What makes each Guilty Gear Strive character good/bad?

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  • @dizzyspellss
    @dizzyspellss Před rokem +64

    We all know Ky is healthy strong. You aren’t fooling any of us Kizzie

  • @wildzide
    @wildzide Před rokem +74

    When discussing grapplers people only see the command grab and don't realise that to run your command grab vortex first you need to get in, try to walk one of the top tiers in this game to the corner with Pot and then tell me a player can't work magic with a grappler, to do that consistently with Pot you need to be tiers above the other player in terms of both neutral and defensensive skill

    • @kriscotd76
      @kriscotd76 Před rokem +7

      Well said ..It’s always people on the outside looking in who don’t understand this ..

    • @xxxikarixxxkb
      @xxxikarixxxkb Před rokem +6

      I just don't entirely agree, in majority of games the grappler gets mad health, an option to move across the stage without totally swallowing zoning, and something that makes sure people don't just jump in on you all the time. It's as simple as just landing and capitalizing on that one lucky hit and then making them guess wrong over and over with the only consequence being maybe a reversal that they won't eat that much damage from thanks to their high health pool. Making a come back with Anji or Millia is incredibly different than making a come back with Potemkin and the same could be said for other grapplers that are low tier in other games lol.

    • @cerdi_99
      @cerdi_99 Před rokem +16

      @@xxxikarixxxkb "in majority of games"???? the only grappler i've seen with actual movement is potemkin thx to hammerfall

    • @kriscotd76
      @kriscotd76 Před rokem +2

      @@xxxikarixxxkb in most games ! But I’n most games the grappler normally has very good poke normals..The fact that pot fastest button is 5frames is pathetic..if his jab was 4-3 frames and or hit mid on standing he would be well balanced to get faster characters off of him in the corner ..they also shouldn’t of took away his wake up super ..So characters like gorilla gold won’t be going to town on him in the corner with no risk..

    • @xxxikarixxxkb
      @xxxikarixxxkb Před rokem +3

      @@cerdi_99 Gief has green hand and lariat to deal with projectiles, Tager has sledge hammer that is a guard point attack, Beowulf has command air dashes, full screen reversals, and a projectile that can be plus and give him space advantage (grendel included), Trinity has an armored throw and leaping dive attack that's full screen, Astaroth can literally armor his way through attacks to throw you and if you jump he automatically smokes you, king has safe mids that cover crazy distances with different throws with different tech times, King of Dinosaurs I'm pretty sure has armored moves that get him across the stage as well as a projectile invincible leaping throw with anti air throws (much like some of the other characters I've listed), waldstein has gigantic buttons that makes space not so relevant while also having a projectile of his own and can stop projectiles with certain attacks with his command throw being full screen, Broly has insane armor on his attacks and flies across the screen constantly while also having absurd zoning, and this is just me naming off the top of my head, I know if I look through the list of existing games that I can find more. Pot is not the only character that has answers to get across the screen, some can take a little commitment, some are just down right brainless and safe, but they irrefutably exist.

  • @serepraxis7182
    @serepraxis7182 Před rokem +44

    From playing pot since release it really feels like they pushed him towards "Timmy" Players in this game, he's amazing at low-levels of play and the spectacle he provides is unmatched but he falls off hard when you start fighting competent opponents which is incidentally also the point that many "Timmy" players won't ever experience

  • @james0644
    @james0644 Před rokem +247

    THE KY DOWNPLAY IS REAL 💀💀💀💀💀💀

    • @shadohuntr111
      @shadohuntr111 Před rokem +16

      this is last patch not the newest one I would say that he is right although ky is not bad he isn't good enough to be great

    • @Caulin_
      @Caulin_ Před rokem +12

      nah i’d agree with Ky’s placement. I also think sol should be lower

    • @shadohuntr111
      @shadohuntr111 Před rokem +1

      @@Caulin_ yeah i agree with his placement if it was the newest patch the 1.24 I would place hime just one tier higher. maybe since even though he was buffed the buffs weren't that great.

    • @tonynguyen6639
      @tonynguyen6639 Před rokem +7

      Why do you guys thinks he is somewhat good ?

    • @johnmcswag5980
      @johnmcswag5980 Před rokem +1

      @@tonynguyen6639 I play I-no so hes a walking war crime for me. I dont think theres as many one sided matchups on strive as Ino v Ky

  • @NickJJU
    @NickJJU Před rokem +71

    Ky being worse than Faust last patch is the craziest take I've ever seen

    • @Gonzakoable
      @Gonzakoable Před rokem +19

      Take into account that this comes from a previous KY player and that apparently faust does well vs KY

    • @yoannsoh4009
      @yoannsoh4009 Před rokem +3

      @@Gonzakoable yeah so it's even more biased

    • @yoannsoh4009
      @yoannsoh4009 Před rokem

      Props to kizzie to be right about the patch winners (except KY, kinda). Even tho some of them were obvious

    • @BigDaddy-hz4mh
      @BigDaddy-hz4mh Před rokem +3

      It's a ky mains take ofc he going to downplay the fuck out of his character

    • @hcaelBBleach
      @hcaelBBleach Před rokem +3

      .... new bloods gotta understand hes a top 8 evo finalist but aiiight

  • @sunnydartz8697
    @sunnydartz8697 Před rokem +10

    I agree Ky’s reward off of neutral interactions is a problem but he is NOT in the same tier as Anji and Millia lmao.

  • @jondiaz3329
    @jondiaz3329 Před rokem +22

    That grappler hate tho lol

  • @nickram321
    @nickram321 Před rokem +4

    “Working magic as a grappler vs worker magic as MILLIA???!” 😂😂

  • @ougioshino6940
    @ougioshino6940 Před rokem +15

    Ky players on their way to downplay the character until it gets buffed to top tier. (Mostly joking btw)

  • @SATURNOBR007
    @SATURNOBR007 Před rokem +10

    'Sol is a hit or miss' my boy got shot again, no more 6S CH combos.

    • @WTFZOMG
      @WTFZOMG Před rokem +3

      they took everything away from sol. 5k 6h, 6h ch vortex, 6p wallbounce, and a decent projectile

    • @incompetentc2542
      @incompetentc2542 Před rokem +1

      they hate the fun characters being good

  • @kriscotd76
    @kriscotd76 Před rokem +12

    You wilding to think snake ain’t doing his thing with pot ..People saying he works magic because of his thought process and set ups other than the grabbing aspect of the character..you have to main pot to understand what this guy is doing ..to do kara inputs and land then 99% of the time is god like ..And I’m talking combos not grabs ..Bottom line is ! If he played a high tier character he would probably scrape the floor of most of theses so called pros..

    • @richardjohnson8991
      @richardjohnson8991 Před rokem +1

      Big grab man do big grab tho.
      People that don't play grapplers or regularly play against them don't realize the grab isn't the scariest thing they have EVER. It's the threat of the grab making you sweat and squirm and make bad decisions that's truly scary. I'm personally more of a Garuda meaty and tick throw set ups fan than trying to hit raw potbusters. Counterhit garuda combos into potbuster anyways so why take the extra risk.
      I think about the only time I raw pb regularly is on a dp guess tbh

  • @IchimanVRSNA5
    @IchimanVRSNA5 Před rokem +6

    I feel like ram will literally only be nerfed if they add a universal mechanic that really benefits everyone else massively except her (kinda like kid buu)

    • @mrclean2224
      @mrclean2224 Před rokem +2

      I dropped dbfz a while back, may I ask what they did that didn't benefit kid Buu?

    • @wombatnipnips5078
      @wombatnipnips5078 Před rokem +2

      @@mrclean2224 special tag

  • @knight7297
    @knight7297 Před rokem +5

    I was here to see where zato was and why. Kizzie really just said “he’s got Eddie” and… fair

  • @CumCaptain
    @CumCaptain Před rokem +36

    give pot one of 2 things and he will be a genuinely good character, the ability to not extend heat knuckle and drop the opponent at your feet or 2s works like it did in +r

    • @CumCaptain
      @CumCaptain Před rokem +7

      P.S. Daisuke hates grapplers

    • @Mierezkal
      @Mierezkal Před rokem +15

      With the amount of idiots crying about Pot and Pot player themselves being masochists who keep thinking that ''he's eating good'' it'll never happen + Daisuke hates grapplers.

    • @Assaut19283
      @Assaut19283 Před rokem

      The fact that other characters got the vacuum mechanic before Pot got his back made me very sad.

    • @GamePlayer8326
      @GamePlayer8326 Před rokem +7

      @@Mierezkal im eatin bro trust me i just gotta adapt

    • @dizzyspellss
      @dizzyspellss Před rokem +7

      If heat knuckle kept opponents at your feet nobody would accept a match against pot ever again

  • @TonyTheTGR
    @TonyTheTGR Před rokem +2

    MAY?! In "Good But Not Amazing?" She's NUTS in this game with her near-zero charges and near-zero recovery. She takes so much priority for free! She's definitely deserving of an upgrade.
    I do know some "solid" Millia players, but her weakness is NO DAMAGE OUTPUT. I've seen one combo string for twenty timer counts only to walk away with like, 25%-30% damage... only to drop a hit and get stuffed for half her HP.

  • @johnnymo4000
    @johnnymo4000 Před rokem +12

    Since I'm biased, it's always been weird to me that most people trash grapplers when you are out here using characters with literally every option in the game some including a command grab. You really trying to say FAB hasn't been working magic over the years, pretty hot take Kizzy.
    Makes me want to pick Strive back up just to make people sad when their top tiers get busted.

    • @sherwansmo558
      @sherwansmo558 Před rokem +4

      Exactly. Millia mixing you up with a dash button and Sol with his command grab and fafnir is "magic" and Pot is not? even with all the basically mandatory kara inputs? It doesn't sound right

  • @cthulhusquad8556
    @cthulhusquad8556 Před rokem +4

    I'm looking forward to the Faust matches after the new patch

  • @kamachunoFGC
    @kamachunoFGC Před rokem +6

    Imagine may and bridget in mid tier after huge buffs 😭

    • @yoannsoh4009
      @yoannsoh4009 Před rokem +1

      The mid tier of strive is very strong tho. Even not so great characters are pretty good. The gaps are not that big between the tiers. It's just a pretty explosive game

    • @tabkg5802
      @tabkg5802 Před rokem +1

      That's previous patch bruh

  • @yexe
    @yexe Před rokem +2

    When Nago wiff punishes your wiff punish>>>>>

  • @twizzy7529
    @twizzy7529 Před rokem +5

    Goldlewis, testament and nago are the 3 characters that keep me interested in the game because every day I can just find something new (also sin now that he’s back)

  • @bluevain2255
    @bluevain2255 Před rokem +2

    hey im curious, what buff or nerfs or series of do you all think was unnecessary or overblown in any fighting game? I was curious since to me sol in strive is one of the most unnecessarily nerfed characters in the game from the third patch

  • @HarmonicResonanceScale
    @HarmonicResonanceScale Před rokem +2

    I just wish axl had some better "get off me" moves
    Gimme faster startup on my super or fix his P hurtbox
    Why the fuck does half the roster low profile my fastest button in neutral?

  • @ausreir
    @ausreir Před rokem +3

    Potemkin sucks because I'm not the red baron of Guilty Gear, FAB.

  • @monjarston3577
    @monjarston3577 Před rokem +1

    Ky is at the same level as Sol and Sin, change my mind

  • @omegawaffles7348
    @omegawaffles7348 Před rokem +2

    ky is definitely healthy

  • @stayt2dg
    @stayt2dg Před rokem +5

    This has to be pre-patch...May, Gio, Testament and Bridget bout to be running Strive. Goldlewis is dead, Nago is vanilla normal with his nerf, Anji and Axl way better.
    Ky Downplay is a bit egregious at this point 🤣

  • @enclavehere4705
    @enclavehere4705 Před rokem +6

    Anji and good neutral are not words i thought i'd see together today.

  • @HazyTown01
    @HazyTown01 Před rokem +1

    The Leo disdain only makes us stronger.

  • @spencerseymour5447
    @spencerseymour5447 Před rokem +1

    I honestly do not get why so many top players put testament so high on tier lists. Only character with no rep at EVO

    • @mikhail21
      @mikhail21 Před rokem +2

      From an answer that's not mine, it's because there are characters better than her or is unrepresented esp in major tourneys. It's like Leo being top tier as well but barely anyone play him from what I've observed.

  • @float_water
    @float_water Před rokem

    In the words of kizzie from the past, "when you in the corner with pot. Fuck the matchup."

  • @invarkul7831
    @invarkul7831 Před rokem +1

    KY DOWNPLAY
    KY DOWNPLAY IS REAL
    CAN WE GET MUCH HIGHER?

  • @BRWN_recluse
    @BRWN_recluse Před rokem

    Potemkin has better mu spread than goldlewis you can’t convince me otherwise

  • @endermah5995
    @endermah5995 Před rokem +2

    Finally someone else who thinks Gio is strong

  • @polar6066
    @polar6066 Před rokem

    hey this is pretty off topic but does kyzzie game on that chair during streams¡ its just im having a chair crisis rn and the office chair i bought didnt help at all. over expensive shit like herman miller is def out of the map for the moment but i legit cannot do anything with my current one as not even pillows can save it.

  • @Grimmjow994
    @Grimmjow994 Před rokem +3

    Disagree anjis return is much better with the 5hs buff and buff to nagiha not blowing opponents so far away. The idea is that hes still a very commital character by design but the reward for that wasn't there. Now you deffinetly feel the damage when you get the hit. BUT getting there is still the big issue, so return is there just not a stable way to get it.

    • @Kao108
      @Kao108 Před rokem +2

      This was recorder before the patch
      But I agree as an Anji player that now he's got some taaasty thing going on. Not only does he have the more solid neutral/buttons that season 2 gave him, but now he gets to have fun conversions and oki he had from before (and even obtainable more easily in some situations)
      Spin is still pretty lame but at least now if you hit someone with that nagiha or 5h, your reward is gonna be goooood

    • @Grimmjow994
      @Grimmjow994 Před rokem

      goes to show i can't read at all lool typical Yu-Gi-Oh player behavior

  • @ricniclas
    @ricniclas Před rokem +1

    Ky is healthy strong, you capping

  • @Kid_Makina
    @Kid_Makina Před rokem +3

    Man... the Potemkin hate is so strong in this community and hes so misunderstood lol. Its so obvious most people are just biased when they downplay the work any good Pot player does to win especially against your high tiers. Like its funny seeing people put him in low tier but in the same breath say the people who play him arent on a high lvl of play. As if they arent that good and not doing anything special. Its so weird.

  • @2ndai385
    @2ndai385 Před rokem +1

    This comment section is cap

  • @user-ci2yr4wd7o
    @user-ci2yr4wd7o Před rokem

    It's just not the high end damage like *coughs* *coughs*

  • @anongoldster9915
    @anongoldster9915 Před rokem

    Never thought I'd see the day where faust isn't bottom 3

  • @BonfirePlease
    @BonfirePlease Před rokem +4

    What a Garbage take about Snake Eyez. Snake Eyez wins without grabs all the time. He is insanely good with cancelling moves and footies. He is doing magic
    Nobody in Strive is pushing a character as hard as Snake Eyez and the other PoT players. All the other characters have insane cheats compared to Pot

  • @SpaceTiger9
    @SpaceTiger9 Před rokem +1

    Why does my brain like playing grapplers nobody likes playing vs them :(

    • @AlluMan96
      @AlluMan96 Před rokem +8

      People shit on grapplers, cause they're projecting. A grappler matchup tends to bring out the worst in a person's playstyle, because they make people very anxious. It's the main ingredient to their playstyle, because they tend to lack the other powerful options like reversals or zoning games, more easily identifiable cases of "Shenanigans." So, people exaggerate the matchup, because when you lose to the walking refrigerator lumbering towards you at .2km per hour with a hitbox the size of texas sneaking past your offense, what else do you really blame it on? You made a mistake during the match? Never. Has to be that grapplers are scrubby round-stealers.
      I exaggerate, naturally, but I do think it's just silly how much salt the literal bottom of most games' tier lists still manages to make people seethe.

    • @get_serious4953
      @get_serious4953 Před rokem +2

      @@AlluMan96 >What else do you really blame it on
      You blame it on the beasts

  • @incompetentc2542
    @incompetentc2542 Před rokem

    talk ya shit king

  • @miraclefool9244
    @miraclefool9244 Před rokem

    That’s true for grapplers for sure. In most if not all fighting games grapplers on paper we’re generally worst than most characters.

    • @mickeybat5816
      @mickeybat5816 Před rokem +6

      Thing is that grapplers are huge skill checks. By nature of the archetype they'll be both the best and the worst characters. Their win conditions are so so so specific. Like more often than not, grapplers NEED to condition an opponent. There isn't "oh well I still have this option if they don't fall for the mix up." It's more often than not a "if you mess up then oof bro you boutta struggle" ik that sounds like many other archetypes, but it's more apparent with grapplers imo

    • @CaiGuy64
      @CaiGuy64 Před rokem +3

      @@mickeybat5816 I love having to spend 50 meter to have to re-mix my mixup only for it to lead to nothing

    • @mickeybat5816
      @mickeybat5816 Před rokem +1

      @@CaiGuy64 It's the greatest feeling ever bro. But you ever play Bane in injustice 2? Spend half the match getting in, then do a combo then puts you right back into neutral with very little advantage. With buttons so gosh darn slow that you sometimes you lose even tho you're positive.

  • @CaiGuy64
    @CaiGuy64 Před rokem

    All that pot needs to get moved up an entire rank is for HFC to have less recovery

  • @justinbutcher2183
    @justinbutcher2183 Před rokem

    Ky isn't that bad 😔

  • @olishonick
    @olishonick Před rokem +2

    I dont get the mentality that characters with all the tools you could ever want should also has insane dmg and conversions. That shit is wack af.

  • @galtar862
    @galtar862 Před rokem

    nice

  • @brycerathsack7885
    @brycerathsack7885 Před rokem +1

    The grapplers pay for the fgc sins. Mfs will deadass rather be stuck in a 3 minute tod rather than losing to hard reads. Crazy

  • @Cosmic_K13
    @Cosmic_K13 Před rokem

    Darn. I pride myself on playing low tiers in every game. This time around, all my favorite characters are the gods of the game...

  • @richardjohnson8991
    @richardjohnson8991 Před rokem

    Pot really doesn't feel bottom or low tier to me. He's gotta struggle to walk characters down and get his mix started but his offense is so strong it feels fair to me. Post patch he now has the most health in the game to help him take trades more favorable or tank some damage on approach. Really his biggest weakness is being very slow on defense with no invul wake up I think.
    I know they won't do it but I think genuinely all he needs are better jabs or a invul wake up again. He's got EXTREME one chance potential, I don't think he'll ever be truly "bad". I personally put him above Anji, Axl, Millia, Jacko, and maybe even Sin (beak and far slash being SO SLOW is really unfortunate), but I don't see him winning majors just based on highly volatile matchups.
    I'm not about that downplay life so I'm saying my boy is fine. He could use a little more juice if they want to make him an actual contender for upper/top tier but I don't think he's even in bottom 5 tbh

    • @kamachunoFGC
      @kamachunoFGC Před rokem +1

      They downplaying him bro. He have mad pressure skills for a "Grappler" char lmao

    • @kamachunoFGC
      @kamachunoFGC Před rokem

      He can be rushdown too if you mastered his hammerfall cancels xD

    • @johnnymo4000
      @johnnymo4000 Před rokem

      @@kamachunoFGC Don't play DBFZ or MVC if you think Pot is good 🤣

    • @get_serious4953
      @get_serious4953 Před rokem

      There is technically a invul wakeup for pot
      HPB startup -> PRC

    • @Kono_Dio-Da
      @Kono_Dio-Da Před rokem

      @@get_serious4953 Yeah, but that's extremely impractical compared to, say, wake up Tyrant Rave with Sol

  • @omen2034
    @omen2034 Před rokem

    Cough cough lower baiken sir she is strong in rev2 only
    Kizze you buggin sin = let go of the stick sir and ky ... Bad words
    Lmfao about goldlewis i hate him that casket lord jesus

  • @sheng-ro2383
    @sheng-ro2383 Před rokem

    Иди лучше побегай,ато ноги скоро сломаются под собственным весом

  • @SkitZiee
    @SkitZiee Před rokem +1

    Am I the only person that does not want pot to be “good”

    • @ratedr7845
      @ratedr7845 Před rokem +6

      yes, not wanting success is stupid

    • @MayHugger
      @MayHugger Před rokem +7

      Wanting characters to not be good because of your own bias is in fact a bad thing.

    • @SkitZiee
      @SkitZiee Před rokem

      @@MayHuggerpot does not need to be S tier is all I meant

    • @MayHugger
      @MayHugger Před rokem +2

      @@SkitZiee That’s a really shallow mindset, every character should be allowed to be as strong as possible tier-wise.

    • @SkitZiee
      @SkitZiee Před rokem

      @@MayHugger hell naw!

  • @ChuFye
    @ChuFye Před rokem

    this game is now trash.. arcsys can't balance games period.. this game could have been even bigger than SF6 or Tekken 8.. Sigh..

    • @neverseemstoAsh
      @neverseemstoAsh Před rokem

      this balance patch was great, wdym? all the characters that needed love got it, and only the top-top tiers were nerfed, but not gutted. last patch I might have agreed, but this patch was healthy overall

    • @ChuFye
      @ChuFye Před rokem +1

      @@neverseemstoAsh it's the same ole Nago Happy Chaos Ram.bullshit. Stilllllll..... Arcsys sucks ... Game is still great in concept mind you .. Just ridiculously unbalanced

    • @neverseemstoAsh
      @neverseemstoAsh Před rokem +1

      @@ChuFye nago gets absolutely exploded if he abuses his specials like he did last patch thanks to his guts nerfs, a bunch of HC's strongest mix tools and conversions got clipped entirely, and ram... well ok, I'll give you that one, but she was never as atrocious as the other two and she got some slight tweaks

    • @jtsnow4331
      @jtsnow4331 Před rokem

      @@ChuFye bro I think the game has never been more even. Every fighting game has BS. Yes top tiers are stupid sometimes but the patch was pretty good for the most part. The only thing I don’t get is HC not getting nerfed like Nago same with Ram.

  • @Androssverse
    @Androssverse Před rokem

    I stopped listening to the video for a second when I heard the BOMBERMAN HERO OST in the background 🥹. A man of quality

  • @incompetentc2542
    @incompetentc2542 Před rokem

    talk ya shit king