Why Corrugated Pipe is Better than PVC Pipe for Yard Drainage

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    I've been wanting to do this for quite some time. I want to show you how corrugated pipe, that single wall is self-cleaning. I want to explain it and I want to show you it's something that you really need a visual. So this is Baughman, single wall, four-inch corrugated square. You can see how it's kind of squared here. That's for strength. This pipe is incredibly strong and the inside is rounded really nice. I'm going to show you how this pipe is self-cleaning, how it was designed to work. And here's the Baughman High-octane. It's rounded on the inside, squared on the outside for strength. Man, look at those inlets. This pipe is just incredible.
    So here's a clear piece of four-inch corrugated pipe. What I'm going to do is I'm going to run water through it and I'm gonna show you guys how the turbulence that's created because of the ribs, the rounded ribs, this pipe is self-cleaning. I'll start by putting pine cones through it, tree bark, all kinds of stuff.
    Now when I talk about turbulence, like this bucket of water, those waves, that's not the turbulence, that's no turbulence. The turbulence is a true mixing and this mixing, this turbulence that occurs when the water's running, that's what makes the debris, just collects the debris, suspends it in the liquid and carries it out to the discharge end of whatever kind of system you have. Whether it's for downspouts, whether it's for yard drainage and you're using the High-octane. This rounded interior creates this self-cleaning turbulence and I can't wait to get the water flowing and show you.
    I deliberately set this up to where the discharge and is in a pothole. You can see the water, you can see all the turbulence. Look at that, look at that action, That's going to remove any sediment. But I did deliberately put a belly in at the end of a 50-foot run. Most downspouts don't have a 50-foot run, but I wanted to use a 50-foot piece of corrugated clear four-inch pipe just so that we could see it in probably the worst-case scenario. [...]
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  • @FRENCHDRAINMAN
    @FRENCHDRAINMAN  Před rokem +1

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  • @jvcyt298
    @jvcyt298 Před 2 lety +55

    It's pretty straightforward, for corrugated pipe, the trench has to be damn near perfect, and if for any reason it clogs, your digging it up, but for PVC pipe, it lays down and keeps pitch easy, bellies are rare, and cleaning is easy too.

  • @veenified
    @veenified Před 3 lety +335

    How is throwing a bunch of floating debris an accurate representation of the pipes "self-cleaning" capability? I want to see a test with dirt, sand, and sediment.

    • @JourneyOnLife
      @JourneyOnLife Před 2 lety +16

      Try those helicopter tree seeds. Or a longish stick. Eventually something is gonna start a huge jam.

    • @parallaxical3067
      @parallaxical3067 Před 2 lety +47

      Sediment can build up, when the in flow is slow. And then harden in place, starting the build up process. If the currogated design was better, they would use it in waste water applications.

    • @christophergray7454
      @christophergray7454 Před 2 lety +8

      turbulence man, turbulence!

    • @LittleJerrySeinfeld
      @LittleJerrySeinfeld Před 2 lety +29

      Sand, silt, mud, roof shingle silt will collect in corrugated

    • @walleyeye
      @walleyeye Před rokem +6

      First thing I thought when I saw this is its all floating debris being put in there.
      I’m not for or against pvc or corrugated pipe but i cant help but wonder how a buildup of mud and sand or clay would fair.

  • @frazicl
    @frazicl Před rokem +2

    I’ve now watch several of your videos for no apparent reason other than how interesting you make French drains and corrugated pipe. Never in my life would you could’ve convinced me I’d be getting hyped on French drains. So much so that I’ve been surveying my yard looking for a French drain project. No, im not lying!! Thank you for the education and the enthusiasm!

  • @FRENCHDRAINMAN
    @FRENCHDRAINMAN  Před 3 lety +2

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    • @juanrgarcia5837
      @juanrgarcia5837 Před 3 lety +2

      I did learned a lot whit your videos and tutorials, but i disagree whit you...been working whit landscape companies for 28 years and every corrugated pipes failed!!!

  • @onomatopoeia2223
    @onomatopoeia2223 Před 3 lety +37

    Take a drink every time he says " turbulence " . 🤪

  • @narendranbhaskar
    @narendranbhaskar Před 3 lety +96

    Why don't you compare this to PVC. Does stuff get stuck in PVC? What happens if you reduce flow rate? Or increase it? Is there a cost factor? A single data point means nothing.

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    • @RaspyOB174
      @RaspyOB174 Před 3 lety +10

      This clear is not the kind of pipe that is installed. Ever. It's usually single wall corrugated or PVC. Don't use the single wall cheapy corrugated. I've been pulling out and replacing those for years. they crack and get filled with roots etc... Get a nice double wall smooth interior corrugated or use bell end PVC or even just piece together regular PVC fittings. If you're going to dig the trench then put in the good stuff. The baughman stuff is probably great for [F]Trench Drains and the blue thick baughman not perforated is better than the cheapy black corrugated and yellow baughman equivalent . But nothing compares to the flow of a smooth wall interior pipe. The flow rate in this video is torrential downpour flow rates. Most rains will not give this flow rate.

    • @narendranbhaskar
      @narendranbhaskar Před 3 lety +21

      @@FRENCHDRAINMAN Yes but even that video is not really a comparison. You show us a beat up PVC and then throw two pipes in a lake. I understand one is heavier, sure, but if the ground is not stable even the corrugated will bow. There are so many youtube videos with people just praising what they use and bashing the competition. Nothing like the 'Project Farm' channel. Sad.

    • @jgallone
      @jgallone Před 2 lety +6

      @@narendranbhaskar Shout out to the Project Farm channel. Great, unbiased, thoughtful reviews.

    • @randomaxe662
      @randomaxe662 Před rokem

      @@RaspyOB174 He never EVER said use it - the clear pipe was for demonstration - he only recommends their own blue or yellow corrugated.

  • @JustEnjoyingLife73
    @JustEnjoyingLife73 Před rokem +46

    The clear pipe is of a different design. What you should try next is to cut open an actual corrugated drainage pipe, like cut it in half lengthwise so that we can see how it handles sand, dirt and shingle debris and run it next to a PVC pipe also cut in half. This way you can show whether one is superior to the other. You also should show varying degrees of flow including one that is much slower. I think corrugated is used simply because it is cheaper, otherwise you'd see it in plumbing if it was superior.

    • @Boobtube.
      @Boobtube. Před rokem +2

      exactly, this is not apples to apples. The clear pipe had no inlet slots also. The slots might lesson the turbulence.

    • @CrapE_DM
      @CrapE_DM Před rokem +9

      Right, the debris used here isn't even small enough to settle in the grooves. We need DIRT

    • @EthanPDobbins
      @EthanPDobbins Před 10 měsíci

      Yep if having a bunch of friction points in your pipe helped clean it then my turds would be flowing down corrugated when i flush instead of smooth pipe. Pvc is easier to install to the correct slope without getting a "belly" to collect stuff, doesn't have the friction points to slow down the water & help it clog, and is stronger. It also allows for installing cleanouts. Corrugated pipe is designed ONLY to work good enough and be cheap. Using less material to have a strong enough pipe is the whole reason that corrugation was invented to begin with.

    • @jamesbarber5820
      @jamesbarber5820 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Completely agree I have both in my yard. I told the builder I DID NOT want corrugated. I purchased all the PVC myself. We have a TON of sand and clay and sure enough the two corrugated pipes are filled with sand. The PVCs are draining like a water hose at the end. We had to replace the corrugated and it has now been about 8 months and now all are still draining as planned even the other 2 original PVC that are now close to 2 years old. Plus I can easily push my water hose up if I see any signs of clogging... which has yet to occur... Knock on wood. Slow movement or light rain is a killer to the corrugated... it just continues to pile up slowly, the clay and sand became very hard and its just a matter of time for it to build a swell and block more sediment.

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  • @jamesedwards6269
    @jamesedwards6269 Před 3 lety +17

    One of the reason the stuff is not staying in the pipe is because the velocity of the of the fluid in the pipe is above the scour rate. The scout rate is typically more than 2’ per second the velocity of the water that was flowing through the pipe is well in excess of 2’ per second.

  • @cmsheth09
    @cmsheth09 Před 3 lety +100

    Needed a side by side with pvc to be honest

    • @redaizo
      @redaizo Před 3 lety +32

      gate city foundation drainage - channel has one

    • @woxie4990
      @woxie4990 Před 3 lety +6

      Bingo! ... my thoughts exactly!

    • @2blkSSs
      @2blkSSs Před 3 lety +6

      @@redaizo hahaha omg as soon as I clicked on this video I thought about him

    • @ceebrown8157
      @ceebrown8157 Před rokem

      @@redaizo thanks

  • @stonelark
    @stonelark Před 3 lety +52

    A bunch of little roots penetrated my corrugated drain pipes so they clogged up. Just replaced with PVC. I like it because its a lot stronger, but you do have to slope it right.

    • @Zerububble
      @Zerububble Před 3 lety +1

      Perforated corrugated or solid corrugated?

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    • @supermegadong7597
      @supermegadong7597 Před 2 lety

      As someone who has worked with corrugated pipe for a few years I have to say you are dead wrong. It tears right open with a shovel and you forgot one simple landscape rule. The ground moves slowly over time at least in California where I live with constant mini quakes. Pvc will stay straight no matter what but it’s near impossible to make corrugated pipe to stay straight for years on end. With foot traffic on one part of the lawn but not on the other it can smash the dirt down on that one spot over time creating a belly which happens to almost every lawn

  • @pneal77
    @pneal77 Před 3 lety +7

    Best case scenario. Slow flow won't generate the same amount of turbulence. That turbulence is needed to overcome the internal crenellations. The rounded edges are designed to overcome the inherent draw back to the design of single wall corrugated pipe.
    Yes install matters, especially with corrugated pipe, but pvc pipes help overcome install issues as they've more rigid and don't suffer bellying or collapse.
    Corrugated is cheaper, quicker to install and more flexible but that's where the advantages end. If you want a lower maintenance, more robust, longer lasting drainage system you go with pvc.

  • @bebekguitar2007
    @bebekguitar2007 Před 3 lety +11

    yes, I will work hard to do it right the first time by installing PVC :)

  • @avk1221
    @avk1221 Před 3 lety +29

    Okay guys, take a shot everytime the man says "turbulence"

    • @efaleihcrop
      @efaleihcrop Před 3 lety +2

      Shit I'm drunk

    • @benb7727
      @benb7727 Před 3 lety +3

      I was looking for this comment.

    • @bc057
      @bc057 Před 3 lety

      @@benb7727 me too. I was looking for him to explain how ridges would create self cleaning turbulence that performs better than straight solid PVC pipe. And he only shows "look at this turbulence" and I only see water stream that normally coming out from a water hose

  • @timcastle165
    @timcastle165 Před 3 lety +11

    I would love to see the sand video, that would be like the roof shingle material that wears off. I’m getting ready to put in drain popups so I’m interested in the part! Great video!!

    • @HRTsAFyre
      @HRTsAFyre Před 3 lety

      My roof debris clogs my yard drains badly. They used PVC pipe.

    • @ryerob741
      @ryerob741 Před 3 lety

      the way to go...is to install vented 2"x3"x4" Y adapter right where downspout reaches the ground or foundation then use solid corrugated (the good USA made) 4" into distribution box (12" or 15") running 2 down spouts/corrugated pipes into D. Box and 1 out going corrugated 4" from D. Box to a catch basin/well with (clean out and vented) out away from the Home's foundation to the lowest well draining lawn surface point in your yard... and you can have multiple D. Boxes running to the catch/basin or lets say multiple basins (front yard/back yard) using all "solid" (Baughman pipe for example) well made 4" corrugated pipe...I mean the good stuff, not the China BS material! I'm a landscape contractor of over 35 years and have replaced numerous "crazily" designed drains from roof water run off to bad landscape surface drains and drainage....roof water run off is no time to use cheap pipe or slotted pipe and PVC is just to hard to place with perfect pitch and all the underground obstacles...there are instances for using PVC in drains, but just not necessary in this case...good quality pipe = no crush problems and running 2 spouts into 1 box gives tremendous flush power when using the aforementioned vented Y's at down spout ends.... in the end you will have multiple clean out/flush out points and a high volume fast flowing redirection of all roof runoff water.

  • @agomez5278
    @agomez5278 Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you for the insight.

  • @chadtoms5338
    @chadtoms5338 Před 4 lety +2

    Love the Tigers bucket!

  • @JPumpkinKing
    @JPumpkinKing Před 3 lety +41

    🤦🏼‍♂️ That debris isn’t getting stuck because IT FLOATS! Try adding some fine dirt or roof shingle particles to the water. See how much comes out and how much stays in the grooves.

    • @irakozak1
      @irakozak1 Před 2 lety

      Isn’t that why we use #6 gravel under around and on top of the pipe?
      The stones hold the pipe down

    • @randomaxe662
      @randomaxe662 Před rokem +1

      @@irakozak1 He said the kind of debris INSIDE the pipe (in the video) is lightweight and floats, unlike shingle gravel. He wasn't saying the pipe would float away, as that would be installed underground.

  • @ivanthomas1299
    @ivanthomas1299 Před 3 lety +1

    Beautiful!

  • @cgolden2640
    @cgolden2640 Před 4 lety +4

    I like the info in all your videos. In an area where we aren’t concerned about frost heaves and really cold temps, but are more concerned with mud, shingle debris, and build up, would you say that pvc (not sched 40) is ok for the application?

  • @123Goldhunter11
    @123Goldhunter11 Před 4 lety +5

    Keeping the trench at a constant slope is key. The old timers used a 1x6 in the center of the ditch to run their pipe along. PVC is ridged and easier to keep to a consistent grade but I usually use corrugated. I always run the high end up to the surface so I can use a hose. The last 10 should be tight line so you can cap it and fill the ditch with water to flush out. It's like developing a water well screen. The fines must go into the pipe and get flushed out. The more fines you remove the bigger the collection are around the pipe.

    • @GregoryGuay
      @GregoryGuay Před 4 lety +1

      Gold Hunter What’s the minimal slope for a 50 foot run? Pretty flat in coastal Charleston, South Carolina.

  • @TheOnlySgtRock
    @TheOnlySgtRock Před 4 lety +1

    Great visual.

  • @sardomnumspa
    @sardomnumspa Před 4 lety +69

    You should have had a piece of PVC beside it to show that stuff would stay in it...

    • @epoc162
      @epoc162 Před 3 lety +2

      If. I don’t have any corrugated in my yard and never had an issue. Wouldn’t say pvc is better in terms of clogging but it’s certainly not worse. PVC does seem to last far longer though from what I have seen.

    • @j.d.1488
      @j.d.1488 Před 2 lety +2

      Liquids and debris fly down PVC.

  • @functionalvanconversion4284

    Great insight! I'll keep this in the bank for the next problem prevention

  • @cagrangersealninja3720
    @cagrangersealninja3720 Před 4 lety +5

    I like the D-troit logo on the bucket. Grew up in Shelby twp and graduated in 94 from Ike. Great demo

  • @silveravnt
    @silveravnt Před 2 lety +8

    It would be cool and informative to have a comparison with clear straight pipe. See how quickly each pipe can empty an IBC tote.

  • @nyctoya
    @nyctoya Před 3 lety +14

    That clear dryer vent hose is not the same as the black square corrugated pipe you had in your hand. Nor is it the same as the high octane you showed when you have roots growing into it. You can't blame "bad installation" on the roots growing through the inlets of the high octane. Why didn't you use the black pipe or the high octane pipe. That clear hose is obviously smoother than the black or blue pipe.

  • @davidschmucker5208
    @davidschmucker5208 Před 4 lety +125

    But what about for slow flow situations, such as seepage from a subterranean curtain/french drain? Wouldn't it be possible for sediment to catch and slowly build up and bind up, eventually clogging the pipe?

    • @chriswf
      @chriswf Před 3 lety +4

      This is EXACTLY what I'm wondering. So I was going to install a french drain in my crawl space. The flow is often slow. But I've seen it puddle a little under there.
      I'm curious to know if I should use this, or a smooth pvc pipe with holes drilled in it or whatever..

    • @epoc162
      @epoc162 Před 3 lety +7

      Only time I might use corrugated would be for a down spout, never for a low flow situation.

    • @randomnotes4258
      @randomnotes4258 Před 2 lety

      @@dannainan7732 my french drains with pvc are fully clogged?

  • @zuneluminox
    @zuneluminox Před 2 lety

    I sorta stumbled into this PVC vs Corrugated beef and am now fascinated by it

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      @FRENCHDRAINMAN  Před 2 lety

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  • @Ckom-Tunes
    @Ckom-Tunes Před 2 lety +1

    Good job man!

  • @mcmigs1725
    @mcmigs1725 Před 3 lety +1

    The outter corrugation also helps prevents soil particles from migrating which can lead to settlement.

  • @tonesgaming1012
    @tonesgaming1012 Před 4 lety +3

    You know what's better than a French drain system aesthetically. A rain garden.

    • @harveydodd8803
      @harveydodd8803 Před 3 lety

      Would be nice but if you don’t have the right soil for it, it’s not an option for many.

  • @robertgregory2618
    @robertgregory2618 Před 3 lety +31

    You have a lot of drop in your demo. If it is used in standard situation of say a quarter inch per foot drop, it would not be so turbulent thus dirt and sand would in my pinion would fall into the slots and eventually inhibit the flow.

    • @theemperor7500
      @theemperor7500 Před 2 lety

      Ive opened up corrugated decades old and its clean inside, it works. I hate the stuff because it breaks years and years later though

  • @terrybyrd5105
    @terrybyrd5105 Před 4 lety +32

    In a properly designed sub surface drain system, the flow rate would rarely be greater than a trickle; meaning the flow rate would be too slow to create turbulence needed to carry trash down stream - but then trash shouldn't be an issue if the system were properly constructed. Try again with smooth wall.

    • @1goblingreen404
      @1goblingreen404 Před 4 lety +14

      Agreed. I don't see much value in this experiment. Especially absent the same demonstration with smooth wall PVC.

  • @danman281
    @danman281 Před 4 lety +2

    Good to know!

  • @donaldlee6760
    @donaldlee6760 Před 4 lety +149

    I love your experiment, however I'm curious if the dry wood and leaves would have simply floated on the top of a bucket of water too. Would a fistful of dry sand or dirt dropped into a bucket of water float to the top or would much of it sink to the bottom?

    • @FRENCHDRAINMAN
      @FRENCHDRAINMAN  Před 4 lety +21

      I LIKE IT!! Thank you I will soak sand in a bucket and run it again! Good call thank you for commenting!!

    • @wadepatton2433
      @wadepatton2433 Před 3 lety +14

      It's been a year, no update?

    • @michaelvanos1423
      @michaelvanos1423 Před 3 lety +50

      Notice he has not shown an update. It's because he knows he is lying. Corregated pipe is trash. It captures water and sediment causing the pipe to clog. A PVC pipe has been shown time and time again that it is far superior. Look at the concrete tubes used for city drainage. They are not corregated because they would clog. Its not rocket science yet people still refuse to accept it.

    • @cryengine_x
      @cryengine_x Před 2 lety

      @@michaelvanos1423 corrugated is way easier to work with and cheaper and works fine so who cares tbh

    • @michaelvanos1423
      @michaelvanos1423 Před 2 lety +5

      @@cryengine_x the owner will when their house is having foundation issues due to the corrugated pipe collapsing and water not being moved away from the house. Corrugated pipe holds on to the water and is not strong enough to hold up over time. There are numerous counts of contractors, irrigation crews, and landscapers that had to dig up corrugated pipe that was collapsed and / or clogged with mud and debris and found it was causing water issues with foundations and basements. Go look up comparisons and you will see exactly why corrugated is trash. So you should care and if you dont then you clearly dont give a shyt about your home.

  • @samerk4970
    @samerk4970 Před 3 lety

    thanks for the great info.

  • @ROGERWALDMAN
    @ROGERWALDMAN Před 2 lety +1

    AWESOME VIDEO ! THANKS !

  • @victorstalick3719
    @victorstalick3719 Před 3 lety

    A very good instructional video.

  • @markanthony8493
    @markanthony8493 Před 3 lety +18

    The issue with Corrugated pipe is NOT the drainage DURING the rainstorm or rain event. The issue IS the encroachment and compromise of the plants, dirt, and roots that enter into the corrugated pipes to grow and block up the system. How do you account for THAT issue?

    • @zodsinclair8500
      @zodsinclair8500 Před 3 lety

      Pressure Washer down 1 end?
      Every 3mths or so?
      I don't Know I don't Own either....

    • @Shawn-wt4kh
      @Shawn-wt4kh Před 3 lety +14

      He doesn't account for it. He sells the pipe and moves on. Does the job and moves on. There's always a new victim to swindle.

    • @Krispy1011
      @Krispy1011 Před 2 lety +1

      You are 100% correct - root infestation is a major issue with corrugated pipes! Most home owners can't cut down all the trees - especially the neighbors!

    • @cryengine_x
      @cryengine_x Před 2 lety +1

      @@Krispy1011 you wrap it in landscape fabric and gravel dummy

    • @Krispy1011
      @Krispy1011 Před 2 lety

      @@cryengine_x You can do that and it will help, but roots will go through both over time. PVC is still 100% better, corrugated pipe also gets sludge build up and not too many people will run a drain snake or jet corrugated pipe due to it will be destroyed, and name calling is for low IQ people!

  • @ipitrader
    @ipitrader Před 2 lety

    Love it! Thank you! Great video! Awesome teacher. Subbed!

  • @bethbessemer8941
    @bethbessemer8941 Před 3 lety +1

    Working on a retaining wall and the more information I have the better. Thanks for the helpful and informative video!

  • @NK-ts4bd
    @NK-ts4bd Před 2 lety

    Thanks you for this video. Love it.

  • @MrSquareart
    @MrSquareart Před 4 lety +1

    Very very very nice video!!!!!!!

  • @malcolmveazie5394
    @malcolmveazie5394 Před 2 lety +10

    I am not a scientist, but how is this proof if there is no comparison?
    Thanks anyway for the effort to do the video.

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      @FRENCHDRAINMAN  Před 2 lety

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    • @fungalcream3814
      @fungalcream3814 Před 2 lety +1

      @@FRENCHDRAINMAN still doesnt compare shit lol

  • @americanfreedom6417
    @americanfreedom6417 Před 3 lety +1

    Excellent

  • @stevealaska73
    @stevealaska73 Před 4 lety +8

    Thank you for sharing this information. I'd be curious to know how long it takes the plastic pipe to become brittle, crack, and collapse due to age and surrounding pressure. I believe that sand stone and finer dirt may complicate matters within this pipe as well.

    • @TheHowellt
      @TheHowellt Před 4 lety +5

      That is precisely happened to the single wall corrugated pipe buried 3” below the sod! Completely collapsed and caved in ! What a mess

    • @DavidKlausa
      @DavidKlausa Před rokem

      Important point! Corrugated looks fine right off the bat, but where will it be in 20 years? How about 50 years?

  • @jasonfoster9118
    @jasonfoster9118 Před 3 lety

    Great video. Makes sense to me.

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  • @colomacountry
    @colomacountry Před 2 lety +1

    I agree with others from experience. Its the sediment that is the killer over time and can't be cleaned out. Also that sediment creates a nice little place for roots to follow and grow, eventually chocking the pipe off completely. Thanks for the video, but time and experience is the true master on this rather delicate subject. Good luck everybody, whatever you choose.

    • @bobd7038
      @bobd7038 Před rokem

      Line the trench with non-woven geotech fabric, lay corrugated perf pipe directly on bottom of trench, THEN add stone to trench, fold fabric over top of stone, trim fabric and staple fabric down with heavy duty landscape staples. Finish off with more stone as needed. Do this right the first time and the drain will last for fu(kin ever. You could add a clean out vent near the highest point of drain pipe for future flush out if necessary. Good luck!

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  • @billmitchell5805
    @billmitchell5805 Před 3 lety +2

    FDM - I have 3 downspouts that need to drain away from our house. The slope is very minor so I've thought up a plan. Hope you approve. If I just slightly bury these 3 pipes or maybe hook them together I can only get about 2 inches of bury to keep a slope. 4" pipe maximum. My thought was to bury them deeper, we could run them all into a box with a low inlet ( 6" )to connect to and this box needs an outlet or discharge maybe 4 to 6 inches higher to bleed off all the flow. Could even have a grate on top to prevent backflow. In the event of a big storm, it would just overflow into the yard. The only way I can think to get the system to work with such a minor slope. What do you think? Is such a drain box available? Our plan was to re-sod anyway so digging up the backyard is not a problem. Thanks,

  • @seanheuertz4479
    @seanheuertz4479 Před 4 lety +4

    Dude, I've been following for a while. You have helped me set up three long french drains that scream. Thanks for the help and info

  • @keithp115
    @keithp115 Před 3 lety

    Heard very good things about your business, and if you are one in the same, recently drove by your place in Almont MI a few days ago. Nicely done sir!

  • @MRGFUNKY0
    @MRGFUNKY0 Před 3 lety +2

    Now that's Tubular Turbulence 🤙

  • @icawn
    @icawn Před 4 lety +2

    what kind of size belly or belly depth is enough to trap leaves? i know there are several factors to consider, but a ballpark idea or more examples could help. i have a couple 70ft runs to do from my gutters. i'm not sure i could do it without any sort of belly, particularly with curves where straight edges or sorts become impractical. i saw your shovel string slope video and it does go a long way to helping. any other tricks to staying straight. do your guys ever use straight edges and levels to keep those trenches flat? i would have also liked to have seen roofing granules, since I have no trees but a new roof.

  • @rhtball
    @rhtball Před rokem +2

    The key is finding the right fabric to cover your pipe....You really need the Landscaping kind that is much thicker and keeps the sediment out....Also a good slope in the beginning of the pipe will move the water nicely when it rains....It doesn't' hurt to add a drain basin at your downspout as well. You can clean all the leaves and debris from that to prevent clogging down the line, just saying...

    • @FRENCHDRAINMAN
      @FRENCHDRAINMAN  Před 4 měsíci

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  • @ScrewySquid
    @ScrewySquid Před 2 lety +3

    I had to watch this twice. The second time was to count how many times "turbulence" was said. Its 20

  • @tunafish3216
    @tunafish3216 Před 4 lety +3

    What about a demo on the blue pipe with the slots.

  • @matthewgiesselmann6188

    I appreciate that it has turbulence from the interior grooves, but we have lots of trees around our place and I imagine that especially small sticks would still get stuck in the interior grooves. I recently came across a video promoting Double Wall corrugated pipe which isn't quite as flexible as single wall, but still has some give and has a SMOOTH interior.

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  • @luiswelin
    @luiswelin Před 4 lety +22

    I would like to see sand and small stones.

    • @DANIEL-ls5ku
      @DANIEL-ls5ku Před 4 lety +9

      L MW Not gonna happen, that will immediately debunk his theory.

  • @vincentm1641
    @vincentm1641 Před 4 lety +6

    Could you do a side by side comparison of PVC sewer pipe vs single wall corrugated pipe

    • @Derek-Hicks
      @Derek-Hicks Před 4 lety +1

      Glad to see this, it puts my mind at rest as I put the corrugated pipe behind my retaining wall and later doubted myself and thought I should have used the solid pipes

  • @CaneFu
    @CaneFu Před 3 lety +1

    Excellent demonstration, sometimes old myths die hard and it takes a visual example, thanks for the information.

  • @1jfreak777
    @1jfreak777 Před 4 lety +7

    Regardless of what pipe is used, debris will not get through the grate or pop-up at the end of the line. It's good PM for homeowner to flush and clean out annually to avoid any major failures.

    • @edwardgarrison2377
      @edwardgarrison2377 Před 2 lety

      No that's B's that's just a money grab for contractors probably like you too keep your clients on a maintenance program

    • @12333
      @12333 Před 2 lety +1

      @@edwardgarrison2377 You cannot fight against gravity. A pop up like that will always retain water in the pipe. direct out to sunlight with drop is the only way to have a clean line.

  • @sb-mu3pb
    @sb-mu3pb Před 3 lety +4

    So you're saying that corrugated pipe never clogs? I just spent an hour in the pouring rain pulling my downspouts out of the top of buried corrugated pipes that were clogged with compacted oak tree pollen pods. The water was back flowing badly. Corrugated pipes or ok but they do clog. Blame it on the installer but in the end, they are clogged no matter how many times you say turbulence.

  • @woxie4990
    @woxie4990 Před 3 lety +3

    Great video, thank you for sharing, but, how can we know that PVC isn't just as "self-cleaning" without the same test run through it (50ft clear pvc w/ "medium 'rain'")?

  • @rogermccaslin6750
    @rogermccaslin6750 Před 3 lety +19

    Everything you put in there floated so there's no wonder it all flowed through. You said you were going to do a video with sand and small rocks. Did you ever do that? I'm curious because I run a sewer and drain business and we often get calls to clear corrugated lines. I'm always looking for better ways to do things. We use a jetting machine, running relatively low pressure and high volume (1500-1800 psi and 12-14 gpm), to flush the debris. You are right, turbulence does help to move debris by keeping it suspended in the water column so it will move down the line but sand is particularly hard to move, even with a jet.
    We also have a lot of root infiltration so sometimes we need to crank up the pressure to cut those but I'm always worried about damaging the pipe when I do that. Haven't cut through yet, but it's always in the back of my mind.

    • @ericcarlson7641
      @ericcarlson7641 Před 3 lety +4

      If dirt/ sand whatever gets in it will collect on the bottom. Specially considering most pipe is laid at a .10 slope (typically). Normally it will push throughout time but you will mostly always have a layer on the bottom
      ...but the garden hose in the end isn't the greatest example to use considering the waer is going in through many many many slots. If you have that kind of water going in 15ft off pipe you have a Noah's ark type flood.

    • @ericcarlson7641
      @ericcarlson7641 Před 3 lety

      If your doing a install and want to keep basically bullet proof for sand use filter or small slit tile. And wrap all connections with fabric

    • @gjpatterson1
      @gjpatterson1 Před 2 lety

      Why are you getting sand and ROCKS in your downspouts? You’ve got bigger issues than what pipe to use.

  • @u2be4evr
    @u2be4evr Před 4 lety +2

    How will this (corrugated pipe) hold up to moles? I am considering PVC over corrugated pipe simply due to the widespread mole problem in our area (despite killing them). I would rather use corrugated pipe, but moles.... Thoughts?

  • @kirkbodendorfer5313
    @kirkbodendorfer5313 Před 3 lety +26

    You never showed a comparison to pipe that has soothe walls

    • @gainsum
      @gainsum Před 3 lety +8

      He don't want to show it sucks. Watch gate city drainage

    • @djbunkerking1
      @djbunkerking1 Před 3 lety

      Agree with this. Should have cut a piece. Of 4" PVC in half and did the same thing.

    • @daleborowsky9900
      @daleborowsky9900 Před 2 lety

      @@gainsum x¹

    • @TheDew1983
      @TheDew1983 Před 2 lety

      Smooth pipe is the way to go. With corrugated it gives more water resistance slowing water down causing sediment build up, the easy water flows the easier it carries sediment away.

  • @nickwit21
    @nickwit21 Před 4 lety +2

    You just saved me alot of time and research, as I was just trying to decide which pipe I should use! Asked and answered! Thanks

  • @GH0ST369
    @GH0ST369 Před 3 lety

    Depth pipe is being buried at.
    Slope of the run you intend to drain.
    Distance of the run. And depth of your frost line are all really important factors in choosing between PVC and corrugated agree with the person that said there's no reason you can't use both in certain circumstances both have their place for cost saving and ease of installing.
    One important maintenance factor many guys forget to include is clean out ports especially at multi-line tie-in junctions.

  • @DRock70
    @DRock70 Před 4 lety +7

    Keep testing with the clear pipe over a long period of time.

    • @chriswf
      @chriswf Před 3 lety +1

      That's a lot of water he'd be using :D

  • @litpanda136
    @litpanda136 Před 4 lety

    im baked af that intro tripped me out

  • @CBDubz
    @CBDubz Před 4 lety +19

    I’m genuinely curious about sediment build up like sand.

    • @michaelvanos1423
      @michaelvanos1423 Před 3 lety +12

      Ashton is right. The ridges can act like rocks in a river and collect sediment. If the water isn't moving fast enough then it will build up and clog the pipe. This video is garbage in proving his point as he controlled everything. Every pipe will work initially when you set it up to do so.

    • @andreaberryman5354
      @andreaberryman5354 Před 3 lety

      It still bumbles along. Problem with non-corrugated grows slime. Lol

  • @ironhead37
    @ironhead37 Před 3 lety

    I always thought it was for flexibility, didn't think it helps keep it clean. Learned something new! Now I have a question... I have a sump pump that pumps into a corrugated pipe, and it seems to build up some iron ochre stuff in all the ridges. Is that stuff too muddy for the water turbulence to clean? Just wondering if that'll eventually clog or if it that's as bad as it would get and stay relatively clean (although losing some turbulence action)

  • @Semiam1
    @Semiam1 Před 3 lety +2

    I figured it out. Some of the narration in the video sounds like Ray Liota in Goodfellas.

  • @teacherlynn671
    @teacherlynn671 Před 4 lety +1

    I have a small area where water collects by the house. It is right above a buried solid wall pipe that carries water from the backyard drains to the street (drilled hole in the curb and it drains in the street). What would I use to run the water into that pipe and how would I connect solid wall pipe into the corrugated pipe and should I wrap the pipe?

  • @krushgroove1
    @krushgroove1 Před 4 lety +10

    What is the required slope to keep smooth wall pipes self cleansing?

    • @wendymorrison5803
      @wendymorrison5803 Před 3 lety +4

      Unless its vertical, corrugated will never be self cleaning

  • @justsomeguy4033
    @justsomeguy4033 Před 3 lety +39

    Can you show that exact experiment with PVC to show the difference?
    And maybe show both, with a sediment flow test side by side also? (The small particle flow that tends to settle, giving tree roots something to latch onto after sneaking in through slots, which leads to clogged arteries)
    ..and can you use the good PVC not the cheap thin stuff ..something equivalent to the heavy duty pipe you show here.
    I'm just a rookie, so I am truly curious. Thanks!

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    • @justsomeguy4033
      @justsomeguy4033 Před 3 lety +2

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      I guess i asked the right guy👍🏼
      Thanks for the thorough answer.

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  • @DriHand
    @DriHand Před 2 lety

    Nice bucket that’s a good bucket great bucket in-fact

  • @1vertical11
    @1vertical11 Před 2 lety +3

    Put some shingle gravel in the mix then watch how clean it stays

  • @vadimnesen8060
    @vadimnesen8060 Před 4 lety +4

    So i guess as long as I put a gutter filter i dont have to worry about the leafs

  • @markbols3128
    @markbols3128 Před rokem

    Corrugated tile is used in farm fields with a tenth grade and they don't fill with dirt unless the end of tile plugs. And then will clean themselves out. Miles upon miles are out laying in farm fields with much less slope than homeowners have and no issues if done properly!

  • @neilbrew8985
    @neilbrew8985 Před 3 lety +1

    Such a good video, people are always talking bad about corrugated pipe. I only use PVC in high traffic areas!

  • @dustbat
    @dustbat Před 2 lety

    I have corrugated pipe as French drains and as just long running drains. I find at the end of the pipe I have to reach in arms length and pull out a lot of goo and mud.( probably semi annual) Too old to do it myself now. I do find a real heavy rain will push a lot of it out.

    • @FRENCHDRAINMAN
      @FRENCHDRAINMAN  Před 2 lety

      Run a hose in the discharge end and work the segment out. It more then likely was built without a good Non-Wolven filter fabric.

    • @dustbat
      @dustbat Před 2 lety

      @@FRENCHDRAINMAN You are correct sir. I had a landscaper replace it all when doing a new walk. Now there is all gravel,no dirt added period. They did put some kind of fabric over it.

  • @kelvinstirbys6714
    @kelvinstirbys6714 Před 4 lety +1

    Would a water slide work better? Or sluices for moving wood with water, seems that would work better.

  • @randyc2367
    @randyc2367 Před 2 měsíci

    My experience was with roof shingle gravel it plugged my drain tile completely

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  • @jimbozz6845
    @jimbozz6845 Před 4 lety +7

    Would the cleansing action still work with a pop-up drainage configuration at the end?

  • @georgemckenzie2525
    @georgemckenzie2525 Před 3 lety

    In electrical its called self lubing
    The interior friction is reduced as the peaks of the rib interior, cable contact points , represent a fraction of of the actual distance.

  • @skywalker0999
    @skywalker0999 Před 3 lety

    Very, very informative video. Is that why the dishwasher drain line is corrugated also?

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      @FRENCHDRAINMAN  Před 3 lety

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  • @kevinrai2455
    @kevinrai2455 Před 4 lety +2

    I live in south texas with gumbo mud

  • @MadebyaBEAutifulqueenBea
    @MadebyaBEAutifulqueenBea Před 4 lety +2

    I am not understanding why I'm watching your video. Lol I was watching Bay watch but now I'm stuck on this video. 🤦‍♀️ great video 💙🐝💙

  • @gregsettle9725
    @gregsettle9725 Před 3 lety +3

    Everything you threw in there was large and buoyant plus you had a steady water flow. It would have been better had you thrown in some roof grit, etc. Interesting video, nonetheless.

  • @kelvinstirbys6714
    @kelvinstirbys6714 Před 4 lety +1

    Good info. Im convinced. Thank you!

  • @Jeremy_Walker
    @Jeremy_Walker Před 2 lety

    Can appreciate the effort and thought here... not sure this is very accurate though.

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  • @jameschupp2230
    @jameschupp2230 Před 3 lety

    Yea, I was also wondering, what it looks like with some clay sediment or sand? I would agree with you, but it might help defuse skeptics

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  • @Randy58-zn4ez
    @Randy58-zn4ez Před 4 lety +4

    Eventually all the low spots in the drain fill with debris and flow is reduced.

  • @phonotd
    @phonotd Před 2 lety +1

    It's not even corrugated drainage pipe, it's flexible duct pipe, as used in dust extraction systems in woodworking shops for instance.