MBT sold me on the format in his Cwarantine Series #12. VW and Drytron can both brick. They don't have 1-card full-combo starters. They can both be interrupted by single handtraps under average conditions, and it seems like the handtraps that work on one are equally effective against the other. Their bosses don't have passive protection. Drytron typically can't out Mine, DRNM, or Vanity's Ruler. These decks feel beatable. It's still weird calling Eldlitch rogue.
The only problems with outting a drytron end-board is that you potentially have to deal with 2 more disruptions in the form of orange light w/ Eva and you also have to kill them or else they’ll pick themselves back up. They also have a really small chance of bricking.
@@JennieYGO Yeah, but going second Drytron has lots of trouble against Mine. Yeah they play negates going first (also Ruler doesn't much care about Mine), but unless they're playing twin twisters main they're not doing anything in game one. Game two and three are different stories, but that's true of most decks going against Mystic Mine.
@@benpeterson4673 And one of the best decks for getting Mine up AND going first is Prank Kids. End on Bow Wow with Mine and they have to either pass turn, nuke mine, or lock themselves.
@@YourKingSkeletor Imma be honest, I'm still returning to the game and have played against prank-kids ones of times, and I was going first. I'll take your word for it.
Imagine this format getting closer to how OCG format is, where they seem more control oriented. And then to top it all off, if it gets there and it results in Maxx C getting unbanned? Cimo is going to have nightmares lol.
@@benpeterson4673 exactly in ocg land it’s a good meta deck but so are pendulums, shadolls, orcust, and thunder dragon. It still wins games but other decks also have the same balance. Also we have thunder dragons here to check every deck since everyone wants to add cards with no real cost
@@rd9669 Actually...from what I can tell in the OCG Drytron ISN'T a meta deck. Between Maxx C, Colossus, Vanity's Emptiness, and the more powerful pendulum decks, Drytron is, at best, a decent rogue strategy in the OCG.
@@benpeterson4673 yeah like I said it’s a pretty good meta deck like orcust, pendulums, shadolls, and thunder dragon. Drytron is just as good as these decks and these decks are pretty relevant still. We have a large other section in our meta break downs that’s what these decks would be maybe even a couple ftk decks and etc. if we didn’t have good floodgates drytron would probably be tier 1 best deck too
@@rd9669 Where do you get your data? Becase from what I can find Drytron is definitively not as good as the other decks you listed and really isn't a good deck at all. I can only find one week where it took more than one spot in the top ocg decks over the course of the last three months. Most of the decks you mentioned double, triple, or quadruple that consistently AND let's not forget the growing centralizing of the meta around VW, which is consistently growing in representation (30+% of the metagame as of the last data I could find).
No wonder, if DDD draws busted they ARE busted, no matter the opponents deck :) Exept maybe if the opponent has 4 handtraps, but i mean what are they gonna do on their turn?🤷♂️
This format is great...Until you play a deck that relies on drawing the VFD outs to out him (aka literally RNG), or until the same thing happens for Vanity's Ruler (with even less chances of working cause herald of ultimateness), or until you barely don't kill Drytron and get punished by literally getting your entire board yoinked by Natasha loops, or until you realize that the Anaconda => Dragoon engine as well as ZEUS are still roaming free and perfectly legal to use.
@@DarkRockerTom Then play a deck that doesn't lose to VFD, Yugioh is just like this now, all you can do is increase the propablity of drawing an out or play a deck that doesn't care about vfd.
@@phaseloli6668 ok so a trap deck. Being forced into playing a very specific way, just because of a single generic monster is not the sign of a good format.
@@B.27y juts stop literally the only pendulum deck that’s even half good is zefra and that’s because they have a Retard as floodgate pendulum isn’t even tier 2 right now
@@B.27y also with the new spell counter rull any one that wants to play pendulums at a regional is literally fucked not to mention you guys didn’t even get electromight back you wanna know why because pendulum is literally the worst competitive deck in this format they lose to every deck in this format they can’t even be considered rouge without trif piloting the deck.
I don't like control formats, mainly because I don't like control decks, but that just means I can play my 60 card Lightsworns without the worry of being hand trapped left and right 😍
I had an interesting interaction with Virtual World. I stopped them from being able to go into VFD with a single Effect Veiler and with a weakened boardstate I ran house with friggin Familiar Possessed. Eldlich also can be countered with a single Denko Sekka or an Abyss Dweller or Lancea which is hilarious. Drytron don't typically run back row removal so if you go first, you can set up Summon Limit and go gg.
@@phaseloli6668 aye but these are still unsearchable side deck cards. I will admit that the format is much better than the last, but hoping to draw these cards just to stand a chance is still not the best.
To be honest as a go second player xD I prefer combo formats in those formats hard combo decks are easier to beat to me Is kinda annoying deal with calamities and eldlichs Also I dont like to play control based deck xD But Im enyoing this format a lot anyways Im planning to play an ftk deck in locals since people is not running nibiru or inper xD jajaja I will enjoy this format anyways
@@zagorsaxe It’s fine giving rogue decks support, but if all of them are running the same generic boss monster and that’s their main win condition, that’s a problem.
@@zagorsaxe the issue with dragoon is it's a gatekeeper to the format, it may help some rogue decks but also the majority of rogue decks can't out it and if you can't out dragoon your having a rough time
I’m curious as to why people don’t like this format. I hate True King of All Calamities as much as everyone else but having a diverse meta with a lot of traps decks is a sign of a good format. In any other format it would just be who ever wins the die roll wins but now that’s not necessarily the case sometimes. There’s a lot of back and forth and grind games even with the combo decks. People always complain that duels end after turn 2 but now that they have that they’re still complaining because Calamities is in the format? There’s never going to be a perfectly balanced meta but this is pretty much as good as it gets, especially with how power creep affects our game.
Yup this format is really easy to play various decks. I've been bumming out Code Talker on competitive servers on EDOPRO and have seen a fair bit of success
It's a fun format. I'm enjoying smashing VW and Drytrons with Dogmatika Invoked (while losing to random obscure rogue duel links tier decks cos I don't know what their cards do)
you can play a ton of decks in majority of formats from the last 2-3 years, doesnt change the fact that people are gonna cry when the top 3 decks of the format continue to see success.
This format is definitely far more fair than it has been, but VFD is still a problem. 1 thing I like about it is the fact that more niche handtraps like ghost Belle are good
Tbh I was just thinking the same thing. VW and Drytron aren't unbeatable, and Lich is an easy matchup for most decks I play. I like this format a lot better than the last one, and I don't really mind that this is what we'll have for the next few months.
I disagree. While great in theory, in practice it is very much like the old formats control decks, in other words its pretty boring. However its okay by itself
I didn’t have fun the other day playing at locals against a Virtua deck that handlooped me with X saber Gottoms. Hand looping shouldn’t be a thing at all. Ever.
Wanna know what hand trap worked against these 2 decks? Maxx C Wanna know what TCG doesnt have? Maxx C Solved your little issue there for counters to these strats I'll take your 3 Ulti NM maxx C as my fee thank you have a nice day
I disagree. This is the best format in a few years. Since 2015 imo. This is a spectrum format instead of a speed format. Is it possible for a slow deck like Eldlich and Dogmatika to keep up with Drytron and VW.
I'd disagree too. While there are clear top decks, all of them are arguably very fair, whether you like them or not, that won't change. The meta itself is also very slow, making it even easier for rogue decks to compete. And then there's also the card variety. Literally everything is currently viable, even a big amount of traps. That's something we haven't seen in a long time.
@@aRetailArchitect another thing to look at is that BECAUSE there are too decks that it's fair. In a format that is truly equal in it's decks, with no or very little superiority within the decks. It's so chaotic that people don't have much fun competitively. Drytron and VW being the top gives us the handtraps we need to build, gives us the droplet/drnm targets. But even more so, my 3 copies of sword of consealing i got from a structure deck helps so much now. This era of Yu-Gi-Oh is the best it's been in years,with much more variety than we had in 2015. It might be the best format period. Get rid of Calamities and Benten and we'll see the greatest era ever.
This format bores me to no end. The competitive decks sole goal is to lock the opponent out of play as much as humanly possible. Sure if you take Drytron, VR, Eldlich and Dogma out of the format all of the rogue decks are fairly balanced and on the same power level but try going against any of those decks 2nd and win without having direct maindeck outs that you've also drawn. I can't begin to tell you how much of a farcry this format is from even decent contemporary formats that have existed. HAT, DUEA, Monarch BA PePe Kozmo, Metalfoe Blue-eyes Paleo Hero, Zoo, Striker Salad Orcust Thunder are all leaps and bounds ahead of this format.
This is a great Yu-Gi-Oh format: Me after playing against the same stupid Virtual World combos, Burning Abyss Phantom Knights, Eldlich in every fucking deck, Zoodiac and still living Dragon Link: Still reminds me of last year format. WHICH WAS CANCER INCARNATE!
So just to give some precisions to compare between the format: Virtual World as stupid Salamangreat. BA Phantom Knights as Orcust. Eldlich is Eldlich. Zoodiac is the equivalent of Sky Stricker, instead of using Link spam, you get XYZ spam. Dragon Link didn't really change between formats. And if you want you can put Drytron and compare it to Nekroz. Yeah, "NEW" format...
@@zagorsaxe It will only make something else broken, but I understand how it helps ABC and other decks. Lightning overdrive has a new monster that lets you negate any monster effect on your opponents turn when it is equipped and it’s a light monster
@@zagorsaxe It’s intended to be used with the the new utopia ZW cards. They do things intentionally, but I think that history has shown that there are also times where they just don’t think far ahead. Union carriers main problem is how generic it is. It’s impossible to make really good equip able monster in an archetype rn because it would be abused. Basically means that the design will be limited as long as you have union carrier
@@zagorsaxe Cough cough Needlefibre, Linkross, Electrumite, Firewall Dragon. Yeah I don't think so. I think it is silly for a card like destruction sword to have to be banned SOLEY because of Carrier... There's nothing wrong with generic support if you do it right but if you have stuff like Needlefibre which is supposed to support CRYSTRON first and foremost it falls flat and becomes degenerate with the deck that needed it most still not getting a boost in power. There's a very big distinction between a generic engine in a deck and an overly generic boss monster that leads an entire summoning method if not more that's just toxic for the game. So in conclusion I think Konami is going way too far with the generic stuff which hurts the game in the long run
@@zagorsaxe I mean low key it kind of matters because in one case it is available TO ALL DECKS and ín the other it's in a terrible non meta deck that sees no competitive play and therefor even if the card is toxic it would never see the light of day
@@zagorsaxe better than degenerate generic stuff. If the card doesn't see play it won't hurt ANYBODY. Like if the card would never see play under normal circumstances then it really doesn't matter how uber broken or toxic the card is because realistically it is a hot pile of garbage.
I apologize, but could someone please explain to me why this is a good format? I don't know if I can properly explain myself and why I disagree, but I'll try. Before I continue, I would like to say that I don't play the meta, and I don't normally play any decks that used to be meta, Such as Dogmatika Invoked or invoked Shaddoll, etc. First off, in my opinion, deck diversity alone does not constitute a good format, especially when that diversity is taken up by a handful of decks. What I mean by that is, even excluding the top three decks, the other rogue decks still feel like I'm playing against the meta. These decks, to me in particular, are unbeatable and will never be beatable in any circumstances. Of course, that's probably because of my playstyle. As someone who enjoys playing pure, and playing old decks, my decks will never be good enough to stand up to even 1 or 2 negates, especially with how liberally they're used. I can't play a single turn. That's it. I can't play a single turn. If I make a single move, going first or second, my life is ruined by effect veiled, impermanence, ash blossom, or a solemn card. I can't play any of the NEW decks in their original state and win a game. If I play security force, I'm going to lose, if I play live twins, chances are I'm going to lose, if I play lightsworn, unless I get really lucky, I'm going to lose. I know lightsworn is not a new deck, but still. Normally, if I see eldlich or invoked, or dinos, or even drytron, I scoop. If I'm veilered or ashed, or gamma'd, or impermed, I scoop. Not because I have a bad deck, even though I most likely do, but because I don't get to play from that point on. It's why I'm happy to have decks like virtual world, or madolche, or Dogmatika, because it allows me to play through disruption without having to feel like an asshole. I know all this sounds like I'm contradicting myself and disproving my own point now, but what I think I'm getting at, or at least trying to get at, is that I don't want to have to play specific decks to beat the meta, I don't want to have to play cards that ruin my consistency just to win games. I don't want to be the angry guy playing mystic mine, or the sad guy playing stun. I Don't wanna be the guy playing a butt-load of handtraps to stop everything my opponent does every turn, I don't wanna build a deck based purely around dealing with threats all the time just so I can have the satisfaction of finally winning a game. I want to be able to play the decks I want to play, as they were intended to be played. You can say that these are just the words of a salty yu-gi-oh player who needs to learn to get with the times and stop being stuck in the past, and you'd technically be right. But here's the thing. I'm not an old yugioh player. I'm basically brand new. I'm 22, and started playing this game online two years ago, and I already want to leave this game because of how terrible some of the people are and how unfair this game can be. I don't know if this has convinced some of you, or if there are even people who understand what I mean, but I hope you read all this drabble and at least hear my opinion.
I'm sorry but this feels like one of the worst formats I've played in some time, sure rogue decks have been stealing tops at various events, but the over-representation of Virtual World and Dryton being combo decks that end on auto-win floodgates is worse in my opinion than the buster lock (not saying I liked the buster lock but yeah), and maining cards to beat those strategies isn't feasible, because of the over-representation of Eldlich variants in all levels of play- so it just feels like a guaranteed loss game 1 against VFD or Ruler if you lose the die roll, unless you're playing exactly a trap deck that can survive it, which is why Eldlich is essentially the only option to play competitively, and the only reason certain decks top outside those is because with good hands they can survive a VFD or Ruler- so this format just locks you out of almost all mid-tier and combo strategies, and most control decks that aren't just set 5 traps pass
Bruh zoo is not that bad lmao. The just one pop and backrow/ handtrap. Even with zeus it just one card removal. U can prevent it easily by having card that pop before summoning it and zoo just pass the turn.
I think we need to get rid of 4 cards right now. After that we might have one of the best formats in a long time. I truly believe that if those 4 cards are gone, we might get a format as iconic as DA, HAT or others.
Zaid Abu Saleem fine. Halq, VFD, Dragunn, Union carrier are the ones that must go. VFD+ Dragunn because they are too strong payoffs and Halq and Carrier for enabling to many different degenerative combos. And if you don’t believe that Carrier belongs here, it’s just a matter of time. People are already abusing it with floaters like Dawn Knight or that fairies that searches 2 others.
@@frankwest5388 That's some very mediocre ideas for hits you have there. 1. Needlefiber doesn't enable a vast amount of degenerate plays anymore, now that Linkross has been banned. Very few decks even play it now. 2. The reason you put up VFD here is Virtual World, I'd assume. That fixes next to nothing though. VW will just switch to handlooping 3-5 cards with Enterblathnir and Gottoms, which is objectively seen even worse than 2x VFD. 3. Banning Dragoon instead of the *only singular card* which makes it summonable in almost any deck (Verte Anaconda) makes literally no sense whatsoever.
User Halq has literally gotten 5 cards banned by now (sure Linkcross would probably ended up there sooner or later himself, but everything else is innocent). No card that does this much collateral damage, should be legal. Also, the second people get bored of VFD, we will see Halq decks again. It mainly doesn’t see play because people are sick of it. It can easily compete. VFD: it’s a better mystic mine. The entire current format is all about playing around that stupid thing. Kill it. Dragunn: just general bad card design. Has no weakness. While it doesn’t get as much play as people feared, it’s mere existence forces Konami to release cards as broken as droplet. Union carrier: is already being abused in ways to was clearly not intended to and will only become more degenerate. It’s only a matter of time. These are the most important hits. There are other cards that I think should go, like mine itself, but these are the ones ringing the game at the most consistent level for both competitive and casual players.
Imagine banning card that not even seen on meta. Like how konami ban toad and abc. Never ever ban something that not meta relevant . It is stupid. Give the card chance to shine on meta. Then you can freely do anything if it too busted
I agree with this video, the format rn is really good (except for vw and dinos, playing against those is terrible). Anyways, good video and keep up the good work!
Dino is a little bit overrated. Ash kill the deck, lancea just gg , floodgate in trap based is good againt dino , vfd , some sort macro cosmos. But yeah it is a good meta deck but not as unfair as other meta deck last format
People who say playing combo takes no skill are dumb. It takes skill memorize the combos, to get it with any hand and actually achieve it while playing through disruption.
i mean sadly we dont have locals currently, like i had last format...but last format against dragon link and buster lock was far away from having fun. i hope we have locals again soon. i just want to have fun with salad and sky striker in this format.
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MBT sold me on the format in his Cwarantine Series #12. VW and Drytron can both brick. They don't have 1-card full-combo starters. They can both be interrupted by single handtraps under average conditions, and it seems like the handtraps that work on one are equally effective against the other. Their bosses don't have passive protection. Drytron typically can't out Mine, DRNM, or Vanity's Ruler. These decks feel beatable.
It's still weird calling Eldlitch rogue.
The only problems with outting a drytron end-board is that you potentially have to deal with 2 more disruptions in the form of orange light w/ Eva and you also have to kill them or else they’ll pick themselves back up. They also have a really small chance of bricking.
Wait can’t Herald just negate mines activation lmao?
@@JennieYGO Yeah, but going second Drytron has lots of trouble against Mine. Yeah they play negates going first (also Ruler doesn't much care about Mine), but unless they're playing twin twisters main they're not doing anything in game one. Game two and three are different stories, but that's true of most decks going against Mystic Mine.
@@benpeterson4673 And one of the best decks for getting Mine up AND going first is Prank Kids. End on Bow Wow with Mine and they have to either pass turn, nuke mine, or lock themselves.
@@YourKingSkeletor Imma be honest, I'm still returning to the game and have played against prank-kids ones of times, and I was going first. I'll take your word for it.
Its a Great format, its just a shame that we are not able to get the full event experience from it :(
Truer words have never been spoken, my favourite format since pre-SESL
SESL?
@@lidaron6116 secret slayers
Not an official format but man playing online with the mr5 before duov and sesl was joy.
Konami should REALLY take a look at the way our format is now for future reference when it comes to card design.
Don’t give them anymore VFD ideas lol
no format is a good format til Weather Painters get support
Poor frogs and weather painters. They got robbed of support
Amen
What’s a Weather Painter?
@@zyro7756 Exactly.
As long as melffy is top tier it’s a good format
Then yugioh is going to be a great game for ever
It isn’t tho
@@TwuNappyTV it is tier 0
@@underpressure1954 facts
Imagine this format getting closer to how OCG format is, where they seem more control oriented. And then to top it all off, if it gets there and it results in Maxx C getting unbanned? Cimo is going to have nightmares lol.
Maxx C kills Drytron. You can probably leave the deck untouched otherwise if C is freed.
@@benpeterson4673 exactly in ocg land it’s a good meta deck but so are pendulums, shadolls, orcust, and thunder dragon. It still wins games but other decks also have the same balance. Also we have thunder dragons here to check every deck since everyone wants to add cards with no real cost
@@rd9669 Actually...from what I can tell in the OCG Drytron ISN'T a meta deck. Between Maxx C, Colossus, Vanity's Emptiness, and the more powerful pendulum decks, Drytron is, at best, a decent rogue strategy in the OCG.
@@benpeterson4673 yeah like I said it’s a pretty good meta deck like orcust, pendulums, shadolls, and thunder dragon. Drytron is just as good as these decks and these decks are pretty relevant still. We have a large other section in our meta break downs that’s what these decks would be maybe even a couple ftk decks and etc. if we didn’t have good floodgates drytron would probably be tier 1 best deck too
@@rd9669 Where do you get your data? Becase from what I can find Drytron is definitively not as good as the other decks you listed and really isn't a good deck at all. I can only find one week where it took more than one spot in the top ocg decks over the course of the last three months. Most of the decks you mentioned double, triple, or quadruple that consistently AND let's not forget the growing centralizing of the meta around VW, which is consistently growing in representation (30+% of the metagame as of the last data I could find).
I defeated zoo lich 2-0 with ddd so I get what you mean😂😂
i defeated them with Watapon OTK
@@yu-gh-oi4677 wow
No wonder, if DDD draws busted they ARE busted, no matter the opponents deck :) Exept maybe if the opponent has 4 handtraps, but i mean what are they gonna do on their turn?🤷♂️
@@clashlabs8580 Normal Summon connector eff
Zoo eldlich is not the best version of eldlich in my opinion
This format is great...Until you play a deck that relies on drawing the VFD outs to out him (aka literally RNG), or until the same thing happens for Vanity's Ruler (with even less chances of working cause herald of ultimateness), or until you barely don't kill Drytron and get punished by literally getting your entire board yoinked by Natasha loops, or until you realize that the Anaconda => Dragoon engine as well as ZEUS are still roaming free and perfectly legal to use.
Everything in yugioh is RNG, Drytron is wrecked by Droll/DRNM, Spoly on dragoon and Zeus is just idk, play good
@@phaseloli6668 the issue is that you have to draw these non searchable cards. If they make vfd and you don't see any of your counters you just scoop
@@DarkRockerTom Then play a deck that doesn't lose to VFD, Yugioh is just like this now, all you can do is increase the propablity of drawing an out or play a deck that doesn't care about vfd.
@@phaseloli6668 ok so a trap deck. Being forced into playing a very specific way, just because of a single generic monster is not the sign of a good format.
@@DarkRockerTom VFD is not generic. And despite, other decks are still topping.
Smoke Grenade: Banned
Virtual World: XX-Saber Gotton Go Brrrrr..
It's not a bad format it's just all the meta decks are so expensive right now
Not really.
Drop a hundred dollar bill and you have a Virtual World deck with almost everything you can want.
Another format of Pendulum being the best deck
This is over used it’s just annoying at this point
@@Immortalprisonking I hope Its finally over because so many people say pendulum not best deck but in the end it is the best deck again and again
@@B.27y juts stop literally the only pendulum deck that’s even half good is zefra and that’s because they have a Retard as floodgate pendulum isn’t even tier 2 right now
@@B.27y also with the new spell counter rull any one that wants to play pendulums at a regional is literally fucked not to mention you guys didn’t even get electromight back you wanna know why because pendulum is literally the worst competitive deck in this format they lose to every deck in this format they can’t even be considered rouge without trif piloting the deck.
Seems like more of a Jinzo waiting to happen format 😂
3:25 You mean that we'll realise that PEND BEST DECK LESS GOOO
I don't like control formats, mainly because I don't like control decks, but that just means I can play my 60 card Lightsworns without the worry of being hand trapped left and right 😍
This is ACTUALLY a great format!! Lets go!!!!
Less go!
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I had an interesting interaction with Virtual World. I stopped them from being able to go into VFD with a single Effect Veiler and with a weakened boardstate I ran house with friggin Familiar Possessed. Eldlich also can be countered with a single Denko Sekka or an Abyss Dweller or Lancea which is hilarious.
Drytron don't typically run back row removal so if you go first, you can set up Summon Limit and go gg.
I‘ve had a lot of success online with pure Shaddoll with a small Dogmatika engine. The archetype overall is just so well designed
Im not the biggest fan as just like the last format, if you loose the die roll against the top decks, most of the time you just go to game 2.
Side is way more effective, Droll Wrecks Drytron/VW while individualy, Dry is also wrecked by DRNM, while VW is hurt by Gamma/Ash
@@phaseloli6668 aye but these are still unsearchable side deck cards. I will admit that the format is much better than the last, but hoping to draw these cards just to stand a chance is still not the best.
End of 2021 format prediction: Tier 0 dinos vs new volcanic support... Ice Barrier stun hitting some top 32s
To be honest as a go second player xD I prefer combo formats in those formats hard combo decks are easier to beat to me
Is kinda annoying deal with calamities and eldlichs Also I dont like to play control based deck xD
But Im enyoing this format a lot anyways
Im planning to play an ftk deck in locals since people is not running nibiru or inper xD jajaja
I will enjoy this format anyways
Tbh all the march list has to do is ban VFD, ban Vanity's, ban zexal and format's pretty good.
And dragoon as well, that makes rogue decks too good
@@zagorsaxe It’s fine giving rogue decks support, but if all of them are running the same generic boss monster and that’s their main win condition, that’s a problem.
@@zagorsaxe the issue with dragoon is it's a gatekeeper to the format, it may help some rogue decks but also the majority of rogue decks can't out it and if you can't out dragoon your having a rough time
God damn it your at 23k damn good job. I saw here since 300 subs
When Dragonmaids are a viable deck, it's a great format.
ABC BEST DECK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LETS GO
I actually spit my water from reading this title. Great format? LMAO NO
Fair enough, everyone's entitled to their own opinion
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Why not?
I’m curious as to why people don’t like this format. I hate True King of All Calamities as much as everyone else but having a diverse meta with a lot of traps decks is a sign of a good format. In any other format it would just be who ever wins the die roll wins but now that’s not necessarily the case sometimes. There’s a lot of back and forth and grind games even with the combo decks. People always complain that duels end after turn 2 but now that they have that they’re still complaining because Calamities is in the format? There’s never going to be a perfectly balanced meta but this is pretty much as good as it gets, especially with how power creep affects our game.
floodgates are fun :) bring demise again so i can play draco
@@Aliengamebr Floodgates are literally the opposite of fun.
Yup this format is really easy to play various decks. I've been bumming out Code Talker on competitive servers on EDOPRO and have seen a fair bit of success
It's a fun format. I'm enjoying smashing VW and Drytrons with Dogmatika Invoked (while losing to random obscure rogue duel links tier decks cos I don't know what their cards do)
No 2019 very good format over this one
okay but why is your name read “Mike Wasowski”
Facts
Yeah I agree with this statement. I play trap shaddoll and I have been able to beat vw and drytron as long as I wasn’t playing stupid.
This...is a great Yugioh video
4:06 audio weird
you can play a ton of decks in majority of formats from the last 2-3 years, doesnt change the fact that people are gonna cry when the top 3 decks of the format continue to see success.
7:27 you forgot the most important deck. Morphtronics.
This format is definitely far more fair than it has been, but VFD is still a problem. 1 thing I like about it is the fact that more niche handtraps like ghost Belle are good
why do people always act like you wont have ultimateness and ruler? plus eva consistently
@@zagorsaxe ????????? every game
And lose to Ruler :/
@@nouvelle147 "lose" 4 drytron names in gy, benten, natasha, meteonis, try to grind against a good player lol
No board is unbreakable it loses to ruler yes but yeh that's what you get in like 90% of hands
This is the Eldlich, dogmatika, dragoon, invoked, zoodiac format
Tbh I was just thinking the same thing. VW and Drytron aren't unbeatable, and Lich is an easy matchup for most decks I play. I like this format a lot better than the last one, and I don't really mind that this is what we'll have for the next few months.
Top 100 DB with prank 😊 I genuinely love this format.
Do you want Eldlich everything or Eldlich Eldlich with a small Eldlich engine?
Y e s
Meta: Drytron, Virtual World, Dino, Controlldecks
Djinn Lock sends her regards from 2015
I disagree. While great in theory, in practice it is very much like the old formats control decks, in other words its pretty boring. However its okay by itself
Still better than start the turn with 1 card and not being able to have access to extra deck while there 4 nagate on the board
@@elitesmikos1thapostleofthe739 doesnt make it good, but yes
I didn’t have fun the other day playing at locals against a Virtua deck that handlooped me with X saber Gottoms. Hand looping shouldn’t be a thing at all. Ever.
You can throw 100 hand traps at vw and it'll still make double VFD
Lol nope
Thank god we still have “mystic mine” in the game so we can still play yugioh
After colossus comes back to 1 with a hawk to 1 and roar to 2 hit, its gonna be the best format
Nope every deck makes colossus no thank you
Wanna know what hand trap worked against these 2 decks? Maxx C
Wanna know what TCG doesnt have? Maxx C
Solved your little issue there for counters to these strats I'll take your 3 Ulti NM maxx C as my fee thank you have a nice day
Nomegalul resident sleeper format
I think you are overrating this format because the last few were just so horrible.
I disagree. This is the best format in a few years. Since 2015 imo. This is a spectrum format instead of a speed format. Is it possible for a slow deck like Eldlich and Dogmatika to keep up with Drytron and VW.
I'd disagree too.
While there are clear top decks, all of them are arguably very fair, whether you like them or not, that won't change. The meta itself is also very slow, making it even easier for rogue decks to compete.
And then there's also the card variety. Literally everything is currently viable, even a big amount of traps. That's something we haven't seen in a long time.
@@aRetailArchitect another thing to look at is that BECAUSE there are too decks that it's fair. In a format that is truly equal in it's decks, with no or very little superiority within the decks. It's so chaotic that people don't have much fun competitively. Drytron and VW being the top gives us the handtraps we need to build, gives us the droplet/drnm targets. But even more so, my 3 copies of sword of consealing i got from a structure deck helps so much now. This era of Yu-Gi-Oh is the best it's been in years,with much more variety than we had in 2015. It might be the best format period. Get rid of Calamities and Benten and we'll see the greatest era ever.
Not only you can avoid vfd as you can make your own vfd
Ok what is VFD I stopped paying attention
So we not gonna act like Dogmatika is degenerate too? Nadir to 1
Yess I 100 % agree this format is litttt and perfect mix of combo and control decks
totaly agree , dragonlink was super unhealthy and toxic for the meta as well as adamancipators in the previous formats
destroyed a vw player yesterday at locals with a shaddol magistus deck
But True Draco when?
Lost Wind best card in this format huh
Hell yea
Is this format better than last format? Yes. But would I call it "Great"? No
This format bores me to no end. The competitive decks sole goal is to lock the opponent out of play as much as humanly possible. Sure if you take Drytron, VR, Eldlich and Dogma out of the format all of the rogue decks are fairly balanced and on the same power level but try going against any of those decks 2nd and win without having direct maindeck outs that you've also drawn. I can't begin to tell you how much of a farcry this format is from even decent contemporary formats that have existed. HAT, DUEA, Monarch BA PePe Kozmo, Metalfoe Blue-eyes Paleo Hero, Zoo, Striker Salad Orcust Thunder are all leaps and bounds ahead of this format.
This is a great Yu-Gi-Oh format:
Me after playing against the same stupid Virtual World combos, Burning Abyss Phantom Knights, Eldlich in every fucking deck, Zoodiac and still living Dragon Link:
Still reminds me of last year format. WHICH WAS CANCER INCARNATE!
So just to give some precisions to compare between the format:
Virtual World as stupid Salamangreat.
BA Phantom Knights as Orcust.
Eldlich is Eldlich.
Zoodiac is the equivalent of Sky Stricker, instead of using Link spam, you get XYZ spam.
Dragon Link didn't really change between formats.
And if you want you can put Drytron and compare it to Nekroz.
Yeah, "NEW" format...
PK fire is rogue at best and hasn't been performing and dragonlink isn't doing anything anymore again rogue at best.
The format is good, because there are no 10 negates.
I mean yes there are oppressive decks but like thunder dragon still is great
Still kinda salty that Destruction Sword had to go instead of Union Carrier...
@@zagorsaxe It will only make something else broken, but I understand how it helps ABC and other decks.
Lightning overdrive has a new monster that lets you negate any monster effect on your opponents turn when it is equipped and it’s a light monster
@@zagorsaxe It’s intended to be used with the the new utopia ZW cards. They do things intentionally, but I think that history has shown that there are also times where they just don’t think far ahead.
Union carriers main problem is how generic it is. It’s impossible to make really good equip able monster in an archetype rn because it would be abused. Basically means that the design will be limited as long as you have union carrier
@@zagorsaxe Cough cough Needlefibre, Linkross, Electrumite, Firewall Dragon.
Yeah I don't think so. I think it is silly for a card like destruction sword to have to be banned SOLEY because of Carrier...
There's nothing wrong with generic support if you do it right but if you have stuff like Needlefibre which is supposed to support CRYSTRON first and foremost it falls flat and becomes degenerate with the deck that needed it most still not getting a boost in power.
There's a very big distinction between a generic engine in a deck and an overly generic boss monster that leads an entire summoning method if not more that's just toxic for the game. So in conclusion I think Konami is going way too far with the generic stuff which hurts the game in the long run
@@zagorsaxe I mean low key it kind of matters because in one case it is available TO ALL DECKS and ín the other it's in a terrible non meta deck that sees no competitive play and therefor even if the card is toxic it would never see the light of day
@@zagorsaxe better than degenerate generic stuff. If the card doesn't see play it won't hurt ANYBODY. Like if the card would never see play under normal circumstances then it really doesn't matter how uber broken or toxic the card is because realistically it is a hot pile of garbage.
What single handtrap stops Virtual World exactly?
The Ally of Justice one hit hard
Vanity’s is wrong in drytron and the top rated players in DB have shown that
@@zagorsaxe www.twitch.tv/trishulattv
Watch his lastest stream. His Drytron build is insane actually
eyyy i agree
The best format will always be right .............................around the time of Envoy of the end and beginning.
2020 best format
Honestly the way you cut the audio was awkward in places.
I’m not happy till misc is gone
Bro literally nobody is playing dino right now, stop complaining about a bad deck.
@@underpressure1954 There's a decent number of people playing Dinos in remote duels.
You: great format!
Me playing online the last few days getting spammed the true king xyz , dragoon, infinite negate, random ftk’s etc
Bah, i quitted.
Just collecting ultimates
So much of this video kinda feels like just draw handtraps forehead
I apologize, but could someone please explain to me why this is a good format? I don't know if I can properly explain myself and why I disagree, but I'll try. Before I continue, I would like to say that I don't play the meta, and I don't normally play any decks that used to be meta, Such as Dogmatika Invoked or invoked Shaddoll, etc. First off, in my opinion, deck diversity alone does not constitute a good format, especially when that diversity is taken up by a handful of decks. What I mean by that is, even excluding the top three decks, the other rogue decks still feel like I'm playing against the meta. These decks, to me in particular, are unbeatable and will never be beatable in any circumstances. Of course, that's probably because of my playstyle. As someone who enjoys playing pure, and playing old decks, my decks will never be good enough to stand up to even 1 or 2 negates, especially with how liberally they're used. I can't play a single turn. That's it. I can't play a single turn. If I make a single move, going first or second, my life is ruined by effect veiled, impermanence, ash blossom, or a solemn card. I can't play any of the NEW decks in their original state and win a game. If I play security force, I'm going to lose, if I play live twins, chances are I'm going to lose, if I play lightsworn, unless I get really lucky, I'm going to lose. I know lightsworn is not a new deck, but still. Normally, if I see eldlich or invoked, or dinos, or even drytron, I scoop. If I'm veilered or ashed, or gamma'd, or impermed, I scoop. Not because I have a bad deck, even though I most likely do, but because I don't get to play from that point on. It's why I'm happy to have decks like virtual world, or madolche, or Dogmatika, because it allows me to play through disruption without having to feel like an asshole. I know all this sounds like I'm contradicting myself and disproving my own point now, but what I think I'm getting at, or at least trying to get at, is that I don't want to have to play specific decks to beat the meta, I don't want to have to play cards that ruin my consistency just to win games. I don't want to be the angry guy playing mystic mine, or the sad guy playing stun. I Don't wanna be the guy playing a butt-load of handtraps to stop everything my opponent does every turn, I don't wanna build a deck based purely around dealing with threats all the time just so I can have the satisfaction of finally winning a game. I want to be able to play the decks I want to play, as they were intended to be played. You can say that these are just the words of a salty yu-gi-oh player who needs to learn to get with the times and stop being stuck in the past, and you'd technically be right. But here's the thing. I'm not an old yugioh player. I'm basically brand new. I'm 22, and started playing this game online two years ago, and I already want to leave this game because of how terrible some of the people are and how unfair this game can be. I don't know if this has convinced some of you, or if there are even people who understand what I mean, but I hope you read all this drabble and at least hear my opinion.
I'm sorry but this feels like one of the worst formats I've played in some time, sure rogue decks have been stealing tops at various events, but the over-representation of Virtual World and Dryton being combo decks that end on auto-win floodgates is worse in my opinion than the buster lock (not saying I liked the buster lock but yeah), and maining cards to beat those strategies isn't feasible, because of the over-representation of Eldlich variants in all levels of play- so it just feels like a guaranteed loss game 1 against VFD or Ruler if you lose the die roll, unless you're playing exactly a trap deck that can survive it, which is why Eldlich is essentially the only option to play competitively, and the only reason certain decks top outside those is because with good hands they can survive a VFD or Ruler- so this format just locks you out of almost all mid-tier and combo strategies, and most control decks that aren't just set 5 traps pass
Yeah floodgates fun
The only things about this format I dont like are Zoo, VFD, Vanitys ruler and Halq
Bruh zoo is not that bad lmao. The just one pop and backrow/ handtrap. Even with zeus it just one card removal. U can prevent it easily by having card that pop before summoning it and zoo just pass the turn.
I think we need to get rid of 4 cards right now. After that we might have one of the best formats in a long time.
I truly believe that if those 4 cards are gone, we might get a format as iconic as DA, HAT or others.
So... youre not gonna mention those 4 cards?
Zaid Abu Saleem fine.
Halq, VFD, Dragunn, Union carrier are the ones that must go. VFD+ Dragunn because they are too strong payoffs and Halq and Carrier for enabling to many different degenerative combos. And if you don’t believe that Carrier belongs here, it’s just a matter of time. People are already abusing it with floaters like Dawn Knight or that fairies that searches 2 others.
@@frankwest5388 That's some very mediocre ideas for hits you have there.
1. Needlefiber doesn't enable a vast amount of degenerate plays anymore, now that Linkross has been banned. Very few decks even play it now.
2. The reason you put up VFD here is Virtual World, I'd assume.
That fixes next to nothing though. VW will just switch to handlooping 3-5 cards with Enterblathnir and Gottoms, which is objectively seen even worse than 2x VFD.
3. Banning Dragoon instead of the *only singular card* which makes it summonable in almost any deck (Verte Anaconda) makes literally no sense whatsoever.
User Halq has literally gotten 5 cards banned by now (sure Linkcross would probably ended up there sooner or later himself, but everything else is innocent). No card that does this much collateral damage, should be legal. Also, the second people get bored of VFD, we will see Halq decks again. It mainly doesn’t see play because people are sick of it. It can easily compete.
VFD: it’s a better mystic mine. The entire current format is all about playing around that stupid thing. Kill it.
Dragunn: just general bad card design. Has no weakness. While it doesn’t get as much play as people feared, it’s mere existence forces Konami to release cards as broken as droplet.
Union carrier: is already being abused in ways to was clearly not intended to and will only become more degenerate. It’s only a matter of time.
These are the most important hits. There are other cards that I think should go, like mine itself, but these are the ones ringing the game at the most consistent level for both competitive and casual players.
Imagine banning card that not even seen on meta. Like how konami ban toad and abc. Never ever ban something that not meta relevant . It is stupid. Give the card chance to shine on meta. Then you can freely do anything if it too busted
Went 2-0 against Dry using TD
I agree with this video, the format rn is really good (except for vw and dinos, playing against those is terrible).
Anyways, good video and keep up the good work!
Dino is a little bit overrated. Ash kill the deck, lancea just gg , floodgate in trap based is good againt dino , vfd , some sort macro cosmos. But yeah it is a good meta deck but not as unfair as other meta deck last format
just play traps 4head
also, vanity's is way more scary than vfd
Tru
There are so many viable decks!
"I hate 20 mins combo decks that take no skills and are just annoying, i prefer control decks"
*plays mystic mine*
People who say playing combo takes no skill are dumb. It takes skill memorize the combos, to get it with any hand and actually achieve it while playing through disruption.
No the best format is plunder patrol being top tier
All we have to do to make this the best format is ban vfd
Macro cosmos is a really good card this format
*arguably* A good format.
You’re either playing drytron or virtual world or your losing. Then you have VFD running rampant good format my butt
Also one hand trap stops drytron? Unless that hand trap droll they making a board every hand
Could you say this a little bit louder for the people in the back please? It's better than last format but that doesn't exactly make it good.
Playing against double calamities isn’t great
I agree fully with this!
However...
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Damn it
i mean sadly we dont have locals currently, like i had last format...but last format against dragon link and buster lock was far away from having fun. i hope we have locals again soon. i just want to have fun with salad and sky striker in this format.
TELL ME WHY AINT NOTHING BUT A HeARtAcHe
I am from Germany so get outplayed
I can still play my infernoble as a rogue deck so it's a good format!
Just u wait utopic zexal will rise from hell and ruin the format #banzexal
Zexal isn’t good this format because everything is trap decks
Nah I strongly disagree, with just a few little tweaks though it could be great. In my opinion anyways
In a nutshell; Ban VFD & Ben 10 and we will have the perfect format(I guess).
This format is simply, who ever plays vanity or VFD first wins, and I hate mystic mine. That card needs to be banned
meh still hate eldich
Yes
No it ain't.
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