Why Mike Barnes VS Damian Isn’t Close
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- Why Mike Barnes VS Damian Isn’t Close
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Mike Barnes is the central antagonist in The Karate Kid Part III and a guest character in Season 5 in the Netflix series Cobra Kai. He is portrayed by Sean Kanan. Barnes was a greedy and unscrupulous professional karate fighter who is hired by Terry Silver to beat Daniel LaRusso at the 1985 All Valley Karate Tournament in exchange for fifty percent ownership of Silver's new Cobra Kai dojos. Barnes terrorizes Daniel constantly until the tournament, where he is ultimately defeated by Daniel. Daniel regarded his fight with Barnes as the most difficult and frightening of his life, and the painful memories of Mike's abuse haunted him well into adulthood. Because of this, Barnes was often regarded as Daniel's greatest foe. Due to his actions during the tournament, Mike was banned from competitive karate, and he ultimately turned over a new leaf and became a better man pursuing a lucrative career as a furniture salesman. Damian "Dame" Anderson, also known by his stage name "Diamond Dame", is the main antagonist of the 2023 sports drama film Creed III, the overall ninth installment in the Rocky film series. He is the childhood best friend of Adonis "Donnie" Creed and an aspiring professional boxer with a distinct aggressive fighting style. He is portrayed by Jonathan Majors, who also plays all variants of Kang the Conqueror in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. As a teenager, he was portrayed by Spencer Moore II. Robert "Rocky" Balboa (also known by his ring name The Italian Stallion) is a fictional character and the titular protagonist of the Rocky film series. The character was created by Sylvester Stallone, who has also portrayed him in eight of the nine films in the franchise. He is depicted as a working class or poor Italian-American from the slums of Philadelphia who started out as a club fighter and "enforcer" for a local Philly Mafia loan shark. He is portrayed as overcoming the obstacles that had occurred in his life and in his career as a professional boxer. While the story of his first film is loosely inspired by Chuck Wepner, a boxer who fought Muhammad Ali and lost on a TKO in the 15th round, the inspiration for the name, iconography and fighting style came from boxing legend Rocco Francis "Rocky Marciano" Marchegiano, though his surname coincidentally also resembles that of Middleweight Boxing Champion Thomas Rocco "Rocky Graziano" Barbella. Cobra Kai is an American martial arts comedy-drama streaming television series and a sequel to the Karate Kid's original movie directed by Robert Mark Kamen. The series was created by Josh Heeld, John Harwitz, Hayden Schlossberg, and Ralph Macchio and William Zabka, who repeated their roles as Daniel LaRusso and Johnny Lawrence in the 1984 movie The Karate Kid. Thirty-four years later, the Cobra Kai examines the story of "Miyagi Verse" from Johnny's point of view, his decision to reopen the Cobra Kai Karate Dojo, and the resurgence of his old competition with Daniel. The Cobra Kai also plays Xolo Mariduena, Tanner Buchanan, Mary Mouser, Jacob Bertrand, Gianni Dechenzo, Martin Kove, Vanessa Rubio and Peyton List. This series is a direct sequel to the four original films of The Karate Kid franchise, focusing on the characters of Daniel LaRusso and Johnny Lawrence, more than 30 years after the original film. Following the first two seasons on CZcams, Netflix will release the second season. Rocky Balboa is a 2006 American sports drama film written and directed by, and also starring, Sylvester Stallone. It is the sequel to Rocky V (1990) and is the sixth installment in the Rocky franchise. It also stars Burt Young and Antonio Tarver. In the film, Rocky Balboa (Stallone), now an aging small restaurant owner, is challenged to an exhibition fight by hothead boxer Mason Dixon (Tarver). Rocky Balboa was Antonio Tarver's first and only film, and Stallone's first film as director since Rocky IV (1985). Development for a sixth Rocky film began after Stallone expressed regret of the outcome of Rocky V, which was viewed as a disappointing conclusion to the end of the franchise.
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You gotta do Chozen vs Apollo Creed, both characters are the GOAT of their franchises
No that match wouldn’t line up a chozen vs Ricky conlan would be a close match up
And Johnny vs Apollo would be close considering the comparison between them and the protagonists
@@richyrich69 Johnny or Chozen would be fine, but Ricky Conlan vs Chozen bro. Tf kinda matchup is this 🤣
chozen is not the goat its mr miyagi
*Rocky Balboa enters the chat*
@@salvadorlucero1034I said that considering that drago is miles ahead of chozen and the fact that Ricky conlan kinda alignes with chozen in kk think about it chosen is no clubber and he can’t be mason dixon so who else he’s the most neutral
Daniel LaRusso ( Karate Kid 1) vs Dre Parker (Karate Kid 2010) who is truly The Karate Kid
Agreed, Mike is often underrated by most people
It really pissed me off when stupid A holes kept insisting that KK1 Johnny would beat KK3 Mike. I say that KK3 Mike would beat KK2 Chozen with no more than minimal difficulty if the fight did not involve certain weapons like sword or spear since Chozen specialized in that but if its just a hands and feet fight my money would be on Mike and in their brief fight in Cobra Kai Mike actually seemed to have a small advantage as he got a really good hit into Chozen's face and he seemed stronger, gradually driving Chozen backwards with his relentlessness.
@@Zurround IKR, I would argue that Mike is possibly the strongest character in Cobra Kai CURRENTLY, not Chozen, because Chozen, after practicing and mastering martial arts his whole life, still WAS losing against a retired Mike, Mike actually was beating him, and Mike took a hit to the head by a very heavy and strong object (I forgot what it was), and he didn't even bleed, not to mention that object was swung by a master martial artist, extraordinary
As for Young Barnes, lets just put it like this:
KK3 Mike Barnes>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>KK3 Daniel>>>>>KK2 Daniel>KK2 Chozen>>>>>KK1 Daniel=KK1 Johnny
Therefore young Mike beats young Johnny and young Chozen negative diff
@@four8159 I posted on a different thread that a great "alternate universe" fantasy would be if it was Mike instead of Daniel being fought to death at the ceremony at the end of KK2 and Mike wins then does NOT spare Chozen's life the way Daniel did.
Another "alternate universe" situation I would love to see would be Mike tormenting and abusing JOHNNY instead of Daniel in KK3.
All of these stupid @$$H0L3$ who insist that KK1 Johnny beats KK3 Mike really piss me off.
@@four8159If it was in the karate kid I agree Mike is much better but in cobra kai I think they are equal. Mike only hit Chozen once and they are equal Chozen also hit Mike twice but Mike was off guard.
bro had to praise the kk verse after makin a vid abt rocky slamming daniel lmaoo 😭
I didn't see that one but doesn't surprise me since with cobra Kai, Daniel isn't even the beat in his verse.
@@madmehr he’s the best out of all the characters who are alive but yea miyagi and kim sun yung >
@roxasstan Nah. Chozen and Barnes would destroy Daniel in a serious all out fight. Barnes was ALWAYS superior to Daniel. Daniel beat Barnes in a tournament setting because of the point. Outside of the tournament Barnes didn't even feel Daniel's punches and was physically superior in every way. Daniel only beat Silver because Silver was already tired and wounded from his fight with Chozen. Full strength Silver mopped the floor with Daniel in episode 5.
He's not praising one movie out of the other he just giving his opinion on who's winning a fight. Not every rocky character is suppirior to the kk universe
@roxasstan why did daniel always come equal to johnny what about chozen beating daniel in every sparing match and yes terry silver is better daniel won once
If you compare KK3 Mike Barnes to the young version of Damien then Damien is approximately a year older because the movie credits said Damien:Age 18 then the actor's name and in Karate Kid the oldest allowed to compete in that age division of the All Valley are 17, So KK3 Mike Barnes (even though the actor was 22 when it was filmed) would be about a year younger than Damien was in his first scene and that is A LOT of growth, training and experience for that age group giving Damien a significant advantage.
However, imagine if Mike was a year older in some alternate universe so its both of them at 18 facing each other with another YEAR of training for Mike. Even then Damien destroys him at JUST BOXING but a street fight includes kicks and other techniques and Mike is an absolute MASTER at karate.
Dude can you please continue posting, you are one of the funniest CZcamsrs I watch and you still give a good opinion so please come back🙏
1. Do a what if the dojos never split in S4. And how does Mike scale to peak Daniel in S5
I heard that when Mike Barnes was created the producers had in mind to create a white Mike Tyson. We can see that they were successful.
It's a common rule in every movie/show involving martial arts that some people never noticed. Martial artists are the best fighters in the fictional world, regardless of their physical condition. Attacks that wouldn't work in real life work in movies, dodges that wouldn't work in real life also work in movies, and so on. Considering karate is a martial art very well balanced in defense, punching and kicking, and all the older Cobra Kai fighters have amazing battle iq, Mike Barnes wins.
YES and this show treats the Martial arts ability as a "super power" that is permanent once you get it, and the ability tends to match the ability of the ACTOR rather than what would be realistic for the CHARACTER. It matters not that Mike was banned from competition (though he might have trained on his own, the story does not really tell us) or that realistically all of Johnny's physical conditioning and muscle tone should have been replaced with a beer gut but because the ACTOR had kept himself in shape and trained that was what he was like.
Honestly, people have to remember that the disparity between the two verses isn't that great. On one side we have fighters at the peak of human (or even superhuman) physical capacity who can fight for several minutes without looking tired and destroy bricks, blocks of ice, wooden beams with their punches and even whole stone statues with their kicks. . Not to mention the special techniques, of course. On the other hand, I can mainly highlight the resilience and durability of the Rocky franchise fighters. All are stupidly tough and resilient, able to take beatings so severe they would make even a gorilla fall. Not to mention their energy, being able to keep fighting for over 20 minutes with 1 minute gaps to recover. It would be an extremely difficult fight, but my point goes to Damien for the simple fact that Mike was knocked out quickly in his last fight.
@@jaum4596 Mike was knocked out by being hit in the back of the head with a weapon. That is different from a boxing glove. Not really comparable.
I think there are two reasons for this. 1) martial arts look better onscreen because they get to do more acrobatic moves (even if most of those acrobatic moves aren't utilized in real-world MA tournaments or anything and are more for exhibition). And 2) martial arts are more connected to Asian cultures, even if most countries have their own MA. It goes back to the very outdated idea that somehow Asian cultures are more spiritual and, in some realms of fiction, outright supernatural.
@@Aaron-zt5eewell Asian martial arts are the most effective in a street fight
Awesome video man
Surprised Crisis didn't slam Damian's name early on lmao
That would be a really good fight
Shawn Payne is similar to Damian Anderson
Can you do mr.Miyagi vs mr. Han from karate kid 2010??
Miyagi would have to win because whenever there is a fictional crossover between 2 similar characters the more ICONIC one wins. Look at all of the comic book crossovers. For example if Batman fights Snake Eyes from GI Joe Batman wins and if Superman fights Homelander from The Boys Superman wins. The writers will have the more iconic character win because more people would WANT to see that so its worth more money and its showing more respect to a more iconic character. Note this only applies when there is NOT some extreme power difference. For example, unless there was a damned good plot device to justify it Batman would not win a fight against Homelander despite being more iconic due to the extreme difference in the powers of their characters.
Mr. Miyagi is way more iconic so if a fictional crossover story involving them fighting ever were to happen the writers of the story would make sure Miyagi wins.
@@Zurround......I get your point... but fuking Superman vs Homelander? Bad example yo
This is the most random match up I’ve ever seen😂😂..
Damien won his fight easily at age 18 against that guy they made him fight but I wonder how 18 year old Damien would have done against an 18 year old version of APOLLO CREED. I think that easy "checkmate" he got as a teen early in the movie would NOT have been so "easy" if his opponent had been an 18 year old version of Apollo.
Can you do Chozen vs Viktor Drago 🙂
Why he stop posting on this channel
Ay gotta ask why he stop posting on here
Do Adonis creed vs cobra Kai characters
Prime Mr. Miyagi vs Rocky
Terry Silver vs Damian!
barnes one shots
Fr
GET UP
😂
What ifs please you are one of the best what if CZcamsrs and what-ifs are dying now because a bunch of what if you to CZcamsrs either left CZcams or stop doing what ifs.please
Robby vs Adonis
Adonis slams
18 year old Robby would beat 18 year old Adonis in a fight in my opinion.
@@Zurround probably but we never see an
18 year old Adonis closest is a I think 14/15 year so maybe s1/2 vs creed 3 young Adonis
@@Jayblood415 17 year old Mike Barnes had a major size/strength advantage over 15 year old Adonis. 2 years is A LOT in the teens and I am not even sure that they would be in the same weight division. Its actually possible that Mike would have won AT JUST BOXING with those ages. Adonis had no real training at that point and was just functioning off of natural talent and a world class karate fighter will still be good (by conventional standards, obviously not beating a top level professional) at boxing.
@@Zurround true
Karate's bad boy
Yea after seeing season 5 one solid hit from Damian and Mike going to sleep
Dame is leagues above Barnes. Anyone who thinks otherwise is on that crack rock
Exactly lol mike is like mid 50s and Damian is only early 40s and is way more fit than barnes
@@chingon718 Damien might only be 36 or 38. I think 36 since he was 18 when sent to prison and supposedly served 18 years, added together its 36. The continuity is a tad screwy in both franchises though.
@@chingon718 I am wondering how a fight would have goon between KK3 Mike and a 17 year old version of Damien. Mike might win that one as Damien would have been way less strong and way less experienced and Mike was an off the charts skilled master not some schlub who earned his black belt at some generic karate school in a minimall somewhere. He was the real deal. Even then it might be close and only win if its a real fight where at just boxing Mike still gets beaten.
John Kreese vs Apollo Creed next?
Chozen vs Apollo Creed is better
@@salvadorlucero1034 nah mr miyagi vs drago is better
Apollo Slams Kreese
@@FB-nw8pp Nah Kreese might be slow but he would just throw Apollo to the ground and beat the crap out of him.
@@H.K.5 Not a fair comparison. Nothing in Apollo's training prepared him for a fight on the ground since in boxing that cannot happen.
What if Cobra Kai won the school fight
This is just ridiculous Damian drawed blood just from one punch. Mike is not beating him
That is not that impressive, Damian gets his ass whooped
@@goldmamba9719 A boxing match is NOT the exact same thing as a street fight. Being able to beat someone in a boxing match is NOT a guarantee that you would win a street fight. Obvious examples are an MMA fighter or Muay Thai Kick boxer losing at just boxing to someone that they would beat in a fight due to their extra ability but that can even be true between two BOXERS. For example Mohammid Ali beat George Forreman in the "Rumble in the Jungle" in round 10, that is nearly half an hour of fighting time not counting intermissions and George was bigger, stronger, hit harder and had more raw power and Mohammid Ali won by enduring several rounds of painful punches "rope a dope" then capitalized on George's fatigue in round 10. Boxing gloves reduce the damage of a punch compared to a bare fist and had it been a street fight Mohammid would NOT have lasted nearly half an hour and George would have killed him.
Hey do Yuri Boyka vs someone from the Cobra Kai Universe.
Yuri Boyka stomps 💀💀
I want the only person who beat him, George "Iceman" Chambers vs certain Rocky universe boxers. My personal opinion is he loses to prime Ivan, prime Apollo, and Prime Rocky and beats Mason Dixon, Damien, Conlon, Tommy Gunn and Viktor Drago.
That's not a fight, that's a murder.
Bro gets nagged by Anthony LaRusso 💀
Mike Barns Slams Damian, but I don’t know about my Boy Spider Reco. Lol
Barnes slams
Rocky characters can’t beat Cobra Kai characters. The characters from Cobra Kai (especially the Senseis) are too well rounded.
@@Chriso22 lol I already debunked that vid
@Jake Collins the kids can smash concrete so yea they can
@@bell5248bruh I can smash concrete blocks those are cinder blocks which keep in mind are very weak compared to concrete blocks an average Joe can break concrete blocks if they had the right mindset
Mike Barnes has hands and feet, Damien has just hands.
@@Youwantbeefool lol no u can’t
Mike to Damien "Theres nothing you got that I can't counter, your boxings a joke!"
And yet in reality boxing somehow always beats karate lol
@@heretopissyouoff8439in real life but this is fiction
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Mike annihilates this poser
Lmao no😊
Who would win in this rocky vs karate kid match up
Ivan drago or mr miyagi
All drago needs to do is land one hit and then mr miyagi is dead but mr miyagi is the master of miyagi so who would win
True that Drago can literally one shot him but we have literally never seen anyone in the karate kid even land a hit on Mr.Miyagi
@@MrGio-ri9tc yh except chozen I think
@@imtiyazyasir23 his back was turned and mr miyagi would one shot chozen
mr miyagi can break a solid tree branch so he has some scaling
@@dillonhall3294 him breaking the support beam is nothing compared to Ivan Drago scaling to large building level from Rambo tanking a bazooka since he damages Rocky. (Rocky's been stated to have gone either way with Rambo by Sylvester in a bloody match)
Robby would beat Rocky no diff
Damien negs
Anyone who thinks Barnes would beat Damien has never trained in martial arts or combat sports. Boxing beats karate... or you'd be seeing karatekas in boxing tournaments... but you don't.
Damien would win
in real life
No just no
@@thunderkatz4219yes just yes
nice lmao