Reddit is Destroying Itself

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  • čas přidán 29. 05. 2024
  • So much happened this week! After talking about a grab bag of news, Andrew and David take turns explaining what exactly is going on with Reddit and the Apollo app. Then they go over some changes with the CZcams monetization program that makes it easier for new creators to become partners. Finally, we wrap it all up with trivia. Enjoy!
    Chapters
    00:00 Intro
    00:47 Volvo EX30
    06:05 New Prius
    09:02 Blue Microphones is no more
    11:40 Twitch controversy
    22:36 Trivia question
    23:54 Ad break
    23:56 Reddit news
    01:07:00 Trivia question
    01:07:29 Ad break
    01:07:31 CZcams changes monetization requirements
    01:19:34 Trivia answers
    01:22:32 Outro
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Komentáře • 584

  • @tommoex
    @tommoex Před 11 měsíci +1215

    I wish more people did talk about the Reddit issue, as it will just become a trend of companies killing off third party related products and it's not good for consumers.

    • @danieltrias2518
      @danieltrias2518 Před 11 měsíci

      I'll be deleting my Reddit account.
      Bad decisions and bad culture ALWAYS start at the top.
      Elon comes along and makes it ok to steamroll people and all the other "brilliant" and "forward-thinkng" CEOs are like, 'monkey see, monkey do'.
      Bravo.

    • @toptiertech7291
      @toptiertech7291 Před 11 měsíci +16

      Then maybe those API companies should make their own platform. It’s costing the company money to let you run through an API

    • @VanisherXP
      @VanisherXP Před 11 měsíci +18

      @@toptiertech7291 You mean it's actually saving the company money by actually implementing the features they don't? You know that if those users were not calling the APi they would be calling the services directly, right? If anything, an API service is much less data and requests than directly accessing a service.

    • @toptiertech7291
      @toptiertech7291 Před 11 měsíci +13

      @@VanisherXP you know that when you use the service directly you get things like Ad revenue right? All those ads you see while scrolling down the Reddit app and website? They get paid for that. If people are using APIs they don’t get the same views on that ad which could hurt how much the receive. There’s a reason Twitter did it first

    • @W1SEthat
      @W1SEthat Před 11 měsíci +5

      It's always running a risk making an app that's fully dependent on another company, but still Reddit really could've handled this A LOT better.

  • @Rea13434O
    @Rea13434O Před 11 měsíci +176

    25:44 in the age of internet where SEO has taken over, Reddit is so invaluable. During the blackout I really realized how many useful reddit posts I can’t see(details abt a concert venue, my Twitter bookmarks not working, etc. I used Reddit semi-regular for like two years, and over the past few days have learned a lot about the platform. The fact they didn’t have an official app till 2016 and all their moderators are sub volunteers like other sms that post people is wild!! It’s really sad because it’s become the home of a lot of niches and community information. I saved hundreds of dollars & gained for much perspective from ACTUAL students from my university’s subreddit the summer before I transferred. I hope the blackouts impact their business to enough to listen to users.

    • @toptiertech7291
      @toptiertech7291 Před 11 měsíci +1

      It won’t. Because they’ll remove mods and reopen before they lose money

    • @MeshMN
      @MeshMN Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@toptiertech7291 If they have ANY hope for a successful IPO, they need this to go away now - the longer it festers, the more Reddit sinks into oblivion - I know I wont use Reddit while this CEO is still in charge ...

    • @TheDuzx
      @TheDuzx Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@toptiertech7291 There isn't enough volunteer hours available to moderate a lot of the larger subs without the help of 3rd party tools. So even if they remove the mods and give someone else mod privliges they're not going to be able to moderate the sub according to Reddit's sub moderation standard so the subs will just be banned or unmoderated. Neither senario is a good one for Reddit.
      It's actually facinating because Reddit has over the years made more and more rules for how subs need to be moderated which has made the user experience really great, but they've never provided mods with the tools needed to moderate subs according to those rules. Most communities that have been around for 5 years or more have done all nighters to make/configure 3rd party tools to moderate their community in accordance to new rules just because they're so passionate about the commuity and don't want to see it dissapear.

  • @ScottLoucks
    @ScottLoucks Před 11 měsíci +123

    I can't believe you guys didn't make this episode 8 seconds longer... 1:23:45

    • @MojeZycieWSkrocie
      @MojeZycieWSkrocie Před 11 měsíci

      care to elaborate?

    • @ScottLoucks
      @ScottLoucks Před 11 měsíci +30

      ​@@MojeZycieWSkrocieThe length is 1:23:37 when they could've made it 1:23:45... 12345. I definitely don't have OCD 🥴

    • @MojeZycieWSkrocie
      @MojeZycieWSkrocie Před 11 měsíci +6

      @@ScottLoucks ahahahaa! Yeah I feel you bro. 😄

    • @AMonitorDarkly
      @AMonitorDarkly Před 11 měsíci +6

      “. . . and our into/outro music was created by Vain Sssssiiiiiiiiiiiiilllllllll”

    • @MS7.7
      @MS7.7 Před 11 měsíci +4

      1:23:37
      3+3 = 6
      3+3+2 = 8
      3+3+2-1 = 7
      We are left with two 7s = 77
      If you add zero Inbetween it will be 707 which is Boeing airplane that was lost in Bermuda that's why biden loves ice-cream and winter is coming.

  • @vinny5915
    @vinny5915 Před 11 měsíci +332

    As a first-party Reddit app user, I was not too concerned about the other apps. However, after the Reddit CEO attemped to scape-goat the Apollo dev, then double down on it, and the how disrepectful he was toward the people in the blackout, I will wait another week (without going on Reddit) to see if there is any chances in their tone, if not then I will just going to delete my account.

    • @pyrofestimo
      @pyrofestimo Před 11 měsíci +16

      delete your app then

    • @MsSoulBlader
      @MsSoulBlader Před 11 měsíci +12

      @@pyrofestimo a literal devil's advocate

    • @pyrofestimo
      @pyrofestimo Před 11 měsíci +10

      @@MsSoulBlader i wouldn't mind reddit losing a gazzilion users from whatever decision they'll make. bringing back the good ol' unmoderated 2009 reddit 😎

    • @MsSoulBlader
      @MsSoulBlader Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@pyrofestimo Now that I can agree with

    • @nerdglider
      @nerdglider Před 11 měsíci +4

      So you’re gonna stop using a useful service because of some ceos tone lol 😂 people are such sheep

  • @midnight_yota
    @midnight_yota Před 11 měsíci +33

    The 90/9/1 rule is so interesting to me because I never realized how many people will view content and not even like, comment or interact with it at all. It's wild to me.

    • @MylesKillis
      @MylesKillis Před 11 měsíci +2

      When is that mentioned

    • @mustash7
      @mustash7 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@MylesKillis57:35 approximately

    • @ismellpedo
      @ismellpedo Před 11 měsíci

      Yup! That’s exactly me. I just view it or read comments then keep scrolling to the next topic. No interaction whatsoever

    • @blairoutlan6042
      @blairoutlan6042 Před 11 měsíci +1

      I have almost never liked a video on CZcams lol.

  • @tahayvr
    @tahayvr Před 11 měsíci +52

    The third founder of Reddit that you all missed is one of the most influential people in the history of the internet!
    RIP Aaron Swartz

  • @MoneybagsUkulele
    @MoneybagsUkulele Před 11 měsíci +236

    An update: Reddit is, in fact, forcing out uncooperative moderators and replacing them with people who will toe the line.

    • @stickzilla
      @stickzilla Před 11 měsíci +5

      And the mods caved and reopen the subreddits, smh.

    • @sinez999
      @sinez999 Před 11 měsíci +14

      @@stickzilla Is anyone surprised? If we're being all the way honest, I'd say majority of these reddit mods don't have much else to feel important about in real life.

    • @NJKoopmeiners
      @NJKoopmeiners Před 11 měsíci

      Wow, that is dystopian. Reddit has been anti-consumer for a while, especially how they are more and more aggressively pushing users to use their garbage app and before that the new layout. All because they want to maximize profits by leveraging their monopolistic power, while that profit is mostly user generated and moderated content which they pay zero for.

    • @joshuarmost
      @joshuarmost Před 11 měsíci +5

      @@sinez999 partly that but also we'd kinda rather keep running our subs instead of reddit pretty much burning down our subs by putting mods in that don't know what they are doing. But I'm all for keeping subs closed and going down with the ship.

    • @rk-wy8pu
      @rk-wy8pu Před 11 měsíci +2

      People said the same think when twitter monetized the blue tick. But Reddit got it absolutely right. They created a platform which is hella additctive and people spend way too much time on it.
      In addition, the moderators are on their own power trip. So Reddit decided to make more money off these addicts and this is absolutely good business sense.

  • @_jaded
    @_jaded Před 11 měsíci +394

    The reddit CEO is going about this whole situation terribly

    • @toptiertech7291
      @toptiertech7291 Před 11 měsíci +11

      He’s got it handled pretty well it seems like. On Reddit most people were more angry at the mods than Reddit. Because 99.9% of people just use Reddit normally

    • @JohnKerbaugh
      @JohnKerbaugh Před 11 měsíci +38

      ​@@toptiertech7291but mods are unpaid labor. You don't have communities without mods.

    • @kevinsky86
      @kevinsky86 Před 11 měsíci +15

      ​@@toptiertech7291 This is not my exprience, but I guess it'll highly depend on the circles you're in.
      Some angry teen that can't access their Roblox reddit is indeed likely to feel inconvenienced more so than others that have a good beat on exactly what is happening here.
      From any metric of reason Reddit is handeling this whole thing excruciatingly bad. From the timeline of the API changes, to the charges they want (pulling a twitter after explicitly stating they wouldn't do so) to the disregard Spez has for his mods and by extention the users and even just basic integrity. Nothing about this is elegant.

    • @JohnKerbaugh
      @JohnKerbaugh Před 11 měsíci +3

      And mods participate the most. So they're the biggest target for the API charge.

    • @toptiertech7291
      @toptiertech7291 Před 11 měsíci +4

      @@JohnKerbaugh why? People keep saying that buy why? What does a mod really do? Over react and ban people? You can literally have AI do all of that. Mods don’t set a community up. I can create a community right now. No problem. Not sure what you mean.

  • @thelonelyloner7
    @thelonelyloner7 Před 11 měsíci +82

    As a Swede I'm so happy to see Volvo (Polestar) getting more attention in the tech space. I really like Volvos design language and specs in general. Volvo will definitely be my first car if I ever get one.

    • @musazuntuwa3881
      @musazuntuwa3881 Před 11 měsíci +12

      It is a Chinese company now

    • @esaedvik
      @esaedvik Před 11 měsíci +4

      As a neighbor, I love seeing them do well, unlike my fav, Saab, but still sad Volvo is now Chinese-owned. I would be a bit vary of pairing my phone with the car etc. if it "phones home". :(

    • @bknysz45
      @bknysz45 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Don’t get your hopes up, Volvo/polestar have been bought by a Chinese company years ago, it’s not the Volvo we loved anymore, just a shell of itself for the Chinese to penetrate the European market

    • @vesper7750
      @vesper7750 Před 11 měsíci

      I'm swedish too and I just saw on the news that they are boycotting Volvo here because Ukraine has blacklisted a Chinese Company that owns (part of?) Volvo. The boycott is by some officials, not just random people, but I don't know the right words in English unfortunately. Just thought it was interesting. Love Polestars design though!

  • @kane3681
    @kane3681 Před 11 měsíci +13

    A small correction:
    API calls need not to be single updates. One can aggregate all upvotes for upto 10 seconds and then make a call. It depends on how the app is written, and how much of a latency is an issue.

  • @joeyunderwood
    @joeyunderwood Před 11 měsíci +29

    one thing you missed about the new YPP requirements, that i think would be worth clarifying next week, is that the new lowered requirements don’t allow you to put ads on your videos, they just get you into fan funding such as super chats. you still have to get 1,000 subscribers and 4,000 watch hours for ads.

    • @imarchit
      @imarchit Před 11 měsíci +5

      I think this is the most important thing they missed. Lower Requirements allow for other ways of funding, ads which is the biggest thing, is still the same.

    • @MergeDroid
      @MergeDroid Před 11 měsíci +3

      Was looking for this comment - thanks! Yeah, massive context to the change, when you hear monetisation on CZcams you naturally assume Adsense revenue. It's nice to see the change from CZcams though, helping small channels with passionate fans and giving the creator a step towards qualifying for AdSense revenue at 4k watch hours and 1k subs (or the Shorts equivalent).

  • @alan0jjang
    @alan0jjang Před 11 měsíci +59

    Gotta hit that like button before I finish the pod, because we all know it's going to be another banger of a podcast.

  • @TooSmalley
    @TooSmalley Před 11 měsíci +64

    I think it’s a big hypocrisy that the Reddit CEOs has this attitude, Reddit doesn’t produce original Content everything on the website is links to other websites or user generated content.
    He’s complaining about the third party apps bypassing reddit ads, when Reddit users regularly bypass pay walls to post other websites or creators contents.

  • @bengurwell1500
    @bengurwell1500 Před 11 měsíci +85

    12 years on reddit, millions in comment karma, account deleted. Users like myself and others who comment didnt code the site or build the servers, but we are the ones who truly "built" reddit. The attitude that Huffman is taking towards the community is unnacceptable.

    • @othertonywi1son
      @othertonywi1son Před 11 měsíci +5

      13 years on Reddit, 400k karma. Lots of contributions to subreddits that solve technical issues, console mods, Apple history... ALL DELETED. I will not let Reddit profit off of my knowledge while completely ignoring what the community wants. I don't plan on creating a new account until Huffman steps down.

    • @nasemiqbal1975
      @nasemiqbal1975 Před 11 měsíci

      guys, I think there's another way to go about it. Just saw a Louis Rossman video where users keep uploading GBs of videos to crash the site.

    • @nasemiqbal1975
      @nasemiqbal1975 Před 11 měsíci

      boycotts dont work very well unless a sufficiently large community of ppl engage in it. And u/spez has recognized it as noise because he knows we dont have too many options. I have stayed off for a while but heavens know there are some things you will never find on a google search. But yes. Users intentionally working to break a service is one where no investors will go to.

    • @torinreese4829
      @torinreese4829 Před 11 měsíci +1

      lmao this is cute

  • @MeshMN
    @MeshMN Před 11 měsíci +290

    Anti-consumer behavior should never be rewarded - stay strong boycotters ...

    • @heretolevitateme
      @heretolevitateme Před 11 měsíci

      You are not a consumer of social media. You are the product. Advertisers are the consumer. Reddit is about to IPO and to do so they need to generate disclosure and reporting documents that are approved by the SEC. Play Store and App Store figures provided by third party apps are one way to validate that reddit is reporting the right number of eyeballs. Reddit has to get rid of these apps so that it can count bot and sockpuppet activity as legit users and inflate their numbers for the IPO--just like Meta and Google have been doing for decades at this point. What is an "impression"?--it's horseshit. BigMouth Elon blurted out about bot activity when he was in negotiations to buy twitter and has been silent about it ever since--ever wonder why?
      We can pretend Spez is an irrational moron, or we can figure out exactly what he's doing.

    • @jaimeduncan6167
      @jaimeduncan6167 Před 11 měsíci +11

      it's not as simple as it seems. Did you read the interview where Reddit expressed their opinion? There is a bunch of companies charging for the services and paying nothing to Reddit. How is that sustainable or just? do you have any idea of the price of AWS services? (you don't have to know, but it's expensive for big deployments).

    • @zachsowell8845
      @zachsowell8845 Před 11 měsíci

      @@jaimeduncan6167sure but the pricing structure was a “f*** you” price and not a reasonable price with reasonable margins. It’s a blatant attempt to pump user numbers before an IPO.

    • @waldamy
      @waldamy Před 11 měsíci +17

      ​@@jaimeduncan6167 nobody is against actual charges. People are against them being too high. It's estimated that Reddit charges about 20 times more money per user, than it takes them to actually service the user themselves.
      App developers would be plenty happy if the price was reduced 8 times or so - would be about in line with another service, such as Imgur.
      Also, the official Reddit app is pretty crap, and Reddit also has been test-driving a new "feature" on their mobile website - inability to log in. Just to force users on the app.
      Bad practices, high prices, bad UI/UX buggy app.

    • @ReclusiveEagle
      @ReclusiveEagle Před 11 měsíci +1

      Reddit is not a product or a service. You are not paying for anything. It's not anti-consumer. It's bullshit but it's not anti-consumer. There are no customers or consumers, only users.

  • @krisbutler1385
    @krisbutler1385 Před 11 měsíci +11

    I would love a discussion around alternatives to Reddit that people could agree to start posting on. I've tried out a few like Squabbles and Tilde and they have potential but without the community that has been naturally grown on Reddit its tough to make a switch.

    • @OsakaBoi
      @OsakaBoi Před 11 měsíci +1

      Maybe for a future waveform episode like when they discussed Twitter alternatives. Lemmy and kbin are also good reddit alternatives to try, and are part of the Fediverse

  • @MeshMN
    @MeshMN Před 11 měsíci +61

    Thank you for covering the Reddit boycott - informative discussion - the Reddit CEO is a 2-faced jerk that should NOT be a CEO for such duplicitous anti-consumer behavior. Hold your ground Reddit fans and if they force moderator changes, they have dug their own grave and this much ill will for an IPO is a disaster ... quite literally the worst thing that could have happened. Cannot believe a CEO has that much disdain for his own community that buttered his bread for years - unreal.

    • @McdoogleTV
      @McdoogleTV Před 11 měsíci

      I think you missed a dolphin noise at 1:05:37

    • @toptiertech7291
      @toptiertech7291 Před 11 měsíci

      Lmao imagine thinking a 2 faces jerk who fed plays anti consumer behavior SHOULNT be a CEO 😂😂

  • @SundiMyint
    @SundiMyint Před 11 měsíci +7

    My eyes double checked the time so fast lol

  •  Před 11 měsíci +11

    It's very interesting to hear the comparison of reddit with a centralized form of forums. It's reminds me of a technology from the early days of the internet which was called newsgroups, you could subscribe different topics and get your daily updates via your newsreader. Usually email programs supported newsgroups.

    • @musicjewell9329
      @musicjewell9329 Před 11 měsíci +3

      Newsgroups still around for pirates. So I hear..

  • @POINDXTRMUSIC
    @POINDXTRMUSIC Před 11 měsíci +6

    59:27 is exactly why i love this channel. Different people with different skills that multiplies into insane synergy

  • @nationharris
    @nationharris Před 11 měsíci +72

    Literally hate watching anything on twitch. It's such an awful experience.

    • @TheMCEagles
      @TheMCEagles Před 11 měsíci +3

      its sooooooooooooo bad

    • @Californ1a
      @Californ1a Před 11 měsíci +3

      Twitch's video player and style of ad placement (completely interrupting the content) is terrible. But Twitch's chat, game categories/browsing, discoverability for finding new streamers to watch, and their APIs, all that's great. CZcams (at least for livestreams) has terrible chat, APIs, and discoverability/categories, but has an amazing video player. If I'm not chatting and I'm just going to passively watch then I definitely prefer watching on CZcams, even just being able to scrub back a few minutes when I join a bit late and watch at 2x speed to catch up is amazing, but if I want to actually interact with the stream and chat (such as with the integrated polls, or all the interactive stream overlays where viewers can directly click parts of the video player to interact), or find a new streamer to watch and chat with, I'm going for Twitch.

    • @ChipsCST
      @ChipsCST Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@Californ1a And it sucks that Marques kinda sounded like he was siding with YT > Twitch, despite the fact that I've found more people Faster on Twitch than I did even in YT Gaming's peak (which was, ironically, when it first started up IMO). Now I Have to scroll down to even get to YT Gaming and even then, I Have to do More digging for live channels. I kept trying to figure out the words to say in regards to how much less CZcams cares for livestreaming than Twitch does. Like it's Painfully obvious when the best changes done to CZcams [Livestreaming] is Super Chats & Donos/Tips.
      It's honestly gonna be a struggle to see how things with livestreaming unfold. I vowed to stay away from watching Livestreams for about a year, but if Twitch does indeed come crumbling down...ooh boy...

    • @thearabicdp
      @thearabicdp Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@ChipsCSTdon't forget CZcams has a search engine so it's easy to find creators based on games you're searching for.

  • @danieltrias2518
    @danieltrias2518 Před 11 měsíci +7

    Boom! Another episode drops! Thanks guys!

  • @amirecs
    @amirecs Před 11 měsíci +14

    damn, its crazy how much youtube lowered the requirements for being eligible to profit off your channel. nice job youtube!

    • @MergeDroid
      @MergeDroid Před 11 měsíci

      They already run ads on some non (creator) monetised content. Unfortunately this change to join the CZcams Partner Program (YPP) won't unlock earning AdSense revenue for the creators, you'd still need 1,000 subs and 4k watch hours for that. This just allows access to things like Supers (Super Thanks etc), Channel Memberships, selling via CZcams Shopping.

  • @rud3b0ygaming
    @rud3b0ygaming Před 11 měsíci +8

    So true about the twitch v CZcams thing. CZcams can rest easy while Twitch constantly shoots itself in the foot. I think twitch will forever probably lead when it comes to livestreams but as a platform as a whole it won't catch the others anytime soon coz places like CZcams offer so much more beyond the livestreaming

  • @danielbass09
    @danielbass09 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Love how you guys also just throw in some sports chatter in the middle of a tech podcast. Love this. Need more.

  • @vkrone
    @vkrone Před 11 měsíci +11

    Every friday when I see a new episode dropping I literally scream a little bit inside, because it just makes me so happy to watch and listen. The production is absolutely fantastic and I love the vibe and knowledge of you 5 so much. And every time I watch an older episode, it makes me appreciate the talent and work of you guys even more. Honestly, I don‘t care that much about tech tbh, but I‘ve just loved Marques for years and then discovered Waveform and immediately fell in love.
    sending much love from swissy

  • @josejarquin
    @josejarquin Před 11 měsíci +3

    thank you for the longer episodes!!!

  • @thelonelyloner7
    @thelonelyloner7 Před 11 měsíci +36

    I don't really even care about Reddit as an app since I don't use it. But I'm still super interested into what happened/is happening there so I can't wait to listen to this episode

  • @babylonian
    @babylonian Před 11 měsíci +14

    21:33 ahahaha, samstailor getting indirectly referenced on Waveform is not something i thought would ever happen

    • @tortlebard
      @tortlebard Před 11 měsíci

      “little white men scurry to me like rats”

    • @arsalanafroz
      @arsalanafroz Před 6 měsíci

      Yoooo, what are you doing here? I LOVE your videos!

    • @ArashYT
      @ArashYT Před 3 měsíci +1

      I LOVE SAMSTAILOR

  • @PoDaHPanda
    @PoDaHPanda Před 11 měsíci +1

    I look forward to this every Friday! Thank you!

  • @ani8108
    @ani8108 Před 11 měsíci

    Another great podcast! I still think you guys should do an update to the intro/outdo video and even maybe music, Just to freshene things up. But no big deal. Doesn’t change the fact that this is always a GREAT pod

  • @W1SEthat
    @W1SEthat Před 11 měsíci +21

    The Reddit situation is such a mess on their part. I can understand why they needed to make changes but the way they presented it was just so poorly done. Especially with the CEO continuing to double down on taking a stance against users.

  • @InfinitiveStar
    @InfinitiveStar Před 11 měsíci +4

    On Reddit - people end of July they will probably forget what happened with Reddit. Users will start moving to the official app and 3 months later Reddit will be happy

  • @janausis
    @janausis Před 11 měsíci +5

    love to see them using the framework 😄

  • @Enormousguy
    @Enormousguy Před 11 měsíci

    The eyes on the Marques's shirt and his microphone are really aligned well.

  • @apeksh3063
    @apeksh3063 Před 11 měsíci

    anyone know the song used during the trivia question segment ending?

  • @Scymet
    @Scymet Před 11 měsíci +2

    1:22:10 Marques dying inside 😭

  • @keiz_
    @keiz_ Před 11 měsíci +4

    It's interesting too the sheer amount of calld and tracking the first party Reddit app does when you look into it, its freaking insane, and honestly scary.

  • @gavinsquared
    @gavinsquared Před 11 měsíci

    One of the funniest episodes yet, nice to see you all bonding more and more, love to see it.

  • @Neuri
    @Neuri Před 11 měsíci

    props to Adam for mastering the audio louder than the ads! only channel on youtube doing this!

  • @tglatthard
    @tglatthard Před 11 měsíci

    Love those nerdy deep dives - like the reddit topic. Thanks for the discussion. I like that more than the more segmented version of the show. But to each his own.

  • @francisyuweh706
    @francisyuweh706 Před 11 měsíci

    another great episode guys. hopefully ellis is also present next week. Keep it up

  • @MichaelJohnson2
    @MichaelJohnson2 Před 11 měsíci +26

    RIF is fun - for life
    Not surprised Reddit is doing this - they're prepping for an IPO. Twitter did the exact same thing, kicked off the 3rd party apps, and they're doing fine. But to be fair, the OG Twitter app was always fine, just missing some features. The OG Reddit app has terrible UX, clunky, and full of ads.

    • @theglowcloud2215
      @theglowcloud2215 Před 11 měsíci

      Did you just say Twitter is doing fine? Twitter has turned into a cesspool of far-right meme bullshit and random hardcore porn replies to unrelated tweets. It's a dumpster fire. Moreso than before, anyway.

    • @toptiertech7291
      @toptiertech7291 Před 11 měsíci

      Full of ads is why they are doing this. 3rd party apps don’t make Reddit the ad revenue

  • @rodrigojrivas
    @rodrigojrivas Před 11 měsíci +2

    Great episode as always! Am I the only one that thinks that Andrew is always trying to run the show and talks 90% of the time about his own opinions? I’d love to see more Marques and David. I feel like they bring a more dynamic vibe to the podcast.

  • @ikhares
    @ikhares Před 11 měsíci +5

    I used to use Bacon Reader, and then switched to Apollo, but I've since deleted my account because the way the CEO and the company handled it is just awful

  • @asion09
    @asion09 Před 11 měsíci

    Best episode in a while! Really enjoyed it

  • @Akadehmix
    @Akadehmix Před 11 měsíci

    When he says “Why obviously?“. I have no words lol

  • @drjag2861
    @drjag2861 Před 11 měsíci +1

    The trivia sounds have become iconic

  • @DivyangM
    @DivyangM Před 11 měsíci +1

    If anybody didn't understand what Andrew is saying at 44:00, David explains it much better just after that.

  • @shananderson9339
    @shananderson9339 Před 11 měsíci

    MKHB I love how you are taking on the role of the listener to learn and then give your wisdom on the topic. Top Notch

  • @wordplaytjay
    @wordplaytjay Před 11 měsíci +1

    I know this was two weeks ago but I learned that the youtube lower requirements are ONLY for access to Members, Supers, and Shopping.
    It’s not for Ad Revenue

  • @jeremiahmaryland
    @jeremiahmaryland Před 11 měsíci

    Such a great episode shoutout to all you guys 💐

  • @techwolf89
    @techwolf89 Před 11 měsíci

    Marques, for that trivia question at the end, Captain America is definitely not one of the founders lol

  • @thedislikebutton163
    @thedislikebutton163 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Yetis of the mountains were obviously named after the blue Yeti mic coz they've been around forever

  • @mopnem
    @mopnem Před 11 měsíci +4

    I realized reddit is almost the only easily accessible way to get actual answers to questions on the internet. Without it there’s only useless article time waters

  • @Timbaland150
    @Timbaland150 Před 11 měsíci

    wait I actually love the sudden plug in on sport updates

  • @yaboiharry
    @yaboiharry Před 11 měsíci +3

    you were right about reddit just removing the moderators who are doing the blackouts

  • @waiitwhaat
    @waiitwhaat Před 11 měsíci +1

    Aayyy the Spotify episode changed to correct one!

  • @toperaheem
    @toperaheem Před 11 měsíci

    I'm just loving these recent thumbnails😂😂

  • @OsakaBoi
    @OsakaBoi Před 11 měsíci +7

    They forgot to mention the Accessibility angle of the reddit issue. Disabled users of r/blind or r/deaf relied on third party apps because the official app was lacking.

  • @radford2012804
    @radford2012804 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Used to listen to this in the car but I love the video aspect

  • @oleww50
    @oleww50 Před 11 měsíci +3

    16:04 for what it’s worth I hate twitch, I’ve tried to use it but the UI is pretty horrendous, CZcams is so much better in every way.

  • @MarkHawk
    @MarkHawk Před 11 měsíci

    The Chevy Volt is the Prius Prime, but it's been around for almost a decade. I have the 2017 Volt, and the Prius feels like a slightly updated version of it.

  • @ArashYT
    @ArashYT Před 3 měsíci

    Great episode!

  • @elemaire86
    @elemaire86 Před 11 měsíci

    The strength and reddit for me has always been the fact that these communities are so strong that the people who are part of them genuinely care enough that you get quick and accurate information about super specific topics. Quora also has a community of people who genuinely care about the topics they discuss or comment on because why would they be on core to begin with? The difference is they're way more people on Reddit. The responses are almost always immediate. It's honestly unparallel to any other platform that I've used. And I'm talking niche topics like something about an old board game or an old part from an antiquated piece of technology, or something more common like specifics about script writing. Whatever it is, I've always found genuinely passionate community of people who are willing to help and point you in the right direction and offer you information and guidance. And I think a big part of that are the moderators. Because of the moderators, the people that are part of subreddits are usually the people who care about the topic and they're not trolls.

  • @49Ibanez
    @49Ibanez Před 11 měsíci +3

    How did none of you know Aaron Swartz!!!

  • @hummingbird71
    @hummingbird71 Před 11 měsíci

    As disasterous as it is, I think you guys should also link the interview article spez had with the Verge in the description.

  • @camdendexter
    @camdendexter Před 11 měsíci +1

    Twitch's size restriction, for context, 3% of a 1920x1080 stream is 250x250, decently sized but no idea why attempt to enforce restrictions.

  • @HolyHipHop116
    @HolyHipHop116 Před 11 měsíci +1

    If this wasn’t the biggest advertisement for Reddit then I don’t know what is

  • @esaedvik
    @esaedvik Před 11 měsíci

    Volvo EX30 is a bit smaller in length than the second gen Prius (2003), but taller and wider, so looks a bit thicc. Kind of the perfect size.

  • @Casmael01
    @Casmael01 Před 11 měsíci +2

    I’ll have you know the Kia ev6 is fucking enormous actually

  • @Edwardhh
    @Edwardhh Před 11 měsíci +1

    The thumbnail💀

  • @MeshMN
    @MeshMN Před 11 měsíci +1

    I used to check Twitter many times daily, now it is literally maybe once a week at most ...

  • @OrigamiMarie
    @OrigamiMarie Před 11 měsíci

    I have a suspicion about why CZcams doesn't try harder to compete against Twitch. Well, more than one idea.
    1. CZcams tried for a bit. They pushed CZcams Gaming for a while there, and it just didn't take, despite their efforts.
    2. I believe Twitch has rules saying your stream can't appear on any other platform until 24 hours after it airs on Twitch, so the transition path is not great.
    3. The paid subscription model is just really different, and CZcams probably didn't want to put in the work to make a comparable model that would pretty much just support gaming and similar streams.
    4. CZcams has a very different relationship with copyrighted audio than Twitch does. I think Twitch will let you stream songs that you don't have rights to, at least as a part of your audio, and they won't do much about it until replay (when they blank out the affected audio). CZcams immediately gives the video revenue to the (claimed) rights holder, which means a streamer can accidentally lose the revenue for a whole stream.
    5. Totally different channel / creator discovery models.

  • @David-ry4jq
    @David-ry4jq Před 11 měsíci +1

    Re Twitch, im reminded oof the end credits of Monty Python:
    We apologise again for the fault in the subtitles. Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked, have been sacked.

  • @francinegregory
    @francinegregory Před 11 měsíci +1

    I use the Blue Raspberry mic. Works really well.

  • @thanwatownow
    @thanwatownow Před 11 měsíci +2

    I believe there was also a pay option to be forever on Apollo..
    I believe I bought that because I enjoy premium usage but haven't been charged for yearly 😅😂 damn

  • @REVIEWSONTHERUN
    @REVIEWSONTHERUN Před 11 měsíci

    Thanks for sharing it. ✌️

  • @elemaire86
    @elemaire86 Před 11 měsíci

    I think the big issue with the way we categorize social media is that we moved from "social network" platforms to the umbrella term "social media". And though I understand the days of MySpace are dead and Facebook for that matter, Social network should really be platforms where you build relationships, reconnect, establish community conversations. So today we have Twitter, Facebook, Reddit etc. Social media should be strictly places where you consume and create media in an online social platform. So CZcams, Tick Tock, Crunchyroll (because it allows you to post comments which I feel like Netflix should have an option for) and Instagram. Then you have communication tools like WhatsApp that I believe can fall into the social network bucket. But even though most of these platforms are broadening the services they offer, there should be a clear distinction between CZcams and Facebook or CZcams and Twitter. CZcams is just a place I consume content and the interactions in the comments section, although entertaining is secondary. By that definition, Facebook has moved from a social network to social media as well.

  • @jmelchiori85
    @jmelchiori85 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I think reddit just wants the phone telemetry of having their app installed. My understanding is that data is worth more than even the ads.

  • @starlord8973
    @starlord8973 Před 10 měsíci

    The EX 30 Twin Motor Ultra Spec is £44,495 UK Price

  • @dancoll8166
    @dancoll8166 Před 11 měsíci

    Adam, thank you for asking for the API definition.

  • @kaptainkool101
    @kaptainkool101 Před 11 měsíci

    1:05:34 - Oops, editor missed one :P

  • @skyblueo
    @skyblueo Před 11 měsíci

    The first Marquse video I ever watched was his review of a Blue microphone.

  • @greedypotatoes
    @greedypotatoes Před 11 měsíci +1

    Favorite podcast 🔥☄️

  • @shivastorm8680
    @shivastorm8680 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I use the browser for almost everything; CZcams, Reddit, Amazon…

  • @rockroad4798
    @rockroad4798 Před 11 měsíci +3

    I think twitch is better for the creator but as a viewer I prefer CZcams. Twitch has too many ads and the ability to rewatch missed streams is such a hassle.

  • @rk-wy8pu
    @rk-wy8pu Před 11 měsíci +2

    People said the same think when twitter monetized the blue tick. But Reddit got it absolutely right. They created a platform which is hella additctive and people spend way too much time on it.
    In addition, the moderators are on their own power trip. So Reddit decided to make more money off these addicts and this is absolutely good business sense.

  • @robertoreyes1455
    @robertoreyes1455 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I’m going down with Apollo. Used blue alien, Reddit if fun, Relay. Sad to see because Reddit was top tier.

  • @rafigladboy
    @rafigladboy Před 11 měsíci

    Love this podcast from Bangladesh.

  • @slmbkdk
    @slmbkdk Před 11 měsíci

    the volvo "T" headlamps are called as Thor's hammer lights

  • @monishn15
    @monishn15 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Oh nice,the right episode XD

    • @Waveform
      @Waveform  Před 11 měsíci +3

      lmao don't jinx me! 😅

    • @monishn15
      @monishn15 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@Waveform don't worry our prayers r with u🤣

  • @rscmcl
    @rscmcl Před 11 měsíci

    about CZcams, you can upload a preview or trailer of the main video and then you could upload the behind-the-scenes version .....

  • @JerryLedesma1
    @JerryLedesma1 Před 11 měsíci +3

    I hope this question doesn't get lost in the comments....
    So just out of curiosity, what happens to your old devices after you upgrade? (Old laptops or desktops or any of that) Do you all sell those or what do you do with them?

  • @ClassicRiki
    @ClassicRiki Před 5 měsíci

    4:39 that Volvo looks horrendous.

  • @dewrules235
    @dewrules235 Před 11 měsíci

    Hello 👋🏻, I am the lurking Reddit user that uses it a small amount. I’ve made like sub 20 comments ever and use the first party app 🤷🏻‍♂️. I remember trying Apollo once and it honestly felt weirder/worse for me to use.

  • @yaboiharry
    @yaboiharry Před 11 měsíci +2

    this might be dumb but can't apollo refund the people who paid for the year subscription and the shut down their app so they dont lose money? and if there's subscriber 6 months in you could refund half of what they paid etc

  • @bpmotion
    @bpmotion Před 11 měsíci +1

    1:18:59 Best awkward part lol.

  • @michelsfeir
    @michelsfeir Před 11 měsíci

    Can you release the intro music?? it's dope!

  • @Hielalala
    @Hielalala Před 11 měsíci +5

    I've only been using Reddit for a year so I've learnt so much watching this.