPS
@@erickariuki6842Pretty sure it was Cersei, Littlefinger doesn't have that kind of authority, nor is he foolish enough to use Mandon Moore as his agent
0:07 Despite being a psychotic boyking, he did have a few abilities...he was amazingly accurate with a crossbow, and he had very sharp eyes...he was the first to spot the fleet, out of all those searching for it from atop the walls.
@@TV-ge3uj Maybe… but it seems he was a sociopath from the start , Cersei ‘s education probably dumbed him down . If she ignored him he may have been a competent sociopath.
I won't lie, what really gave me chills the first time I saw this wasn't the explosion or screaming that followed; it was the look on Stannis' face right before he replied "thousands."
Well, I don't mind if stannis soldiers "having fun" with cersei while sacking the keep. But it means sansa will be dead in that moment. Kinda had split feeling about this
Several things I LOVE in this scene 1. Sandor's reactions to the fire 2. The break in the voice of Stannis's officer when he says "But the wild~fire..." 3. "Thousands" (that line I've watched over and over and I never tire of it) 4. Stannis is the first down the ladder. This scene catapulted Stannis up my list of the most interesting character's in the series.
He had his fans, despite his total lack of charm, his murder of his brother by blood magic and his fondness for burning "heretics", but burning your own sweet little daughter at the stake is crossing the line. Actually, a Baratheon with Stannis/ Robert's warrior skills, Stannis' sense of duty and Renly's charm would have made a great king.
He was a fool not to retreat when he knew he didn't have a chance of winning against the Boltons. Basically he committed suicide and took his remaining troops with him.
@@jamie_d0g978 Bad guys have the worst plot armour in this show and always have. Always hated people claiming this is a show where anything can happen to anyone, when Bolton had all the magic powers in the world to keep living and winning whilst he was fulfilling the role of "series antagonist". Same with Cersei.
@Jamie_ D0G it is his fault he kept listening to that crazy bish. He lost half his army for burning his daughter alive and he killed his own brother. He deserved to lose.
I remember watching this scene for the first time right after it came out. It was amazing. Nowdays we take these grand battle scenes on TV for granted but at the time this was a spectacle. And combined with those rich characters, dialogues and storylines... What a great show this was!
I love how Tyrion's armour incorporates a bit of book lore: the symbol of the Hand of the King is a golden chain of office of hands linking together. It's emblazoned on Tyrion's breastplate. In the show, they just use a pin with a single hand on it instead.
Remember when Stannis was actually a powerful character with the potential to unite all the kingdoms. What a disservice they did to the man who was supposed to be the most accomplished General in Westeros
Joffrey was such a good King, he spotted the ships first and then when he was needed elsewhere, he did not hesitate to trust his soldiers to do all the fighting for him
I think the best part for me was the look on the old pyromancer's face as the warm wind from the explosion rushed over his face. I'm not sure if it was a look of satisfaction, or disbelief but it was priceless. ❤😆
@@michaeldaley4777 Greek Fire was the historical version of a WMD Dragons are the fantastical. Neither are something I'd like to get on the wrong side of.
That wide shot on 3:05 is great. Great shot on showing the vast scale of chaos and damage from the wildfire. Love how it shows that the old guy and Joffrey are smiling like idiots while Tyrion and the hound look on with horror.
I appreciate that they make the effort to show the wildfire touching off regular fires, and repeatedly show wildfire and regular fire in the same frame instead of just slapping a filter on all of it.
When Stannis says that Tyrion can only play his “little trick” once, there’s really no way he could have known there weren’t more wildfire boats coming.
To be fair, no other wildfire ships would have been able to cross the burning wreck of Stannis’s ships. By the time Stannis got close enough to the shore, it would have been too close to light any wildfire without risk of burning the city.
I loved Bron's expression, not once did he ever show fear, But here he was legit terrorified that he touched off the literal equiv for the show of a Nuke
PinkGuy VEVO No it was dumb. They took it too far. I tried turning up the brightness on my tv, adjusting settings, turning off all the lights in the room and it didn’t make a difference. I couldn’t see what was going on in many scenes. I gotta tell you, there’s nothing less intense than staring at a blank screen.
Season 2, preparing for a single attack on a single place for a whole season and then delivering on that attack. Versus preparing for a war on the world for 7 seasons and then failing.
Why don't we get these kind of battle ideas for the battle of winterfell instead of sending dothraki armies to get slaughtered. Old tyrion was probably the best strategist in the 7 kingdoms.
Because Battle of Blackwater Bay was written by G.R.R Martin and not incopetent creators of the show. By the way even Blackwater Bay was slightliy simplified in the show.
If not for Tyrion Stannis would have been in full control of King's Landing by the time Twying and the Tyrells arrived. And if not for Tyrion's mountain clans killing Stannis's scouts, they wouldn't even have been able to surprise Stannis.
About 3:32 is very telling. Even though the plan worked, you can see Clegane and Tyrion aren't enjoying it, where as Joffrey and the pyromancer are both psychos and loving it.
Hey this is at night but I can see everything! And theres millitary tactics and theyre using the castle to their advantage... this is weird
He must of had his TV adjusted to the right setting.
and heroes in both sides
If you are referring to the battle at Winterfell: You are not expected to see everything because its suppose to add to the terror and tactics and/or walls don't matter if the opposing numbers are incomprehensible. But fair to say, that battle has other problems that are not addressed.
meta comment
@@godsBane266 In what world do tactics and walls not matter when the opponent's army vastly outnumbers your own. Strategy and tactics are the only way to overcome such a foe.
Well, that, and an assassin with cool dagger.
If this was s8 Tyrion would have ordered everyone to stand outside of the walls and swim to the boats
😂 this comment deserves way more love
"Go hit them. Like, on their boats. They won't expect that. Varys doesn't have a cock, by the way."
Battle plan if this was s8- Run straight at the Enemy try not to die
In the hands of s8 script, he would have won anyway
"Stannis, I know you're not a monster 😩😩"
"Imagine a king who fights his own battles... wouldn't that be a sight?" - Achilles
And stannis did
I looove that movie
Robb stark
@@michaelst0061 just realized that Robb was like for Robert.
Achilles would love people like Jon Snow, Robb Stark, Robert and Stannis baratheon. Im sure there are others but that's all I can think of right now.
“Come with me and take the city” It took Stannis 7 words to completely undo the psychological damage Tyrion inflicted on his army. What a badass.
made me wanna fight too lol
@@Jacepayne cringe
Many leaders, upon seeing their ships, friends, and soldiers, perish in a massive explosion, may have wavered, stuttered, or shown fear . Stannis stood tall and confident that he would prevail, so instead of being disheartened his troops rallied.
That scene is supposed to show how he's unfit to rule due to his inability to stir the hearts of men (his speeches suck) or care for their lives.
But sure, go ahead and pretend he's great with his flaming sword.
It showed that he is calm in a crisis and that his bannermen respect him for that, but it also showed that he's not very good at giving speeches and he knows it. Very good characterisation.
If it was Edmure shooting the arrow Stannis would’ve won
At least until the blackfish stepped in.
If it was Sir Arthur Dayne he would’ve shit the arrow kill all of Stainni’s men then the wild fire would have gone off
Srithor it was a meme because Edmure couldn’t aim
If it was Robin Arryn, Night King would've won
WE NEED MUNEH DUTCH
A friendly reminder that this battle/episode was written by George RR Martin.
It shows honestly
H B nobody can outdo George
@@titoiswack3524 apart from the man he was inspired by, J.R.R Tolkien may he rest in peace
Tbh he should've been involved in scripting of the later season 7 and 8. Especially 8. It became so shitty. Aahhhh coronavirus doesn't trigger me as much as season 8 did
moin khan s7 was decent. S8 other hand needed him desperately
That moment when Tyrion realizes two things: 1. Joffrey is erect and 2. It's the screams of the men that is exciting him, not the fire.
Holy fuck 🤮🤣
Ewww....
😂😂😂😭😭
Actually that's quite befitting of his character, seeing what he does do with a crossbow, at short range, later on ...
I think its also him realizing what the mad king had in store for king's landing (when he looks at the pyromancer)
Fun fact: the Pyromancer is played by Roy Dotrice (Leopold Mozart: Amadeus (1984)). Dotrice is the narrator for A Song of Ice and Fire books, and as such has played _every character in Game of Thrones_ (except those that were created for the TV series). This was - at the time - a world record.
Dotrice was originally meant to play Grand Maester Pycelle, but health problems prevented him from doing so. He passed away in 2017.
That actually is a fun fact. I listened to the audio book for Game of Thrones and had no idea.
this comment was a rollercoaster of emotions
Damn that was amazing.
Even the female voices? Lame
Amadeus is the greatest movie ever made
4:09 "The dwarf has played his little trick"
Stannis knows well that only Tyrion would be smart enough to play that trick.
And that voice crack afterwards 😂
Stannis was so smart and strong why did they ruin him smh. I hope he lives in the books he deserves much more
Imagine if Stannis won in the books, that I still have to read hahaha
@@zub41r75 in books stannis is a unmovable rock of a man he doesnt get affection or love from his subjects only fear he also wants everyone to act right and everything is unforgiveable to him that kind of person is nit suited to be a king.
@@theeyepatch1219 I think he is finding it hard to trust people and who can blame him but to say he is an unmovable rock is wrong he has taken advice many times and I think he will take more advice in future from others he likes
Back when bronn was useful, tyrion was smart, dialogues were badass, commanders used to know the tactics in a battle and GoT production could afford some lights. What fine days those were!
It still got the books to guide them. Now?
@@adammacleod925 been bad for 3 seasons, son.
@@MonoIsSuperior no sir, season 6 was one of the best season of got.It was little bit critical so everybody can not understand it..Season 7 was also good.But Season 8 is nothing but shit.
Adam MacLeod Wake up you drone. It has been declining for several seasons now.
Tulkas Season 5 was dull, season 6 was decent, despite its many flaws, season 7 was painfully mediocre. Season 8 is fucking sludge.
4:11
Stanis: "The Dwarf has played his little trick"
Soldier: "The Wildf *i* re"
That voice crack is perfect, whether it was intentional or accidental.
@@thecoton6152 I think intentional, it should show the fear in his voice. even the side characters knows how to act I love it
@@jordanbelfort4103 It's a book character named Ser Justin Massey, and he is actually quite the pansy. Stannis values Massey's combat contributions so little that he uses the knight as a page and to carry messages. It's perfect casting.
It's interesting to note everyone's reactions. Tyrion and Bronn seem disgusted about what they've done, but they knew it needed to be done. The Hound is scared shitless and Joffrey has just discovered a new to torture people with.
Bronn, disgust? He seemed in awe
A new to torture people with. Yes, indubitably.
@@Onigirli idk, to me it looked more like "Holy fuck, what the hell did I just get in on?"
Not necessarily horrified, but more just plain shocked by the scale of it. He thought he had some sense of what they were doing - remember how cynical he was about the pyromancer's lofty claims? - and then he very suddenly understood that he had no idea. Even Tyrion didn't fully understand until he _saw_ it.
@@Onigirli How are people this dense? 🤔
And the pyro is smiling like “teehee i told you wildfire is epic” 😂
Tyrion: "Oh Gods what have I done"
The Hound: "Oh Gods what have you done"
The Pyromancer: "Hee Hee, look what I've done!"
Joffrey: "Do it again! Do it again!"
Jeoffry: “I just jizzed my self
@@vexjaeger4314 One of the many, many reasons I reread his death and later rewatched it.
the best one is bronn face after the explosion, i bet he was thinking something like: "fock mate, those jars weren't full of pig shit after all"
@@magnezon1 right Oh early bronn was so good pre season 7 watering down
Bronn: Oh shit i was wrong..
The kid that played Joffrey truly is an amazing actor
The Guy well it’s the fact that people hated him so much that proves that. If your a villain and can get people to hate you you must be a good actor
I would ral3 his arse
@@_xxdillydillyxx1_6 people like you caused him to retire from acting, threatening him like that. You guys gotta figure out Characters from the Actors. You take these shows way to seriously.
_ XxDillyDillyxX1 _ come back to reality.
@@WheelJack-14 He's back in business!
King's Landing would have likely burned to the ground by the misuse of wildfire if Tyrion wasn't there.
Yeah then D&D wouldn’t have been able to f*** up season 8. Err, well, life uh... life finds a way.
C'est toi qui me Jamie Lannister
I had a chilling realization about the wildfire and that it was Cersei who commissioned it initially. Remember how they were all waiting in Baelor's Sept during the battle and that Cersei was insistent that people remain? I thought she had been planning on poisoning the guests or having the soldiers kill them, but no...even back then in S2, she had Baelor's Sept set up to blow on her word.
The look on everyone’s faces after the wildfire explosion totally reveals their character. Bronn, the Hound and Tyrion are appropriately horrified or astounded. The pyromancer and Joffrey are smiling like cowardly sadists
Let's give the pyromamcer some credit, the stuff is like his life's work. Just typical mad scientist stuff, but not so much malice or cowardice.
In between it all men burning and screaming to death being swallowed by the black water absolutely love how Tyrion obviously didn’t want to kill so many people he still has to remember that given the chance they would kill him first
I think the pyromancer is simply happy to see the fire not particularly by the people dying to it..
Imagine working all your life to prepare something, and you only see it work once (or like 5 times)
The old pyromancer seemed pleased with himself.
+Matt Williams He must have been waiting for a very long time.
+Matt Williams Of course he's pleased with himself. Can you imagine how he would be rewarded for providing the hand with the means to destroy a large percentage of Stannis' navy without a single lost soldier, and consequently keep Joffrey on the throne?
Giggle :D
Matt Williams As long as he gets to use the wildfire hes happy. I doubt cares what for
The old pyromancer is actually played by the narrator of the ASOIAF audio books!
“But sire, hundreds will die”
“Thousands”
Stannis is the worst enemy that you can encounter, the sheer determination is frightening
The next best thing to a good friend is a good enemy.
Stannis the GODDAMN Mannis
@@Zieg_Games I always think of Dennis the Mennis
He was desperate
Idiotic leader in the shows
Man, this TV show was great. Shame it has ended abruptly and we never got to see the ending seasons.
Yes, what a shame we never saw past season 4...
Seasons 5,6,7 were leaked a couple years back now I’m hearing there’s supposedly an 8th🙃
@@Mc_nice It's been debunked as fan fiction
@@yossarian00seasons 5 and 6 were great not as good as the first four seasons but they had cool moments like battle of the bastards dany riding drogon for the first time s7 was not good and season 8 was horrible it’s a shame they should’ve make got ten season make the king knight 2 seasons and the knight king taking KL and the iron throne that would’ve been cool af and if they’re going the mad queen road build it up properly s10 could be about the war with Cersei a siege on KL Cersei doing tricks with wildfire on Daenerys army during the siege dany gets pissed and kill Cersei and the last 3 episode would be about Sansa rebellion and war with the north eventually Jon chooses his sisters or something that would have been so much better I hope they revive her in the snow sequel
@@Mc_nice56 and 7 were awesome
It's a neat little visual detail to see Jeoffrey "Baratheon" in red Lannister armor. Story wise, this can be explained away by the need for an army to easily tell friend from foe, but it's also a visual nod to the fact that Jeoffrey is not a Baratheon but 100 percent Lannister.
Well from King Robert's death onwards the entire royal family basically drops the Baratheon heraldry. Joffery has the lion and the stag on his sigil and everything else is Lannister themed.
Yeah, not exactly smart.
"Come with me and take this city."
Short. Succinct. Badass.
Stupid.
Fits Stannis perfectly. Other characters would've gone on for five minutes with a motivational speech
Stanis was a good man. Thankyou
Stannis is a loser. Big time.
@@a.w.3438 actually stannis is the best.. the writers screwed up not making him king
It's nighttime but I can still see everything! What an incredible concept!
It'S sUpPoSeD tO mAkE yOu FeEl ThE tErRoR
Your tv settings weren’t at the right settings to be able to visualize d and d sucking eachother off.
Season 8: "It's nighttime, but the Vid is too dark, I can`t see a shit.....! What an incredible concept!"
It’s like both armies want to see what they are doing for some reason
Yes right, in episode of fight versus white walkers, i can't watch a damm thing ,it was so dark, i thought i was the only one who cannot watch anything
When anyone sees that much fire no one gets inspired when a commanders asks you to go and attack
But WHEN HE GOES FIRST AND LEAD THE ATTACK
That is another story
10,000 dead souls: How did you all die?
"Wildfire"
1 Dude: How did you die?
"A flying barrel"
3:19
Piece of the rigging actually.
That's a block and tackle
Edmure Tully would have missed the ocean.
He'd have actuality hit someone by pure luck or bad luck for him :D
and probably nailed stannis in the face
Lol this comment is underrated
What are you talking about? Can some eloberate?
piyush garg at some point in season 1 or 2 Edmure Tully tries to deed his fathers (I think) funeral by setting the vessel on which his dads dead body is placed ablaze, by shooting flaming arrows at it. As dumb as he is,he misses all the shots so some other dude does it for of him.
One thing you have to give it to Stannis: whatever he demands, he does it first himself.
yes he is the first to ride on the boat its hard to see a king like that
“Sometimes right, sometimes wrong… but always certain”
A true leader is Stannis. What a character.
He's a serious man, Stannis Baratheon.
@@AceJackov “harder than any man you’ve met.”
"Come with me and take this city."
Simple. To the point, and said with authority. Stannis knows his position.
''There is no creature on this Earth half so terrifying as a truly just man.'' It captivates Stannis. The way he nods his head when the knight says ''Hundreds will die.'', shows that it truly doesn't matter to him how many will die so long as justice has been served.
"That Still Only Counts As One!!!!"
Wrong fantasy epic lmao
It gets really quiet and Tyrion suddenly hears Stannis yell that at them
Stannis: Gimli has played his little trick, it only counts as one
Stannis speech: Send forth all legions. Do not the stop the attack until the city is taken. Slay them all.
Lol 😂
The first battle in the show that truly felt like it had movie levels of budget.
The first battle in the show that was actually on-screen
Love the Hound's reaction.
As a man who's been burned and knows that pain, watching hundreds if not thousands of other men simultaneously go up in flames and experience that same pain -without any warning - it seems like he might be connecting Tyrion the Dwarf to Gregor the Mountain in his mind, in this moment; and that this might be the first wave that rocks the boat in this battle, that makes him consider leaving the Lannisters to their fate.
Fun Fact: the tactic that Tyrion used with the ''fireship'' is a real historical naval battle tactic.
They used to take ships,fill them up with various flammable materials like tar,oil,gunpowder etc. and use them as ''floating bombs'' against enemy ships.
The Dutch used these ''fireships' against the Spanish Armada,in the 16th century,during their war of independence to great effect and the Greeks perfected this tactic during the greek war of indepence of 1821,against the Osmanic fleet.
A greek naval commander,by the name Constantin Kanaris,even managed to burn the Osmanic fleet's flagship,outside of the island of Chios,a huge Man of War battleship with a ''fireship''.
Also,the ''wildfire'' is inspired by the ''greek fire'' of the Byzantine Empire,a medievil incidiary weapon similar to napalm or white phosphorus,that couldn't be extinguished with water and used extensively in naval battles by the Byzantines.
His exact chemical formula is still today unknown,because the Byzantines kept it as a state secret.
Can you talk to Dany? She needs to get schooled on these prior battles and military tactics...she is currently getting her ass handed to her (-2 Dragons). Sir Devros survived this battle, better ask him for advice. Has Tyrion told her about wildfire? Cersi surely will use it as a weapon in the days to come.
A tactic used by cunts...
This was indeed a fun fact, thanks?
@@ihsangulez4226 Shut up osmanic incel.
Also, the 'wildfire' itself is based upon Greek fire, which was supposedly used like giant flamethrowers, only the fire would even burn on contact with water and not die out.
I say supposedly, because the recipe for Greek fire was lost long ago. Nobody knows how it was created, but it's possibly very similar to napalm.
Apparently it was fucking devastating on the battlefield.
Haha remember when GoT battles were fought with tactics and logic?
I almost would have preferred the Battle of Winterfell to be like the Battle of Oxcross, back when they didn't have the budget for a battle. Just time skip to the end of the battle and Arya wiping Night King blood or ice chips or whatever he has, off her sword.
Yeah and when characters died in an epic way
*thousands*
Well, not Stannis.
When you are versing mindless hordes of zombies there are no tactics or logic that will work. The dothraki probs shouldn't have charged headlong but otherwise it was pretty standard military tactics for that level of fighting and tech
2:34. The shot of davos flying overboard and the blast of wildfire completely incinerating the ship gives me chills
“For a brick, he flew pretty good!”
Love how these early series were written. Even in a chaotic battle scene, the show finds an opportunity to teach us about the main characters using their reactions to the wildfire: Bronn and the Hound, tough soldiers are nonetheless shaken by the force they’ve unleashed, revealing a humanity we hadn’t really seen in them yet. Joff and the pyromancer are sadists, excited by all the horror. And empathetic Tyrion is more interested and disturbed by the reactions of those around him.
Very good observations ! ... I might be willing to cut the pyromancer some slack as ....we know nothing about him as a rounded-character ....and presumably his skill and knowledge has been used to protect the city against what they might percieve as a murderous and savage attack : the craftsman has seen his tools utilised effectively .....Joff of course is beyond any such "slack" ....
I love the expression Stannis makes before he says: "Thousands" :D
Janul2 Looks like Obama!!
Red Wine Do not compare me to that spineless fool.
@@King_Stannis_Baratheon Tell it like it is Stannis the Mannis.
Oh my gosh, same dude
He’s like “meh, oh well”
Bronn: *25 kill streak*
TACTICAL NUKE INCOMING!!!
25 kill streak
He's got 1000 kill streak
@@sheldon-cooper its not a kill streak you idiots this was environmental multi-kill
@@FatihAegon well I mean he did kill more than 5 people which means he would be on a "Killstreak" even with the environmental part. But even then he was directly involved in killing them because of the arrow
@@sheldon-cooper no if you shoot any environmental things it will count as a environmental kill like a rope holding something heavy if you shoot the rope and heavy thing drops and kills somebody it will count as a environmental kill same thing counts if you shoot something incendineary on water
@@FatihAegon clearly my attempt at *humour* didn't reach some people
If this was season 8 you would have lannister cavalry charging the ships on the water.
This was one of the most painful scenes in the show. WHY did stannis have to lose? Probably the second greatest tragedy of the show (following season 8).
Stand and fight! Stand and fight damn you! *gets dragged off by soldiers* Noooooo!!!!!!!
Red Wedding was infinitely worse dude.
@@77777Spooky True, but not really a "tragedy" on storytelling level. Robb had lost the war.
What about pretty much everything that happened to the starks.
True but remember that if Stannis had won, Tyrion would have been executed along with Varys and Littlefinger, so we would have lost some great characters.
The one thing I've always hated about this scene is that it paints Davos in a bad light. In the books, Davos wasn't in charge of this naval engagement. He had no choice but to follow Stannis' current admiral, and Davos mentions that he has serious reservations about their plan. He wanted to leave the fleet out at sea and scout the blackwater. He also wanted the Lyseni pirate Sallador to take a more direct part in the battle, as Sallador's men had more experience as sailors and fighters. Unfortunately for Stannis and his army, Davos was treated as nothing more than an up-jumped old woman who had no taste for battle.
I always thought it made no sense that admitted non-fighter and Hand of the King Davos is on the front lines......
@@dksoulstice6040 well George RR Martin did write this episode.
@Anjelica Snorcket not enough budget( battle of Oxcross would've been great to see) they were saving it for Blackwater episode. I also wanted battle of the whispering wood and green fork in s1 but again budget reasons.
@@manvirshergill1739 hopefully someone will do an animated show for game of thrones wiht competent writers and which follows the books properly (hopefully with the same badass animation as castlevania)
Well in the end Davos gets to sit opposite the 2 men responsible for the death of his son every single day.
pyromancer: watches the explosion and loves it
sandor: watches the explosion but is horrified
joffrey: misses the explosion but loves the aftermath
tyrion: missed the explosion and is horrified by the aftermath
says a lot about their respective characters to be honest...
And bronn was thinking 'What have I done?! '. Would be interested to know what does that say abt his character???
Sandor wasn't horrified for the same reason as Tyrion. He is a pyrophobe because his brother the mountain held his face in the fire as children.
@@180190ful Yes, one of the best parts of the scene, even Bronn is shook by what he's done.
@@gagewileman9434 I think the Hound was terrified for both reasons - his phobia and the sheer destruction. Although he is a "by any means necessary" guy, he still has some principles and I think one of those is along the lines of: In battle, men should die by the sword, swiftly, not tortured by magic.
Don’t forget about podrick
Joffrey: _let's Tyrion plan everything about the defense, doesn't attend a single meeting about it and knows absolutely nothing aside from 'uhh stand on the walls I guess', giving Tyrion complete control and seemingly trusting his judgement_
Also Joffrey: wHeRe aRE tHe sHiPS
Joffrey shortly after the explosion: Do it again! Do it again!
@@cooljackster7390 Also Joffrey, despite Tyrion absolutely annihilating his enemies in a fashion he clearly adored: "Ser Mandon, kill him anyway."
@@sporeceress1465 it was little finger
@@erickariuki6842Pretty sure it was Cersei, Littlefinger doesn't have that kind of authority, nor is he foolish enough to use Mandon Moore as his agent
I love how this clips ends with a guy juggling
Stannis' army has been poetically fucked by both fire and ice.
Tyrion: "Hold fast!"
Geoffrey: "What are you doing we need to attack them!!!"
Thus it became clear that D&D are basically Geoffrey
Ban its Joffrey
@@jamesdavies295 King Jeff Baratheon lmao
4:15 The despair in the voice of that Officer really makes you think and feel how terrible running into battle will be.
The thing about this scene that is so fantastic, is that it is inherently horrifying for all involved. Even the defenders are shaken by the slaughter.
Yeah, because if a weapon like that exists, they can imagine it one day being used against them. That is true horror.
I love the Hounds face at 3:30, like he's just seen the gates of hell open before him and his worst nightmares become reality.
NO FIRE
@@adamscaife6931 "Fire, sir?" "NO, DON'T PULL THAT-" {> boom
Rory's performance as the Hound is underrated!
3:20 Most embarrassing way to go when everything around you is being burnt by wildfire.
I scrolled down to find this comment
I don't think that was in the script. Bonk.
@@betsyboneshaker2204 It very much was xD
Damn stormtrooper moment there. 🤣🤣🤣
Oof
Tyrion without even the patience to insult Joffrey in the moment. Just, "Hold fast." The man is working here.
0:07 Despite being a psychotic boyking, he did have a few abilities...he was amazingly accurate with a crossbow, and he had very sharp eyes...he was the first to spot the fleet, out of all those searching for it from atop the walls.
True, true. He was quite dumb, but he had some surprisingly intelligent moments.
@@Sheamuscz A more coherent army and "Um...there's a Targaryen that has dragons-we might want to do something about her?"
His idea of a royal army contributed to by all the lords is not half bad either .
Painful to see he had potential.
@@stormbringer2840 Maybe if Cersei had ignored him like she did with Myrcella and Tommen ...
@@TV-ge3uj Maybe… but it seems he was a sociopath from the start , Cersei ‘s education probably dumbed him down . If she ignored him he may have been a competent sociopath.
Joffrey: Attack!
Tyrion: Hold on I’m about to do what’s called a pro gamer move
Tyrion, looking at Davros : Imma bout to end this man’s whole career...
"That's radiation ionizing the air"
Sorry, wrong TV show.
Edit: Wow, didn't expect so many people to get the joke.
@Lefter Mc Chernobyl, I think
Youre delusional theres no wild fire on blackwater bay waters. Take him to grand mister pycelle
wrong HBO show lmao
You didn't see any wildfire because it isn't there.
@@cw270693 The wildfire's emitting 3.6 Roentgen, not great, not terrible
*Stannis sees half his fleet and troops wiped out in a single blow*
"The dwarf's played his little trick. COME WITH ME AND TAKE THIS CITY!"
i love stannis so much. no big speech, nothing fancy, simply "come with me and take this city!"
Lol 3:32 tyrion be like What the hell have I done! Joffrey be like Christmas has come early
JVS Ermelo haha yeah that's what I was thinking!
Look at Pod the Rod's face.
Not Christmas* that would be like diwali.....
Later on Tyrion has the same look when Dany burns the Lannister army .
@@ankurraj749 They don't know what a Diwali is.
2:52
Bronn may be a cutthroat but even he seems moved, even disturbed by the sight of all that carnage.
The amount of exp Bronn must have got from his one arrow shot must be immense
I won't lie, what really gave me chills the first time I saw this wasn't the explosion or screaming that followed; it was the look on Stannis' face right before he replied "thousands."
Looking back on everything, who else wishes stanis had sacked king’s landing and taken the iron throne?
Well, I don't mind if stannis soldiers "having fun" with cersei while sacking the keep. But it means sansa will be dead in that moment. Kinda had split feeling about this
But he would have killed Tyrion along with the rest of the Lannisters.
bringsik100 All Sansa has to say is that her father was supporting Stannis’ claim and she would’ve been safe
@@introvert211
Then what? Engage Bran to Shireen?
You know you should bound alliance with marriage.
O... Bran will surely so F up just to save Sansa
@@bringsik100 Sansa would not be dead if Stannis captures King's Landing lol
3:51 The closest that he is to smiling.
nah I don't think so.
0:22 looks like a bit of a smug grin there tbh
@@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic1139 ya, i just felt like leaving a comment. Lol
He's grinding his teeth as usual
"Soiders wins wars not magic and spells, " literally takes out an entire army with magic and spells" Oh bronnn " lol
wildfire isnt magical nor is it a spell
@@alexbattaglia8297 it is actually made from spells and magic 💀😭
The look on Bronn’s face says “Damn. I was wrong.”
I love that Stannis was the first one in the boat and the first one to start climbing the ladders
Several things I LOVE in this scene 1. Sandor's reactions to the fire 2. The break in the voice of Stannis's officer when he says "But the wild~fire..." 3. "Thousands" (that line I've watched over and over and I never tire of it) 4. Stannis is the first down the ladder. This scene catapulted Stannis up my list of the most interesting character's in the series.
Stannis responds to this setback like a total boss.
"Thousands"
That one word is better than all the dialogue in the last few seasons.
Love the 2 seconds of dontos Hollard juggling at the end 😂
I really missed Stannis. Between the show and the books, he was the "king" I liked most. And oh yeah, he was actually the TRUE heir to the throne.
He had his fans, despite his total lack of charm, his murder of his brother by blood magic and his fondness for burning "heretics", but burning your own sweet little daughter at the stake is crossing the line. Actually, a Baratheon with Stannis/ Robert's warrior skills, Stannis' sense of duty and Renly's charm would have made a great king.
@@maggiesmith856yeah but I doubt book stannis would do that also I think renly was going to kill him first at least in the books
The thing I like about Stannis, he never retreat. He keeps on fighting, even in S5E10 where it was the end of him. Such a badass
He was a fool not to retreat when he knew he didn't have a chance of winning against the Boltons. Basically he committed suicide and took his remaining troops with him.
@@maggiesmith856 it's not Stannis fault that Bolton got some magic cavalry and infinite stack of food for no reason.
@@jamie_d0g978 Bad guys have the worst plot armour in this show and always have. Always hated people claiming this is a show where anything can happen to anyone, when Bolton had all the magic powers in the world to keep living and winning whilst he was fulfilling the role of "series antagonist". Same with Cersei.
@Jamie_ D0G it is his fault he kept listening to that crazy bish. He lost half his army for burning his daughter alive and he killed his own brother. He deserved to lose.
I remember watching this scene for the first time right after it came out. It was amazing. Nowdays we take these grand battle scenes on TV for granted but at the time this was a spectacle. And combined with those rich characters, dialogues and storylines... What a great show this was!
That speech at the end that Stannis gives come with me and take the city is so bad ass
Stannis is always badass
Director Krennic: "Oh it's beautiful."
I love how Tyrion's armour incorporates a bit of book lore: the symbol of the Hand of the King is a golden chain of office of hands linking together. It's emblazoned on Tyrion's breastplate. In the show, they just use a pin with a single hand on it instead.
I never noticed that before, and I’m not quite thru ASOS. Gotta say, tho - I prefer the show’s pin
Remember when Stannis was actually a powerful character with the potential to unite all the kingdoms. What a disservice they did to the man who was supposed to be the most accomplished General in Westeros
Joffrey was such a good King, he spotted the ships first and then when he was needed elsewhere, he did not hesitate to trust his soldiers to do all the fighting for him
I love how everyone is getting burnt to death and this one dude got hit by a part of a ship
A Barrel to be exact
I love how Bronn almost regrets what he’s just done
Pretty sure he was just mesmerised and didn't regret anything!
"I didn't ask for enough gold for this."
Can’t believe it’s been nine years since this happened. This was already considered a hell of a CG accomplishment for the series.
I think the best part for me was the look on the old pyromancer's face as the warm wind from the explosion rushed over his face. I'm not sure if it was a look of satisfaction, or disbelief but it was priceless. ❤😆
aside from Dragons, wildfire was the closest thing the realm had to an actual WMD.
No. It's GOT's version of Greek fire.
Dragons are WMD there, but not wildfire.
@@michaeldaley4777 Greek Fire was the historical version of a WMD
Dragons are the fantastical.
Neither are something I'd like to get on the wrong side of.
What’s a WMD?
@@2frey84 Weapon of Mass Destruction
Type it into CZcams and search.
That wide shot on 3:05 is great. Great shot on showing the vast scale of chaos and damage from the wildfire.
Love how it shows that the old guy and Joffrey are smiling like idiots while Tyrion and the hound look on with horror.
Bronn with the arrow was SO badass and the arrow shot was AAA. LOVE THAT SCENE.
It would have been so cool to see also the giant chain that Tyrion ordered to make in the books to trap stannis's ships as well.
I appreciate that they make the effort to show the wildfire touching off regular fires, and repeatedly show wildfire and regular fire in the same frame instead of just slapping a filter on all of it.
When Tyrion made good strategic plans
*made
When Stannis says that Tyrion can only play his “little trick” once, there’s really no way he could have known there weren’t more wildfire boats coming.
In the book there were dozens
To be fair, no other wildfire ships would have been able to cross the burning wreck of Stannis’s ships. By the time Stannis got close enough to the shore, it would have been too close to light any wildfire without risk of burning the city.
even if there were, the ships could be easily avoided due to having no pilot
I loved Bron's expression, not once did he ever show fear, But here he was legit terrorified that he touched off the literal equiv for the show of a Nuke
The horror on Tyrions face when he sees the effects of the Wildfire
Oh my god there’s “lighting” in this battle 😜
Haha
To be fair you can tell moments (specially from the boats) where the uploader edited the video and raised the brightness
PinkGuy VEVO No it was dumb. They took it too far. I tried turning up the brightness on my tv, adjusting settings, turning off all the lights in the room and it didn’t make a difference. I couldn’t see what was going on in many scenes. I gotta tell you, there’s nothing less intense than staring at a blank screen.
-the Hound
The archers on Davos' ship have the strength of Thor to hold those drawn bows.
The look on Stannis' face right before he says "thousands."
Everyone is shocked with a grim look on their face except the Pyro and Joffrey who are smiling. 😂
"Fulminated mercury, with a tweak of chemistry."
"SCIENCE BITCH!"
YEAH, SCIENCE!
Ahahahahah only for legends.
"This is not meth"
Season 2, preparing for a single attack on a single place for a whole season and then delivering on that attack. Versus preparing for a war on the world for 7 seasons and then failing.
For all of Stannis's flaws, he was damn fine soldier, and a quality leader in battle
Why don't we get these kind of battle ideas for the battle of winterfell instead of sending dothraki armies to get slaughtered. Old tyrion was probably the best strategist in the 7 kingdoms.
Can’t emphasize this enough
Because Battle of Blackwater Bay was written by G.R.R Martin and not incopetent creators of the show. By the way even Blackwater Bay was slightliy simplified in the show.
because writers lol
Because the brains of the show stopped writing 2 seasons ago.
If not for Tyrion Stannis would have been in full control of King's Landing by the time Twying and the Tyrells arrived. And if not for Tyrion's mountain clans killing Stannis's scouts, they wouldn't even have been able to surprise Stannis.
briliant line at the end " come with me and take the city "
About 3:32 is very telling. Even though the plan worked, you can see Clegane and Tyrion aren't enjoying it, where as Joffrey and the pyromancer are both psychos and loving it.
I love how Stannis had his own theme music.
stannis = bad ass king
Prashanth Murali fuck off