Dead Mall - Chevy Chase Pavilion, DC | study of a retail throuple | ExLog 88
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Chevy Chase Pavilion is just one part of the retail throuple that makes up the Wiscon and Western Ave. shopping district in Friendship Heights. This area spans the Washington, DC and Chevy Chase, MD border...and there are now two dead malls right across the street from each other. It's pretty crazy to think how long these two places coexisted. Thanks for watching!
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Marna the Mall PA Lady solved the mystery of the three Amish kids on Rumspringa! They were the security guards, all along! Let me know if any of you want me to ship out some fresh microwaved "rice dish", or if you need some old Austrian men yodeling "Moscow Nights" with tongue tremolo for your next pool party. Happy June, everyone. Make sure to sub and ring the bell, and also to follow me on social media so you can follow what's happening behind the scenes. Links are in my descriptions!
I want my rice dish with extra plastic knife please
better eat the dorritos and never be canceled
The Snark was a Boojum you see - no wonder no one ever saw them! They morphed!
Such a change from the world I grew up in during the 1980’s and ‘90s.
Well yeah in the sense that it’s empty, but the space you’re looking at is very much how things looked in the 80’s and 90’s. High quality appointments, glass skylights, brass railings; a cathedral of capitalism.
Same.
The sound design on the “loud speaker” is spot on! You even added additional echo compared to usual to account for that massive cavernous area. Great attention to detail! Also, I know I know it’s just a little thing, but durning filming your walk through the corridor with the neon lighting, that upward camera spin to turn back around was shot very nicely.
Hey, first…you rock. Second…I’ll only take credit for the sound design. Lots of effort went into that. My in person camera work still needs touching up. Thanks for the kind words!!
@@sal You camera work is ever improving, keep it up and don’t sell yourself short. People tend to have higher expectations for themselves than for others. It might not be perfect but it’s leaps and bounds ahead of where you started and that deserves recognition. 😊
I really appreciate that! I’ll keep aiming for higher quality as my series progresses!
8:15 The sight of an old school free-standing pay phone was almost jarring. It’s been decades since I saw that in an indoor setting, it almost looks foreign.
A few years ago, I witnessed a dude just standing there, having a chat with someone on the phone. Like he was actually using a payphone to call people.
As a local kid who grew up at Mazza in its glory days of the 80s, this video (which is very well researched) is hard to watch. I moved on from DC a long time ago and so I never saw the Friendship Heights area struggle the way it has. I only knew its’ growth and success, which was a fun and stable time for me. This mall was my social life growing up. Bought so many things, saw so many movies, met up with so many friends, ate so many McD’s meals, bought so many albums…the memories are too many. So sad to me, but I appreciate your video and thank you for updating us. Best of luck and hope to see more down the road.
Hey Mark. I totally agree…lived in DC for years, play concerts around there all the time. Trust me when I say that I avoided producing this for as long as I could…thanks for watching!
You had me at Rice-A-Roni in the microwave for 20 minutes.
There was a Seinfeld moment in that multi-storey car park.
I always learn something when I watch your videos, and in this one I learned knives are a tasty microwaved treat.
I loved Mazza and CC Pavillion. I look forward to mazza’s redevelopment. The lord and Taylor behind Mazza also closed recently. Lots of potential!
Mazza Gallerie is now closed.
Amazing retail selection placed way to close together. I appreciate you illuminating that and giving us a history of the 1950’s shops
That Woodies was lovely. Behind Mazza Gallerie there was a fantastic Lord & Taylor as well, which had a little restaurant in it for many years. It, too, was a victim of COVID, shuttering within the past year (Lord & Taylor-the Birdcage restaurant within it closed some years earlier.)
@@allysonalt5291 Loyd and Taylor of course closed many, many stores around the country. The local mall had one which closed in the early spring. Now with Sears also gone, just JC Penny and Macy's are left. This was where two mall combined into one, with lots of excess retail space. Amazon is building a huge warehouse nearby, along with fulfillment center, who will win this game in retail, no one knows.
@@iworkout6912 the Giant grocery store here is being replaced by an Amazon grocery....and the other grocery store in the same neighborhood is a Whole Foods, also owned by Amazon. So basically we have the same store, two blocks apart. Seems like an odd choice to me.
I remember when that shopping area was at its prime:
Mazda Gallerie had a lovely Neiman Marcus, and some local luxury boutiques and a shoe store “Stephanie Kelian” which had the most exotic designer shoes.
Lord & Taylor was in the back, and there was a Woodward & Lothrop where the Bloomingdale’s is… then there was an Issey Miyake boutique across from Neimans, and then down the street was a Gianni Versace boutique and Gucci and YSL was further down before closing out the area with a Saks.
That 80s and early 90s era had some of the best shopping in DC area history!!!
Another great video Sal. My family and I stayed at the Embassy Suites there in 2015 and had a fantastic time, we really enjoyed being able to take the Metro into DC and the attractions there. It’s sad to see it empty like it is now, thanks for all the great videos, I really enjoy them.
I love your use of amazing vocabulary and the placement of "Big Words"
Thanks PTV :)
god. i love the old lady making the announcements bit. LOL
That underground parking garage is nice. I have always found underground parking structures to be fascinating, and I have no idea why.
Your multitudinous descriptions of the arrival of the 2020 pandemic are truly superb.
Oh, and talking about small children... My kid got her head stuck in a bridge railing over a water feature at Embassy Suites..! I pulled the bars apart just enough to get her "un-stuck". Got a free stay out if it too.!
being awarded for stupidity.
I use to slide down that escalator at Mazza from the Metro because it does have bumpers in the way!
Fun Fact: The Cheesecake Factory here was their 5th location and the first one outside of CA. At the time it was privately owned.
Really impressed by the time and effort you put into these videos. Amazing that malls are a thing of the past but it is the times.
I used to work at the Linens n Things on the lower floor. There was so much shoplifting that happened there
Another work of art as usual. Definitely among my favorite episodes. As an added bonus, I'm now a rice master chef with my trusted microwave at my side. :)
Within Sydney, Australia at Town Hall Station, a major station in Sydney where it provides underground connections to three shopping malls were at the northern end there are two "A" Class malls managed and owned by Vicinity Centers named "The Galeries" a modern mall and "QVB" a heritage mall within the heratige listed Queen Victoria Building while at the southern end there is one "B" Class mall managed by Colliers named "Town Hall Square" a modern mall as well. All three malls are thriving, both pre-and-post COVID-19 pandemic. This goes to show how Australian retail spaces are planned, designed, built, managed and operated differently without ever being over saturated with malls of the same class and caliber but diverse yet suitable for the area, demography and target audience.
My family stayed at that Embassy Suites in like '96, I think. I remember everything feeling VERY FANCY, and hearing that the mall next door was even fancier (so fancy that we didn't even go). Cool to finally see a place I've been!
Just rewatching this and teary eyed when you exited to Wisconsin Ave., with Mazza Galerie across the street. It is now, sadly, just an open lot. Such great memories of shopping in both spaces, but especially Mazza.
@sal @16:45 (I used to work for the company) This is a routine and random annual Health Dept inspection in which they show up during regular store operating hours. My guess is that this location might've adjusted their hours due to lower foot traffic or might be temporarily closed altogether- but probably forgot to reflect that change in store or online. So this notice doesn't represent anything negative necessarily- just a miscommunication.
Still a bad look to a customer.
@@sal I totally hear you- from a customer perspective it could appear that they were avoiding an inspection (even if it isn't a scheduled inspection). BUT on the flip-side, luckily this location is in a deadmall and so it'll go unnoticed by most! Lol
Nordstrom rack closed last month. I was at the fixture sale. I wonder if TJ Maxx will move in to either that space or the former World Market space once Mazza Gallerie is closed down. I think this mall has a lot of potential but not with traditional chain retail. More food options, independent shops, and entertainment businesses (like escape rooms) might be in order. By the way, Ballston Quarter might make an good expedition. It shows how to reposition a mall like this (and how not to, as they already have a high vacancy rate) and there is a lot of interesting history there.
I F***ING LOVE THIS! Yes I’m yelling because I’m that excited. Great work man.
THANKS DUDE!!!
I fucking cant read censored shit! WHAT?
I wandered into a Neiman Marcus once (not that location) because I was killing time waiting for a friend. I thought maybe I could buy a lipstick at the makeup counter. When I reached for my credit card, they said they didn’t accept credit cards, but I could open a NM account. I wasn’t looking for another card, I just wanted to buy one lipstick! I didn’t buy the lipstick and walked out.
Your content keeps me coming back for more!! Its like watching a movie!
I was just there yesterday. It was a total ghost town, spooky. 20 years ago it was POPPIN and now it’s all but deserted.
Magnificent! Another great one Sal. Thank you! Long time subscriber
I appreciate the long term sub…means the world!
@@sal there's always something intriguing, sad yet comforting about these trips, the Christmas setting of this one hit just perfect here on this first of June. Stay safe and we will all look forward to the next one.
I loved it from start to finish !
Always a great job! Love your work and love how you tesearch and really get into detail about sellers and buyers and if it will be saved or demolished. Always great info! ❤️❤️
Sal, I’m so glad I watched your vid. Now, when I’m really, really stoned and get the munchies, I’ll know exactly how to make the “rice stuff in that thing”
Thank You.
Yo I have the sequel coming in a few days…he goes over making “nacho dish”. It’s incredible.
Great video. Definitely worth the wait
You can pretty much travel at will in PA now, especially if vaccinated. As a person who does a lot of work in Western PA's Amish country the Rumspringa comment made me nose snort a cherry pepsi.
I used to go to these malls on the metro all the time. I just liked walking around them.
There is also a similar on near pentagon city off the mall to. It was dead too, not been there in years.
Hey Sal, thanks for all your videos and hard work.
Phenomenal! What a cool idea to live in an old mall...if it was done right would be awesome.
Oh man, did an art festival in 2019 that took place at the shops at Wisconsin Place. Such a weird contrast, but it worked. Didn’t realize until about minute 11 that it was the same place…
That kid was lucky he didn't die going through the rails. Another kid in 2011 was not so lucky when he ran from his mother, grabbed the down escalator railing on the wrong side, fit through the 6 inch gap between it, and the railing surrounding the escalators. Unfortunately, he lost his grip high up, and fell over 15 feet into a glass display case. Unfortunately, the kid died soon after the fall (Sears, Auburn Mall, Auburn, MA).
PS: Don't feel bad about losing your car in a sprawling parking garage. I had that happen at Providence Place (Providence, RI). I knew where it was, but the sprawling maze of bridges, and ramps, made it hard to get to, and I also resorted to the "Lock" button to sound the horn to home onto it. Unlike you, I didn't make it in time, and had to pay more.
I can go on and on about this place and how much I loved it. I had swimming lessons here. I spent every Thursday ages 5 - 10 here. I pray it gets better.
Your videos are such a treat.
Thank you for these episodes! So enjoy your content.
Thanks Patricia!
City Center killed Mazza Gallerie and CC Pavilion when it opened I. 2015. You did not discuss the 4th mall, the Collection, on the northeast corner of the Wisconsin - Western Ave intersection. I used to live across the street and it was the first mall to show high vacancy. I moved to the residential neighborhood south of Mazza and it was holding on until COVID hit. CC Pavilion was the second mall in the neighborhood affected by declining foot traffic in the FH neighborhood. Wisconsin Place has also experienced low occupancy rates as well.
I *loved* Georgetown Park as a kid. I thought it was incredibly classy. I was so bummed when I went back to DC as an adult and it was gone. Also, would you ever consider doing a video on Crystal City Underground? It’s the weirdest mini mall in Arlington.
Check out Sal’s ExLog 75 from October 31, 2020 to see his video on Crystal City Underground in Arlington, VA. As always, he does an excellent job of documenting this dead mall.
@@marciasmithanderson4325 awesome, thank you!
One of the best descriptions of Covid I have heard. Great job.
So glad I found this!!!! Love your content!!!
Thanks so much, Cheyann!
I love your videos Sal! Thank you for all that you do!
I appreciate the kind words!!
Brilliantly informative video Sal, not too sure why I'm addicted to watching you explore American malls but it's very therapeutic haha! All the best from England :)
Cheers! Thanks for the kind words!
I am fascinated with these videos too. I'm from Canada. I find alot of the American malls are different from the malls here. Cheers Sal and Beatrice!
Cheers!!!
Amazing! I lived at the embassy suites for almost 6 months in 1995 when I was 6 years old. Can still remember buying a VHS copy of Hocus Pocus at a book store on the ground level and watching it over and over in the hotel room.
Cheers for the nostalgia!! xD
Does footage exist of Chevy Chase (the actor) at Chevy Chase (the place)?
I also wish to know/see this.
holy shit sal, i worked at the geico office catty corner to mazza gallerie for two years and was JUST talking with my partner last week about how i hoped you'd cover the chevy chase pavilion soon. this is amazing. thank you.
I’ve lived in the DMV area for over 20 years and have never had a reason to go to either mall. I went to that Cheesecake Factory once and we parked somewhere through there and took a shortcut inside, but I didnt’ see anything or any people, so we just waited for our order inside the restaurant.
Thank you Sal💘 love the journey . Commercials are a trip😎
Stay healthy🎶🎶🎶🎶🎯
This guy does not know how to make rice in the microwave!!! That was hilarious!!! He put a plastic knife in there with it!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂
At that part I was thinking WTF?
Chevy Chase (MD) had a bank named Chevy Chase Bank. After I moved to the area, somebody said they banked with Chevy Chase. I said, “Huh? They named a bank after Chevy Chase?” I was thinking the actor/comedian.
There once was a food court in here, along with a Pottery Barn. Barney's Co-op did eventually make it to Chevy Chase for a while, but it is was in the strip of stores near the Tiffany's.
Oh, and a Hold Everything store, and...uh....a Victoria's Secret and...a fancy day spa/salon on the top level. There was also a clothing store whose name escapes me, which sold sort of funky clothing.
the former Pottery Barn space became the H&M, now departed.
Excellent idea to do this recap.
The interior is so beautiful
your story about the baby darting to the railing stopped my heart. My kids are now all in their 20's but that was always a terror of mine. them falling off something.
Your mall pa lady brightens my day
Good vid mate
"lest they be moistened by its grotesqueries..." BEST. LINE. EVER. Sal. I spit Mt. Dew on my computer screen. I always watch to the end of every video, because a) I'm an 80's mall rat and b) who wants to change missing out on phrases like that!
I used to drive down with the family from PA on Friday nite, stay at the Embassy Suites and then hit the mall for sales on Saturday morning. So sad to see the decline...
Excellent video!! A+. Keep at it. In my opinion Lord and Taylor in Chevy Chase was one if the best stores that had the best variety of clothing. I think building should be turned in a Macy's!😀
Indianapolis has a very similar structure involving the Embassy Suites hotel in the city. Claypool Court is a tiny mall with maybe 50,000 of retail space, but is attached to Circle Centre mall which is a massive mall in the city. Anyway, the first floors of the Embassy Suites house this small mall, which used to have an Old Navy and other shops. Now it is mostly restaurants. All other retail is now in Circle Centre, which is also struggling. It’s a beautiful mall, though.
Thank u great video I just subscribed and hit the bell because I enjoyed it it was not boring it was very interesting great job brother
That carpark ceiling seemed really low. Like your cam was gonna get smashed.
The lady PA announcer !!!! always a great laugh !! English not being my first language, would it be possible for Sal to have what the announcer says in writing somewhere on the video or below ?
Oh sweet, the old payphones are still there (8:17 or so)! I thought they were gone.
Wow, that was actually a pretty clever Super Bowl commercial
This is so shocking for me to see. I went to the Pavilion once and I remember that place being packed to the point I was ready to leave within 5 minutes. Now it is so empty....and clearly dying....
I've stayed at the Embassy Suites in the CC Pavilion. It was a nice hotel!! Too bad to see this area go down like that. Hopefully it will come back around.
Another great video
OMFG - PA Lady has been hitting the hooch, again!
This stretch of Wisconsin Avenue was always happening and busy both with shoppers on foot and cars. So much bastard traffic. It's actually picking up a bit now (aka, getting busy on that stretch). Haven't visited Mazza or Chevy Chase Pavilion in a long while so thanks for taking the journey. I look forward to your tour of Ellsworth Place, which is not far from where I live. That place is... interesting...
Great video -- sound is much improved (I can hear you!). Thanx much!!
And they wonder why we called it barf-aroni as kids! The product Chevy Chase was hawking lasted about as long as the commercial did. Or that mall. I only wish Rice A Roni had lasted about as long.
I miss world market.
THIS COUNTRY IS CURSED. I Shopped at All these Beautiful , Gorgeous ,Great and Fabulous Places,. And they All Decline and Die. I Don't Understand why. Harbor Place, White Flint Mall, Landmark, Gaithersburg Mall, Mazza Galleria, Chevy Chase Pavillion, Georgetown Park , Springfield Mall, Laurel Mall, Burtonsville Shopping Center, Buchanan Mall, and the Crystal City Underground. Thriving, VERY BIZZY then BUST. 💙💖🇺🇸 GOD BLESS YOU! Thank You for your Hard Work and Videos. Much Appreciated. 😻✈️
They have talked about our mall in Onalaska, Wi being turned into apartments.. I thought that was a oddball idea.. but to have you mention that others on here may have also mentioned it.. Very interesting.
I'm late to the party, but once again, a great production. Plus, anything with a Cheesecake Factory is cool in my books.
Now Embassy Suits is owned by Hilton Hotels
Yep.
Asian here. Insta-rice is even HARDER to make than normal rice!
I’m Canadian married to an Asian. (filipina). I wouldn’t dare suggest instant rice here!
Will be interesting to see how the new development transpires. Hoping to make a trip to DC next year and revisit some of these places. Used to have some good wine sales at the World Market there. Sad to see things go downhill fast.
I'm curious to see what they do as well. We (the neighborhood) have fought against ALL medical, since there are already multiple medical buildings within a short distance. I'm all for retail at street level, offices or residences above. What I find interesting is that building housing would appear to make sense, but there's an incredibly densely built "village" of condos and rental buildings within 4 blocks of here, and two other large buildings even closer-and one of those two is also rentals. Unless they're reasonably priced, I'm not sure how much more residential space is needed.
I worked a CCP from construction top out. Opening was rushed to catch Christmas shopping. I left when the developer gave up stock in a cash call. Seems it was always on the margin.
Cheesecake Factory did gangbusters in those days.
I know a lady (wifes friend) named her dog after nieman markus. she LOVES that store so much. "its the ONLY place i shop". NO. she cant afford it.
at 19:33, that used to be a fancy restaurant, Range, run by one of the Voltaggio brothers. There was a lunch spot on the bottom floor connected to it, called...uh, Lunchbox? There also used to be a Bubbles hair salon as you 1st came up the escalators on the left.
Ah, there was a Steinmart here for a short while, too.
yes, it was lunchbox! i only went once when i was working at geico and was, uh, unimpressed. the only stores worth going to on that stretch were nordstrom rack, marshalls, and tj maxx lmao
I really hope they give new life to this mall because it's would be sad to see if they don't do anything to give back life and update
Gonna be by DC next week, hoping to make it to the triple throng.
Congrats on being fully vaxed. I'm 12 days away from dose 2 here myself, knock on wood. Hope to have my next gig and be back as a Patreon supporter soon because your approach to content is quite unique. I spent a couple years in DC in the late 1990s, so have enjoyed the DC-area coverage.
I found your CZcams recently & am slogging through (in a good way) your DMV & Maryland episodes. They are so well done & seemingly well researched. I hope they don’t leave you depressed. I used to feel sad about old streetscape commercial blocks that were mostly empty. I wonder whether they have a better chance of repurposing themselves. (see Jane Jacobs)
Hey Thomas, thanks for the kind words! It’s my mission to preserve the legacy of these awesome structures, and my pleasure to make content for you all. Cheers.
They really need to make these mall spaces with residential real-estate apartments and condos., they need permanent foot traffic and places like this will thrive
I love (and hopefully will Soon miss) your Covid-19 shpeels.
Loved your brief appearance, Sal! It was very Hitchcock-esque! And the tongue-yodelers? One of the creepiest things EVER in any vid...maybe it's my Jewishness coming out of me, but it made me think of Nazi-Germany...go figure. Love you, bro!
I'm telling my kids Marna is the 5th Golden Girl
Also Steven Reed: The Next Iron Chef
Most likely Chef Mic, I mean Steven, is a contender for America's Worst Cook... (wonder how long he can stand Chef Anne Burrell)
Hahaha!!!
Steven is dead
@@MBCMurrayPlaysRL - never realized Steven "didn't realize his dream" of facing "the wrath of Chef Anne Burrell"...
Even in its "heyday", this mall was just hohum.
yeah voltaggios restaurants seem to close allot then reopen into new restaurants . he lives in frederick md had two they closed then rebranded. volt and family meal now thacter and rye and family meal rebranded into something else
Lol hey is that rice clip from that show Dr. Steve Brule??
Good content...glad you're double vaxed, triple and quadruple might be even better. Unfortunately I'm zero vaxed and plan to stay that way.
Good for you, thanks for watching.