Prosper, Tome-Bound MTG EDH Deck Tech 2 Ways | Friendly vs Powerful

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Komentáře • 81

  • @QMTG
    @QMTG  Před 3 lety +21

    An absolute POWERHOUSE of a commander - which power level do you prefer? And which commander should we build next?

    • @piotraugustyniak6591
      @piotraugustyniak6591 Před rokem

      Goblin Wort, raidmother with goblins tribal and spellslinger (damage spells and extra combat phase or turns)

  • @TwoTrueAggies
    @TwoTrueAggies Před 2 lety +22

    I know I'm a few months late, but I love the idea of this channel! Highlighting a "lower-tier" and "higher-tier" version of a Commander gives a lot more insight and choice into how to initially build a deck, as well as future adjustments to raise/lower it's competitiveness. You've got a new follower.

    • @QMTG
      @QMTG  Před 2 lety +1

      Awesome! Thanks!

  • @MaxSpider2000
    @MaxSpider2000 Před 2 lety +20

    an easier combo to pull off that I just found: have a decent amount of treasures on board and play magda. sac 5 treasures to get clock of omens from the library onto the battlefield (text: Tap 2 artifacts, untap target artifact). now if you have a liquimetal torque on board it's perfect, if not, sac 5 more and get it. make magda an artifact. bam tap a treasure and magda to untap magda -> infinite treasures. But they're tapped you say. True but you can still sac them with magda and get bolas's citadel on board and it's pretty much GG since you can tap citadel, sac 10 treasure and deal 10 to everyone and then tap 2 more treasures to untap citadel. badabing badaboom

  • @jeffnorris211
    @jeffnorris211 Před 3 lety +15

    Prosper looks like so much fun. He gives so much value it’s hard to not want to build him as a core rakdos player.

    • @QMTG
      @QMTG  Před 3 lety +2

      Yeah he's pure value

  • @GabrielMateusLima
    @GabrielMateusLima Před 2 lety +5

    I've upgraded the precon with the friendly approach, before seeing this video. Man, your content is soo good, well detailed. I've just subscribed.
    Keep the good work.

    • @QMTG
      @QMTG  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks!!!

  • @andredenegri8633
    @andredenegri8633 Před 3 lety +9

    Big fan of the channel and the math/analytical breakdown. Great content and it's obvious you put hard work into this. Keep it up!

    • @QMTG
      @QMTG  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks! Glad you enjoy it :)

  • @jakegorelick4660
    @jakegorelick4660 Před 2 lety +4

    I really like this format, as it really sets the videos apart from all of the other straight budget upgrade videos.

    • @QMTG
      @QMTG  Před 2 lety

      Awesome! Glad you enjoyed it :)

  • @SteakOSaurier
    @SteakOSaurier Před 3 lety +11

    such a great series. Love the comparison between the two!
    Keep 'em coming, those are great!

    • @QMTG
      @QMTG  Před 3 lety +2

      Thanks! We will!

  • @mintifur
    @mintifur Před rokem

    The visualizations and the ways you explain how the build has a friendly vs. powerful nuance to it was a breathe of fresh air in the EDH tutorial videos I've been watching!

  • @bradleymiller4490
    @bradleymiller4490 Před 2 lety +1

    Love the builds. Definitely gave me great ideas for upgrading my prosper deck!

    • @QMTG
      @QMTG  Před 2 lety

      That's great!

  • @tomasyacachury3386
    @tomasyacachury3386 Před 3 lety +3

    Loving this series already! Congrats from Argentina!

    • @QMTG
      @QMTG  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks!! Glad you enjoy it :)

  • @EmmanuelClay
    @EmmanuelClay Před 2 lety +1

    Great video! I love the format you use with putting the strategy right in the title of the section. I am new to the game and watching this video really cleared up how this deck is played right out of the box. Thanks!

    • @QMTG
      @QMTG  Před 2 lety

      Awesome, have fun!

  • @billmatwij539
    @billmatwij539 Před 2 lety +2

    Great breakdown and well organized, good work! Definitely taking this into consideration with my first cedh build, thank you!

    • @QMTG
      @QMTG  Před 2 lety

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @mercystreetcjc
    @mercystreetcjc Před 2 lety +3

    Great Video! I love the format with two options, side by side. I am digging the dragons as finishers angle.

  • @samuelbrousseau7731
    @samuelbrousseau7731 Před 2 lety +1

    Love the format of this video! I subscribe to hopefully see more :D

    • @QMTG
      @QMTG  Před 2 lety

      Awesome, thanks!

  • @permafrost2064
    @permafrost2064 Před 3 lety +5

    Hello! I'm new to the channel, just wanted to say I really like your format and comparing two different deck lists. I am working on Prosper and wasnt sure how mean I wanted to get, but your powerful version looks awesome! I think I found the version of the deck I'm going to work towards. :)

    • @QMTG
      @QMTG  Před 2 lety

      That's awesome! Thanks and good luck!

  • @GravePacked
    @GravePacked Před 3 lety +1

    This was great! I love your channel!

    • @QMTG
      @QMTG  Před 3 lety

      Thank you so much!

  • @Einherjar1349
    @Einherjar1349 Před 2 lety +1

    I’m a Little bit late but, damn! just bought a prosper deck and to want to upgrade it and found your video. Now I can’t choose between both of your lists as a starting point. Thanks a lot for sharing!

  • @Khanstant
    @Khanstant Před rokem

    great video breakdown, one thing i'd want is maybe see a game played with this deck in an actual match after

  • @hamdrew1767
    @hamdrew1767 Před 2 lety

    Cool deck prosper is loads of fun to play. Altar of the brood is pretty nasty in this one if u already got the magda dockside cloudstone combo out and also even on its own altar of the brood is synergizing with the stupid amounts of treasures being made... some more creatures that synergize really well with this guy would definitely be Goldspan dragon, Grenzo havoc raiser, Hellkite tyrant (WINCON!!), Etali primal storm (LOL!) :)

  • @daves5443
    @daves5443 Před 2 lety +1

    I like the idea of having 2 different builds. Nice 👌

    • @QMTG
      @QMTG  Před 2 lety

      Glad you like it!

  • @allanfong8311
    @allanfong8311 Před 2 lety +1

    I started at a friendly theme but ended up with the powerful theme ! XD

  • @velkejkoren
    @velkejkoren Před 3 lety +2

    sweet dude thanks

    • @QMTG
      @QMTG  Před 2 lety +1

      No problem 👍

  • @Shinnja
    @Shinnja Před 2 lety

    cool video! Do you have any other resources that list commanders like you did here on the chart/graph you made? It helps some of us on a budget who can't afford to build something and then decide it's not their style :)

  • @beltfedweapon9967
    @beltfedweapon9967 Před 2 lety +1

    Well done, sir, well done. Your analytics & style of presentation bring some objective clarity to your deck building process - it’s what distinguishes your channel. Keep doing what you’re doing.

    • @QMTG
      @QMTG  Před 2 lety

      Thank you kindly! More to come!

  • @parkerbrown8220
    @parkerbrown8220 Před 2 lety

    This is my first and only commander I will ever use hahaha

  • @Richthofen100
    @Richthofen100 Před 3 lety +1

    Very nice

  • @jamiep8002
    @jamiep8002 Před 2 lety +2

    Huh. My Prosper build is somewhere in between these two- A lot of the interaction from the Power build, but not the combo lines. Relies on some of the alt finishers though- reckless fireweaver, disciple of the vault, etc.
    I've definitely had some mixed results from certain "exile matters" cards though, and these builds have def given me some solid ideas for a couple of swap-outs.

    • @QMTG
      @QMTG  Před 2 lety

      Awesome!

    • @MaxSpider2000
      @MaxSpider2000 Před 2 lety

      Probably because there is anti-synergy in the precon with cards that have extra effects if played from hand since there is a high chance for you to exile them. you should add cut//ribbons because you can cast cut from exile and still get it into the graveyard for the finisher with ribbons

  • @regaleagle6533
    @regaleagle6533 Před 2 lety

    Spinerock Knoll would be an autoinclude here. Opponent or you do 7 damage and you dropping like an inferno of the star mounts down free or Fevered Suspicion. Dead of Winter is a nice pickup if you already have snowlands for Draugr I stuck it in. Its like 50 cents instead of 25 bucks for a toxic deluge pretty much.
    From the power version of deck reckless fireweaver missing its often stronger because it does the damage when clues and foods come out without having to pay the mana to sac them.

  • @brett5569
    @brett5569 Před 2 lety

    Would you ever reconsider doing a new version of prosper? Especially with all the new cards that came out with streets of new capena and balders gate.

  • @mrbonlino
    @mrbonlino Před rokem

    Is a mix of both friendly and cedh viable, or is it too many variables. Things like basing your deck on the friendly, but having bolas' citadel and dockside to make things a little scarier. Or is it bad form for the friendly deck?

  • @YellowEyedPuggle
    @YellowEyedPuggle Před 3 lety +3

    Great idea, but you need to blow up the cards on screen when you talk about it. Too small on moxfield when you hover over it.

    • @QMTG
      @QMTG  Před 3 lety

      Thanks for the feedback! Will do so next time

  • @ramen-numerals
    @ramen-numerals Před 2 měsíci

    i feel like i always have the most advantage with propser, but I always ends up just having to cycle as may cards as possible looking for one of the scary ones, and it doesn’t always happen.

  • @chiefchowmein5498
    @chiefchowmein5498 Před 2 lety +1

    Dang after playing this commander so many times it is so much fun, rakdos value train! I'm getting the itch of adding strong cards but thinking it will ruin the fun factor of the deck

    • @QMTG
      @QMTG  Před 2 lety +1

      He is so much value

  • @danieljulia948
    @danieljulia948 Před 2 lety

    i really like the powerfull version, but i wanna build somethin powerfull on theme.....maybe i could work in a combination because budget

  • @dalumon
    @dalumon Před 2 lety +1

    I doubt about how suspend cards could be casted while exiled with Prosper. By activating its ability or they are just 0 mana cost?

    • @QMTG
      @QMTG  Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah they can't actually be cast :/

  • @danielgoldberg2129
    @danielgoldberg2129 Před 2 lety +1

    I’ve watched a few of these Prosper videos to help me upgrade my Prosper Precon deck. I am wondering why nobody likes Lukka (Planeswalker) in this deck? It appears to be really good.
    Edit: As far as ideas to improve deck tech, maybe show which cards are already in the precon deck and which ones you added.

    • @QMTG
      @QMTG  Před 2 lety

      Ah, great suggestion, thanks!

    • @MaxSpider2000
      @MaxSpider2000 Před 2 lety

      Not a bad card but you shoot yourself in the foot with the +1 because you can't cast anything but the exiled creatures. other abilities of his are also centered around big creatures which is pretty cool if you want to go that route with prosper but I'd rather see it in a gruul commander deck

  • @nelsonmesa6785
    @nelsonmesa6785 Před 2 lety

    I know I am super late, but please please build a powerful esix build

  • @equos5060
    @equos5060 Před 2 lety

    Powerful version is okay but I could use these combos in many decks. I like the win con to be more closely related to my deck, not combo that has no connection to my decks flavor.

  • @RatedManatee
    @RatedManatee Před 2 lety

    *Checks desciption before watching*
    Friendly and Steal in the same sentence!

  • @sadizz455
    @sadizz455 Před 2 lety +1

    this was super informative, but unfortunately a lot of cards here are also super expensive lol.

    • @QMTG
      @QMTG  Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah, well :/

  • @AndrewWoodford
    @AndrewWoodford Před 3 lety +2

    He is Simic Good Stuff in Rakdos

    • @QMTG
      @QMTG  Před 3 lety

      Certainly seems like it

  • @karrotguy
    @karrotguy Před 3 lety +1

    went to JGH, ur guy over the counter has attitude problem and he never put in the fabled passage for me. only to self check when im away and came back to claim the freebie. disappointed with my experience there.

    • @QMTG
      @QMTG  Před 3 lety +1

      Hey, sorry to hear about that. Mistakes happen, I've passed on your feedback and we'll work to keep improving :)

  • @vergescalvin428
    @vergescalvin428 Před 2 lety +1

    Actually Xorn don't DOUBLING the treasure you get, he just add ONE more to the pool of token you create :)

    • @vergescalvin428
      @vergescalvin428 Před 2 lety

      I have a question actually, are we agreed with da fact that the deck can never be played in competitive way? (because mOX / Lotus / and lot other than deflective or xhaos where ban? ) and , can i have an advice about what kind of cards i can replace for this one where banned? Because actually i dont see how to replace a Sol (exept with sol talisman) or other strongest card like manacrypt and other :/

  • @brandonhiggs88
    @brandonhiggs88 Před 2 lety

    In my play group prosper gets so much hate and is targeted instantly. It's my favourite deck and I rarely ever will with it cause I'm archenemy when I play it

  • @jonathanjimenez6548
    @jonathanjimenez6548 Před 2 lety +2

    I like that you have a powerful version. There are too many $50 dollar deck techs out there and not enough "expensive" deck techs for people with more disposable income.

  • @maxklement4101
    @maxklement4101 Před 2 lety

    If I only had $1,800 to spend on one deck

  • @DeltaIIDelta
    @DeltaIIDelta Před 3 lety +1

    That blouses citadel and aetherflux combo doesn't win though u don't gain any extra life u spend 1 life to make 1 life and draw deck

    • @QMTG
      @QMTG  Před 3 lety +3

      Aetherflux reservoir gains you life for each spell you've cast that turn. So playing top for the first time gains you 1 life. But the second time gains you 2 life. And the third time gains you 3 life. So you're netting extra life anytime after the first cast. Sorry if it wasn't explained well in the video!

    • @LilwolfNirpaw
      @LilwolfNirpaw Před 3 lety +1

      The combo works because you continously tap and draw off the top, putting it on top of library, which allows you to recast off of the citadel, triggering aetherflux to gain you 1 life for each spell youve cast this turn. So the first time you play the top you gain one, negating the citadel life cost to cast the top from the top of library, but the second cast will gain you 2 life. then you tap and draw the next card off your sensei's top, putting it back on top and recasting of the citadel-gaining you more life. eventually youve played it enough time that aethrflux has given you hundreds of life, and you use the aetherflux second ability to nuke each other player by paying 50 life to deal 50 damage. Does that make sense?