Brit Soldier Reacts to If the war came Ep. 5: Death in the Woods (Om kriget kom, Döden i skogen)
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- čas přidán 28. 04. 2024
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The Homeguard was around 100,000 strong and they had all kit, weapons included, at home. So basically, a militia army on standby. Add to that 30,000-50,000 conscripts in training ready to be deployed, plus all the officers. So say that 200,000 out of the 800,000 were ready to go within 24 hours.
Today, the Homeguard has a response time of 6 hours.
Yeah i remember my dad used to have an old army secured locker in the basement with a Carl Gustaf ksp. Dad had lots of medals he earned on shooting ranges back then. He was a groundcrew engineer at Ronneby F17 airbase. He was ready at any time if the call came which it did 1981.
@@peo4989If he was in the airforce, he had a m/45 sub machine gun (Kpist), not a KSP (kulspruta). The KSP 58 basically is a Belgian FN MAG, a weapon that the engineers never used.
@@Jonsson474 also the m/45 was made by Carl Gustaf and the KSP58 not, and no one had the KSP58 at home (M240 for the American viewers).
Nope you forgot a zero..the home guard was over one million.....l😮😮
@@Sven... Hemvärnet have never had 1M people, the largest amount of home guard soldiers was 120k in the 80:ies and it have decreased since then to 20k today.
What you forget is that almost all men did some form of training either with or without weapons when they were 18-19 years old and when everyone with weapons training can wear uniforms 18-40 years old if they don't have a specialty because then it's older. Know of people who did their military service in healthcare and ambulance. Then we had home guards who had the uniforms and weapons at home and there were important personnel such as country postmen and the telecommunications company who showed the area well and volunteers as well.
And a lot of women were also war placed for important tasks, not being soldiers on the field but, communication, secret codes, helping civilians find bunkers. Having top secret information as a communicator with troups etc so so literally the entire country was prepared both men and women they had different tasks, but all of the task was of importance
@@Frizzi04yea the Lotta kåren was pretty big
I grew up in a remote area of the countryside. We had a mobilization depot 500 meters from our house. It looked like any other farm house. Larger than most but that's about it. Oh, it was full of tanks instead of farmers equipment. Back then it was the most natural thing in the world.
Sweden even had a wartime currency with printed money in storage to be used during war.
This to avoid the enemy to flood Sweden with fake bills.
My dad was in the home guard, he had a carbine with 200 rounds and eight hand grenades at home in case of mobilisation.
We did practice running to the shelter, first aid and putting out fire at school when I was in third grade, 10years old.
12:20 The part not translated.
"Look at this."
Flyers being dropped. It says "Evacuate immediately". In Swedish.
Growing up military service/training was something you were expected to do. All adult men in my family had some kind of military training, it was realy a universal thing back then. Disabilitys that would have been an easy way out for my generation wasn't, as they had plenty of desks/radar screens to put sickly 19y olds behind.
Dispersion is also a key to understanding why the cold war plans looked like they did.
The idea was that the typical tactical nuke was "survivable" if you had some cover at about 1000m.
So if we just make sure to keep everything as dispersed as possible super power red will only get something like a company, at most, with every nuke.
Sweden had a lot of company on the lists, how many nukes could they afford/dare to use on this front?
The same thinking goes for the storage of all the gear. Spreading it thin gives both speznaz and red airforce way to many targets to deal with at once.
Others have explained the homeguard(Hemvärnet), the organization you are asking for ;) Their main task used to be safe guarding the storage facilities.
Keep in mind that they could do partial mobilization along the way. It wouldn’t necessarily have been 0 to 100 in a matter of three days, going from peace to war. In a severely deteriorating political situation, they could for example mobilize 10% or 20% (80,000-160,000) before any conflict escalated into war. That would of course make the ensuing full mobilization easier.
I think conscription is still important. We see that in the war in Ukraine today. There's no substitute for raw numbers.
Unfortunately
Conscription is easier for a population to handle when you know the only time you would be drawn into real conflict is during the defence of the homeland. It gets more difficult if there are possibilities of being sent out to some conflict you don't understand or don't want any part of, which is why I think conscription in countries like the UK or the US would be very difficult. If so it has to be seperated, conscription would be only in case of a homeland defence situation, being invaded, and only then can the conscripts be called in to fight.
That is probably why Sweden has both conscription _and_ a proffessional military where many soldiers are on contracts, many recruited straight out of the conscripted military service. That happen in for example Afghanistan.
and now consider that the USA had conscript via a national lottery during the Vietnam war. Cheesus.
All of the population had military contact and all males where conscripts and a fair bit of the females where volunteers so I don’t think there would have been panic among the population. We had bombshelter drills in school.
Nice video series.
Here's a subtitled video about the Swedish BAS 90 (Vägbassystem 90) system, a successor to the older BAS 60 where the common road system all over the country is used as a airfields for the air-force. It complement this series about the Cold War, and explains why the Swedish deigned air-planes can take off and land on such short runways.
czcams.com/video/MNak9lB_q00/video.html
When looking at what Sweden had, and the fact that in this fictive story, almost everything is being destroyed, you realize the sheer amount of equipment, manpower and money that would have to go into actually invading this heavily armed citadel that was Sweden. the USSR would have to send over at least 2 million men (excluding pilots and navy personnel), at least 1000 fighter jets (most likely double it since Swedish fighters was what Soviet fighter pilots nightmares were made of), not only their Baltic fleet, but also take in several fleets from elsewhere, because not only was the Swedish navy more advanced and better trained than the Soviet navy, but it was also bigger than the Soviet Baltic Fleet. And good luck getting past the coastal artillery with what remains of your battered and depleted fleet. And since it has already been several days until the Soviets can even get close enough to the Swedish coast, a large part of the defence force would probably already be mobilized. And even if the Soviets now manage to push further into the mainland, actually getting upplies to the front would be a logistical nightmare. Roads are blocked and bridges are blown. This forces you to take very predictable routes, on which the Jägers will be waiting to ambush you. Then there's a firefight which lasts less than a minute and now you're left with half as many men as you originally had, 2/3 of the casualties are wounded and need evacuation, all of your supplies are burning, along with your AFVs.
It might very much have been possible, but it would have come at a VERY high cost and it would have taken a VERY long time, probably several years, before you're no longer facing any substancial resistance. The last thing you want when occupying territory is to be up against a well organized, very trigger-happy, well equipped and determined guerilla force.
One often forgotten aspect of mandatory military service and/or "civil duty" (weapon free service) together with concept of "Total defence" is that it can build unity in the country if done right (and recentment if done wrong). Done right; everyone are needed and know what to do and what is expected of them, gathered around a common goal: to protect common values. It forces people from all stages of life, from all social classes and all types of backgrounds to mix and work closely together. It breaks down social barriers, creates and maintain a certain set of values, and it build up a deeply rooted social contract. Suddenly it is not "their society" it is "our society" that we all have responsibility to protect and take care of. This then spill over into civilian life. In my mind it very much goes hand in hand with democratic values that everyone pitch in and help in times of need.
Just for that aspect alone I think mandatory nationl service (military or civil) is worth it.
Another aspect is that it is also not often talked about is that it is ?at least in theory) much harder for a military to seize political power by military force in a country with a conscript military compared to a country with only a proffessional military. Especially with a huge and well trained reserves.
It's also somewhat beneficial for the civilian life even if the war never comes. E.g my generation that was part of the conscripts in Sweden would had any problems if/when the power or heat goes out or if we had to live through some nature catastrophe since part of the training was surviving in the wild with nothing except what you can find there.
The last thing you did when doing your military service was to place your company's equipment in it's mobilisation storage.
Of course conscription is still important. That's why we've started it again.
I hope my country of Poland won't bring it back
@@trevdestroyer8209 Then you will have no compatriots to defend your country. I thought you learned from World War II the importance of enlistment.
@@tomeng9520 Only volunteers should be in the military, not people who don't want to like me
@@tomeng9520 if war starts I'm running away
@@trevdestroyer8209 You would like to have all the advantages of living in a free country, in democracy. But you are apparently not prepared to defend your rights.
That's what we call a coward.
And the country you have run to, if it is also captured, Are you going to run again?!
And the next country, and the next country, and the next country.
Because you don't like to fight for your freedom. Then you can move to North Korea or China.
The Logistics is probably the thing that would work best here in Sweden if a war was to erupt during the cold war era.
Lets put it like this all children had mandatory fire safety texcercises every half a year and a large safety traing day every year which included Fire fighters ambulances medics police and military with full kit.
During this you had fire evac with smoke and water. Then first aid evac were we had to do mouth to mouth, heart massage, to stop bleedings and clear the airways.
We also had survival in the wild and how to protect yourself against possible sudden deconstruction of the buildings aka Erathquakes or which was more possible and the principal called Special operation Fireworks aka Bombardment.
All schools were built to be war hospitals with opertion rooms and everything and was redone by the staff in a few minutes to an hour.
We were infact so prepared by the school on how as 7 year olds to handle ourselves that even now 26 years since greade 1 i still fully remember how to handle myself should i find myself in either a completly burning building, Neding to rescucitate a non breathing person or a non beating hearth, stop someone from bleeding out, or how to survive in the forest with just my body, or what to do if im in Japan or California during an Emmerich Movie.
if you want to fully understand how well Sweden did Logistical nightmares during this era i highly recommend any video on Dagen H or The H Day of Sweden.
many historians claim it was on par with D-Day in planning and how hard it was to perform.
Bro pls look at Sandboox breakdown of the Jas Gripen E. And you will get the real breakdown.
God bless.
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