How do I Install a French Drain? French Drain 101 - Everything You Need to Know!
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Following these tips will give you a French Drain that literally lasts forever (over 200 years).
Remember, you’ll want to use a non-woven geotextile fabric in 4 or 8oz. Don’t buy the cheaper landscape fabric if you want your french drain to last!
Remember to put your corrugated pipe at the bottom of the trench on the fabric. Then put the stone on top of your drain pipe. A common mistake among contractors and DIYers is they put the stone at the bottom of the trench.
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I live in the U.k. so plenty plenty water I just love watching folk that firstly know what they are doing but mostly I love watching folk that care and want to do it right sadly these days
not many folk like that around !! All they seem to want these days is the pay cheq the money for the least amount of work ..So well done Sir I can tell you are passionate
about what you do and thats why you will never be out of work Wish you were over the pond I really really do!! Its simple things like boards so the track machine does not
make a mess its cutting the sod so it fits Its using the right materials etc etc etc ITS MAKING SURE THE CUSTOMER IS HAPPY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I purchased the high octane 4” blue. Followed his directions on the burrito wrap with rounded stone. I had over 200’ to run. Took me two days and I am very pleased and water disappears very quickly. Also got the shipment very fast. I’m just saying thanks problem solved.
Two days to to complete 200feet is impressive.. took me 14 days all by hand
Did you run a single 200 ft line or a dbl line
Could you describe how you pinned or secured the burrito wrap so it would not unravel ie) How far apart did you pin it (every 12", 16", etc.), how much do you need to OVERLAP the burrito wrap (6" overlap or 12" overlap, etc.) and what device or component did you actually use to PIN the wrap? Thanks!
Watched most of your videos, and still learning new stuff!
@17:00 - Man that is GENIUS! Seriously, I've been able to understand why the pipe has holes, but describing it the way you did was really remarkable. The trench is filled with gravel, so there are voids. That's why it can flow (and flow downward because of its constant tilt ... but your description of the pipe was magnificent: The pipe is the BIGGEST VOID. The idea being you need a lot of void to get the water from the surrounding soil and from the surface into the trench, but you need even MORE void LATERALLY, the length of your drain, to keep the drainage moving. So you force a 6" diameter continuous void to "reside" inside the trench. Magnificent! Seriously, I was able to "feel" why it worked, but I could not really explain how it worked until now.
I wish you were in TEXAS! I had a guy come in and dig down 12 inches in our clay soil and fill with topsoil. Now I have a swimming pool with no outlet. He now wants a fortune to put in a french drain. I'm 70 and my husband is 80 and we are looking to do this ourselves. I'm exhausted just watching the video! I am convinced yours works.
The problem w/ clay soil is it will completely clog up filter fabric over time. A system like this will clog up and hold water. PVC would work better at moving water without holding it or clogging up but PVC is more difficult to install. You get what you pay for.
I placed an order yesterday to do a drain around my garage, cant wait to get it,thank u👍
I have watched several drain company CZcams presentations where they have absolutely no idea what they are doing. I have extensive knowledge as a builder and developer.
You know your subject all these others are a joke.
Good job
You add no value to the comment section, all you did is come on here bragging of your knowledge yet you did not share anything but jealousy, I am not an expert at any of this, but I find it very upsetting when so called expert like you find fault of other people with no real solution.
If you don't have anything positive to say, stay the fuck off the net, if you were all that good you would not be watching this. I am watching because I am trying to fix my water problem and I am not an expert.
@@MrNanah38 His comment was directed at other professional drainage companies who share videos of their work that is poorly done. When somebody is an expert in their trade, it pains them to see other so called experts give out false information and advice that wont solve people's problems and waste their time and money. His comment was definitely not directed at DIYers like yourself trying to learn how to fix their own water issues and is reassuring to some people that they have come to the right place to learn about the topic.
These videos make me want a French drain even if I didn’t need it! 😂
I've watched most of your videos. Trying to learn as much as I can and when I happen upon someone else's videos I say to myself that's not how the french drain man would do it. lol.
Same here.
Lol
Thank you for this video! It takes a good person to give everybody this!!
I used the half corregated half solid on the bottom pipe and it catches the water and then flows wonderful.
Have a great day!
Excellent, well made video thank you for sharing!!! sheers from California!!!
Nice explanation on the mesh. No overlap.
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So glad i found this channel. Im getting ready to DIY a system in my backyard and was close to using the low quality materials offered from lowes or homedepot. After watching these vids and going to there site for only a few hundred dollars more i can have higher quality materials shipped straight to the house. I will be placing an order soon.
great job on this one plus way to finish off the video with detail on how that pop up will work, Thanks
This is excellent video and the whole process is well explained. Thanks French Drain Man.
Would you consider making a video that shows how you wrap your tees, wyes, and drainage basins?
Richmond, VA here.
Being a commercial driver does not help; being away from home as I am but, I need to get this done on my front and back yards.
Will hire a crew to get this done.
So much information, I love it! Thanks for making these videos.
Back in my day we didn't have any fancy dancy blue yellow or green or black perf pipe, We dug ditching With our bare hands Rapped river rock in burlap sacks Put chip rock over the top of that Then Hay grass good old cowsoils then Is the sweetest blue Kentucky grass on top, And we never called them French Drains they were All-American Irrigation engineered. By hand I tell you By Hand. 💪😉
These drains were popularized by an American.. Henry Flagg French (1813-1885) of Concord, Massachusetts, a lawyer and Assistant U.S. Treasury Secretary described them in Farm Drainage (1859). From Wikipedia... the idea may be from France but the guy was Mr French. 👌
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@@Stahodad Thats a cool piec of info to know. Was he big fond of frys as well?😁
Hey I subscribed today after viewing your videos. Another reason is that you have excellent detailed description on your professional install. Your a professional with a plan.
Thanks so much. This video was exactly what I was looking for.
Digging in the winter, always fun. Also I’m stealing the term “sweat equity”! Thanks for all the information!!
Do have any people near this way? I've seen your work and it's great and just what I need here.
Call 248-505-3065 for a contractor near you.
I wish I could have you guys here in Adkins TX! Or somebody with your detail oriented work.
You're the only ones!!!
Try that in my yard in northwest CT. I can barely stick a tent stake in my yard. Damn rocks everywhere.
Very good overview. Thank you.
Why discharge downspout drain via pop-up behind patio steps? Why not run on out to end of line?
So I’ve been watching for many weeks now and just heard FD vs YD. I only have sitting surface water after a solid rain. Solid St Louis clay soil. Now I’m at square one.
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A cool experiment would be to set two pipes together in a trench, feed them each with water colored differently (food coloring) and show how much mixing / cross-communication happens between the two pipes
I take it you need to lay the pipe with a gradually fall so the water flows in the right direction?
that weather though. brrrrrr!
He said "metharrrodical" lololol.
Gr8 vid
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I was hoping I might get your advice an something . Where I live must have a high water table, everyone has sumo pumps under there house . And just about everyone gets mold on the HVAC duct work under the house. We are trying to figure out the best way to prevent this from happening again , before we change out the duct work.
My thinking is,
1 - regrade the yard to lesson the water from flowing towards the house.
2-Dig down to the bottom of the foundation wall and seal the out side( since there are several places under the house you can see water coming in )
3. Install a French drain (like yours in this video)on the out side of home
4 -install drains on all the gutter extending them further away from home
5- Install a drain underneath the house to force the water down to sump pump .
But , that takes time and money . But I’m guessing that would be the best thing ? ???
Am I correct ?
I just dug a trench under the house to apply termite killer , and thought , humm while I have this already dug , should I go ahead and install a drain to force water to pump! And then hopefully in spring do some things on the out side.
I guess my question is, if I do the drain under the house now, will I just create more of a flow twords the house ? . A gravity pull effect I guess ? Since I have to do the work my self .. I want to make sure I’m doing it right . And I’ve called a few pros and can’t get a straight answer.
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Baughman materials is way overpriced your standard black corrugated perforated last for ever. We have used for over 30 yrs and u can still dig it up an no problems. U must be getting a kickback for selling there over priced pipe just saying
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I just had a quote by someone here in the Chicago suburbs. "(1) 80’ SOLID 4” PVC FOR (1) SUMP
DISCHARGE + (1) GUTTER BURIED TO LEFT SIDE YARD and (1) 12” X 12” CATCH BOX. More details: Lay down plastic to protect the yard. Cut grass with a sod cutter or manually by hand. Dig trench (8" - 12") pitched to discharge location. Install 4" Air-Gap followed by 4" solid PVC pipe. Backfill and tamp down as required. Replace sod and haul away excess soils." I brought up a couple of concerns with the guy. First, I said that I concerned with the Chicago frost. I wanted to know if a dual-wall corrugated pipe would be better? He said the Chicago winter isn't bad enough to hurt the PVC. He also said that they would be using 10' pipes and using glue. He also is claiming that going in between a couple of trees isn't a problem. The price was not horrible. $20per foot. I'm hoping you have a few moments to help me analyze the situation: 1. Do you have any thoughts on Chicago winter compared to your winters in Michigan that you stress so much in your videos (thank you so much for these by the way)? Also, the PVC connections are the most worrisome thing for me. One tree is large...very big and mature. The other tree is small...growing. From your perspective. 2. What is the relative jump in cost, if any, going from 4" PVC to quality dual-wall CP? 3. Can you speculate on why the contractor is hesitant to use dual-wall CP? 4. Do you know of any contacts in Chicago that do the job the way you do it? Thanks!
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He probably has a system set up for PVC and is hesitant because he gets discounts from his supplier for buying PVC in bulk. It really depends on his setup, in his mind dual wall is probably overkill. If you want to know about climate comparisons, look up plant zone map, it's divided by temperature zones. Northern Illinois is colder than Southern Michigan. www.arborday.org/media/zones.cfm
What will happen to the downspout via a pop-up window in late fall or winter? I live in Quebec, it rains several times in winter. The next day it can be -15, the pop-up will freeze, break or become blocked by ice.
Awaaa Man, hoping you were in Texas 😢
Michigan 🤷♂️
How close can the trench of the french drain be from the foundation of the house?
I will make you a video Stay Tuned!!
@@FRENCHDRAINMAN OHH I need this video too!!! We get flooding under the house and the builder just paints the brick foundation with tar... French line is right up against the foundation, no gap at all and I wonder if the french drain should be deeper than the foundation? Thanks from Australia! :)
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Been a drainage watching junkie the last few months.. How do you measure Pitch for your project? Do you use a transit? String line? 1/8” per foot?
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So great to have this info. I've installed something similar in tight spaces, worked like a charm. Downloaded Farm Drainage by Henry French (1858) where he suggests the earlier version of this. I have two questions, though: 1) I was told they don't work in MN because they'll freeze, is this true, and therefore an issue?, and 2) I don't have anywhere to connect the outlet, just wanted to move any rain water away from the foundation (yard slopes toward house) - will this work as a sort of seep well to gather water and let it soak in further from the house? Soil is sandy loam, so that's maybe better for drainage in general. Thanks!!
If they're built correctly, they should not hold any water, so they will not freeze. If they're built incorrectly, they're going to hold water and they will freeze.
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Hi, been watching your vids for a bit now and really great. I just want to ask though what determines between one drain pipe or two please. I am building a house in Poland and we have sourced a spring about a meter back from the house - not ideal but fresh water on the land a plus for sure. What this spring be the determining factor in two pipes? Look forward to hearing from you. Jason
@simplecountrylife1980
Springs are tricky and move all around. They hop around, and you will end up having to add to the system, guaranteed. You might want to consider a 6-inch trunk line, and you just keep adding 4-inch feeder pipes to it. And if you don't feel you have that much water, then do all 4-inch. A 4-inch pipe will move 180 gallons per minute; a 6-inch pipe is about double that.
Increíble. Excelente trabajo. Gracias por compartir.
Wish you guys can come out to Virginia Beach and do ours for us!
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One of the best videos out there for the diy'er.. The trench is 18" wide by 12" deep correct?
That will work great!
We do 14"x14" for 2 pipes on the bottom.
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What should I do if I don't have sod to cut back? In the process of redoing lawn so all I'll have is dirt for the top layer to then seed and straw. Is that okay?
Great video and informative and never got bored. My neighbor has a leak they won’t fix and the city won’t help. My question is I have a 3” pipe that runs under the area I need fixed and it goes to the street though the curb and is used for pool deck and backyard drainage and other than drains in the backyard the pipe is closed . How would I tie into it to take the water away from the side of my house? Do you have a video on that? Again great job!!!
How does water travel though? Do you provide a slope?
How does this pipe do when you need to put a snake through it? I have tons of trees
I am planning a DIY french drain in my back yard/swamp. I have gained a lot by watching your videos, but I have two questions.
1. What is the size of the trench you are digging? I'm planning a quad pack if that makes a difference.
2. What do I do with the dirt I remove? Are there people that might want it? Not sure where it should go.
Thanks for your helpful videos and commitment to quality work.
@Mike
Quad trench 16×16
@@FRENCHDRAINMAN Thank you. Any info on how to dispose of the excess dirt? Not sure where to look for that.
Thanks for these videos and helping out us DIY’ers! 👍🏼 can the high octane pipe be ran into a drywell? My backyard is surrounded on three sides by farm field and I don’t have anywhere to go with the water. Thanks!
Thanks for all the videos. Can i place 3 pipes in a French drain to save on the 40mm stones
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So when you are ready to discharge your water you say to only connect one of the bottom pipes to the pop up emitter and the other pipes you would leave open? Or would you cap them the same way you started the run? Thanks for your videos and help!
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Do you know anyone that does this type of excellent work in Georgia??
Call our main office 248-505-3065 they will know
Can you go underneath the ceders? Or should I go where the fence door opens?
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How many yards of stone would you get for a project like this
1 yard every 30ft
I've watched several of your videos and I am now grasping the concepts. Thank you. Question - can you build a French drain directly next to a house? Can you dig the trench next to the foundation? Because what's happening is the water is coming off a hill and hitting the side of the house and the side of the house has become the drain. So I wanted to know if I can dig right beside the house since that's where the water is going naturally
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Which stores usually sell 1.5 inch round rock for French drains? I live in Dallas and by googling it I don’t see any stores that sell them
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A couple of questions without wading through all the comments...
First, does a french drain have to be sloped?
Secondly, we have ditches for our drainage, not storm drains. It's maybe 100 feet from my down spout on the house to the ditch...
Can I connect my down spout directly to the perforated pipe, or do I need to run that third solid walled pipe and lay it on the perforated pipe...
Lastly, can I just run the single perforated pipe instead of two. Thanks.
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All the answers are here
I'd like to learn more about the slope setting process. What is the closest to the surface your pipe can be. Is there a minimum depth? I'm trying to figure out how to manage the 1% slope over a 130ft distance that is pretty flat.
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Just put 2 High Octane Flat moves the same amount of water as 1 pipe with 1% slope. The reason why so many guys preach slope is because they don't use Non woven Geotextile Double Punched Fabric and need slope to push the dirt and debris out of the pipe.
@@FRENCHDRAINMAN so does no slope just mean the pressure of the water entering the pipe will move water? What should I do if I have to come up from under ground to pop it up into this concrete culvert? Made this video last year: czcams.com/video/FKxvRsDYaBo/video.html
Why cover the trench with sod? Would this not limit the amount of water absorption? Most water will run right over the top. We always left the trench slightly open and let runners cover it up the rest of the way, this way no dirt is being placed back on top.
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Did you try to show how to connect two of those blue pipes together or that wasn't needed?
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Quick question..if there ever was such a thing. My back yard does not have enough slope from where I want the drain to begin to where I want the outflow of water to be. I need to increase the slope by having the beginning of the drain higher than then the outflow. And, I only need the drainage area to be about 40 feet of perforated pipe; the burrito. This area will need to be ground level with the 40 feet of fabric exposed to make the drain area a slightly higher elevation. The remaining 100 feet or so of the drain will only be solid pipe that is a little deeper every 10 feet or so to create a slope to force the water to flow to the outflow. I can't dig the outflow area deep enough to actually bury that 40 feet of drain area because the water would simply pool up and not flow. So, does this idea of 40 feet feet of drain area to 100 feet of solid drain with a gradual slope (outflow lower than the drain area of course) sound like it will or should work? Awesome videos!
I have a big puddle on the edge of my driveway. Can I put a French drain next to it? What do I use for a cover or screen to stop crap from getting in? Do I need to put a catch basin there? How far must the pipe run be at a minimum? Do I need to cap the other end off? The discharge end will be underground because I won't have slope otherwise. Thanks for the information.
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What about slope of the pipe ?
Gosh I need help with my new house drainage so bad
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My backyard looks like a river and the person that came made like a little Trench that goes out to the street and it rained today and my backyard is still full of water.. the problem is I live in Atmore Alabama and you're near Detroit or somewhere near there from your videos
Hope you found the right contractor to fix that problem.
I wish you were in NC.
The high octane pipe seems to be promoted 1000+ times in the video. All the sudden Francisco drops a solid pipe from a gutter, why the gutter uses a solid type vs a high octane?
Clean Out assembly
Why not tie the down spouting into the perforated pipe?
Is there a minimum amount of stone you would recommend putting on top of a French?
I ask because I’m getting ready to trench a long run, and I would like to start the trench shallow as possible in order to maintain the necessary 1% pitch. Last thing I wanna do is start deep and then get so deep at the other end of the trench that I have trouble bringing it to daylight
We'll start 7 inches deep if we're going to do what you describe. Start 7 to 10 inches deep.
Would you still use the non woven geotextile fabric with red clay soil type ? Doing an install on the west coast .
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Great drain and it will work well but the grass on top of the drain needs 4” of soil or it will die. So great drain but the grass will die. Problem with French drains is it requires to much soil for grass to grow and then the drain doesn’t work. French drains work best when left open.
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We have been building like this for that reason. Thank you for commenting.
My home is on a slab and I'm putting an OPEN french drain on the back side of the home. Should the French drain be right up against the back of the house OR should there be some space between the back of the home's foundation and my drain?
If no basement you can go right up to the house.
Do I need to do both. French drain and downspouts. Or can I just do downspouts out to the road. My yard can’t drain out the water fast enough due to the amount of rain coming from the downspouts. So I’m thinking that if I run pipe from the house to the street that would fix the problem. I just don’t want to have to go back and put a French drain in if it doesn’t fix the issue I have with the water pudding up in the back and sides of the house. What do you think would be the best approach. I live in Houston Tx. I wish I had someone like you out here doing French drains.
I have the same issue. I wish he responded to your comment. Ughhh
The hardest part of this job is digging the trench. Better off to just do separate pipes in the same trench while you have everything opened up. I would use solid pipe for the downspouts.
Putting several pipes in the hole with plugs on the ends is more efficient than using one drain pipe with just stone? How do the orher.pipes provide more flow than just stone? Interesting idea.. which method is cheaper?
So a couple other questions. Could the trench be smaller like the size a trencher would cut? And could smaller stone be used like gravel if you have the sock over the high octane
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Can i put sod on top of the stones if they are not wrapped in fabric?
Yes
Hi, thanks, what is the approximate cost of a project like this?
If you put in two 4" high octane pipes why not just put in one 6"? Also, as a homeowner, do you have a video of how you tap into a storm drain? I want to hire it out but want to make sure the person does it right. I already spoke to the Oakland County Drain Commission and they said I could tap into the storm drain so I just need to find a qualified person to do it. Also, LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!!!
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Make sure you have that in writing, last thing you need is someone else from the city haggling after youre chiseling a hole in the drain. If you have reason to need a 6" go for it. Its a bit pricier but if youre going to do it once, do it right!
How deep do you recommend burying 4 inch black corrugated pipe in an area that will be driven over with a zero turn and occasionally with a 4000 pound tractor?
I like to pack 1/2" crushed stone around the pipe for best results. 16"x18" wide
So I know you said the fabric is good to let grass roots through but I was just reading that the tall fescue I just planted has 2-3 foot roots 😬 will that still be ok
Definitely reason to be considered. In the North bluegrass is what we are always dealing with. The fescue shade variety is a different animal than the tall fescue.
1. We use 1 1/2" cobblestone which has huge voids. The air pockets are to great for roots to survive.
2. NEVER use peastone or 3/4" stone because it's always damp and roots love it.
3. Build a Quad Pack French Drain it has so much void roots can't grow in a air space they because dust, dry out and fall off. This is known as air pruning.
Thanks for the great content. I plan to follow your model to install a FD between my new home and my neighbor's in order to mitigate basement seepage issues. I have looked around and the blue corrugated pipe you use does not appear to be at any local stores. In your advice, is the only drawback of the ADS pipe it's longevity? Or does it not perform adequately before it breaks down? Second: If you burrito wrap the pipe and use clean stone, doesn't that keep out any debris that would clog the system?
In the center of a gravel driveway, will this high octane pipe not be crushed in the bottom of an 18" deep by 1' trench with fabric and filled solid with gravel and then wrapped (last 6" would be unwrapped gravel to match the new driveway)?
We use the 6 inch in driveways it's even stronger yet
when should hard drainage pipe with holes be used instead of corrugated?
Can I buy everything I need from you? I have a 130’ run. I don’t know how many blind inlets I need or what else I need.
Thank you
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With these systems, how big of an emphasis is the slope of the trench?
We build flat all the time. They move water. If slope is there take it but if not I have videos on a flat yard no slope.
I live in nj bergen county can you install French drain for around my house or basement which is better for house
You want both.
How do you know of you need a single pipe or a double pipe like shown in this video?
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Do you tamp down the dirt in the bottom of French drain trenches?
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Hi I’m a first timer doin a French drain👍 my back yards gtn flooded can I zig zag over the lawn to one run off? Thanks
We usually run a main and branch off to low areas. Zig zag might work for you. We do Consultations $500.00 a yard 248-505-3065 to design your system.
Do you have to go to a city drain for a French drain system sadly my drain is at the end of my street so across multiple neighbor's properties can I add catch basins or what would be the solution if your not going to the drain at the end of the street
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How long geotextile degrade and need to be replaced?
Is this blue pipe really stronger than PVC schedule 40 ? Can vehicles or farm tractors drive over without crushing it? Thats hard to believe but if so, im gonna buy a few pipes this weekend. Plz confirm. Thanks
There is a video on this channel where FDM rolls the front wheels of his truck over the pipe, gets out of the truck and points the camera at the pipe with the truck on it and talks for a few minutes. The pipe was fine.
@@misha6162 +1 I can't find the video you're talking about, trying to find it. It's there somewhere.
I wonder do we need The fabric here in North Carolina near Charlotte Hoping I can put perforated pipe and rock without Fabric
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