I would say flowkey because I already tried simply piano and it autually got really boring in while because it went to slow to teach you thing and it forced you to get it right the first time like if I already knew sheet music
SimplyPiano app (android user); Essentials III (Rhythm) - it doesn't matter how long/short I play the note, if I hit the correct key - then the app considers then I did everything right regardless of how long or short that note should be. I wonder if Flowkey has the same problem
flowkey is better for options and kind of cheaper than simply piano for premium. though i think simply piano is better for kids beginning to learn piano and flowkey would be better for people a little older than 10 ish to start piano. just my opinion though please no hate.
@@deecl305 flowkey is a bit better for this, but if you use wait mode it is really just looking for you to play the right note, it doesn't check how long you're playing the note for.
I completed the Simply Piano course. I was more or less a complete beginner. I started in Oct 2019. It took me a little over a year to complete it. I like the sheet music because its at my level. I started using.Flowkey about half a year ago. I wanted to advance a little more. It gave me a chance to work with more advanced notes and improve on my own. Both apps worked out for me I prefer to be without a teacher it lets me learn on my own.
Being self-taught makes it hard to avoid picking up bad habits that can damage your playing ability and your hands, but if you aren't planning on becoming very advanced and just wanna play some simple pop for fun then it's not as big of a deal.
I agree, but I’ve looked at in person piano lessons in my city and they charge $50-$150 per lesson. $120/yr is a lot, but in my situation it’s the best option.
The suggestion is fair! I started with simply and I enjoyed that it forced me to finish the courses before playing a certain song. I found it annoying but that motivated me to master some skills without getting frustrated that I couldn't follow to play the song I like. I finished simply in a year and now I am thinking about getting flowkey.
@Zabloing i only agree about the pop songs. I wish they would add more classical pieces, and gave you the posibility to choose playing the original harder song or a simplified version (a lot of songs are already simplified in the app)
I used simply piano. It was ok but I could miss quite a few notes and it still said I got the piece. It doesn't cover as much. Pianote goes into extreme detail of everything. They do live lesson, coaches are available and forums. I found that one is a lot better.
I tried Flowkey, but I didn’t like the way the bars of music scrolled on one line (felt like a game). So, I continued to search and found Piano Marvel, which is not as much of a game, but focuses more on reading sheet music. And I like how the music bars/notes don’t scroll.
I agree with you that flowing notes really hurt my eyes in the long term, and sadly, musician and flowkey and simply piano all have it...so I think Piano Marvel did a great job. I also recommend you to check out the playground sessions
Thank you very much for a calm and informative review. (I came here after clicking through a dozen videos of screaming people trying to get from pun to pun while failing to actually review anything, and I have the feeling my brain needs some serious soothing now.)
I tried Simply Piano for a year. It did teach me quite a few basics and chords , however I will never use it again, because -There are A LOT of commercial pop songs (and I do not like pop, at all) -You have to complete a song in order to progress So I was basically stuck in pop music hell and stopped practicing because of the lack of freedom I felt so learn with the songs I like (anything but pop and rock, basically). Can't say anything about flowkey yet, just installed it, but from what I see it has much more variety than SP (videogame music, anyone?), which I think is already a big plus.
Good review but you missed one of the best features of Simply piano, Play Beta, that actually addresses many of the issues you call out. To me Play has been the best for song learning and the sheet music with feedback is awesome.
So Flowkey will not be audible on an android phone if connected by Midi. Confirmed by customer support (you need to have another app running in the background to "hear" your keyboard). SimplyPiano works perfectly well.
Hi Charles, thanks for the informative comparison. Which of the two would you recommend for improving sight-reading skills? I'm coming back to piano after a long break and even though I passed my Grade 6 exam before, I failed the sight-reading part. I always struggle through the reading part and then rely on muscle memory to actually play the pieces, but I want to be able to read in real-time as my inability to read music fast ruins my enjoyment of playing.
I really like your approach used to explain the differences between these two apps. One bad thing Flowkey has, it's that sometimes it fails to register the note one plays... Thus not letting one advance with the song.
@@interestingstuff8932 We noticed this with the kids playing because the tablet is listening for the sounds being played. I have bought a midi cable which connects the piano to the tablet which then picks up all the notes being pressed via the cable and not being picked up by the tablet microphone. Seems much better. Also with a 2 male to 1 female 3.5mm jack merge cable, can take both piano and tablet outputs to a single jack socket so we can use headphones and practice in silence.
@@jeffreypounds9956 I compared them myself. And I have to say this review is quite biased towards flowkey. It does not mention a few of the nicest features of simply piano e.g. the handsfree operating. Not saying flowkey is not good or better just saying this may be "his" honest opinion but it is by far not an unbiased nor balanced review.
I started with Simply Piano but I didn't like the way they use numbers on the music instead of using the note name. With the left hand the little finger is on the c but on the music score a 5 is above the note. I was trying to learn the note names but all I saw were the numbers and it was very distracting for me. I see Flowkey doesn't use numbers to identify the note therefore I can learn the notes and their positions on the bar line. I have cancelled my account with Simply Piano and am starting with Flowkey.
i don't really like learning songs in simply piano i only love their courses But in flowkey i like leaning songs but i can't chose what to start with in their corses So i use both🙂👍
In my experience flowkey is for people who already know how to play atleast a bit. I am a 3rd grade student in art school and flowkey is a great way to relax from all of the other stuff I have to play Simply piano is a great way to start and then you can start using flowkey and it will be easy :)
Totally agree is absurd the apps don't have a metronome. However, with wait mode, you can run a separate metronome. I learned guitar first, and had a simple small battery operated metronome, and it works well with wait mode.
Thank you! This video is exactly what I was looking for. I learned sheet music in HS but I was always writing down the notes, rather than sight reading. I can play very well, but I skipped the beginning steps so it’s affecting me. Trying to go back to the basics, I think it’ll be flowkey for me! 😃
I feel like flowkey has more customization/setting options when compared to simply piano. But it doesn’t look as fun which is where some people might find it hard to choose.
Thank you so much for this video! You explained everything very well and clear. I’m going to go with Flowkey. Good luck with your music and stay safe brother!❤️
For complete beginner which one will help me a lot between yousician, flowkey, and simply piano? I live at rural village, i didnt have teacher at my village, so app the only way i can learn piano
ı started learning piano 2 weeks ago with simply piano , ı was a complete beginner too. ı think simply piano is good for beginners . there is some stuff that the. app lacks but in general it is a nice app.
@@heartyandsnowballgirl158 oh It’s not in the video, It’s a joke because Daniel Thrasher’s old videos had a sponsorship at the end and it used to say those words
How much does Flowkey cost? My little sister learns with simply piano, she has a trial and she likes it but dad doesn't wanna buy her the premium version cuz it is too expensive (in our countries currency) so i want to download it for her. I am a pianist tho. So you probs wonder why i don't teach her. She doesn't want it, she only wants to learn with apps cuz she says it is more fun
thanks very much. i wish i had watched this video before signing up with simply piano. but you are absolutely right, simply piano works for total beginners like me. but there are things i did not like, some of which you have pointed out.
Hello Charles! Great app reviews. I’ve seen some of your other videos comparing other piano learning apps and I have to ask which one would you prefer for someone that wants to learn that also plays another instrument? Thanks again!
Hi im thinking to pay the sub for flowkey, is it applicable to digital piano like casio s1000 while i practice on it using the usb port or bluetooth? thanks for your info. liked.
the casio should work with flowkey plugged into a tablet or computer - initially i used an OLD (1990s) Casio 61 key keyboard and that worked. i do not recommend just having the app use the microphone off of a tablet or computer/laptop - it is not as reliable and can lead to frustration. i currently use a Yamaha P125 with iOS plugged in and works flawlessly. good luck!
Hi Charles...I'm looking for an app that is "suitable" for accoustic piano's as for what i've been reading, they lack some understanding of getting the right notes that are being played. Do you recomend any app? I'm a 46 years old with almost no knowledge of piano...yeah...quite old to learn but eager to learn. I'm taking some personal lessons from a teacher but at a rate of 1 per week my improvement is quite slow. I would like to add some other option to my piano education at home. I was keen on Skoove or flowkey... Let me know you thoughts
They all struggle with that as it requires a good acoustic environment and a piano that is concert tuned. You can likely get a better Mic and position it near the cabinet but even that won’t touch the MIDI connectivity. In my opinion, you’re better off grabbing Alfred’s adult guide to piano series books and going through those if you cannot get good note recognition. I recommend those even if you can get good note recognition, but even more so if you cannot. Grab the All in one level one course. www.alfred.com/alfreds-adult-piano-courses/b/
just purchased a Yamaha PSR E473, got 3 months FREE flowkey - but it doesn't work... I hooked it up per instructions, and at first (about 8 minutes) it worked great, but then it didn't - I wouldn't get audio through the keyboard - looked everywhere for a fix - repeated the setup many times - same result - reached out to support with flowkey - TERRIBLE CS - I basically got questions, and NO answers - total waste of time.
iv'e been using the simply piano for a little while and the finger numbers on the chord aren't helpful atall. they definitely need to give an option to enable or disable finger numers.
Hey thank u for this video I just have one question. Ive bought my first digital piano and i really wanna learn how to play the piano and the app is my only way to do so. Simply piano looks fine but i dont think that i would really enjoy working with it. Im not a child -18-, so is it ok if i go with Flowkey? I have no experience at all. I just dont wanna regret choosing the wrong app. Thank u.
Hey Grey, sure if you prefer to go with flowkey I don't think you'll regret it, the biggest piece about learning the piano is having the discipline to do so, if you are committed to showing up every day and practicing a little, flowkey will be fine for you.
I like your tutorials and reviews (and music 😃). Could you make video about MIDI sound management on iOS. For example when I connect Casio PX-870 (as simple MIDI keyboard) to my iPad to use with Simply Piano I can listen to sounds of piano from piano’s own speakers and adjust volume on iPad for iPad sounds. But when I connect Yamaha MX49 that has two-way USB and no own speakers, it plays on headphones (or audio out) both its own and iPad sounds. However the volume on the iPad that is routed to Yamaha is fixed to max on iPad. This makes much higher volume from iOS than the MX own sounds. There are apps that manage audio that I have not tested like Audiobus that are used for samplers mostly. Should I get this or do something else? Can you explain all this two-way USB connection on iOS.
Hi Robert, thanks for watching and thanks for the nice words. I'm not too familiar with midi on iOS since I mostly work on desktop but this is something I want to learn more about so I will dig into it.
I’ve been trying simply piano and piano academy. I like them both and I made good progress with both. I like the sheet music part of simply Piano very much, you don’t have that with piano academy, on the other hand Josh the teacher from piano academy is very cute (I know that shouldn’t count but it does for me). The price for both is similar and you can have several accounts for family members in both apps. I also tried Flowkey - which was my favorite till I got to simply piano, Yousician and skoove. Skoove didn’t work so well for me. Any opinions?
For apps that "listen" and give the student feedback, do I need I need a piano with Bluetooth? USB? Or does it just send info via the device microphone to the app? I'm a total beginner so feedback is important. I'm looking at Yamaha P125 or Roland FP-30. Yamaha only has USB; Roland has Bluetooth. Will one or the other give me access to feedback with most of the apps out there (Simply Piano, FlowKey, Usician, etc.?) Thanks for the helpful review.
USB MIDI. A Midi control keyboard has no sounds, it sends data to your pc and the sounds are synthesized in your pc. Get one with full sized keys, but make sure reviews of keybed are good. I have NovationSL MK3 for example, but an Arturia Keylab Essential would be a good cheap option for $200. Remember tho, no sounds within the device itself, but they (some) will come with sound program downloads for your PC.
I tried FlowKey on the iPad with my 61 key MIDI controller and ran into a big roadblock. The FlowKey app recognizes the MIDI input just fine, but it does not produce it's own sound for the notes. Since my controller does not have a sound module I cannot hear the notes being played. They suggested I run GarageBand as a background process, but that doesn't work because iOS shuts the app down after 15 seconds of being in the background. I'm wondering if any of these learn-to-play-piano apps produce their own sounds? Or do they all rely on the user's keyboard to produce the piano sound?
@@CharlesCleyn Flowkey does not produce its own piano sounds. Neither GarageBand nor Cubasis will continue to run in the background in iOS 13 for more than about 15 seconds. Flowkey support replied to me and said they intend to add piano sounds in the future. They also pointed me to a separate app called iGrand Piano. This app will run successfully in the background and play the sounds for me. So I'm finally up and running with Flowkey and I think it would be helpful to tell other MIDI controller players about these challenges with Flowkey when comparing it to other similar applications.
Hi guyz. Is there any musician here who could tell me which ap is best to learn accompaniments only, in order to sing along ? Seems they all focus on piano full song with melody included. Thanks in advance for any advice. :) cheers
Hey I did flowkey before but I deleted it then I re-downloaded it it has been a month i haven’t downloaded flowkey but I did yesterday and we forgot how to use it can u do a Tourtle of how to start it? Ima sorry how my spelling is
I was told simply piano is the only one you can find easily a cracked fully unlocked version, flowkey not. I don't have a piano yet but will check both apps at some point.
Yeah I found a cracked version of simply piano, ive been playing SP for months but since the progress seems slow, I wanted to try flowkey but I couldn't find a working cracked app. if you find one please let me know.
Can you please remind me, which of the apps had a feature when u can press any piano note to play the track again instead of pressing the screen of my tab?
@@CharlesCleyn Sir, For learning from CZcams, It needs lots of research and I don't know about the different types music. So, How can I learn completely?
@@CharlesCleyn Yes, I started playing the piano at 3 till I was a teen but I wasn't too keen. And now that I'm older, I miss it. Summer has begun so I'd like my kids to learn. Because of the current pandemic, I have decided to use an app. My kids started with Simply Piano (trial). After watching your video, I downloaded Flowkey. My seven year old says he enjoyed Flowkey more than Simply Piano... He says that he is learning better with Flowkey. It's his first day, so let's see how it goes! He's excited to learn songs but I told him to complete the courses first lol! I'll be purchasing Flow key's one year subscription. Thanks again for the review!
Some of the criticism to Simply Piano is either addressed or not fully true. 1) simply piano also has a wait-mode (by now) 2) learning left and right hand separately is usually part of the lesson of each song some criticism is very valid: 1) i do miss is the repeat-section button 2) sometimes the drums you get while learning a song have a really difficult rhythm and i would rather just have a normal click/beat.
Why is there link with you name to flowkey in your description if your saying in the title that it is not a sponsored video? Your are being blatantly deceptive.
hey Alex, that’s an affiliate link. Use it or don’t. It’s up to you. Sponsored videos are out right paid. This video was not sponsored. No one is forcing you to click on the link.
I tried SIMPLY PIANO (in french). I liked it. The thing is that you have not a global view of the lessons, going to the left, and going to the left and so on you can feel lost. And when restarting difficult to remember where you finished last time. The price is a bit expensive reason why I am looking for another apps, it’s seems that flowkey is not the good alternative solution. Anybody have an idea?
People. Stop it with the apps and get a music teacher. You are going to regret your bad habits later when you are unable to improve your technique unless you do specific work to lose the bad habits. It’s not just about technique either - an app cannot teach musicianship.
I gave all her reveiw thumb down as no time does she be explain weather it will work or not, instedd need expensive equipment she doesn't be warning you if thatt in all reveiw she does 😟😰😩😰😰😩😩😩😩😩😧😦😧😧😧😦😧😳😵😶😵😳
Have you tried Flowkey or Simply Piano? Which one do you prefer? Let us know in a comment 🎹
I would say flowkey because I already tried simply piano and it autually got really boring in while because it went to slow to teach you thing and it forced you to get it right the first time like if I already knew sheet music
G_varity hi I like flowkey more bc it does not force much
SimplyPiano app (android user); Essentials III (Rhythm) - it doesn't matter how long/short I play the note, if I hit the correct key - then the app considers then I did everything right regardless of how long or short that note should be. I wonder if Flowkey has the same problem
flowkey is better for options and kind of cheaper than simply piano for premium. though i think simply piano is better for kids beginning to learn piano and flowkey would be better for people a little older than 10 ish to start piano. just my opinion though please no hate.
@@deecl305 flowkey is a bit better for this, but if you use wait mode it is really just looking for you to play the right note, it doesn't check how long you're playing the note for.
I completed the Simply Piano course. I was more or less a complete beginner. I started in Oct 2019. It took me a little over a year to complete it. I like the sheet music because its at my level. I started using.Flowkey about half a year ago. I wanted to advance a little more. It gave me a chance to work with more advanced notes and improve on my own. Both apps worked out for me I prefer to be without a teacher it lets me learn on my own.
Being self-taught makes it hard to avoid picking up bad habits that can damage your playing ability and your hands, but if you aren't planning on becoming very advanced and just wanna play some simple pop for fun then it's not as big of a deal.
stop pushing expensive teachers, back to your cave batman
Both apps think I’m made of money 😂
Don't pay for it then 🤣
what a fanboy answer
@@Mulberry2000 what does that mean
I agree, but I’ve looked at in person piano lessons in my city and they charge $50-$150 per lesson. $120/yr is a lot, but in my situation it’s the best option.
The suggestion is fair! I started with simply and I enjoyed that it forced me to finish the courses before playing a certain song. I found it annoying but that motivated me to master some skills without getting frustrated that I couldn't follow to play the song I like.
I finished simply in a year and now I am thinking about getting flowkey.
As I am a total beginner using piano as a precursor to learning and playing the harp Simply Piano is a great fit for me.
I have simply piano and it was easy and simple and i know it gets hate (the ads do be cringe tho) but it's a really good app
@Zabloing i only agree about the pop songs. I wish they would add more classical pieces, and gave you the posibility to choose playing the original harder song or a simplified version (a lot of songs are already simplified in the app)
Confusion they teach u how to position ur fingers correctly
@@wadabid6165 and when we’ve they do teach you classical pieces they only teach you the first part
its helping me a lot
I used simply piano. It was ok but I could miss quite a few notes and it still said I got the piece. It doesn't cover as much. Pianote goes into extreme detail of everything. They do live lesson, coaches are available and forums. I found that one is a lot better.
I tried Flowkey, but I didn’t like the way the bars of music scrolled on one line (felt like a game). So, I continued to search and found Piano Marvel, which is not as much of a game, but focuses more on reading sheet music. And I like how the music bars/notes don’t scroll.
I agree with you that flowing notes really hurt my eyes in the long term, and sadly, musician and flowkey and simply piano all have it...so I think Piano Marvel did a great job. I also recommend you to check out the playground sessions
I cant read sheet music, but I can read the ABCDEFG that Flowkey teaches in, so for me I've found it easier using Flowkey
Thank you very much for a calm and informative review. (I came here after clicking through a dozen videos of screaming people trying to get from pun to pun while failing to actually review anything, and I have the feeling my brain needs some serious soothing now.)
I tried Simply Piano for a year. It did teach me quite a few basics and chords , however I will never use it again, because
-There are A LOT of commercial pop songs (and I do not like pop, at all)
-You have to complete a song in order to progress
So I was basically stuck in pop music hell and stopped practicing because of the lack of freedom I felt so learn with the songs I like (anything but pop and rock, basically).
Can't say anything about flowkey yet, just installed it, but from what I see it has much more variety than SP (videogame music, anyone?), which I think is already a big plus.
thanks for sharing your experience!
Good review but you missed one of the best features of Simply piano, Play Beta, that actually addresses many of the issues you call out. To me Play has been the best for song learning and the sheet music with feedback is awesome.
So Flowkey will not be audible on an android phone if connected by Midi. Confirmed by customer support (you need to have another app running in the background to "hear" your keyboard). SimplyPiano works perfectly well.
I haven't tried neiter but cheap Synthesia + hundreds of quality free instruction vids on CZcams should do the trick.
Hi Charles, thanks for the informative comparison. Which of the two would you recommend for improving sight-reading skills? I'm coming back to piano after a long break and even though I passed my Grade 6 exam before, I failed the sight-reading part. I always struggle through the reading part and then rely on muscle memory to actually play the pieces, but I want to be able to read in real-time as my inability to read music fast ruins my enjoyment of playing.
I really like your approach used to explain the differences between these two apps. One bad thing Flowkey has, it's that sometimes it fails to register the note one plays... Thus not letting one advance with the song.
Simply piano also fails to recognize notes sometimes, it’s not just a flowkey thing.
I had this problem with Flowkey, less so with SP.
@@interestingstuff8932 We noticed this with the kids playing because the tablet is listening for the sounds being played. I have bought a midi cable which connects the piano to the tablet which then picks up all the notes being pressed via the cable and not being picked up by the tablet microphone. Seems much better. Also with a 2 male to 1 female 3.5mm jack merge cable, can take both piano and tablet outputs to a single jack socket so we can use headphones and practice in silence.
my problem isn't it doesnt register notes, but sometimes ill press a wrong note and it will recognize it as correct
Is this with a midi adapter? I never have any problems using midi rather than the mic with flowkey.
You literally have a referral link as the first thing in the description.
... I was just thinking the same thing. How “honest” of a review can this be if you have an affiliate link?!?!
Because h flowkey won
@@jeffreypounds9956 I compared them myself. And I have to say this review is quite biased towards flowkey. It does not mention a few of the nicest features of simply piano e.g. the handsfree operating. Not saying flowkey is not good or better just saying this may be "his" honest opinion but it is by far not an unbiased nor balanced review.
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I started with Simply Piano but I didn't like the way they use numbers on the music instead of using the note name. With the left hand the little finger is on the c but on the music score a 5 is above the note. I was trying to learn the note names but all I saw were the numbers and it was very distracting for me. I see Flowkey doesn't use numbers to identify the note therefore I can learn the notes and their positions on the bar line. I have cancelled my account with Simply Piano and am starting with Flowkey.
Do a comparison between Simply Piano and Piano Academy! The top apps imo.
thanks for the suggestiion :)
i don't really like learning songs in simply piano i only love their courses
But in flowkey i like leaning songs but i can't chose what to start with in their corses
So i use both🙂👍
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
Good choice
more power to you!
What a chad
I have been doing simply piano for a year and is getting ready to play fur Elise :) flowkey was a little hard for me to get around and stuff
Fur Elise is a beautiful piece. Have fun with it!
In my experience flowkey is for people who already know how to play atleast a bit. I am a 3rd grade student in art school and flowkey is a great way to relax from all of the other stuff I have to play
Simply piano is a great way to start and then you can start using flowkey and it will be easy :)
Totally agree is absurd the apps don't have a metronome. However, with wait mode, you can run a separate metronome. I learned guitar first, and had a simple small battery operated metronome, and it works well with wait mode.
Thank you! This video is exactly what I was looking for. I learned sheet music in HS but I was always writing down the notes, rather than sight reading. I can play very well, but I skipped the beginning steps so it’s affecting me. Trying to go back to the basics, I think it’ll be flowkey for me! 😃
You’re very welcone
I feel like flowkey has more customization/setting options when compared to simply piano. But it doesn’t look as fun which is where some people might find it hard to choose.
I bought Flowkey and I am **really disappointed** about the software.
- You cannot play using your VST
- You cannot play with headphones
Hey Panos, I’ve played with headphones using logic so not sure what you’ve experienced
It’s probably a tablet limitation. If you run it through a laptop it’s likely much more flexible where the tablets often do not multiask in that way.
Thank you so much for this video! You explained everything very well and clear. I’m going to go with Flowkey.
Good luck with your music and stay safe brother!❤️
Among all these apps, which one shows the correct finger to use and how to transition position gracefully?
I believe both do!
For complete beginner which one will help me a lot between yousician, flowkey, and simply piano? I live at rural village, i didnt have teacher at my village, so app the only way i can learn piano
Hi Remu, are you a complete beginner or do you have some experience?
@@CharlesCleyn complete beginner, i never play piano before
@@CharlesCleyn I was wondering the same thing? I hope you respond to this question. For a complete beginner, yousician, flowkey, or simply piano?
yup respond
ı started learning piano 2 weeks ago with simply piano , ı was a complete beginner too. ı think simply piano is good for beginners . there is some stuff that the. app lacks but in general it is a nice app.
*”Learn songs better with flowkey, link in description, it’s freaking awesome!!!!”*
Time Stamp?
@@heartyandsnowballgirl158 oh It’s not in the video, It’s a joke because Daniel Thrasher’s old videos had a sponsorship at the end and it used to say those words
If Bradley Cooper were a pianist
Obviously not working out so much
@@Tomzupp One of the wonderful benefits of being a pianist instead of movie star
He is.
How much does Flowkey cost? My little sister learns with simply piano, she has a trial and she likes it but dad doesn't wanna buy her the premium version cuz it is too expensive (in our countries currency) so i want to download it for her. I am a pianist tho. So you probs wonder why i don't teach her. She doesn't want it, she only wants to learn with apps cuz she says it is more fun
£109.99 (£9.16 a month) sorry I'm british and your probably American
Hey Lana, I talk about the price 7:18 does that help?
If your little sister is less then 12 years then SimplyPiano is better flowkey is a little bit harder
thanks very much. i wish i had watched this video before signing up with simply piano. but you are absolutely right, simply piano works for total beginners like me. but there are things i did not like, some of which you have pointed out.
Hello Charles! Great app reviews. I’ve seen some of your other videos comparing other piano learning apps and I have to ask which one would you prefer for someone that wants to learn that also plays another instrument? Thanks again!
Thanks so much! Wait mode and separating each hand I believe is a factor I need. I guess I’ll try Flowkey
I have tried SimplyPiano but i have never tried flokey
Hi im thinking to pay the sub for flowkey, is it applicable to digital piano like casio s1000 while i practice on it using the usb port or bluetooth?
thanks for your info. liked.
You don't need to connect any port. Just use the speakers and the phone/tablet microphone will capture the sounds correctly.
the casio should work with flowkey plugged into a tablet or computer - initially i used an OLD (1990s) Casio 61 key keyboard and that worked. i do not recommend just having the app use the microphone off of a tablet or computer/laptop - it is not as reliable and can lead to frustration. i currently use a Yamaha P125 with iOS plugged in and works flawlessly. good luck!
Hi Charles...I'm looking for an app that is "suitable" for accoustic piano's as for what i've been reading, they lack some understanding of getting the right notes that are being played. Do you recomend any app?
I'm a 46 years old with almost no knowledge of piano...yeah...quite old to learn but eager to learn.
I'm taking some personal lessons from a teacher but at a rate of 1 per week my improvement is quite slow.
I would like to add some other option to my piano education at home. I was keen on Skoove or flowkey...
Let me know you thoughts
They all struggle with that as it requires a good acoustic environment and a piano that is concert tuned. You can likely get a better Mic and position it near the cabinet but even that won’t touch the MIDI connectivity.
In my opinion, you’re better off grabbing Alfred’s adult guide to piano series books and going through those if you cannot get good note recognition. I recommend those even if you can get good note recognition, but even more so if you cannot.
Grab the All in one level one course.
www.alfred.com/alfreds-adult-piano-courses/b/
just purchased a Yamaha PSR E473, got 3 months FREE flowkey - but it doesn't work... I hooked it up per instructions, and at first (about 8 minutes) it worked great, but then it didn't - I wouldn't get audio through the keyboard - looked everywhere for a fix - repeated the setup many times - same result - reached out to support with flowkey - TERRIBLE CS - I basically got questions, and NO answers - total waste of time.
iv'e been using the simply piano for a little while and the finger numbers on the chord aren't helpful atall. they definitely need to give an option to enable or disable finger numers.
Flowkey was better to use for me instead of Simply Piano. Although I stopped paying cause I lost interest. Now im starting to comeback
Maybe go for the lifetime cost?
Does the sheet music in Flowkey show the BPM at the beginning of the sheet music? My Yamaha piano has a metronome, so BPM is all I need to know.
This is the best comparison review between these two apps
Thank you! Super happy to hear that.
Can you skip a certain song and do a different that is on the same level? For example, if I hate John Lennon’s Imagine, can I do a different song?
Simply Piano will let it wait for you. I just don’t like it when someone sings the song. I can do that my self. I like it.
Is that not a flowkey affiliate link in the description? How are you gonna have that there and claim this isn’t sponsored?
the video isn't sponsored but I will get a kickback from the affiliate links if you decide to sign up, there's a simply piano one too.
At about 4.08 you tak
Ok about flowkey having a free plan, I haven’t found that, unless you’re talking about the 7 Day trial
Hey thank u for this video
I just have one question. Ive bought my first digital piano and i really wanna learn how to play the piano and the app is my only way to do so. Simply piano looks fine but i dont think that i would really enjoy working with it. Im not a child -18-, so is it ok if i go with Flowkey? I have no experience at all. I just dont wanna regret choosing the wrong app. Thank u.
Hey Grey, sure if you prefer to go with flowkey I don't think you'll regret it, the biggest piece about learning the piano is having the discipline to do so, if you are committed to showing up every day and practicing a little, flowkey will be fine for you.
Charles Cleyn thank u so much ☺️
why doesn't she mention it also available on Androids Ever ¿¿¿
You should try Piano Marvel, it's amaaaazzing!!!!
How many octaves needed for midi? I have 61 keys but I need one for travel. Two octaves eno?
Ill purchse flowkey!
Hope you have fun with it!
I watched a whole simply poano add before this
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I like your tutorials and reviews (and music 😃). Could you make video about MIDI sound management on iOS. For example when I connect Casio PX-870 (as simple MIDI keyboard) to my iPad to use with Simply Piano I can listen to sounds of piano from piano’s own speakers and adjust volume on iPad for iPad sounds. But when I connect Yamaha MX49 that has two-way USB and no own speakers, it plays on headphones (or audio out) both its own and iPad sounds. However the volume on the iPad that is routed to Yamaha is fixed to max on iPad. This makes much higher volume from iOS than the MX own sounds. There are apps that manage audio that I have not tested like Audiobus that are used for samplers mostly. Should I get this or do something else? Can you explain all this two-way USB connection on iOS.
Hi Robert, thanks for watching and thanks for the nice words. I'm not too familiar with midi on iOS since I mostly work on desktop but this is something I want to learn more about so I will dig into it.
simply piano no wait mode?
Linear
Hi Charles, can you please make a review for piano academy (piano lesson app iOS by yokee) thanks
I’ve been trying simply piano and piano academy. I like them both and I made good progress with both. I like the sheet music part of simply Piano very much, you don’t have that with piano academy, on the other hand Josh the teacher from piano academy is very cute (I know that shouldn’t count but it does for me). The price for both is similar and you can have several accounts for family members in both apps. I also tried Flowkey - which was my favorite till I got to simply piano, Yousician and skoove. Skoove didn’t work so well for me. Any opinions?
For apps that "listen" and give the student feedback, do I need I need a piano with Bluetooth? USB? Or does it just send info via the device microphone to the app? I'm a total beginner so feedback is important. I'm looking at Yamaha P125 or Roland FP-30. Yamaha only has USB; Roland has Bluetooth. Will one or the other give me access to feedback with most of the apps out there (Simply Piano, FlowKey, Usician, etc.?) Thanks for the helpful review.
USB MIDI. A Midi control keyboard has no sounds, it sends data to your pc and the sounds are synthesized in your pc. Get one with full sized keys, but make sure reviews of keybed are good. I have NovationSL MK3 for example, but an Arturia Keylab Essential would be a good cheap option for $200. Remember tho, no sounds within the device itself, but they (some) will come with sound program downloads for your PC.
And i would assume flowkey and simply piano have their own sounds. I use Melodics.
@@scamlikely1442 Thanks.
I really like simplypiano, but the fact you cant isolate the hands is really concerning
Had simply piano 🎹 for 18 months can play 378 3 star songs about 100 2 star
Great video. Very honest and helpful. Thanks! Greetings from Argentina.
Thanks Charles , Greta videos ,
My husband takes guitar lessons and he has for four years and he pays 400 a month. He still can’t play a song. These apps are cheap.
What about Skoove?
What about piano maestro
Haven't heard of that one but could be good!
I love simply piano😍😍😍😍
I tried FlowKey on the iPad with my 61 key MIDI controller and ran into a big roadblock. The FlowKey app recognizes the MIDI input just fine, but it does not produce it's own sound for the notes. Since my controller does not have a sound module I cannot hear the notes being played. They suggested I run GarageBand as a background process, but that doesn't work because iOS shuts the app down after 15 seconds of being in the background. I'm wondering if any of these learn-to-play-piano apps produce their own sounds? Or do they all rely on the user's keyboard to produce the piano sound?
I believe all the apps have there own piano sounds or you can also use the pianos sounds in any DAW if you have one.
@@CharlesCleyn Flowkey does not produce its own piano sounds. Neither GarageBand nor Cubasis will continue to run in the background in iOS 13 for more than about 15 seconds.
Flowkey support replied to me and said they intend to add piano sounds in the future. They also pointed me to a separate app called iGrand Piano. This app will run successfully in the background and play the sounds for me.
So I'm finally up and running with Flowkey and I think it would be helpful to tell other MIDI controller players about these challenges with Flowkey when comparing it to other similar applications.
Try piano marvel!
Is any Indian music of Simply piano or Flowkey
Hi guyz. Is there any musician here who could tell me which ap is best to learn accompaniments only, in order to sing along ? Seems they all focus on piano full song with melody included. Thanks in advance for any advice. :) cheers
thanks for this great review. do you have by chance reviewed the Pianoforall? thanks
you're very welcome, I don't have a review on that but I'll take note of it!
Hey I did flowkey before but I deleted it then I re-downloaded it it has been a month i haven’t downloaded flowkey but I did yesterday and we forgot how to use it can u do a Tourtle of how to start it? Ima sorry how my spelling is
Yes, there is one in my channel page. I have many different piano reviews for you.
Simply Piano is great. You can put it on Practice and it will wait for you. L.
I was told simply piano is the only one you can find easily a cracked fully unlocked version, flowkey not. I don't have a piano yet but will check both apps at some point.
Yeah I found a cracked version of simply piano, ive been playing SP for months but since the progress seems slow, I wanted to try flowkey but I couldn't find a working cracked app. if you find one please let me know.
Flowkey. Like in Vikings?
Thank great review .. I’m going to stick with flowkey
Many keyboards have built- in metronomes ..
Do any of the apps has Chopin's Winter Wind tutorial?
At 15 you talk about what flowkey looks like but you don't show it.
Can you please remind me, which of the apps had a feature when u can press any piano note to play the track again instead of pressing the screen of my tab?
flow key, simply piano, rocksmith +
Hi, I am from India.What should I do after completing simply piano?
If you feel comfortable with it then I'd recommend doing your own learning on youtube!
@@CharlesCleyn ok😊
@@CharlesCleyn Sir, For learning from CZcams, It needs lots of research and I don't know about the different types music. So, How can I learn completely?
@@rtarts1524 have you completed simply piano yet?
@@CharlesCleyn yes
Thank you!
you're welcome, are you playing piano?
@@CharlesCleyn Yes, I started playing the piano at 3 till I was a teen but I wasn't too keen. And now that I'm older, I miss it. Summer has begun so I'd like my kids to learn. Because of the current pandemic, I have decided to use an app. My kids started with Simply Piano (trial). After watching your video, I downloaded Flowkey. My seven year old says he enjoyed Flowkey more than Simply Piano... He says that he is learning better with Flowkey. It's his first day, so let's see how it goes! He's excited to learn songs but I told him to complete the courses first lol! I'll be purchasing Flow key's one year subscription. Thanks again for the review!
Is simply piano free? Just asking.
no it is not
Genuinely reviewed 👌
thanks for watching
I got a simply piano ad on this video.
Some of the criticism to Simply Piano is either addressed or not fully true.
1) simply piano also has a wait-mode (by now)
2) learning left and right hand separately is usually part of the lesson of each song
some criticism is very valid:
1) i do miss is the repeat-section button
2) sometimes the drums you get while learning a song have a really difficult rhythm and i would rather just have a normal click/beat.
flowkey all the way
Why is there link with you name to flowkey in your description if your saying in the title that it is not a sponsored video? Your are being blatantly deceptive.
hey Alex, that’s an affiliate link. Use it or don’t. It’s up to you. Sponsored videos are out right paid. This video was not sponsored. No one is forcing you to click on the link.
Then why is there no simply piano link huh
Then why is there no simply piano link huh
@@CharlesCleyn i am not talking about me not clicking the link. Your title says honest, then you have to be transparent about these kind of things.
Hi Charles, thank you for the review. Would you please tell me if there are any songs by Giovanni Marradi on either piano software?
Simply piano
Tenho uma playlist teclado do zero e vou fazer uma do simply piano, vem conhecer , abraço tmj
Flowkey is the best
I tried SIMPLY PIANO (in french). I liked it. The thing is that you have not a global view of the lessons, going to the left, and going to the left and so on you can feel lost. And when restarting difficult to remember where you finished last time. The price is a bit expensive reason why I am looking for another apps, it’s seems that flowkey is not the good alternative solution. Anybody have an idea?
Piracy
Hola alguien me regala una cuenta de flowkey, porque no tengo para comprar.
Good info👍🏻thanks
Simply piano isn’t free
Yes I am a big man child 🧒 lol
Is flow key on Android?
Yes I believe so
SIMPLE PIANO OS BETTER
I have learned piano on CZcams and can play fur elise
Playing A section of fur Elise is easy. Playing remaining sections is difficult. Can you play complete song?
People. Stop it with the apps and get a music teacher. You are going to regret your bad habits later when you are unable to improve your technique unless you do specific work to lose the bad habits. It’s not just about technique either - an app cannot teach musicianship.
Good feedback Nando. I must say though that not everyone is fortunate to have a music teacher and these apps make learning piano very economical.
@@CharlesCleyn yes,I agree with you that some people want to learn it at a cheap price.
Only a small portion of people can afford it.
Hang on. I’ve had simply piano for a while now, I thought it was free?
You must be on essentials 1 OR you have a piano teacher who has you on for free.
I gave all her reveiw thumb down as no time does she be explain weather it will work or not, instedd need expensive equipment she doesn't be warning you if thatt in all reveiw she does
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