Titanic history/Why didn't she Capsize?

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  • čas přidán 26. 10. 2020
  • This video discusses the unusual way the Titanic sank and why she never capsized.
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Komentáře • 186

  • @tprescott
    @tprescott Před 3 lety +118

    Coming from a ship building family and a long line of Engineers, The Olympic Class, like many other ships , had Fore & Aft Peak Tanks as well as trim tanks built into her hull to help stabilize the ships trim in bad weather as well as to raise or lower the ship in the water to reduce undesirable vertical motion in rough seas. Since none of the Engineering Crew survived, this can only be speculated upon, however, since Titanic did not Keel over due to the flooding compromising her Center of Gravity , it stands to reason that Joseph Bell and his Engineers were manually trimming the ship as best they could by pumping water into or out of the ships Trim Tanks to try to maintain as even a Keel as possible. This would not only prevent her from keeling over, but it would also help keep her list angle shallow enough to allow the boats to be lowered over her side even though the flooding in Scotland Road and the open D Deck door did make the lowering of at least 1 Starboard lifeboat rather difficult as it kept binding up on her hull as it was being lowered while boats on the port side swung about 3 feet out from the boat deck at one point. Still, all in all, if these theories are true, these men did everything they could right up to the end , to keep her afloat long enough to try to evacuate the passengers.

    • @MemeLab453
      @MemeLab453 Před 3 lety +2

      Mitty Wolf your amazing person for writing that

    • @DistractedGlobeGuy
      @DistractedGlobeGuy Před 3 lety +3

      That would also explain why the listing became so much worse around the time boat 14 was being lowered-right around the same time most of the engineering crew were relieved of their posts and made their way topside.

    • @davim1979
      @davim1979 Před 2 lety +3

      Were it not for the coal a lot more people would've died. Only a few lifeboats would've been able to launch. Absolute pandemonium would've happened cuz people would've known what was coming.

  • @nathan7627
    @nathan7627 Před 3 lety +61

    u do truly learn something every time u watch a titanic video. really curious to know what leaving that door open caused

    • @robinrobyn1714
      @robinrobyn1714 Před 3 lety +2

      Leaving a massive door opened caused massive additional flooding. It's extremely obvious.

    • @eugeniaskelley5194
      @eugeniaskelley5194 Před 3 lety +17

      @@robinrobyn1714 I think Nathan was talking about how much time that would of given the ship if it was closed.

    • @robinrobyn1714
      @robinrobyn1714 Před 3 lety

      @@eugeniaskelley5194 He asked what leaving the door open" caused". It caused massive additional flooding.

    • @paulbuscombe6844
      @paulbuscombe6844 Před 3 lety +3

      @@robinrobyn1714 I totally agree with you buddy

    • @alexjeffries5276
      @alexjeffries5276 Před 3 lety +1

      Think even a nautical novice can agree, it didn’t help 😅😭

  • @Tom--Ace
    @Tom--Ace Před 3 lety +22

    Has anyone run any simulations on the sinking if that port door had NOT been left open? Could she have lasted a few more hours, perhaps saving lives?

    • @GeezerVR
      @GeezerVR Před rokem

      They should

    • @trevorblue4531
      @trevorblue4531 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ''Absolutely, I say the door accelerated the sinking at least 30 minutes. Maybe even a hour.'' - Sam.

  • @jevinday
    @jevinday Před 3 lety +26

    You're smart as hell dude! I found your channel yesterday and I've been really, really enjoying it. Your knowledge and empathy will set you apart as a creator on CZcams in my opinion. Looking forward to more content from you.

  • @Katierogue
    @Katierogue Před 3 lety +2

    My Daddy was an engineer and had been in the Navy. He was FASCINATED by the Titanic sinking. If he was still here and saw this he would probably have emailed you with a bunch of calculations about the weight and moving it tot he other side of the ship.
    I ADORE your videos and the way you address the material. Ir reminds me of the way Joseph Ellis takes the first chapter of his boobs to get your brain around what life was like in say the 1770s (no roads, no mass communications, fastest way to spread news was a man on a fast horse)
    I'm looking forward to seeing more of them.
    Thank You for making these.

  • @vodka2432
    @vodka2432 Před 3 lety +14

    Your my favorite CZcams you explain things perfectly whenever I’m bored or feeling down I just find a video of yours and watch, and then I’m happy in seconds. I love your content, keep up the GREAT work!!!

  • @brianclaudio1942
    @brianclaudio1942 Před 3 lety +7

    Simply amazed how much I'm learning with your vids about the Titanic. And I've been reading and watching documentaries about the Titanic for like more than 20 years. Excellent job!

  • @TheHollowGHOST
    @TheHollowGHOST Před 3 lety +6

    Your channel is easily one of the best for Titanic info - you make info accessible and back it up with logic. Thank you for this! If you're not overwhelmed with ideas, would you consider doing a video on Carpathia? I feel she is a topic that's a major part of Titanic's story. 😊

  • @JLCosslett
    @JLCosslett Před 3 lety +50

    Wait, wait, wait... If the port door hadn't of been left open, would she have stayed afloat longer?
    You probably answer this in your more recent videos... *proceeds to next video*

    • @eugeniaskelley5194
      @eugeniaskelley5194 Před 3 lety +8

      Yah, I would like to know that too. I wonder how long she would of stayed afloat.

    • @destructionnl8165
      @destructionnl8165 Před 3 lety +8

      With the damage done by the iceberg it's allready quite amazing how long they have been able to keep it afloat.

    • @kostan55
      @kostan55 Před 3 lety +1

      This is what I believe:
      If the D deck door (the port door) was kept closed, the ship would not only sink slower, but it would also not develop a port list.

    • @taraswertelecki3786
      @taraswertelecki3786 Před 3 lety

      Yes, but the door being shut would have made no difference. It might have delayed the ship's demise by a minute or so, but doom was still the fate that befell Titanic and 1,500 souls.

    • @JLCosslett
      @JLCosslett Před 3 lety

      @@taraswertelecki3786 yea I know that. As I asked in my question I wondered how much longer she would stay afloat for. 5 mins? Half an hour? Etc etc

  • @Kshep84
    @Kshep84 Před 3 lety +12

    The gangway door opening was a dumb idea.... they would only be able to load the one lifeboat above the door!

    • @DistractedGlobeGuy
      @DistractedGlobeGuy Před 3 lety +2

      Lightoller had a lot of bad ideas.
      He was also the one who put six passengers, six crew members, and a dog in a boat built with 65 seats. Lowe went back to bed after Boxhall told him to get out on-deck; Boxhall had no idea where the ship was or what direction she was facing; Boxhall and Rowe couldn't figure out what the lights they saw off the port bow were doing. As a whole, the officers were panicking and acting seriously unprofessional that night. From reading their legal testimonies, one definitely gets the impression that such appallingly careless, sloppy work was the norm back then-not just at White Star, but throughout the shipping industry.

  • @tdecker2937
    @tdecker2937 Před 3 lety +6

    Super unfortunate that in the chaos of those final hours, someone did not think or remember to close that huge door. Who knows how much longer she could’ve survived, perhaps long enough for help to arrive? Maybe not… But, they would’ve had more time to launch those last couple of boats, one of which capsized.

    • @trevorblue4531
      @trevorblue4531 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ''Absolutely, I say the door accelerated the sinking at least 30 minutes. Maybe even a hour.'' - Sam.

  • @georgehoward954
    @georgehoward954 Před 3 lety

    Just great! Keep up the fantastic work!
    I am learning something more about the Titanic everytime I watch one of your videos.

  • @busterburn5659
    @busterburn5659 Před 3 lety +1

    Guy every time I come back your subs are rising by thousands. Good job !

  • @Blu3_SK33
    @Blu3_SK33 Před 3 lety

    Great info great video!

  • @michaelwride7842
    @michaelwride7842 Před 3 lety

    Thank you for this video, I am learning so much from your channel..

  • @Auta5tic
    @Auta5tic Před 3 lety +10

    I think another reason that the ship listed to port is because of Scotland Road

    • @trevorblue4531
      @trevorblue4531 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ''Scotland Road played a crucial role during the sinking. Being a long and uninterrupted corridor, water managed to freely flow down the large hallway during the sinking. The water reached the gangway at about 1:00 A.M. Numerous staircases allowed the water access to F-Deck, where it breached compartments containing the Swimming Pool, Turkish Bath, Third Class Galley, and Third Class Dining Room. From there, water would flow down into the boiler rooms below. It was this progressive spilling over the watertight bulkheads that would ultimately doom the ship. Since Scotland Road provided water such easy access along the port side of the ship, the more it flooded, the more the balance of the ship shifted to port. She had a starboard list, but after 1:00 A.M, this was countered and she started to list to port 15 to 20 minutes later. The port list increased gradually to 9 degrees until 2:07 A.M, when the water spilled over the Boat Deck. This heavy port list also allowed water to flow even further aft along Scotland Road, accelerating the final stages of the sinking.''

  • @yogabelajoel
    @yogabelajoel Před 2 měsíci

    Nicely done 😊

  • @Tom--Ace
    @Tom--Ace Před 3 lety +4

    I would say the reason the ship developed a starboard list shortly after impact, only to reach even keel again later, was actually because the wall of the boiler room no 5 coal bunker, which had held back water as you mentioned in an earlier video, gave way. Once it gave way, the water that had collected ONLY in the coal bunker of boiler room no 5 now flooded the entire boiler room, redistributing the weight and causing the ship to reach closer to even keel again. Just a theory ;)

  • @jetsons101
    @jetsons101 Před 3 lety

    Another great watch........

  • @davidkraft314
    @davidkraft314 Před 3 lety +2

    Neat thing is, when you speed up the animation from Titanic honor and glory, you can actually see the ship rolling over so it forms the list from the coal.

  • @brendakrieger7000
    @brendakrieger7000 Před 3 lety

    Always excellent talking points points🚢

  • @anderson357
    @anderson357 Před 3 lety +2

    Amazing history. You should do biggest liner disaster where up to 6000 died. Gustov Willhelm.

  • @IsaacNg28
    @IsaacNg28 Před 3 lety

    Never knew this before, thank you

  • @CraftyLad
    @CraftyLad Před 3 lety +1

    nice!

  • @littlemidwestrebornsdolls

    I learn something new with each video I watch.

  • @greenjack6950
    @greenjack6950 Před 3 lety

    Just saw a documentary on the fire thing. Thx for explaing it better.

  • @Vincent5482
    @Vincent5482 Před 2 lety

    best youtuber

  • @busterburn5659
    @busterburn5659 Před 3 lety +1

    Oh wow. Laurence Beasley was my second class character in titanic the musical! In third class I was in a nameless Swedish family. And first class I was dancing the latest rag and first class diner!

  • @reshamdas1013
    @reshamdas1013 Před 3 lety

    You are great... Love form India..keep going....

  • @abisspassenger
    @abisspassenger Před 3 lety +1

    I also believe that the biggest reason for the ship no capsizing was the water tight compartments, because they kinda controledcontrolled the sinking. They allowed the water inflow to happens at stages, each compartment was one of these stages. Since they were distributed along te ship, the next empty one would only start to flood once the one before had already been full of water. Had they not existed, or had too many portholes been left open as it was with Britannic, which in fact demonstrates this dynamic because that ship listed very heavily to starboard. There was just to much water coming from only side of the ship alongside the hull. Now, on the Titanic the safe compartments of the ship only began to flood after the breached ones were full. Its listing only increased later during the sinking due to the stupid action of opening the gang way door, and the location of Scotland Road, both of them on the left side of the ship. In any case, Titanic stands as a very particular sinking, different than any other. One in which wrong decisions and extreme bad luck contributed to doom the ship, but once the damage was done, the personal sacrifice of a few and the characteristics of the ship contributed for it to stay afloat as long as it was humanly possible.

  • @scottpool4777
    @scottpool4777 Před 3 lety +1

    That’s something I did not know the coal yes it makes sense now definitely.

  • @shakesrj1
    @shakesrj1 Před 3 lety

    You may already have a video regarding this, I'm not sure but it would be really interesting to listen to how the engine order telepgraph system worked on Titanic.

  • @JLTruRodYT
    @JLTruRodYT Před 8 měsíci +1

    The ship did return to an even keel at the last stages of the sinking, and never trust what L. Beesley said or what the Honor and Glory team said before 2023!

  • @falcon664
    @falcon664 Před 3 lety

    Another contributing factor was that Titanic was built with Transverse bulkheads only. That the coal bunker was flooding did change the list is true, but the bunker and all other areas that were taking on water were not sealed. Since water seeks its own level, it was bound to flow across to the port side. For example, Cargo Holds 2 and 3 had a pipe tunnel running their length which retained water on the starboard side contributing to the list. Once the water was higher then the tunnel it would lap over to the port side and fill that space. In addition, the ship did not have longitudinal bulkheads. If she had, the water would have been contained on the starboard side and the list would have been more severe. Note that all the watertight doors were closed from the bridge and each needed to be opened manually. That would have applied to doors in a longitudinal bulkhead as well, the doors would have had to been opened to even the water level.

  • @oliversherman2414
    @oliversherman2414 Před rokem +1

    Titanic might have floated a little longer if that door was closed

    • @trevorblue4531
      @trevorblue4531 Před 3 měsíci +2

      ''Absolutely, I say the door accelerated the sinking at least 30 minutes. Maybe even a hour.'' - Sam.

  • @alexanderhausladen5737
    @alexanderhausladen5737 Před 3 lety +4

    Would the iceberg damage have been less if the Titanic had a slight list to starboard instead of to port?

  • @bsn2ndsflatdavis378
    @bsn2ndsflatdavis378 Před 3 lety +6

    Funny how the movie doesn’t show the list. But it would have been a tricky thing to add on to a stage set. It would be interesting to do a video comparing the Titanic movies . Night to Remember vs James Cameron Titanic.

    • @hatesm6135
      @hatesm6135 Před 3 lety

      It was a movie.

    • @ghost307
      @ghost307 Před 3 lety +1

      @@hatesm6135 That movie also had absolutely nothing to do with the Titanic. That same movie could have been done anywhere...even on a apace station.

    • @bensmall6548
      @bensmall6548 Před 3 lety

      That’s how they thought titanic sank at the time. The new sinking theory was created in 2012.

    • @trevorblue4531
      @trevorblue4531 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Series comparing the movies' has been made!

  • @RoyJMartin
    @RoyJMartin Před 3 lety +2

    This topic (the coal fire actually helping to keep balance) has litherally been on my mind for years!! Thank you for sharing your knowledge & theories! How do you believe the break up happened? (From the buckling keel up, ripping from expantion joint down... or everything kina at once? Do you believe in Roy Mengots theory?)

  • @brianbrian4317
    @brianbrian4317 Před 3 lety

    I have to ask because I’m so impressed and you’re knowledge is amazing... how old are you?

  • @M_Man4409
    @M_Man4409 Před 3 lety +1

    Hello ima watch your corer with great interest

  • @Whatatwist2009
    @Whatatwist2009 Před 3 lety +3

    I wonder if that door had not been left open how much longer the titanic stays afloat? Likely not that much longer but still interesting to know what the estimates are.

    • @trevorblue4531
      @trevorblue4531 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ''Absolutely, I say the door accelerated the sinking at least 30 minutes. Maybe even a hour.'' - Sam.

  • @Nimblets
    @Nimblets Před 2 lety

    I LOVE your videos i'd love a video about what happened to the life boats after the sinking did they go to other ships? where all of them found?

    • @trevorblue4531
      @trevorblue4531 Před 3 měsíci +1

      A few were set adrift, but most were taken aboard Carpathia 2 NY, and were then reused on other ships, or scrapped!

  • @skyptogames4917
    @skyptogames4917 Před 3 lety

    I watch these videos everyday whatever u want to learn about the titanic he has already talked about

  • @phillipsimon7903
    @phillipsimon7903 Před 3 lety

    My LEGO titanic model just split right at the mast

  • @Sweetheart2_
    @Sweetheart2_ Před 3 lety

    I was today years old when I found out about the coal fire (2/10/21)

  • @vipraz119
    @vipraz119 Před 3 lety

    My thoughts were.. could the outcome be different should the coal were evenly distributed? Maybe the angle of the iceberg impact etc could’ve be less damaging to the hull ?

  • @kittenheels1958
    @kittenheels1958 Před 3 lety

    Nice background music... for this unfortunate topic.

  • @kaeltiger5891
    @kaeltiger5891 Před 3 lety

    What is the name of the piano backdrop you're using in this video?

  • @MrJeep75
    @MrJeep75 Před 3 lety

    Do a video on the life boats

  • @chikisingh3144
    @chikisingh3144 Před 3 lety

    I was just curious. I have seen plenty of videos talkin bout water weight and ship weight and all. But what made me curious was the people clinging on the stern ...wouldnt that effect in ny way? Or its so less of weight comparative that its negligible to consider and also the loss from the weight of losin life boats and many people with those..🤔just curious if we have to see all these things. Does it effect sinking style?

  • @wwesmackdownvsraw
    @wwesmackdownvsraw Před 3 lety

    Have you ever considered on doing a video of Olympic & Titanic's sister Britannic on how she sank and some video's of Olympic with her collisions with HMS Hawke Nantucket??

  • @pinklightninggacha
    @pinklightninggacha Před 2 lety

    Well the pumps were running until the power went out they would have helped stabilise her

  • @CaptoftheHaggister
    @CaptoftheHaggister Před rokem

    I wonder. If it had a even keel. If it wasn't listing. Do you think they could have made the turn faster? Maybe have not hit the iceburg at all?

  • @elixergolem8075
    @elixergolem8075 Před 2 lety

    i am not good at this but wasn't there a corridor at the port side of the ship called "Scotland road" i´m just wondering if that might have played a role in the list to port?

    • @trevorblue4531
      @trevorblue4531 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ''Scotland Road played a crucial role during the sinking. Being a long and uninterrupted corridor, water managed to freely flow down the large hallway during the sinking. The water reached the gangway at about 1:00 A.M. Numerous staircases allowed the water access to F-Deck, where it breached compartments containing the Swimming Pool, Turkish Bath, Third Class Galley, and Third Class Dining Room. From there, water would flow down into the boiler rooms below. It was this progressive spilling over the watertight bulkheads that would ultimately doom the ship. Since Scotland Road provided water such easy access along the port side of the ship, the more it flooded, the more the balance of the ship shifted to port. She had a starboard list, but after 1:00 A.M, this was countered and she started to list to port 15 to 20 minutes later. The port list increased gradually to 9 degrees until 2:07 A.M, when the water spilled over the Boat Deck. This heavy port list also allowed water to flow even further aft along Scotland Road, accelerating the final stages of the sinking.''

  • @joedavenport5293
    @joedavenport5293 Před 3 lety +4

    If Titanic did roll over to starboard would it have still broken apart or gone down in one piece?

    • @12pagani
      @12pagani Před 3 lety

      Based on the britanic sinking it might have stayed in one piece if she simply keeled over and sank

  • @Boypogikami132
    @Boypogikami132 Před 3 lety

    I really thought that listing=turning. So I thought that titanic did this equation (port list=turning to port)

  • @charlieb3204
    @charlieb3204 Před 3 lety +1

    I suppose 2 questions if the door had been left closed how much longer would the ship have survived also did the port list effect the life boat loaring?

    • @trevorblue4531
      @trevorblue4531 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ''Absolutely, I say the door accelerated the sinking at least 30 minutes. Maybe even a hour.'' - Sam.

  • @Kshep84
    @Kshep84 Před 3 lety

    Didnt the crew adjust the list after the fire?

  • @nathanbond8165
    @nathanbond8165 Před 3 lety

    There's something else you didn't mention in the video but a side effect from the watertight compartments although they weren't watertight but baffles will say watertight bulkheads is that I'm like a ship that had no watertight bulkheads or compartments that would allow water to flood completely into the Hall these watertight baffles just like an ice tray if you take an ice tray and you turn the tap onto one of the cubes in the tray it first must completely fill up and once it fills up then it spills over to its neighbors Trey and fills up a compartment so the water type baffles or bulkheads in the Titanic did the same thing each compartment had to First completely flood before then it would spill over into its neighboring compartment this forced the front or the BAL of the ship to flood evenly first before spilling over into a higher up compartment further down the ship so it the watertight bulkheads restricted the movement of the water and forced each section of the ship to completely flood in the Bible before going to the next compartment there for giving stability to the flooding instead of allowing water to just go wherever it wants to in the hall in a traditional Hall that doesn't have watertight compartments if there's a breach on port or starboard side water will pour into that side of the hall and will begin to flow through that side of the hall and flood that side of the hall first the spooling the ship towards where the flooding is and we know that the top-heavy superstructure of the ship as it gets pulled to list to that side of the ship it reaches a point where the top of the ship is heavier than the bottom and that causes the ship to flip or capsize and roll over onto it and show it scale but the reason why the Titanic didn't capsize is because of the watertight bulkheads and it forced the ship to flood stabili and completely

  • @nathanbond8165
    @nathanbond8165 Před 3 lety +1

    By the way you can test this for yourself I've seen many videos and simulations people build models of the Titanic put in the watertight compartments and then simulate the damage of the iceberg and the model does not capsize as well the model sinks almost exactly the way the Titanic suck so really the reason why she didn't capsize was the watertight bulkheads are baffles that really restricted the flooding and forced each compartment to completely flood first before spilling into its adjacent compartment the stabilizing the weight distribution inside the hall

    • @nathanbond8165
      @nathanbond8165 Před rokem

      @@user-lv7ph7hs7l you're right Britannic was the most upgraded safest ship of all three and yet she sunk in less than an hour now it's always been assumed that the mine did all the damage to Britannic however in the '60s when Jacques Cousteau found the Britannic wreck he had a different impression he found a very large hole blown onto the other side of the ship blown outward indicating that there was explosives or Munitions in her cargo hold that blew up and caused the Fatal blow to Britannic there are other ships throughout history that have hit minds and they didn't sink as fast as Britannic some of them survived for hours maybe days before finally succumbing to their damage a mind just doesn't have the kind of explosive power to completely gut a ship like that only explosives or perhaps a boiler explosion could cause that kind of internal damage so was Britannic like Lusitania carrying more than just hospital patients was she a legitimate military Target did she have Munitions secretly in her cargo hold? Jacques Cousteau seems to think she did

  • @hollywalker3726
    @hollywalker3726 Před rokem

    How food was stored and prepared on the Titanic.

  • @lukemilner5885
    @lukemilner5885 Před 3 lety

    I do agree with what you say about the coal fire, something which I do find intriguing. However, I don't agree with your statement that the Titanic never recovered from her port list. The reason why I say that is because Colonel Gracie stated in his book which he wrote after surviving the disaster that the forward funnel collapsed towards the Starboard side (something which is inaccurately portrayed in many Titanic media by showing it collapsing towards the port side, including James Cameron's animations and the real-time sinking animation by Titanic HG). I also know that 2nd Officer Lightoller described the forward funnel collapsing towards him near the upturned Collapsible B, (which was stationed on the port side originally) but Collapsible B had drifted over towards the starboard side before the funnel collapsed. Therefore, if the ship was listing heavily to port and never recovered, how did the forward funnel collapse towards starboard?
    There are also observations which say that before the final plunge began, the forward end of the boat deck rose up after an explosion was heard from deep within the ship and a column of smoke rising from one of the funnels, as described by some survivors, which could indicate the port list had levelling out. Just to be clear, I don't agree with Aaron1912's sinking scenario which sees the ship splitting in the V-shaped direction, which he came up with using survivors accounts of the bow rising up.
    But on the whole, I hadn't thought about the coal fire helping the ship stay upright. That was a good observation. I do also agree with the statements made about the engineers, who would have no doubt stayed below to keep the pumps running, which would also have kept the ship from capsizing.

    • @HistoricTravels
      @HistoricTravels  Před 3 lety

      Hello, and thanks for the comment! I am more pro to think the Titanic never recovered from the port list due to Charles Joughin testimony. He talked about how in the ships final moments it rolled to port after the break up and he was able to walk on the ships starboard side wall cause as the Titanic final plunge began it rolled completely on its side before going vertical. He said he was standing ontop of the ships portholes and rode it down like a elevator. As far as the funnels go, the first funnel I believe completely fell due to the water influencing the funnel causing it to move and putting more strain on it then the support cables around it could hold. The first funnel fell completely by gravity on the Titanic port side, the way she was listing. Now for the second funnel, I believe it fell more to starboard due to Jack Thayer testimony. He said the second funnel fell in a ball of sparks and fire. So this is just a theory but I believe boiler room 4/3 that fed the second funnel were still pressurized and when the funnel began to flood and water hit thoes boilers it caused a small explosion that lifted the second funnel slightly and threw it to starboard. I dont think it was a massive detonation but it goes with what Jack Thayer said he saw. I know boiler room 4 didnt flood until 2am (20 min before Titanic sank), so its possible boiler room 3 was more or less completely active when the second began to go under. It wouldnt have full pressure but it would still be active. Now as far as the V-shape break up I completely disagree to that, I have herd a theory that what the survivors thought they saw that made people think the v-break could of happened was the sections of the grand staircase that floated out after stairs went under. Interesting theory. No proof but still possible. Hope this helps :) thanks for the message.

  • @DJJumpdancer
    @DJJumpdancer Před 3 lety

    i think that the titanic would have been able to avoid the iceberg if they did not put the engine in reverse and stop and just keep it in forward and swerve because then it would be able to turn quicker

  • @fastfoodchickennuggets3271

    Titanic could have capsized if it never broke in half. It might have capsized like Britannic did with the stern up in the air.

  • @calebenglish6016
    @calebenglish6016 Před 3 lety

    Are they going to actually make a replica titanic? (Titanic 2)

  • @randomstufliker2
    @randomstufliker2 Před 3 lety

    Given all this information, here’s a video idea. What if the Titanic sustained the same amount of damage but on the port side instead?

  • @robinrobyn1714
    @robinrobyn1714 Před 3 lety +4

    You should do a video on Morgan Robertson's book," Futility", and it's eerie coincidence's with the sinking of the Royal Mail Ship," Titanic".

  • @ericneill7884
    @ericneill7884 Před 3 lety

    I wonder what would have happened if they tried throwing the ship into reverse? While it was already taking on water. I also wonder about Britannica and if that ship was thrown in reverse while taking on water? Would this have given them more time? How fast could the ship go in reverse? Maybe it would stop the water from coming in if they could go fast enough? Maybe even start to drain it if it could maintain full steam in reverse?

    • @volpeverde6441
      @volpeverde6441 Před rokem

      doesn't work like that....
      air pressure verses water pressure....
      a hole's a hole....

  • @Xantylon74
    @Xantylon74 Před 2 lety

    Strange, coal is lighter than water and didn't the water have access to the port side too? In the end, was the door opened with the intention of not tipping over? Would it have sunk much slower if they had never opened that door?

    • @trevorblue4531
      @trevorblue4531 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ''Absolutely, I say the door accelerated the sinking at least 30 minutes. Maybe even a hour.'' - Sam.

  • @eric555cuevas
    @eric555cuevas Před 3 lety

    What if the carpathia was 25 miles away

  • @FAAMAN841
    @FAAMAN841 Před 3 lety

    Please educate me here. All of the videos I have seen about the Titanic sinking are possibly not in agreement with you about this video,
    '' Why Didn't She Capsize?'' Since the coal fire was impossible to extinguish with water, as water would immediately turn to steam, it was said the only way that the coal bunker which was on fire could be controlled or at least limited, was to shovel the said burning coal into the furnaces. Your video is the first I heard that the coal was actually moved to the port side. How would the crew be able to move red-hot coals to the port side? What am I missing here...? Thanks.

    • @trevorbluesquirrel899
      @trevorbluesquirrel899 Před 2 lety +3

      ''In order to fight the fire, the stokers had been shoveling the burning coal into furnaces to burn the fire away. The stokers had been shoveling coal into the furnaces nonstop for three days fighting the fire.''

  • @jeffmckay2268
    @jeffmckay2268 Před 3 lety

    why do you do sam the andra doria

  • @CoreDaEpic
    @CoreDaEpic Před 2 lety

    i do wonder how titanic didnt just fall over and capsize when the stern was full on vertical. or am i dumb...

    • @trevorblue4531
      @trevorblue4531 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Further research has led 2 other sinking theories, it's unlikely the stern sunk fully vertical!

  • @rafiqstarline
    @rafiqstarline Před 2 lety

    If that gangway door
    Was never open
    The ship might capsize
    And it might kill more people
    If it did

  • @basicyapper697
    @basicyapper697 Před 3 lety

    How much time do you think the open door took away from the titanic?

    • @trevorblue4531
      @trevorblue4531 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ''Absolutely, I say the door accelerated the sinking at least 30 minutes. Maybe even a hour.'' - Sam.

  • @KiwiKiwf
    @KiwiKiwf Před 3 lety

    What about the ship returning to an even keel when water reached the bridge, many people also said and saw the bow taking a noticeable plunge and looked like as if she seemed to rise.

    • @HistoricTravels
      @HistoricTravels  Před 3 lety

      What seemed to rise? The stern?

    • @KiwiKiwf
      @KiwiKiwf Před 3 lety

      @@HistoricTravels the bridge area when she returned to an even keel.

    • @HistoricTravels
      @HistoricTravels  Před 3 lety +2

      @@KiwiKiwf It would of when boiler room 5 flooded. The Titanic would appear to lift up slightly, but then the D deck Gangway door went under and made her list to port.

    • @KiwiKiwf
      @KiwiKiwf Před 3 lety +1

      @@HistoricTravels Thanks for answering my question ^^

    • @eugeniaskelley5194
      @eugeniaskelley5194 Před 3 lety

      @@HistoricTravels Why would it appear to rise after room 5 flooded?

  • @walterlangston4253
    @walterlangston4253 Před 3 lety

    if the port holl door or windows had not been open wonder if the titanic would have toke longer to sank

    • @trevorblue4531
      @trevorblue4531 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ''Absolutely, I say the door accelerated the sinking at least 30 minutes. Maybe even a hour.'' - Sam.

  • @Kerbal18
    @Kerbal18 Před 3 lety

    What would have happened if that door was never opened? would it be more like how it sank in the movie?

    • @HistoricTravels
      @HistoricTravels  Před 3 lety +1

      When Scotland road flooded it would of still developed a list but how much is the question and how much longer would it of taken.

  • @vequiera
    @vequiera Před 3 lety

    Do you think if the D-Deck door had remained closed the ship could have stayed afloat for longer?

    • @cheery-hex
      @cheery-hex Před 3 lety +3

      he made a vid on this and from what I rmbr it was a big yes

    • @trevorblue4531
      @trevorblue4531 Před 3 měsíci +2

      ''Absolutely, I say the door accelerated the sinking at least 30 minutes. Maybe even a hour.'' - Sam.

  • @knoxklay11
    @knoxklay11 Před rokem

    Do you think the ship would have sank as quickly/sank at all if that gangway door was shut? Or was she doomed anyway and closing the door wouldve only given her a few more minutes of life?

    • @trevorblue4531
      @trevorblue4531 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ''Absolutely, I say the door accelerated the sinking at least 30 minutes. Maybe even a hour.'' - Sam.

    • @knoxklay11
      @knoxklay11 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@trevorblue4531oh oops i mustve missed that part lol. Thanks!

    • @trevorblue4531
      @trevorblue4531 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@knoxklay11 He didn't say it in the vid, he left it in a comment below!

  • @claytonkeates2614
    @claytonkeates2614 Před 2 lety

    I love your channel. I really do. But I've noticed you tend to present artistic expression (film and illustration) as examples of points of proof. You simply can't do that. Nor do I think you need to. You're obviously very dedicated and talented. You simply cannot use artistic rendering, as in "pictures" and you most certainly can't use them as proof of your hypothesis. I support your channel and have no doubt you'll grow. And I'll be happy to watch. Just some constructive criticism. Love the content!

    • @trevorblue4531
      @trevorblue4531 Před 3 měsíci +1

      They've been made after extensive research!

  • @CrispyMOFO91
    @CrispyMOFO91 Před 3 lety

    You think the coal could still be in her coal bunkers? Or do you think it would have eroded away by now?

  • @danieldoo1821
    @danieldoo1821 Před 3 lety

    * Me sees title " Why didn't she capsize ? "
    Let me guess,.
    A ship that big weighs a gazillion tons correct ?
    Plus, she flooded quickly.
    So....the ship's entire weight + the water keeps flooding the ship, bringing the bow down, deeper into the ocean...
    Impossible for her to capsize.
    It's why the bow section just kept going deeper under the water level, until the pressure got too much and the ship broke between the 3rd and 4th funnels.

  • @justinthyme5730
    @justinthyme5730 Před 3 lety

    Why didn't the passengers enquire about the list?

  • @rabbidlobo
    @rabbidlobo Před 3 lety

    What's your take on the Titanic switch theory? I'm sure you have heard of it. Definitely subscribing, great work from a fellow Titanic enthusiast.

  • @kennethsteele1549
    @kennethsteele1549 Před 3 lety

    Do you think more people would of been saved if climb on the iceburg Matt uk

    • @robinrobyn1714
      @robinrobyn1714 Před 3 lety +1

      They never would have had time. The iceberg was long gone by the time anyone tried to abandon ship. Furthermore, icebergs are very unstable, making them very dangerous. They can,in an instant, flip or topple.

    • @trevorblue4531
      @trevorblue4531 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Vid's been made!

  • @antbaxter123
    @antbaxter123 Před 3 lety

    Could she of stayed afloat longer if the water tight doors weren't closed?

  • @Johnathan04
    @Johnathan04 Před 3 lety

    When I heard about the whole titanic switch theory I never understood why some of the Titanic’s passengers claimed she had a list to her port side even though she was brand new (which was used as evidence that the titanic was switched since Olympic was damaged) but now knowing that it was because of the coal fire it all makes sense.

  • @robertmiller1109
    @robertmiller1109 Před 3 lety

    However titanic animations does not believe a fire happened but more of burnt coal fell on the floor

    • @sledgehammerk35
      @sledgehammerk35 Před 3 lety +3

      When they say coal fire, they don’t mean an actual raging fire. Titanic Animations is correct in what he’s said. If I would put any term on it, the word I’d use would be smoldering.

  • @CaelanWrig21
    @CaelanWrig21 Před 3 lety

    Ok guys to let you all know you know how the 1958 movie it didn't split ye right BC they didn't find the wreck but wouldn't real PASSENGERS of told them hm so what of she split underwater BC of the pressure

  • @MrJeep75
    @MrJeep75 Před 3 lety +1

    So stupid they left the gangway door open, you think it would of lasted longer if it wasn't opened?

    • @HistoricTravels
      @HistoricTravels  Před 3 lety +1

      Absolutely, I say the door accelerated the sinking at least 30 minutes. Maybe even a hour.

  • @michaelmcdonnell3905
    @michaelmcdonnell3905 Před 3 lety

    The listing back and forward to starboard to port probably created the V break theory.

  • @nathanbond8165
    @nathanbond8165 Před 3 lety

    I hate to quibble with your coal analysis that it was the weight of the coal that counter balance the flooding water weighs way more than coal and within minutes of the hall flooding the weight of that seawater would have overbalanced the weight of the coal in her bunker or one of her bunkers the coal fire was in one of the coal bunkers so they had moved some of the coal over there's no way in hell that the weight of that coal could have equaled the thousands of tons of water that was pouring into the ship every minute that counterbalance would have been neutralized within 10 minutes of striking the iceberg. scientifically the explanation for why the ship didn't capsize was the unique way that she flooded because of the water baffles or watertight bulkheads that were placed in the ship that forced each compartment to completely flood evenly thus evenly Distributing the weight of the water inside the hull and that's why she's sunk evenly all the way to the very end no watertight compartments inside the Titanic she would have capsized within 20 minutes and computer models and actual bottles have proven this they have built actual scale models of the Titanic and sunk with watertight compartments and then without and without watertight compartments it was estimated that she would have capsized within 20 minutes of striking the iceberg the damage was that severe to the hull

  • @patrickhorvath2684
    @patrickhorvath2684 Před 3 lety

    So what started the coal fire ?

    • @Dizzy19.
      @Dizzy19. Před 3 lety

      Spontaneous combustion.

    • @patrickhorvath2684
      @patrickhorvath2684 Před 3 lety

      @@Dizzy19.
      The coal itself or a stoker?

    • @Dizzy19.
      @Dizzy19. Před 3 lety +1

      @@patrickhorvath2684 Coal dust is extremely combustible, has a tendency to catch fire all on it's own.

  • @Titanicdork133
    @Titanicdork133 Před 3 lety

    It annoys me how wrong the film got the sinking

  • @karenflanagan1961
    @karenflanagan1961 Před rokem

    ? To big & or wide but it's opinion & no engineering buy no means . But I don't think the Titanic was well built as advertised.

  • @TheTarget1980
    @TheTarget1980 Před 3 lety

    It is a little problematic to use the screenshots of Honor and Glory as evidence. They are good for illustration, but only the sources, the testimonys, are a reliable source.

    • @trevorblue4531
      @trevorblue4531 Před 3 měsíci +1

      They've been made after extensive research!

  • @JD-di5qp
    @JD-di5qp Před 3 lety

    If everyone on board would have chewed a piece of gum they could’ve plug that hole