I Bought a Toasty Bros PC Build Undercover...

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  • čas přidán 29. 03. 2022
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  • @ToastyBros
    @ToastyBros Před 2 lety +4161

    Hey Zach! Thanks for the review. Just a couple of notes we had but overall appreciate the feedback.
    Our cost for the Ryzen 5 5600G systems that you reviewed is $648.18. Sadly, we don't have all the connections we want yet to make our systems more affordable. This is something we have spent a lot of R&D on and hope to bring the price down even more this year.
    With our $50 off promo right now, we are only profiting $100, and that is before paying our employees well above minimum wage.
    Regarding Aresgame power supplies. We appreciate the feedback and will take it into consideration for our lower end PC's. We have shipped and built around a thousand systems with this power supply and have had a total of two go bad and it was DOA. But again, we will look into options to improve on this!
    We definitely give you props for the builds you sell on your site! We hope to keep working on building those connections and offer better pricing.
    Oh and we decided to create code ZTT10 for 10% off all our builds for the next two days.

    • @CoalitionGaming
      @CoalitionGaming Před 2 lety +436

      Honestly you guys are absolute professionals when it comes to constructive feedback and criticism. Major props. 🤘

    • @dricebaker6594
      @dricebaker6594 Před 2 lety +186

      You guys took the criticism like a champ and we really appreciate you guys for your honesty!

    • @atlasreflex3584
      @atlasreflex3584 Před 2 lety +99

      We love toasty bros

    • @megapowgaming9117
      @megapowgaming9117 Před 2 lety +70

      Toasty Bros ftw, professional as hell, quality as hell, gonna be a giant!

    • @skylermcmorris2835
      @skylermcmorris2835 Před 2 lety +23

      Two of my favorite CZcamsrs building better connections with each other?!? Love to see it 👍

  • @MrBubblesTheMonkey
    @MrBubblesTheMonkey Před 4 měsíci +63

    zach: "im not trying to be disrespectful and just giving my honest opinion"
    zach: *proceeds to roast the living shit out of toasty bros*

    • @justachillingcat
      @justachillingcat Před 3 měsíci +2

      while advertising his own shop lol

    • @jeremygeorgia4943
      @jeremygeorgia4943 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@justachillingcat I noticed that. "You should NEVER pay that much for THEIR PC. If you want to save money, check out OUR PC." I mean, it's fine to do a competitive review, now & then. You can even be critical. You just need to be honest. However, at that point in the video, it kinda tended to border on tacky. I don't think it quite crossed the line, but mixing the self promotion in a critical review can make one question your motives. ALSO, he questioned the seeming low margins on parts, (Aka. fair prices) and he also said that he'd gladly pay full price for the case. Yet, he complained about the overall price, and mentioned how much cheaper his own build was.

  • @JuanSPerez-yl2du
    @JuanSPerez-yl2du Před rokem +60

    Dudes is roasting them and plugging his own LLC 😂 lmfao

    • @creditrazer981
      @creditrazer981 Před 4 měsíci

      Imagine that right, they call this reverse marketing. I don't fall for it, but who's to say others dont.

  • @XcapSupa
    @XcapSupa Před 2 lety +77

    i fr just wanted to see what it’s like to get a pc from the toasty bros and ended up learning every single detail about some dudes business plans and what he wants to do with it

    • @StevePringle
      @StevePringle Před rokem +1

      Welcome to the Internet.😁 At least we know about the PSU tier list. Normally stick with Corsair (USA) and ASUS (International) to avoid issues or get reliable help if one pops up.

    • @malaki4519
      @malaki4519 Před 4 měsíci

      Well just don’t. They literally lied about the price they built it at considering when they commented multiple people built the same system for 2-300 less

    • @smlatifmd
      @smlatifmd Před 3 měsíci

      I mean they’re a business and they’re allowed to charge what they want for it?
      Ultimately the price I get components for doesn’t also have to factor in rent, utilities, and employees.

  • @nerdonabudget
    @nerdonabudget Před 2 lety +591

    Daaaaang Zach came in HOT! Very fair criticism overall, I'm sure the Toasty Bros will definitely take a lot of it to heart and improve where they can. This exact video was in my backlog of vids to do but you got to it first! Now I can't review a PCBros system otherwise I'd be called a copycat, dang it!

  • @highrollertv3782
    @highrollertv3782 Před 2 lety +133

    Redo this whole video and directly leave your company out of the convo and this would be a dang near spot on review plus after all the reviews that you can easily find on that PSU you should google before bashing it just because you would never use it seems a bit like a shin tackle if i have ever heard one otherwise keep making videos as we all appreciate the tech community being a open place!!!

    • @tridens6708
      @tridens6708 Před 2 lety

      Zak you used shit power supplies your self promoting your own company to much

    • @GetOffMyTech
      @GetOffMyTech Před 2 lety +4

      💯

    • @theforerunnerreclaimer
      @theforerunnerreclaimer Před 2 lety +16

      Fr, he couldn't go 2 minutes without plugging his own company...no issue with that except its supposed to be a "fair" review

    • @jayjayy904
      @jayjayy904 Před rokem

      Because his company is better than toasty shit bros

  • @devonjohnson8536
    @devonjohnson8536 Před rokem +13

    I've used well over 100 AresGame PSUs in builds for people over the last couple years. Packaging and build quality on them are amazing, up there with EVGA and Corsair in terms of that. Performance wise I have never ran into an issue with any of them thus far. All the systems I have built with those have had dediicated GPUS as well

  • @Belskxhrsxdmwjdje
    @Belskxhrsxdmwjdje Před 2 lety +11

    I have used 20+ units of the aresgame psu and I have not had a single issue with any of them. Fantastic for the price.

  • @ALabInSaintDenis
    @ALabInSaintDenis Před 2 lety +489

    Fair review. In my opinion it would have been better without plugging your own company. Don't get me wrong, I'm an entrepreneur and I understand, but that turned it from an honest and fair review to almost a hater review to build your own company. No disrespect because again I understand why you did that, but it would have made for a better review to me if you didn't.

    • @edboiii_5530
      @edboiii_5530 Před 2 lety +24

      Literally as he was saying that I read this comment

    • @dessthemess9485
      @dessthemess9485 Před 2 lety +32

      I definitely agree, wanted to search the comments to see if another individual had the same criticism.

    • @incurseio
      @incurseio Před 2 lety +18

      I agree. It takes away from the "fair" part of the criticism.

    • @Grievous-
      @Grievous- Před 2 lety +3

      I was also thinking the exact same thing.

    • @twiztedclown
      @twiztedclown Před 2 lety

      Wow reading these comments it's no wonder we have an over 538% global inflation in just over 5 decades. We seem to have the biggest bottom feeder of consumers here. Build a pc yourself you'll realize the value isn't really here regardless of personal plug and it does say bought undercover.

  • @scottxt339
    @scottxt339 Před 2 lety +65

    I love the toastybros, I’ve bought amd stock / wraith stealth coolers from them and it shipped fast and it was well packaged .I am a long time fan of the Toastybros as I’ve been watching them for a over a year

  • @bishop5400
    @bishop5400 Před rokem +6

    Excellent review, and I like watching the toasty Bros channel. I learn from them all the time. I also realize you kind of get what you pay for, I still think it's best just to build your own. On a positive note, I see no reason why this computer being reviewed is probably a very reliable and really fast computer. Okay for gaming at low to medium settings at 1080p or 720p resolutions.

  • @ANGELMORALES-xn8jt
    @ANGELMORALES-xn8jt Před 7 měsíci +1

    Great video! Honest and fair review and good to know these things before hand!

  • @nunyabeeswax3012
    @nunyabeeswax3012 Před 2 lety +21

    I appreciate the review and the details you gave on the parts. I definitely like that you touched on the power supply a bit, and I totally get why you didn't obsess over it, _but_ I thought I'd give a bit more information on what group regulation means, for anyone interested:
    To explain this, we'll have to talk about what a power supply in a PC does. The power that comes from your wall is not consistent enough to be used in a computer (it's AC, if you want to look into that further.) A power supply must convert it into power that your system can use (DC.) A power supply outputs power in 3 voltages: 12V, 5V, and 3.3V. 12V is what will be used the most; your CPU and GPU both draw from it. Modern systems will often draw several hundred watts from this rail. The other rails are referred to as the minor rails, powering things like RAM, storage, and sometimes lighting. Since going from 1.4V to 1.9V to the CPU is usually enough to kill it, it's important that these "rails" stay consistent. As such, these should be regulated separately, ideally. In most modern power supplies, this is the case; good units typically use what's called DC-DC, where it will convert the input power to 12V, then convert the 12V to 5V and 3.3V as needed with buck converters.
    This is where group regulation becomes a problem. With group regulation, 5V and 12V are regulated on the same coil. If power draw becomes substantially different on 5V compared to 12V, regulation will start to fail since the PSU has to switch between 5V and 12V constantly. Ohn's law states that power is equal to the product of current and voltage. So if 5V and 12V are outputting different enough wattages (power,) and the PSU can't keep up, then the 12V rail starts to output a voltage lower than 12V, with 5V outputting higher than 5V. In modern systems, it's not uncommon for hundreds of watts to be drawn from the 12V rail, with under 100 combined being drawn by the other rails. This is why group regulation is a problem for modern systems.
    The AGV500 might not be a huge issue with a 5600G alone, but when the buyer adds a dGPU down the line, that's when it can present problems. And, of course, just untested protections.

    • @Trylena
      @Trylena Před rokem

      I think this is important information. Tier E PSUs can be bad but it depends of what will you do with that PC. I got my brother a Xigmatec Zpower because I couldnt afford any other PSU and it does good on the system because its an iGPU.

  • @woostinstechflip
    @woostinstechflip Před 2 lety +11

    I used those psus, and they are not as bad as you would think man. Definitely better than something that is 80+ white

  • @brianmurray7069
    @brianmurray7069 Před rokem +1

    Two best value channels in one video. I loved video, and great response by ToastyBros. Stinks these two businesses are in competition with eachother, since margins in this space are so low.

  • @PinkyTech
    @PinkyTech Před 2 lety +171

    I don't think you can fairly call that PSU a fire hazard for being on the list when it is in a section that says it may just be there isn't enough info on it. Considering they are willing to support it with warranty and have a lot of experience with it, I would think they have good faith in it, otherwise their support costs would go through the roof. Also, not fair to assume they are getting better than retail pricing when they are a small SI.

    • @FlySoto
      @FlySoto Před 2 lety +15

      I’ve got the 650 watt model at the moment. Running a 3700x and 2070 super for over a year. Just yesterday i made the switch to intel and got the 12700kf and still using the same psu. Pretty solid to me.

    • @Fenrirsleash
      @Fenrirsleash Před 2 lety +8

      @@FlySoto yep ive used a few aries games psus with no problems either

    • @GetOffMyTech
      @GetOffMyTech Před 2 lety +3

      Same here 5600g build with 1660 super Overclocked and a ares 500w, no problem at all.

    • @AudricAG
      @AudricAG Před 2 lety +3

      I’ve used the Ares Game psu and it has held up perfectly well for 1 year

    • @TDC_RAW
      @TDC_RAW Před 2 lety +2

      yea, the focus on the psu wasnt really selling me on his review. I put an aresgaming psu in my girlfriends pc when her evga600w psu went out about two years ago and that psu has been kicking just fine. out of the last 4 psu ive had, two of them were aresgaming, and two were evga. Guess which ones I haven't had to replace?

  • @Razor-gx2dq
    @Razor-gx2dq Před 2 lety +1

    I have a Aresgame AGW 650 in my personal rig and I have used it for more than a year, no issues.

  • @Artxmly
    @Artxmly Před 2 lety

    nice vid bro Im waiting for that launch

  • @tyzer24
    @tyzer24 Před 2 lety +13

    Fair review. Little harsh on the power supply. I purchased like 20 of these for builds. No issues. But I'd rather see a 650w psu or better for the customers eventual gpu upgrade. 500w is a little low for mid range gpu's.
    Nice video!

    • @spankbuda7466
      @spankbuda7466 Před rokem +2

      So what he said was "a little harsh" about the PSU but you even stated that it's a "little low for mid range GPU's" after knowing that this 500w PSU is the "bottom of the barrel" PSU that isn't meant for a mid range PC.

    • @slaydog5102
      @slaydog5102 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@spankbuda7466many people buy this psu on a budget and then upgrade down the line, it's not the end of the world.

  • @imborred55
    @imborred55 Před rokem +43

    "this video isn't about starting drama"
    *Shits on their build*
    "Don't ever buy this! Buy mine instead! It's better I promise!"

    • @JamesSteal
      @JamesSteal Před rokem +10

      Toasty Bros PCs are 💩. $1000 for a 10th gen i3/GTX 1650 with no free shipping. $865 for a Ryzen 5600g PC. Their builds and specs aren't any better than the ones they make fun of.

    • @jway202
      @jway202 Před 11 měsíci +2

      More efficient to build your on PC 😂

    • @isaiahjohnson9857
      @isaiahjohnson9857 Před 11 měsíci +2

      ​@@JamesStealso we're should I buy a pre build from I just need a PC to run ps2 and psp emulators that's the main thing I'll use it for

    • @TherealBlackheart
      @TherealBlackheart Před 8 měsíci +1

      Exactly

    • @aeroflopper
      @aeroflopper Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@isaiahjohnson9857buy a smart phone, dies all that. never buy a prebuilt, they prebuilt to make money, you can buy better parts cheaper and a child could put a pc together

  • @user-db4lk7yg3o
    @user-db4lk7yg3o Před 2 lety +23

    I have used my Aresgame 500w power supply very frequently in two different builds since i got it in January of 2021. I can't exactly say its perfectly safe, because I've always used below 400w systems with it (rx 570 + i5 4570, and then rx 570 + i3 10100f,) but it hasn't given me a single problem in all the time I've had it.

    • @guildpilotone
      @guildpilotone Před 2 lety +2

      I have an Aresgame 650 watt psu in my home-built system and I've been very happy with it for the 15 months it has been in service. And, I must say, when you start your review with an "I'm not trying to create drama" statement... well it means you know you're trying to start drama. Doubt I'll ever watch another video on this channel.

  • @JonesTheLad
    @JonesTheLad Před 2 lety +62

    Saw toasty bros in the title…. Love seeing two channels I watch doing a collab… even if one of them didn’t know they were collaborating🤣

  • @michaelthompson9798
    @michaelthompson9798 Před 2 lety +3

    Enjoyed the vid 😇👍. A “Tier E” psu doesn’t necessarily mean certain model exploding Gigabyte psu or H1 (Rev.1) riser cable fire issue. Not a great psu compared to others at a similar/same price as mentioned but not necessarily a fire hazard 🤔

  • @oogajon
    @oogajon Před 2 lety

    I didn’t realize that case was so popular, I saw it on sale for 45$ on Newegg awhile back and bought it for my girlfriends build. It has been awesome.

  • @LordVader5738
    @LordVader5738 Před 2 lety +1

    Man, I have never clicked on a link as fast as I did with the tier list. I rushed in there to check my PSU.
    At first I could not understand it well, but after reading the legend I think we are good. I got a Corsair RM750. Happy to see it under the Tier A 😀

  • @barbararyals-farrand5403
    @barbararyals-farrand5403 Před 4 měsíci +1

    better yet build your own with parts from marketplace, amazon, walmart, ebay, and damaged shipping stores.. just takes time and can be very rewarding when your done. plus you learn something. youtube and social media has a lot of dyi help

  • @complx501
    @complx501 Před 2 lety +46

    Hey Zach I follow both you guys and I do agree that some of the Toasty Bros builds aren't nearly as nice as yours for sure with aesthetics but they tend to focus on more of what you can afford and do put the Costa of the builds on the channel. Most for the builds are done on CZcams as well so it may very well be that it's just more costly for then to build where they are. That being said I mean Amazon and eBay do have very good deals as well as Newegg so it's something for them to consider.
    Lol like most other person's in the comments I think it may have been best to leave out you AD for ZTT builds to make it more fair to them. Kinda seemed like you were using the opportunity to push ur own builds... Aresgame is also a solid low budget PSU which I have used for over a year with no issues in a lower end build with a GPU 500w

    • @unknownplayer10k
      @unknownplayer10k Před 3 měsíci +1

      Don't they sell i3 10100f + rx 6600 pc build on 1000$? Is that affordable?

  • @Nusca93
    @Nusca93 Před 2 lety

    New sub. Love the vid! Just getting into the world of gaming pcs myself and learnin new stuff daily lol.

  • @ayeimjustabackup
    @ayeimjustabackup Před 9 měsíci +25

    $850 for a $300 build is insane

  • @MoonkeyMod
    @MoonkeyMod Před 2 lety

    Add a low tac sticky tear off label to the GPU outs if you want your customer to connect to them, minor cost big aftercare time saving!

  • @Fenrirsleash
    @Fenrirsleash Před 2 lety +1

    I have never had any problems with my Aries psu. Ive used a few. I guess im lucky haha. Great content! keep it up.

  • @MAX-ol7xj
    @MAX-ol7xj Před 2 lety

    I mainly use the bigger brands; Asus, Corsair, Bequiet, Seasonic, SilentiumPC for PSU.
    Only use lower tiers if higher not available.

  • @anthonypoirier3068
    @anthonypoirier3068 Před 2 lety +6

    I personally have used the same exact PSU 3 times without flaw, and I've used a EVGA PSU also, and that is the one that was faulty.

    • @DroneMee
      @DroneMee Před 2 lety +2

      yeah he was just saying dumb things to try and make the PC look bad so his PC he sells would look better. Very scummy suggesting his competitors sell PCs that are fire hazards....ARESGAME makes fine products. The only bad thing about their power supplies is the efficiency. As proven by Gamers Nexus with actual power supply testing equipment and methodology.

    • @HorrorQue
      @HorrorQue Před 2 lety +1

      @@DroneMee Lol, the price alone made it look bad he didn't even have to mention the power supply.

    • @spankbuda7466
      @spankbuda7466 Před rokem

      You provided zero information of those 3 times that you used this PSU. We don't know the specs of your PC build that you used them in.

  • @janwitkowsky8787
    @janwitkowsky8787 Před 2 lety +1

    Similar build in Denmark.
    Ryzen 5-5600G
    MSI B450M Pro-VHD Max (Similar B550 board goes for $15-$20 more)
    G.Skill Aegis 2x8GB 3200 CL 16
    D Blue SN550 M.2 500GB
    Asus TUF Gaming 650B 650W
    AeroCool Trinity Mini-G Tempered Glass.
    600 USD with taxes
    480 pre-taxes. (Yeah, we have a 25% VAT)

  • @josiah16
    @josiah16 Před 2 lety +3

    To be fair, your equivalent PC build sports a 450w power supply. I would say that is not enough for a lot of gpus for a gpu upgrade as well.

  • @capslock4959
    @capslock4959 Před 2 lety +6

    Only thing id want them to do is add to their note saying that if you change to a dedicated gpu you should consider changing the psu as well. I think you went kinda hard on them to promote your own company

  • @seanferguson2051
    @seanferguson2051 Před 2 lety

    Honestly I've used several AGV 550-650 watt on several occasions for budget sales and never had issues

  • @marvingarcia7583
    @marvingarcia7583 Před rokem

    Hey! Zach! I think your website is a great place for pc gamers to buy prebuilt pcs off from, but it'd be really cool if you could be able to customize your pc (not spec wise but appearance wise like, change the color way of the pc, cables from the psu etc)

  • @m-umar-amir
    @m-umar-amir Před 2 lety +1

    Pc Bros Cheaped out! Did not expect it !

  • @EFFRRt
    @EFFRRt Před rokem +2

    As a pc builder as well I actually don’t like when it’s vertical 😅
    it’s weird to waste the extra time on that for me…
    but it’s still much better than it being turned towards the ram slots where it can possibly interfere with the ram sticks like I’ve seen a lot of builders do 🤮

  • @chaddfieldss1750
    @chaddfieldss1750 Před 2 lety +367

    As someone who has never watched your channel or PC Bros and saw this in my recommended….this felt tacky. You start by saying you didn’t want drama and wanted to be objective, but at every turn promoted your own business. You struck them down with negatives at every point then would offer a small line of positive. And the PSU…you admitted yourself you don’t know that much about them. If I were them and I saw this I’d be pretty upset, but seeing their reaction I can tell they’ve got much more maturity and class than you. In my brutally honest opinion (since that’s what you gave), this video spoke volumes about you, and very little about them.

    • @nelsontrick5660
      @nelsontrick5660 Před 2 lety +11

      yeah, i just unsubscribed... no sense of civility... poor taste

    • @nelsontrick5660
      @nelsontrick5660 Před 2 lety +9

      also adding for the algorithm to not recommend channel... pc bros response was an elegant retort...

    • @Burner709
      @Burner709 Před 2 lety +13

      He was making comparisons to his own business, whilst probably not intentionally plugging his own website. and he even criticized his own business saying he needs to make a quick start guide and he even said nice touch with the pen and he said it is very very well packaged. But also Zack needs to remember they are running a bigger business and they need to sell for more considering they have more employees

    • @scud553
      @scud553 Před 2 lety +5

      I agree, he could've done a lot better. Maybe he didn't truly didn't want to start drama, but making a video like this, what do you expect? Good thing the toasy bros responded in a very mature and responsible way. It's a good move for a smaller channel like him I guess as he's getting all this attention, but if it's at the cost of public opinion, then maybe not.

    • @Splatinum69
      @Splatinum69 Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah this guy kept plugging his store every 2 seconds but i agree with what he said

  • @UnboxerofWorlds
    @UnboxerofWorlds Před 2 lety +1

    I had no idea there was a power supply tier list. Thanks for that!!

  • @microtasker
    @microtasker Před 2 lety

    You can source those wifi adapters for about $3.50US. I found like 20 different models.

  • @PaulSman123
    @PaulSman123 Před 2 lety +1

    They have a AMD FX 6300 + GTX 1050 "Gaming PC" selling for $775 on sale from $850... there are multiple things that need to be evaluated with how they are pricing some of these "Gaming" PC's. I like Toasty Bros but really... FX 6300 and a 1050.

  • @soullegend5
    @soullegend5 Před 2 lety

    Great review

  • @AudricAG
    @AudricAG Před 2 lety +9

    The Psu is perfectly fine and bronze rated, a lot of people used it many times for their builds with a bare minimum of people saying it doesn’t work. Unlike an Evga PSU that I bought for 60 dollars that didn’t even start up

    • @RK-zf1jm
      @RK-zf1jm Před rokem

      Honestly I have a one in the 2400g with 1060 gpu and never had an issue when shes over we play co op day z its been a year and half or more no issues so am sure that the tier list is a good guide but i go with my personal experience when choosing power supplies.

    • @error7424
      @error7424 Před 4 měsíci

      bronze rated doesnt mean much tbh

  • @Jest_Fishing
    @Jest_Fishing Před 2 lety +3

    The link to this video has now been added to the definition of passive-aggressive in the new edition of the Webster’s dictionary. Seemed like a pretty good attempt of bashing someone’s business while not bashing someone’s business.

    • @FadiQv
      @FadiQv Před 2 lety

      It's called a product review. His points were valid.

    • @alexmiller3539
      @alexmiller3539 Před 2 lety +1

      @@FadiQv this is like Apple reviewing Samsung while plugging their own phones

    • @FadiQv
      @FadiQv Před 2 lety

      @@alexmiller3539 didn't Samsung already do something like that? Remember when they made fun of apples iphone notch?
      Brands undermine each other all the time.

    • @Grievous-
      @Grievous- Před 2 lety

      @@FadiQv That PSU is not a fire hazard at all, it just has low efficiency, yet Zach kept trying to put the fear of God into everyone by saying that it'll catch your build on fire, which is not the case.

  • @360brokebros3
    @360brokebros3 Před 2 lety +2

    As a former UPS employee I will say now that even with all the fragile stickers, your item won’t really be taken care of anymore than normally by the employees that have been there for awhile

  • @SK-jh5fd
    @SK-jh5fd Před 2 lety +5

    Love ur tech videos mate
    U actually helped me build a good pc

  • @dylanwilliamson4766
    @dylanwilliamson4766 Před 2 lety +1

    I’m using an Aresgame 550w with a 10400f and 3060 ti and it’s been working perfect for almost a year now so it might be tier E but price to performance is nutty lol

  • @captpootis8495
    @captpootis8495 Před 11 měsíci

    Hey to mention the Aresgame was moved to tier c, And i own one of these psu's and have had no problem using my ryzen 5 5500 and my 6700.

  • @cat_thegamer2.063
    @cat_thegamer2.063 Před rokem

    that's a nice looking pc hopefully you had a great year :)
    I came in late

  • @Mrhandyhitman
    @Mrhandyhitman Před 2 lety

    Ngl i looked at toasty bros website because i watch their videos, and yea most of their PC builds are a bit expensive. They either need to really negotiate or really look for deals when they buy parts to keep their cost low and profit hight but also give the customer a good deal. It’s hard i understand but it is possible

  • @16driver16
    @16driver16 Před rokem

    If I had a pc selling business I'd put a small sticker over the motherboard hmdi port not a huge sticker like some companies do but a semi-permanent sticker that covers it up entirely one you don't need to take it off to use the pc.

  • @xrade6547
    @xrade6547 Před 2 měsíci

    they took your advice on the power supply for the one I am planing to order its a tier c now instead of e and according to good they have no danger

  • @Kittsuera
    @Kittsuera Před rokem

    you can cheap out on a lot of things but never the power supply. thats the one thing that, if it fails, it can and will fry everything else.
    cheap out on anything else and you are only out that one component if it fails vs cheaping out on one component and loosing everything in the build if you are lucky and it doesn't take the house out with it when it fails.

  • @Oozaru85
    @Oozaru85 Před 3 měsíci

    Ive been using the FSP Fortron Hexa psus for years now and they still run with no issues. I honestly dont understand why they are in the tier e category. They are great psus for mid range systems.

  • @xxdropdeadxx6679
    @xxdropdeadxx6679 Před 2 lety

    Just bought my first gaming PC from origin PCs custom build spend 4300 ish with taxes 3080 graphic n went with amd since a fan recommended me that brand :)

  • @kevohkinuthia1398
    @kevohkinuthia1398 Před 2 lety +4

    That PSU is definitely not a "fire hazard,"

  • @_Raylo_
    @_Raylo_ Před rokem

    this type of damage can happen when the workers overload the belt or when someone doesn't know how to use a forklift properly

  • @ItsMessy
    @ItsMessy Před 4 měsíci

    The start of something incredible 😂❤

  • @johnpaulbacon8320
    @johnpaulbacon8320 Před 2 měsíci

    Nice review.

  • @aravindprabu2624
    @aravindprabu2624 Před 2 lety

    It's really thrilling to watch

    • @Grievous-
      @Grievous- Před 2 lety +1

      You've got to be a bot as there is no way this video was ever going to be thrilling. 🤦‍♂

    • @aravindprabu2624
      @aravindprabu2624 Před 2 lety

      @@Grievous- do i ??

  • @james64468
    @james64468 Před 2 lety

    I have AresGame 750W power supply no problems with it. I don't have issue with what Toasty Bros are using.

  • @booshaka331
    @booshaka331 Před rokem

    in the end you need a 30% profit to make it worth it weather u claim it in parts or u con it in shipping or both of course anyone can get a price on mailing for an item but there are accounts that give discounts on all the above just saying your base price might be cheaper than when shipping comes you can get wrecked vise versa

  • @ZinalaG59
    @ZinalaG59 Před rokem +1

    Oof I have a tier E psu and didn’t even know lol but it’s been working good for me for about a year now haha

  • @mtcoiner7994
    @mtcoiner7994 Před rokem

    I sell a lot of PC's and every other customer plugs the HDMI into the motherboard even though I make sure to tell them in person where to plug in. Just comes with the territory. A paper would help.

  • @casper464
    @casper464 Před 2 lety +15

    In all fairness, even big tech companies use sketchy / bad power supplys. Just because its not optimal doesnt mean it doesnt work as intended for a long time.

    • @grimekeepdrank
      @grimekeepdrank Před 2 lety +3

      bro ur tryna deny the fact they are selling an i3 pc for 1100 dollars wake up and stop being bias

  • @djkid4lyfe
    @djkid4lyfe Před 2 lety

    Im not sure if the criticism on the power supply is warranted. The tier E also could mean not enough information not necessarily a fire hazard. Ive had a gamemax 850 watt gold certified powersupply for 2 years no issues. And its also on that E tier list…

  • @PCTechHustle
    @PCTechHustle Před 2 lety +12

    That does seem like a bit of a wild price for an APU build. Great idea for a content piece though! Maybe I need to snag a ZTT build and give it my .02 🤔🤔🤔

    • @bubbleteabuilds2533
      @bubbleteabuilds2533 Před 2 lety

      They are quality since they are one shot pcs

    • @malaki4519
      @malaki4519 Před 4 měsíci

      Welp people were able to build this for 2-300 less then what they claimed they paid

  • @riebread13
    @riebread13 Před 2 lety

    newer oems use a sticker over the motherboard video output pointing to the correct port

  • @beachmaster8599
    @beachmaster8599 Před 2 lety

    I have the same pc but i have a 500 gb m.2 and a 1 tb hdd already for just 630$ and its hard to find pc like that here in my place in the Philippines , I added a monitor also so its around that price range already

  • @abdaimegaming2679
    @abdaimegaming2679 Před rokem +1

    look at those crazy prices

  • @Grievous-
    @Grievous- Před 2 lety +62

    Your "honest" review left a bad taste in my mouth. The whole time you were making assumptions about policies and practices of PCB that you had no clue about, but you also kept plugging your own business while ripping PCB apart. This was anything but an honest review.

    • @rometherevenant8749
      @rometherevenant8749 Před 2 lety +12

      I agree man it was a bit fucked up. At least Toasty Bros arent being unprofessional about it and took the criticism but youre right.

    • @arthur.vdv1425
      @arthur.vdv1425 Před rokem +5

      Agreed! He repeatedly plugged his own business throughout the business. It got so annoying and unprofessional.

    • @Lifty83
      @Lifty83 Před rokem +3

      How was it not honest? He was using his own (much smaller) business as the only real point of reference. While watching this I never felt like he was "plugging" his own business. To be honest, you haven't made an argument that this review wasn't honest, other than him comparing the build to the only thing he had personal knowledge of. Zach was pretty brutal but, I don't think most people can argue with his final assessment.

    • @goldpieceleo
      @goldpieceleo Před rokem +5

      This dude build gaming PC but doesn't show how it preforms while playing games.

    • @pouty3460
      @pouty3460 Před rokem

      lol someones butthurt it’s CZcams basically the internet get over it weirdo

  • @yungrezzno763
    @yungrezzno763 Před 2 lety +1

    I have the aresgame 500w 80 bronze , I didn’t know it was tier E, almost had it in my pc for a year and I haven’t had any problems with it

    • @XavierXXIV
      @XavierXXIV Před 2 lety +1

      That’s what I’m saying I have mines for a year too and I haven’t had any problems, I feel the tier list is just judging by the brand and the specs of it.

  • @TonyGamz
    @TonyGamz Před 10 měsíci

    I am planing on getting their second gen i5 pc soon cant wait itll be my first pc

    • @malaki4519
      @malaki4519 Před 4 měsíci

      Don’t buy from them. They’re overpriced and lied about how much they paid to build this

  • @Zetsua
    @Zetsua Před 2 lety

    I've had an Aresgames psu for a little over a year so far. I haven't had any problem I've overclocked quite a bit. Maybe in 4 years if it does explode I'll come back and comment lmao.

  • @Gage.Does.Tech.
    @Gage.Does.Tech. Před rokem

    Hey Zach. Very good video. They have lowered there prices I think cause of u!

  • @Loltrollface
    @Loltrollface Před 9 měsíci

    As of now, it is $600 total for this exact build. Its good to note that the price has gone down a bit.

  • @corty1980
    @corty1980 Před 2 lety

    Wow that price is expensive considering what you get and this is from someone in Australia where PC parts are higher. For a system using a Ryzen 5 5600G with a better power supply (Cooler master V550 SFX 80 Plus Gold Fully modular), 16gig of Vengance 3200Mhz ram, Asus TUF Gaming B550M-Plus AM4 micro ATX Motherboard, Crucial P2 CT500P2SSD8 500GB PCIe M.2 2280 SSD & Aerocool CS-107 Mini-Tower Case 3x Fixed RGB Fan it would cost me $865 from a local retailer, though this is for me to put it together myself.

  • @chadfontes6308
    @chadfontes6308 Před 9 měsíci

    "Fire Hazard" is insane.

  • @Faint-_-Flame
    @Faint-_-Flame Před rokem +4

    all he did was compare his deals vs theirs

  • @2528drevas
    @2528drevas Před 2 lety

    I've never had a problem with low to midrange gaming PC's using EVGA W series PSU's.

  • @Born2Legit
    @Born2Legit Před 2 lety +2

    Running a business is difficult lmao, let alone a computer business with prices of parts shifting constantly

  • @SmithBeatZ1
    @SmithBeatZ1 Před rokem +2

    I use them PSUs in a lot of my builds and customer builds. I don't think I'd trust that list if they're in the avoid category..

  • @27Zangle
    @27Zangle Před rokem

    Fragile sticker on every corner. Nice. However, as a courier, albeit about change jobs, I can attest that we don’t have time to take care of fragile boxes. They get shoved into wherever they fit with whatever force is needed to make them fit and often time get tossed in from several feet away. My coworkers are very much in the mode of this needs to get done or fall behind and never have time for a pee break. I personally try to take notice of fragile boxes and set them aside in a specific location during load out, even though the boss man has a tendency to get annoyed walk over and start tossing them in himself. His answer is, “it is in a box and protected, it is fine!”
    We have 2-3 minutes per stop. Never have time for our breaks or lunches. It is go go go the whole day.

  • @wiggo7523
    @wiggo7523 Před 2 lety +1

    The thing is that i dont need a windows key i can just get a free license in 5 minutes with some code and tricks just did that for my school pc that had a outgoing license

  • @TheNoobSparks
    @TheNoobSparks Před 3 měsíci

    just checked out the psu tier list for first time and my psu is tier A, nice.... i have a White Corsair RM (2021) 850watt.

  • @seanmcgee6766
    @seanmcgee6766 Před 2 lety +2

    Stirring some shit here big man

  • @Metalhead_Geek
    @Metalhead_Geek Před 2 lety +1

    I've been in the PC business since I was 13, rebuilding computers with windows 3.1.1 and windows 95, I have 2 digresses and 4 certifications. Mind you I also can build my own PSU as well using all the same grade parts as EVGA, SEASONIC and ECT. It doesn't mean it won't fault, BUT I love how he thinks he has an electrical engineering degree to know just how well a PSU is built and to what standards where I have my own PSU that I designed waiting UL and EnergyStar Approval. Might I also point out just how much USED parts you also use in your builds over the NEW parts they use in their builds. If I lived where you did I'm sure I could make you look like over priced too.

    • @HorrorQue
      @HorrorQue Před 2 lety

      Wow you want a cookie?

    • @TheSjuris
      @TheSjuris Před rokem

      did you market it as 80+ gold when you knew it wasnt even silver?

    • @Metalhead_Geek
      @Metalhead_Geek Před rokem

      @@TheSjuris it's UL and Energy Star approved and is rated 80+ Gold. I sold the design and it's being made by a big box brand under a sub company.

    • @TheSjuris
      @TheSjuris Před rokem

      @@Metalhead_Geek it was marketed as 80+ gold until it was tested properly and found to be 80+ bronze. False marketing and paid reviews 2 signs ot a bad company. Its 80 bronze right now.

  • @user-gm1me2ns4x
    @user-gm1me2ns4x Před 8 měsíci

    yo that powersuplly is ac good

  • @ShapdCrusadr
    @ShapdCrusadr Před rokem

    One piece of hardware you never want to cheap on is the power supply all go with a known brand name. You don't want a power supply blow up on you cause chances it will take out other hardware in the system.

  • @djispro4272
    @djispro4272 Před 2 lety +1

    My PSU is apparently Tier E, but on the Linus tech tips forum with my old hardware they told me it is fine

    • @Grievous-
      @Grievous- Před 2 lety

      It's not necessarily a bad PSU as the Tier list is based on price point, efficiency and overall performance, which doesn't mean there is any danger in using the PSU, just that the equation of price/efficiency/performance may not be very good.

    • @djispro4272
      @djispro4272 Před 2 lety

      @@Grievous- Aha. I actually got this PSU very cheap from my favorite online retailer buying it open box and compared to the 500w version it was a steal because it cost just a few dollars more. And I have trust in EVGA, so I did not put much thought into the PSU.

  • @lukebaker1016
    @lukebaker1016 Před rokem

    Is there a glass window that blocks where you can see the inside of the machine?

  • @jimmyjoejoyce
    @jimmyjoejoyce Před 2 lety

    Constructive criticism is always a good thing, nice video altogether

  • @supersteve76
    @supersteve76 Před 11 měsíci +1

    OR you can go to your local PC repair shop and look at what they have on sale. Mine currently has 1 with an i7 11th gen, 16gb, 1tb ssd, and a 3060 for $400!!! They also have an Xbox Series X with controller for $400!!!!

  • @StarfighterTV
    @StarfighterTV Před 2 lety

    I've used a few aresgame psus and tested them they aren't fire hazards, just because they are in e tier doesn't make them dangerous. If you are so concerned about them tear it down and actually test it before you just label it a fire hazard, the 650 watt aresgame in my gfs PC that I built her has lasted 2 years with an overclocked GTX 1080 and the i7 6700k. Your evaluation simply was not fair on the PSU.

  • @hjrgf
    @hjrgf Před rokem

    in my opinion its kinda more expensive i can get an intel 12th gen and a 30 series gpu (3060 or 3050) at my local pc shop for 600-900$ but since its online and they use a ton of shipping material i can see why

  • @daedalusrunner8423
    @daedalusrunner8423 Před rokem

    Honestly I actually expected worse. I am more surprised they used that pos psu because it comes paired with those cases....and I can attest they are pretty bad, but probably okay within the power limit of no GPU builds.

  • @edbeagle7929
    @edbeagle7929 Před 2 lety

    I say you and the toasty bros have a boxing match if they can not take the heat