Nikon 180-400 First Look Review And Sharpness Comparisons

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  • Check out my "first look" hands-on review of the new Nikon 180-400 - includes sharpness tests against the 200-500, 80-400, 300 PF and 600 F4!
    In this first look review, I'll show you the cool new features of the lens and how it compares to both the big primes and the super zooms in Nikon's lineup. We'll also look at some extensive sharpness testing against four other lenses, examine AF speed, VR and even get a little field time in. Check it out!
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Komentáře • 277

  • @dinkobilic9078
    @dinkobilic9078 Před 6 lety +16

    The most relevant Nikon gear reviewer on youtube. Real work examples, concise and clear.

  • @mikeyaxman5345
    @mikeyaxman5345 Před 6 lety +22

    $12k vs $1400. I would expect nothing less than perfection.

  • @lvke0622
    @lvke0622 Před 6 lety +5

    I see a lot people are arguing how much more it cost comparing to 200-500/5.6, but there are a huge amount of difference for the pros; I recently sold my 200-400/4vr2, and I own 200-500 as well, the AF speed of the 200-500 does not match with 200-400/4vr2, it’s wayyyyy slow, and paring 200-400/4vr2 with 1.4x iii got the same result, way faster AF at 5.6 comparing to 200-500/5.6. And the same to sharpness as well.
    Thanks for the early review, Steve, can’t wait to get my hand on 180-400 in a couple of days here

  • @KenTheoriaApophasis
    @KenTheoriaApophasis Před 6 lety +24

    🤔 Results are in: the #1 absolute MOST obnoxiously overpriced Nikkor ever made. Further more a "5th wheel" lens.
    Nikon has answered a question that nobody was asking....HALF THE PRICE: used 600mm F4 nikkor and 200-500. "boom"

    • @backcountrygallery
      @backcountrygallery  Před 6 lety +11

      LOL, I agree, the price is obnoxious - $8000-$9000 I can see. I have some specific scenarios where I can use it, but even with that the price is so crazy makes it had to justify (why I rented it). I agree - For most people without any long glass and looking for a first lens, used 600 F4 and 200-500 would be perfect. Tons of flexibility and range :)

    • @KenTheoriaApophasis
      @KenTheoriaApophasis Před 6 lety +9

      i just picked up a 600mm f4 :P. yeahhh boiii

    • @backcountrygallery
      @backcountrygallery  Před 6 lety +3

      Congrats! No secret I love that lens!

    • @BenjaminWassink
      @BenjaminWassink Před 6 lety +3

      Theoria Apophasis (Fast) sport photographers would love it. There is no lens in this range, with this af speed, image quality and versatility. So to say that it is a 5th wheel is a little short through the corner as we say it in Dutch😉. of course the price is from another universe.

    • @TheForge10
      @TheForge10 Před 6 lety +2

      Nikon 200-500 is shit for sports action

  • @JonBoeckenstedt
    @JonBoeckenstedt Před 6 lety +85

    Don't suppose you have a video about convincing your wife that you need a $12,000 lens, do you?

    • @backcountrygallery
      @backcountrygallery  Před 6 lety +44

      LOL, wish I did - that would be the most popular video any photo channel has ever uploaded. :)

    • @cyberchick87
      @cyberchick87 Před 6 lety +18

      and one for convincing your husband aswell! 🤦‍♀️

    • @tomhughes5123
      @tomhughes5123 Před 4 lety +2

      yes send her on holiday , make out youv won a few quid , and it was cheaper than it actually was 😁😁😁😁 . when she starts moaning , tell her you took a loan out off the wrong people and theyre going to teach you a lesson "starting with your wife " 😀😀😀😀 your a bachelor again and free to use your lens how you want to ,

    • @50deserteagle
      @50deserteagle Před 4 lety +1

      Jon Boeckenstedt but at the high price I bet the outside is plastic.

    • @50deserteagle
      @50deserteagle Před 4 lety +1

      Is the outside plastic?

  • @safeharbor7
    @safeharbor7 Před 6 lety +5

    Always enjoy your videos Steve, very informative. Thumbs up as always.

  • @donald.kelley7000
    @donald.kelley7000 Před 6 lety +2

    Another Honest and Informative Review.... Thank You, Steve !!

  • @sbphotography3751
    @sbphotography3751 Před 6 lety +1

    Thanks Steve, always enjoy your reviews.

  • @mickmckean7378
    @mickmckean7378 Před 6 lety +1

    Well done Steve, very nicely delivered and great information as usual.

  • @maze400
    @maze400 Před 4 lety +2

    Compairing a $12,000.00 lens with a $1,200.00 lens? not fair. lol. What about the Tamron 200-600 G2 against the 150-500 Nikon?

  • @spoolindsm127
    @spoolindsm127 Před 6 lety +1

    Never knew those were buttons on the end of these exotic Nikon lenses. Good to know and another great review!

  • @Capcity44
    @Capcity44 Před 6 lety +1

    Great video as always. You gave really good insight and perspective on the performance, application and strengths/weaknesses of the 180-400. I've experienced the frustration of most of my lenses being unable to acquire focus quickly enough to get the shot, so for a working pro, this lens can be a game changer. For me, LOL, my game would have to change dramatically to buy it. Thanks for the honest reviews you give and the excellent ebooks.

  • @sanitykxlls3308
    @sanitykxlls3308 Před 5 lety +2

    Now this is a Sharpness IIIV
    diamond sword addition

  • @cardiacade
    @cardiacade Před 6 lety +1

    I'm not a Nikon shooter, but still love your videos. Keep up the top work!

  • @threshershrk
    @threshershrk Před 6 lety +2

    I have been watching as this lens gets into circulation to ultimately decide, but I have been hoping for a lens like this to use in aviation photography. One of the biggest challenges in this space for me has been that take off and landing shots are very frequently at significant distance, where photo passes for ground-to-air images generally are much closer. Taking a 600mm is ideal for the more distant aircraft, but then you wind up clipping the wings off as the range decreases. Two bodies are often not feasible. This might be just the ticket.

  • @Zeppy007
    @Zeppy007 Před 6 lety +7

    Great video as always Steve! Nice lens but priced way to high my opinion $12,396.95 and is at a higher price then our Nikon 600 E FLED's... I think at $8,999 or even under 10k people would flock to this lens but not at this price.

  • @magnusclaesson5843
    @magnusclaesson5843 Před 6 lety +6

    Still happy with my 300 PF. It might sound strange but the light and weight of the 300 pf f4 makes it versatile for me.

    • @isar-wildlife
      @isar-wildlife Před 6 lety

      Magnus Claesson so true. Even with the TC14 III awesome results.

    • @backcountrygallery
      @backcountrygallery  Před 6 lety +4

      Gotta agree - the 300PF is one of my favs. The size and weight absolutely make it a very versatile lens.

  • @johnhjic2
    @johnhjic2 Před 6 lety

    Another very well worded review I know you said its not a full review but so interesting. Thanks for your thoughts.

  • @tommydhayes
    @tommydhayes Před 6 lety +1

    Thanks Steve I've been thinking about this lens myself. I love my prime big telephotos but the versatility on this for travel may what I am looking for.

  • @unsu1115
    @unsu1115 Před 6 lety +3

    Hii, Steve, i would love to see a 600mm f4 E FL review! I'm saving money for it, and checking your full review would be very helpful!
    Go on with your ebooks! I have already bought the ones you have published and they're great!
    Have a nice day!

  • @TheForge10
    @TheForge10 Před 6 lety +2

    I used the 200-500 for horse eventing , big unwealdy and af slow as.Zoom ring was like moving the titanic

  • @WatchmanNiel
    @WatchmanNiel Před 6 lety +2

    Awesome review, thank you for your hard work! Now I know that saving up for a Nikon AF-S 600mm f/4E FL ED would be best, this zoom is way to pricey even though it is impressive, albeit with fairly noticeable vignetting.

    • @backcountrygallery
      @backcountrygallery  Před 6 lety

      FWIW, I wouldn't give up my 600E for this lens for what I do. Adding it, yes, replacing, no. So, I think your 600F4 idea is solid :)

  • @ArthurMG00
    @ArthurMG00 Před 6 lety +2

    Amazing video Steve! I was really curious about how the 180-400 would compare against the other nikon teles, and you definitely killed my curiosity! Ggreat stuff!

  • @fsmelo87
    @fsmelo87 Před 6 lety

    Amazing video as always! Thank you!

  • @MrExel47
    @MrExel47 Před 6 lety +2

    Thanks for the vieo Steve! I was really waiting for it. I remember us writing about it. I will most definately nt get it, because of the price. I´m still not sure if I should get the 400 f2.8 with 1.4x and 2x converter, or a 600 mm f4 (either won´t happen any time soon). Do you think with a D500 I´ll get enough light in a forest with f4? Currently I´m using the Sigma 150-600 mm Sport, but it´s prett slow and not sharp enough at 600 mm.

  • @Leicashootr
    @Leicashootr Před 6 lety

    Hi Steve, I very much enjoyed your review can’t wait for your next video. With love from the Netherlands 👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇳🇱

  • @carllicari3067
    @carllicari3067 Před 6 lety +12

    Great review, but comparing this lens @ $12,300 to the 200-500 @ $1400 is a bit curious, even if they have similar focal ranges. To even be mentioned in the same breath as the 180-400 makes the 200-500 the winner . This like comparing a D3400 to a D5. You're going to buy one without consideration to the other.

    • @backcountrygallery
      @backcountrygallery  Před 6 lety +16

      My main curiosity was how it compared against the 600 and 300 :) However, I've seen a lot of people asking about the 200-500 and 80-400 and I knew that if I didn't include those lenses, I'd hear about it LOL!

    • @nevakee716
      @nevakee716 Před 6 lety +6

      it's good to compare to show the difference of quality and to justify the price

    • @nevakee716
      @nevakee716 Před 6 lety

      and it's not that far compare to the price difference I would say, especially if you are on aps-c. But of course 1 stop better ;)

    • @adeetisharma5146
      @adeetisharma5146 Před 6 lety

      Carl Licari कुदूग

    • @Chrismzeller
      @Chrismzeller Před 6 lety +1

      I agree. Its refreshing to see that there isn't that much difference to be missing out on for 6x the price. Given that the Sigma Sport 150-600 is only 1/3 stop slower than the 180-400 and a hair sharper than the 200-500 at 600mm I think I'll take the savings. The weight is less and the extra acuity for 100mm more should make this a wash at least in the center. Wildlife subjects are usually toward the center. I care more about corners in landscapes.

  • @jaimeduncan6167
    @jaimeduncan6167 Před 6 lety +1

    The strength it has is ability to change focal length fast m, that can make or break a once in the life opportunity

  • @robeson1231
    @robeson1231 Před 6 lety +2

    Hi Steve, love your videos! Do you think there's any likelihood of Nikon making a lightweight 400mm F4 PF lens? That would pretty much be my dream lens atm.

    • @chennytango9298
      @chennytango9298 Před rokem

      I think the z400 4.5s lens now served this purpose.

  • @nickc2124
    @nickc2124 Před 5 lety +4

    How does this compare to the 200-400 f4/g? Does any have some comparisons?

    • @perfectbill1550
      @perfectbill1550 Před 4 lety

      I had 3 copies of the 200-400 and now the 180-400. The 180-400 is a fair amount better up to 400mm, but the images with the tc engaged are garbage.

  • @amirhatef7658
    @amirhatef7658 Před 6 lety

    First off,thanks Steve for this great video and possibly its next episode.Second,I have purchased your two great ebooks recently and they are really helpful,teaching me how to proceed in photography.Third,it might seem naive and simplistic,but after watching your video,except for legendary but expensive 600mm f/4E lens,I would stick to my 300 f/4E with tele-converter of 1.4 III.With converter,I reached 420 mm ,without it,I have 300mm in hand if I shoot with FX body.That almost covers the need for 180-400 without being obsessed for its higher price tag .Versatility,light weight,price wise,and being prime in terms of IQ are a few cons of having that little 300 mm f/4E,even with converter.

    • @backcountrygallery
      @backcountrygallery  Před 6 lety

      It covers the range, but keep in mind that the TC drops it to F5.6 at 400mm and this lens is F/4 at the same length. Still, it's a LOT of money for that extra stop. The one big advantage with the 300 PF + YC though is the size. That combo gets me shots just because I can squeeze it into places I can't take the big guns.

  • @ianbrown704
    @ianbrown704 Před 6 lety +1

    Nice review, and I guess a good example of "the law of diminishing returns" great lens but boy is it expensive, pro yes - amateur maybe not.

  • @bassangler73
    @bassangler73 Před 6 lety

    Thanks Steve, great review

  • @klackon1
    @klackon1 Před 6 lety

    Good heads up Steve, but here is why I will be keeping my Nikkor 300mm PF VR f4 + TC14EIII and Nikkor 200 - 500mm f5.6: 1) The 180 - 400mm f4 is so very expensive. 2) It weighs 3.5Kg. 3) I nearly always crop my images so would not benefit from the edge advantage over the 200 - 500mm f5.6. 4) My current lenses work so well with my D500 I have no need to "upgrade".

  • @JB19504
    @JB19504 Před 6 lety +5

    Another great video Steve. It was making me question my purchase of the 300 mm f4 with a 1.4 TC and my purchase of the Sigma 150-600 Contemporary until I looked at the price. Hahahah. What was I thinking?? Looking forward to your new book.

    • @NCDSLR
      @NCDSLR Před 6 lety +3

      Just my 2 cents...I think the 300mm f/4 is perhaps the best for BIF and fast action. Anything over the 300mm FoV would only make it far more challenging. The Nikkor 200-500mm has major issues in the AF by comparison even if I use it at 300mm. A Prime will always beat a zoom, so far, but, ultimately, it is you that matters :)

    • @klackon1
      @klackon1 Před 6 lety

      Nitin Chandra. I cannot agree with your assessment of the 200 - 500mm f.6 for BIF. I was fortunate to own one, aswell as a 300mm f4 PF ED VR + TC14EIII. I bought the 300mm f4 first and with or without the 1.4TC, it made for a brilliant BIF and wildlife lens in combination with my D500. About a year later I purchased a 200 - 500mm f5.6 and though much heavier, it hardly ever came off my D500. It got to the stage where my 300mm f4 was just gathering dust. For me, the 200 - 500mm f5.6 just seemed to snatch birds out of the sky. Both lenses are brilliant but I would go with the 200 - 500mm over the 300mm every day.

    • @nickc2124
      @nickc2124 Před 5 lety

      +Pete Draper do you have any experience with the new 500mm f5.6 pf that just came out. I’m wondering how it stacks up to the zoom 200-500mm? Especially on the D500 and D850.

    • @KonaLife
      @KonaLife Před 5 lety

      Nick C Most feedback I’ve seen/read online is that the 500mm PF is much sharper (and faster) than the 200-500mm. I have the 200-500, the 300mm PF, the D500, and now the D850. I can tell you that the 300mm PF with the 1.4x teleconverter stays pretty much glued to my camera. I just ordered the 500mm PF, and it will be arriving in early May. I can give you some further feedback then.

  • @jariol
    @jariol Před 6 lety +2

    The 180-400 seems to have a vignetting issue during the sharpness test or was that me

  • @erichuizar9828
    @erichuizar9828 Před 5 lety

    Hey Steve would love your opinion on the original 200-400mm vs the 200-500mm. Which in your honest opinion would be a better choice for me shooting surfers?

  • @Thomas-fk6ep
    @Thomas-fk6ep Před 6 lety

    Thanks for your videos!

  • @douglascarrphotography

    Hi Steve thx for the video but 5 years on how do you think the 180-400 would compare to the new 180-600 which is a nice range but the 180-400 is a f4 thx

  • @AnoopKumar-jh9iz
    @AnoopKumar-jh9iz Před 6 lety

    Hi STEVE, i have a Nikon D850 with 24-70E VR lens.i'm a jpeg shooter and what's the best in camera sharpness settings for this setup? Thanks for your valuable advice...

  • @Johnnieboyhk
    @Johnnieboyhk Před 6 lety

    Extremely good reviews
    !

  • @aussie8114
    @aussie8114 Před 6 lety +14

    At $19,000 l think this Aussie will wait to see if one magically appears under next years Christmas tree... l highly doubt it though 🎅🏻

    • @TonyTarantula
      @TonyTarantula Před 5 lety +1

      Did it happen last Christmas for you?

    • @aussie8114
      @aussie8114 Před 5 lety +1

      Tony Tarantula NOPE... Just socks and jocks ☹️

  • @LNTCSNT
    @LNTCSNT Před 4 lety +6

    completely irrelevant to compare the 180-40 with the 200-500. Would have been better to compare with 400F2.8 or 500F4 or the old 200-400 F4

  • @blakeparry1983
    @blakeparry1983 Před 6 lety

    Thanks for the first look steve - was really interested to see how it performed.
    Personally, i would have loved to have seen a slightly longer focal length than 400mm, but i can understand they do want to keep size and weight under control.
    I shoot a bit of sports (using a 120-300mm Sigma Sport and 500mm F4) - the 500 is awesome for the reach and bokeh but can get caught out when a player is coming towards me.
    Being able to flick the TC quickly and keep shooting would be a boon.
    That said, for the cost - near on $20k australian, the $6500 sigma wont be going anywhere

  • @grassrootsphotographysean4474

    HI Steve, sorry to trouble you, just wondering if you ever did a D5 review? I cant seem to find it in your video list, Many thanks for your time.

  • @Coltoh
    @Coltoh Před 6 lety

    Thanks for comparing against the 200-500. I just wore out the lock on mine but I can't slight it for the value. Still have 3 years left on the warranty anyway.

  • @gregoryrogalsky6937
    @gregoryrogalsky6937 Před 3 lety +1

    For $900 you can buy a used Nikkor 400 3.5 IF-ED AIS that is smaller faster sharper and lighter.

  • @allthingswildlifeyt1218
    @allthingswildlifeyt1218 Před 6 lety +4

    It would be good if nikon could make a 400mm f4 prime the size and weight of a 70-200, with a minimum focus distance of 1.8 meters, an in built teleconverter and at a price around $5000-6000.

    • @backcountrygallery
      @backcountrygallery  Před 6 lety +4

      I'd be all over that - I'd love to see something like the Canon 400 DO in the Nikon lineup and that TC is a great touch.

    • @allthingswildlifeyt1218
      @allthingswildlifeyt1218 Před 6 lety

      Steve Perry same. It would be a great lens for something like a d850 or a d500.

    • @darylbalfour7873
      @darylbalfour7873 Před 6 lety +1

      I’d hazard a guess that the next “big thing” will be Nikon announcing all their primes with a built-in 1.4x. Perhaps even a 2x on the 300 & 400 2.8s?

  • @stephenwilliams6682
    @stephenwilliams6682 Před 6 lety

    Great video Steve. I own the 200-500 and use it on 3 bodies, D810, D4S and D500 and am reasonably happy with image quality. The expense of the 180-400 is phew. Would it not be better to purchase the 200-400 at around £2500 uk?

  • @mnlt2000
    @mnlt2000 Před 6 lety

    Muchas gracias, muy bien explicado. Saludos //// Thank you very much, very well explained. regards

  • @mattandhisnikon
    @mattandhisnikon Před 3 lety +1

    How does this compare overall with the 200-400mm f4 VRII?

    • @backcountrygallery
      @backcountrygallery  Před 3 lety +1

      Pretty much better in every way. I've had both and never liked the 200-400.

  • @jaron2001
    @jaron2001 Před 5 lety

    Thanks for your videos

  • @zjsunny
    @zjsunny Před 6 lety

    Has any one tried extension tubes with nikons 500mm or 600mm primes? Which ones? How dose it affect the auto focus?

  • @merkin22
    @merkin22 Před 4 lety +1

    Did you eventually buy this lens? Love to hear your in the field experience with the teleconverter use re image quality. I've seen shot that are pretty great including with an added TC14. About to buy this lens, I think, and respect your reviews a lot! Thanks.

    • @perfectbill1550
      @perfectbill1550 Před 4 lety +1

      Did you get one? My copy is amazing at 400mm f4, but unusable with the TC engaged.

    • @perfectbill1550
      @perfectbill1550 Před 4 lety +1

      copy of steve reply from below comments:
      I did purchase it after about 9 or 10 months of deliberation. I like it - especially form 180-400, but not so much with the TC. As I mentioned in the video, I'd only get it if you plan on using it form 180-400. Also, it's almost as heavy as my 600 F/4, so keep that in mind if you are thinking of hand-holding (for some, the weight is an issue). Overall though, I like it. I don't use it nearly as much as my 600mm, but when you need a zoom in the 180-400 range, there's nothing better. It's prime-like quality.

  • @MarvinBoydCo
    @MarvinBoydCo Před rokem

    Do you think 80-400 is better than the 200-400 especially at 400?

  • @ericmiller9570
    @ericmiller9570 Před 6 lety

    Thank you for another great video and for all the great Nikon tips and tricks I've learned from watching your channel. I just started photographing wildlife 3 weeks ago with a D7200 and the 200-500. This is so fun and your Nikon tips have helped me a lot. Did you happen to shoot the field testing part of this video at Kensington? If so I would like to hear what you thought of it since that's my favorite park.

    • @backcountrygallery
      @backcountrygallery  Před 6 lety +1

      LOL, yup, I was in Kensington! I've been going there on and off for years, although I was really impressed with it last fall, and it gave me a couple of nice shots a few days ago, so I'm planning on heading back for more :) You know, once it warms up a little!!

  • @jacobgaysawyer337
    @jacobgaysawyer337 Před 6 lety

    cant wait for the full review :)

  • @alexabadi7458
    @alexabadi7458 Před 9 měsíci

    Nice work, thank you.

    • @alexabadi7458
      @alexabadi7458 Před 9 měsíci

      By the way, the Nikon 70-200mm f/2.8E VR + TC-14E III give you an excellent 100-300mm f/4
      Sharp and with very close focusing !

  • @mokkingbird
    @mokkingbird Před 3 lety

    What happens on video when you flip the TC on/off? Does it automatically black out as you switch, do you see the element moving across the frame, is there just a flash of black or gray, or what?
    I'm 100% sure I will never buy this lens and I will probably never rent it either, but the built-in TC is a pretty novel feature and it's piqued my curiosity.

  • @tobylukebass6234
    @tobylukebass6234 Před 6 lety

    fantastic review

  • @Stefan1968ful
    @Stefan1968ful Před 6 lety

    Another nice video, Steve. Great. This lens really leaves me with big question marks on my forehead but also with great interest... Here in Shanghai where I am living and working as an Expat, this lens is sold for 62.7k RMB what is about 8.4k Euro or 9.8k USD. And it comes with a 3 years global Nikon warranty. That is, compared with the 12k in Europe, actually 3.6k Euro cheaper. Still a huuuuuge and unreasonable and crazy amount of money. But...I was thinking to sell and replace some of my older glasses for it (Nikkor 200-500mm, 300mm 2.8 AF-S II) also for versatility reasons. This would reduce my lens park basically to a Nikkor 180-400mm and a Nikkor 600mm 4.0 FL on the long end. Still crazy, ah? :) But one thing is also clear: the Nikkor 200-500mm is a damn good lens, really impressive, especially in case you have a good copy of it.

  • @robertharlton3850
    @robertharlton3850 Před 5 lety

    Thank you!

  • @filmstudiojapan
    @filmstudiojapan Před 2 lety

    Would really value your opinion on this lens vs the AF-S 200-400mm VR I or II. I know the 180-400 is the superior lens, but how much in regards to actual sharpness. I think I can say safely I have a good copy of the 200-400 VR I but it's in need of VR service, and I am debating buying a second 200-400 to keep me afloat during prime shooting season, or either renting or buying this beast. It seems no one has done a legit side by side with these lenses, just allot of write ups saying "The 180-400 has more contrast".

  • @helthuismartin
    @helthuismartin Před 6 lety +1

    How many inch is the lenshood in diameter??????

  • @buc71x24
    @buc71x24 Před 6 lety

    Thanx, good info!

  • @timbliss8777
    @timbliss8777 Před 6 lety

    Great video as always Steve. Are you using the Nikon GPS unit on your D850? How do you like it? Does it get in the way?

    • @backcountrygallery
      @backcountrygallery  Před 6 lety

      Nope, I stopped using GPS awhile ago actually. I don't want people tracking down some of my more sensitive subjects with EXIF data.

    • @timbliss8777
      @timbliss8777 Před 6 lety

      Gotcha. Thought I saw one on your D850. Thanks.

  • @christosphillips3568
    @christosphillips3568 Před 6 lety +3

    Biggest downside of this lens is price, I would buy the 600 E FL for that kind of money and never look back.

  • @gerryvanmoorsel9345
    @gerryvanmoorsel9345 Před 6 lety +1

    how reasonable do you think it is to compare a $1,600.(200-500 mm) to a $16,000. 00 180-400 mm f4 , Steve ? looking at your sharpness test comparing these two lenses images, I'm now more than ever, happy with my AFS 200-500 mm f5.6 lens, focus breathing and all. The 200-500 mm lens is outstanding for the money when compared to a $16,000.00 lens. Just saying.

  • @rhinoTube
    @rhinoTube Před 6 lety

    Great video Steve, I love all your work, always very professional. I want to ask a question about focus on subjects at a long distance, I have a 200-500 and as you mentioned I do have trouble getting far away subjects to be sharp, but sometimes they do come out sharp, I found that if I repeatedly focus on the subject I eventually get one or two kind of sharp images, is there some kind of technique that wil help improve with this issue? I have also tried stopping down to f8, but the change is not really that much.

    • @chrisb1587
      @chrisb1587 Před 6 lety

      Callie van Huyssteen interested in this as well as I also have the 200-500 and have this issue.

    • @backcountrygallery
      @backcountrygallery  Před 6 lety +1

      This is the problem:
      czcams.com/video/mrZk6q4mjzg/video.html

    • @chrisb1587
      @chrisb1587 Před 6 lety

      Steve Perry thank you! That’s exactly it!

    • @NCDSLR
      @NCDSLR Před 6 lety

      Would help if you posted an actual example. For instance, if you are shooting in any "creative" mode, the shutter speed is the first one to be dropped unless shooting in shutter priority mode. I recently got the 200-500mm and well...By the time I tracked a bird in flight and released the shutter, my arms did not hold up :)
      Oh well...Still learning the new weight, but, I simply cannot use this lens as the 300mm and therefore I make a conscious effort to increase the SS unless I have rested arms. The 200-500mm is quite heavy and unless you have the strength and stamina, you would need a tripod or monopod for stable shots or shoot at a higher SS.

  • @barneyrubble9309
    @barneyrubble9309 Před 6 lety

    I also understand that there is a software upgrade for the D500 that will allow the use of all AF points with this lens when the TC is engaged so no loss of AF performance at f5.6. maybe you can confirm that Steve?

  • @checkermi
    @checkermi Před 6 lety

    Hi Steve.
    This is a very informative video.
    Can you tell me if the current Nikkor 600 mm f4 better image quality as the Nikkor 600 mm f4 G.
    With kind regards from Bavaria

    • @backcountrygallery
      @backcountrygallery  Před 6 lety

      It's a little better. I compared them and found the "E" is slightly sharper than the "G" wide open. I also like the rendering of the "E" better and it seems to take my 1.4TC III better. It's also lighter and better balanced for hand-holding, although not as well balanced for gimbal use.

  • @SuperFucdat
    @SuperFucdat Před 5 lety

    Hi Steve. Great video & insight to what looks like a great lens. I’m going to be in the market in the next couple of months for a supertelephoto & am stuck between this & the 600f/4. I like shooting wildlife & currently have the 70-200 f/2.8 & the 200-500 f5.6 & as much as I love the versatility of this lens mostly find I need the reach to get closer to the subject. Saying that I imagine with this lens it might be easier to get shots of birds in flight. I know this is quite an old video but I was wondering how you’ve found this lens now that you’ve had it a while & what scenarios you use it over the 600mm f/4?

    • @backcountrygallery
      @backcountrygallery  Před 5 lety

      I did end up buying the lens - and still use my 600 F/4 for wildlife (and BIF) quite a bit more. If I could only have one, it's not even a contest - 600 F/4 all the way.

    • @perfectbill1550
      @perfectbill1550 Před 4 lety

      Did you end up buying the 600 f4 to go with your 200-500? or the 180-400?

  • @Chrismzeller
    @Chrismzeller Před 6 lety

    So, will you be adding this to the 600 mm and 400mm 2.8 and if you could have only one of the 3 which would it be (as they all cost about the same)? Thanks for the video Steve!

    • @backcountrygallery
      @backcountrygallery  Před 6 lety +1

      No 400 2.8, it's that lens or this one that will be added to the 600F4. If only one? 600 without the least bit of hesitation.

  • @rschellie
    @rschellie Před 6 lety

    Great review but I have a question concerning the camera you used. Many people who enjoy your channel don't own a Nikon 850 but would be interested on how the two lenses (Nikon 180-400mm and 200-500mm F/5.6) compare mounted on a D500 or D7500. Thanks Steve. Since a crop sensor camera tends to use the center of the lens, I would guess that the comparison would be much closer.

    • @NCDSLR
      @NCDSLR Před 6 lety

      Totally agree...Wildlife is not about focus and re-compose unless you are in a zoo or similar...Has to be bullseye within the second or two...

  • @nitinjain2091
    @nitinjain2091 Před 6 lety

    Hello sir, great detailed video. Would request you to make a video on birding with entry level dslr with kit lens. I have Nikon d3300 which I use with AF-P 70-300 vr. Your valuable tips and tricks for getting the best out of what we have will be very helpful. Thanks in advance. Hoping for a reply.

  • @chrisharris8600
    @chrisharris8600 Před 6 lety

    Hi Steve, I was referring using the DX Crop mode on the D850 not cropping in post ...

    • @backcountrygallery
      @backcountrygallery  Před 6 lety

      Same thing. Cropping in post or in camera gets you the same result (well, assuming DX crop in post of course).

  • @bradymyers3675
    @bradymyers3675 Před 6 lety

    Have any experience with the 200-400mm f4 vrII?

  • @kasperwieck2904
    @kasperwieck2904 Před 6 lety

    Very good and detailed video! What schc memorycards do you recommend for wildlife photography? How big and how fast?

    • @backcountrygallery
      @backcountrygallery  Před 6 lety

      I only use XQD now, so I can't say for sure. Sorry.

    • @kasperwieck2904
      @kasperwieck2904 Před 6 lety

      Steve Perry Okay, but would you recommend the d810 over the d7200 for birds in flight?

  • @jackmarkham1516
    @jackmarkham1516 Před 6 lety +2

    Do you let VR run at fast shutter speeds over 1/500s?

    • @NCDSLR
      @NCDSLR Před 6 lety

      Just sharing my experience, yes, I always let the VR be on. Besides the stabilization, it also helps in keeping a steady focus on the subject. This, in turn, help to get the right moment for the shutter release while tracking...

    • @backcountrygallery
      @backcountrygallery  Před 6 lety +1

      Depends on the lens, some seem to work better than others at faster speeds. I'd have to use this one a lot more before I can say one way or the other.

  • @PinchnerHouse
    @PinchnerHouse Před 6 lety

    I’m liking my 300 PF more and more.

  • @kenhenley7599
    @kenhenley7599 Před 6 lety

    Out of my league!

  • @StafferryWildlifeGallery

    Honestly, the sharpness test between 250-550 and 200-500 at 500mm, i think the corner of 200-500 is a little better than 250-550. But for the focus part, yeah....I am suffer as you, the 200-500 f/5.6 can't focus on the small bird.

  • @ericfernandezrubas1824

    May I know what brand is your lens foot for the Nikkor 200-500 f5.6?

  • @LilioCamere
    @LilioCamere Před 5 lety

    Hi Steve! Are there going to be anymore videos about the 180-400mm?
    Love your reviews!

    • @backcountrygallery
      @backcountrygallery  Před 5 lety +2

      Nope, not a video. I just purchased the lens and I'm planning an article on the website for it. Full video reviews are just too time consuming so future reviews will come in the form of articles.

    • @LilioCamere
      @LilioCamere Před 5 lety

      @@backcountrygallery Alright, thanks for the reply!

  • @HotGates
    @HotGates Před 6 lety

    Very nice Steve, but just 1 question, The 200-500 has focus breathing and am wondering if the 300PF has focus breathing or is it a true 300?

    • @backcountrygallery
      @backcountrygallery  Před 6 lety +1

      I haven't formally tested the 300 PF for it, but if it does, it seems minimal. I could be wrong though. I do know that at 300mm, it's always the same crop or tighter than any lens I've tested it against.

    • @albrechtpistor317
      @albrechtpistor317 Před 3 lety

      @@backcountrygallery üp

  • @andyandycapt7947
    @andyandycapt7947 Před 6 lety

    great steve! how is the 850 that got wet doing, did you shoot this with it?

  • @chrisharris8600
    @chrisharris8600 Před 6 lety

    Do you ever use the crop mode on the D850 instead of the Teleconvert? Have you ever tested for quality difference?

    • @backcountrygallery
      @backcountrygallery  Před 6 lety

      See this post on my site:
      backcountrygallery.com/use-teleconverter-crop-image/
      Every time I test it, it's better to use the TC for overall image quality, but there is a bit more to it and the post goes into it :)

    • @chrisharris8600
      @chrisharris8600 Před 6 lety

      Hi Steve, I was referring to the DX Crop mode on the D850 not cropping in post ...

  • @Swindie
    @Swindie Před 3 lety

    We’re you in Michigan for any of this video? One of the places you’re in looks super familiar lol

  • @Johnnieboyhk
    @Johnnieboyhk Před 6 lety

    After seeing ur review, I decide that I will get the 600mm f4 rather than buying the 180-400mm! Despite the 180mm-400mm is very handy, the 600mm has a much better price and sharpness!

    • @backcountrygallery
      @backcountrygallery  Před 6 lety

      I love my 600 F4 - not a bad choice at all. Comes down to how you're going to use the lens. For me, 600 F4 is first, then this one.

    • @Johnnieboyhk
      @Johnnieboyhk Před 6 lety

      Thank U, Steve

  • @thisis5123
    @thisis5123 Před 6 lety

    Which 600 was used in the comparison ? the G or the E? just wondering, thank you.

    • @backcountrygallery
      @backcountrygallery  Před 6 lety

      The new "E" version.

    • @thisis5123
      @thisis5123 Před 6 lety

      Nice. and thanks for providing your work and these results. I'm a Canon shooter, right now the next shortest lens below my EF 600 f/4L IS II is my EF 70-200f/2.8 IS II so i'm looking to get either the 200-400, 300, or the 400 f/4 DO possibly. I wish the Canon 300 f/4L IS was as good as the Nikon 300 f/4E PF. The 300 f/4's are awesome for portability.

    • @backcountrygallery
      @backcountrygallery  Před 6 lety

      Personally, I love that 400 DO - wish Nikon had one...

    • @thisis5123
      @thisis5123 Před 6 lety

      From the people who own it and have used it I hear great things. I haven't used it personally. I'm a bit of a rendering freak. Not a pixel peeping type, but I can definitely see differences in the way lenses render an image when looking at it globally, outside of just resolution. Maybe i'll have Canon send me the 400 to compare. I'm a CPS member of 6 months but haven't even used it yet haha.

  • @gregoryhamilton6161
    @gregoryhamilton6161 Před 5 lety

    brilliant!

  • @yitzchallevi8208
    @yitzchallevi8208 Před 6 lety

    Please compare the 180-400 to the Canon 1200mm f/5.6L... I am sure you will find the results interesting!

  • @Narwaro
    @Narwaro Před 6 lety

    I dont know about other people but corner sharpness is literally the thing I care least about. If you have a subject in the corner you are doing something wrong. But yes, 12k$ get you really top-notch technical image quality. It better do for that kind of money. But again, for 1000$ you get yourself the best 200mm f4 AF Micro if you need technical image quality.

  • @shang-hsienyang1284
    @shang-hsienyang1284 Před 6 lety +1

    Thanks! Now I know where to spend my money if I win the lottery.

  • @rproctor83
    @rproctor83 Před 6 lety +1

    I LOVE the 200-500 for what it offers at it's price point, it's truly incredible and if there was a mirrorless lens that could compete I would have left Nikon for Sony, but the 200-500 has kept me with a clunky dslr. The new 180-400 is really nice, but I couldn't swallow a $10k+ price increase for minimal returns. With that said, my biggest gripe about the 200-500 is the auto focus speed, and as you pointed out it's slow focus is a large hindrance. I would love a faster focus, but not for $10 thousand dollars... For that kind of money focus should happen instantaneously like magic! Anyways, I'm gonna stick with the 200-500, would love to see it adapted to a mirrorless body though.

    • @backcountrygallery
      @backcountrygallery  Před 6 lety

      I've seen posts where the idea was floated of a 200-500 "sports" model with faster AF for another $500 or so. I think that would be a fantastic move for them - I'd want one for sure.

  • @capailldubh
    @capailldubh Před 6 lety +2

    Makes the 200-500 even better value :-)

  • @joecerda630
    @joecerda630 Před 6 lety

    What is that tripod mount called?

    • @backcountrygallery
      @backcountrygallery  Před 6 lety

      It's a gimbal mount - specifically a Wimberley WH-200. I can't recommend it highly enough for long lens work.

  • @AndyAstbury
    @AndyAstbury Před 6 lety

    Hi Steve - according to the MTF charts it should really best my original 200-400.
    Although a Nikon user, I do use the Canon 200-400 quite a bit, I wonder how it compares to that. Any clue?

    • @backcountrygallery
      @backcountrygallery  Před 6 lety

      Not sure, that Canon has a heck of a reputation, it would be an interesting comparison.

  • @lwanfry
    @lwanfry Před 6 lety

    I wasn't expecting a zoom lens even at that price point to outperform a big prime but the result is somewhat disappointing anyway to me (for the price I mean, otherwise it's an awesome lens).

  • @quicktastic
    @quicktastic Před 6 lety

    180-400 is certainly quite the lens. Kind of impressive though how the 200-500 does considering the price difference.

    • @backcountrygallery
      @backcountrygallery  Před 6 lety +1

      I thought so too, although I also think I have a very good copy of the 200-500. My first two copies of the 200-500 would have been destroyed by this lens.

    • @quicktastic
      @quicktastic Před 6 lety

      Indeed. I was fortunate to get a good copy. Thank you for the first look at this lens.