Underground Downspout Drain - Done Right The First Time Work Smarter NOT Harder ] Drainage For DIYer
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- We've got a couple new tricks in store for underground buried downspouts in 2022.
We're going to show you how to install a roof runoff system and vent the downspouts at the inline catch basin. The catch basin will catch shingle gravel and run it to a pop-up emitter that's going to be installed in a way to act as a mini dry well.
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So nice to see and hear from someone that does things right and not just do the cheapest and fastest job! We need a lot more contractors like you!
Finding someone that has pride in their work is rare not just with saturation of DIY tradesmen but with current culture in general
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Great the team left the place clean and tidy, impressive!
Guy had me cracking up talking about SOD. "Yes, it stretches, everythings fine" LOL
Love the explanation on this. I'm doing this myself, almost exact situation. Thank you so much. I'll check these products out
Tim from Canada, just saw this video, funny, you told me on Monday this pop up set up was on the way. THANKS again for the great advice.
Perfect video. I have horrible red clay soil. In the spring, it's like walking on a wet sponge. Was going to ask about using the fabric to make a stone pocket under the popups, d-boxes, etc. Good to see I was on the right track.
i like the venting aspect,the plywood makes for easier shoveling,and roof grit catching ,well thought out,i also use drain channels w grates
Love the high octane armor pipe
Wish I knew that trick about blowing the dirt out of the grass! Thanks for the tip!
This is the updated video enjoy
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Great video, I think something like this could be the solution I'm looking for. Waiting for the diy kits!
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You know what would be amazing for the catch basin would be a stainless steel screen basket. Like a hybrid between a reusable coffee filter and a swimming pool skimmer basket. You may even be able to design something that could be retrofitted to your existing system. The staginess steel screen would be able to remove even the shingle gravel.
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Awesome! I’ve been designing this in my head for where I live for years now. You beat me to making it happen.
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I like your video demonstration. Very professional work.
I always watch your channel. Keep them coming.
Thank you.
Perfection on explanation and installation!!
Thank you!!
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Love the mini catch basin. Great idea.
Greet video French Drain Man.
Layouts for DIY with a kit for start to finish
I'm on it. We were just talking about this. I will get it done.
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That's be awesome
Having a hand tamper on site makes for a better backfill and sod replacement job.
Not a new product, but a possible experiment. Was thinking about adding a catch basin in a low spot next to the downspout line. Then wrap the grate with your fabric to keep out the bulk of the debris. I have Bermuda grass, so it should grow over and cover it as well. A quick fix for a bad spot where water pools up.
Suggestion: A heavy corrugated pipe like you have but, with a smooth wall!
That would essentially be a double wall pipe. I know they're made in 8" diameter and up, not sure about 3 or 4" sizes though.
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It is as if you were watching me these past 2 weeks. We are north enough to freeze and I was replacing some work done last year with 2 runs using gen 1 popups/restrictors. I extended both runs to the curb, I am using the latest popups/ restrictor plate with a 90 degree fitting and holes drilled in it, My soil is clay and agree it can be a sponge. So I did 2 things - I dug out a mini dry well under both popups , and wrapped the hole and stone in your fabric. Unlike your T connector shown in the video here, the popup with 90 degree connector doesn't go as deep into the ground as that fitting. So the drywell is independently wrapped and is closer to the surface than what you'd have using what is in the video. I also used 2 feet of your cut pipe from the popup to the solid. Again, did this because of freeze issues. Come winter, water should have ways to escape, even if teh popup is under snow or ice. I used your fabric to line the trench (above the drywell portion as well) from the popup to 2 feet past the perforated pipe connection wrapped carefully and packed everything down. So I have 2 feet of perforated pipe wrapped to let water remaining in teh pipe an escape route. Now, I've had to repack the soil around the popups a couple of times, as heavy rain showed that while these worked great and water comes out of the popup but eventually it also finds it's way from beneath/around the popup as the drywell fills and the clay soil around the drywell and under the popup supersaturates and the water looks to exit. This water did compact the soil such that I had to add more to deal with soil compaction and fill the voids the water created. Also, in my case, I've no turf or sod just a dirt yard being restarted from scratch and I think the soil with grass goes a long way to making the pipe and popups stable when wet. But at the moment, I can still walk the trenches after a rain and compact it more . But once I have grass I think it'll all stabilize. A local water utility guy who was checking my meter said the popups being right at the curb was perfect for getting the water into the storm drain. .
Thanks for the video upload!
Be nice to see an "after" video showing the system working.
Here is a video showing the biggest mistakes you want to avoid
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Hello sir! Love your videos. Would love a video that explains when to use corrugated pipe with 4-8 slots in the wells vs. when to use the knife cut corrugated pipe vs. when you would use solid corrugated pipe with no slots. And what application or scenario you would you use each for. Thank you and appreciate all your efforts!
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Its funny how after how many years of it raining that we are still trying to better something as simple as drainage. You would think we are pretty smart and have this figured out but we are still improving.
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Great video gave some great ideas great product looks real sturdy as well.
Thank you
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That ditch will still settel over time. GUARANTEE.
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Having a small electric jack/demo hammer on site will make that hand dig job much easier and save $$$. Like you say, work smarter not harder!
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I've got a corrugated pipe that just dead ends under the grass. There's a drop off of at least a meter and a half between the start and the end of the pipe. During heavy rain events, there is enough pressure in that pipe that the grass will rip and open up, allowing gravel and other miscellaneous materials to wash out. The grass falls right back into place as soon as the rain is over. I definitely should do something to set it up better, but heck, its been working fine for about 2 decades at this point.
Nothing like a good thunderstorm to clean out a gutter drain.
I don't understand why the whole line isn't PVC. It helps the flow much better as that blue piping is still corrugated which slows down the flow and traps debris.
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That's awesome, I like it.
Great video
This would work down in fl ..lots of heavy rain..down here no freezing going on..
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Great, educational video. We purchased a new home a little over a year ago. New construction. Whoever installed the pop up drain for the downspout in front of our house must not have done it correctly. I'm basing that off the fact that this past winter, our front stoop, right where the drain runs under, has cracked. Including a corner of the driveway. My theory is that the drain pipe thawed and froze during the coldest part of the winter. Now the builder that built our house is out of business. :(
Sorry to hear that. Take it to the storm sewer.
Do you guys make the downspout filter /vent/ blow outs for 3” round downspouts? Awesome videos!
We just started making 4" Round. We should have these in a few weeks. 3" Round is another couple of years away because nobody is asking for 3"
Very low demand
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Wish they had the “new” pop up before I did all my downspouts with the old spring loaded style w the turf restrictor plate. Have never seen a spring loaded style lift up at all during heavy rains and wondering where that water is going.
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Why don't you want the spout water running to the yard? I am in Texas, we take all the water we can get
I got to say i like your in line catch basin that's nice
Pop-up emitter are huge! Could you hide it with some short astroturf?
Grass grows over them fast.
Amazing workmanship. Can’t even tell work was done. Would you recommend this product if I have to blow my gutters out 5 times a year? I have a large maple and other types that clog my gutters. The flutters are terrible in spring time. I’d be afraid of clogging the system with all this junk that goes down the spouts.
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Is there a possibility that roots grow in the mini drywell and into the pipe itself, even though there's landscape fabric? Love the videos, extremely informative and useful for someone living in Manitoba.
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I'm curious how this system is going to catch shingle gravel if it gets stuck under the slab before it makes it to the pop up. Wouldn't smooth PVC have been better?
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How many downspouts should you try and y together? And what is the minimum distance you should run away from the house?
I was going to ask the same questions, how many downspouts can you wye to a single pop up? And distance?
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A corner or edge popup that you can put at the edge of a sidewalk, driveway, or curb would be useful...as my first thought/question was can I trim the disk to get the popup to emit the water right over the egde of street curb.
Yes you can.
the product that the industry needs is that pipe at a much lower price
Right now materials are at a all time high and we are just happy to have the materials. It's been a struggle for sure. Again I'm just glad I have the materials. It's cheap when you compare it to a failed system on budget materials that needs to be done Again.
Directing roof water to the street would not be appropriate in our area. Overloading storm sewers like this is taboo. Instead, "rain gardens" in the yards are preferred.
If you like more maintenance.🤷🏻♂️
thank you for the video. How deep do i have to dig for the blue pipe
how do i ensure water will run off to street?
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I wish I knew where you guys where at... I'd hire you without question.
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Hello Robert, I’m out of Columbus, Ohio. It is standard to take our roof water run off systems under the sidewalk and to the curb. The problem is that the pipe has to belly under the sidewalk and then come back up to go out of the curb. Is there a way to develop a fitting that would connect to 3 inch schedule 40 pipe but it would flatten out to reduce the belly effect but still retain the capacity of a 3 inch pipe
I will work on it. That is a good idea because it will not chock down the flow. The water will speed up in the smaller diameter pipe "Mass Flow Rate" water in motion with its kinetic energy.
It’s called concrete, which is comprised of CEMENT, stone, sand and water. Tom
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At what point do you need multiple pipes off multiple downspouts? I have 3 downspouts and I'm wondering can I connect them all to 1 drain pipe and popup? Or will that overwhelm the system? Texas flood area
As long as it's a 4" pipe your solid. We run up to 5 downspouts on a 4" line in Michigan. I wouldn't advise that for you. 3 isn't a issue.
Nice work, can I send you a video of my yard, I’ve done some plumbing for storm water and French drain which sorted out some issues but after all the rain had in Australia have a fair bit of wet area in yards. Can do a live video with you but time frame might be quite different.
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great job - The builder should be ashamed at the way he connected the downspout to the black drain pipe that frames the entryway.
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roots!
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I'll be doing this project next month. Should I locate underground lines / Bluestake before digging? We only need to trench 12-18 inches into the ground. The drain will run past the electric breaker panel ... ??
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What would you do in San Diego we need to keep the water on the property
Build a Leach Field
If you connect 4 downpipes to a single 4 inch hose will that not reatrict the flow of water in a heavy rain. Even with 2x3 small down pipes you have 6 square inches of flow in every diwnpipe x 4 and you have 24 square inches going i to a 4 inch hose which is only 12.5 square inch cross sectional pipe. ??
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Do the math. We do.
How much does a job like this cost. Thanks for sharing.
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Can you attach downspouts to the french drain system?
Only if you wanted to destroy your french drain and give it an early expiration date.
So is there no caps at the bottoms of the pop ups and clean outs.
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if you have a problem with both downspout water and standing yard water, will the same product you installed work or would you need a combination/separate French drain???
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Not sure if i understand the need for the in line basin? your leaking water into the soil at the bottom of it which confuses me if the purpose is to get rid of water as far away from the house as possible. you also mention its purpose is for venting but the connection at the downspout should have a vent on it right? just trying to understand this. i live in chicago and don't have a huge lot so i really only want to put in a vent/cleanout at the downspout connection and then the pop up at the end of the run near the sidewalk.
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Why didn't the house builder do all this work? Rather than having to dig up the lawn it should have been done before the landscaping!!
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When would you use the in-line catch basin instead of a D-box? Also, no knife cut after the catch basin? Trying to plan a DIY install and getting confused with all the different installation methods in different videos.
I will make you a video. This video will cover everything. Thank you for commenting.
@@FRENCHDRAINMAN Does the 4inch Pop-up Emitter Catch Basin with Sump remove the need for a separate 4inch Catch Basin? Or do you need to use both?
For this type of use case with downspouts, do you have to create a slope on the trench since it’s a flat property? Also, would you use the type of pipe without holes?
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Does a mower not lift up the pop-up lid and destroy it?
If the homeowner doesn't install the pop-up at the proper depth that can happen, but the top is easily replaced.
So do you cap the bottom of the basin or leave it open?
Leave it open.
Can you run over the pop up emitter with a mower without damaging it? Seems like the vacuum of the mower might pull the hatch up and then cut it to pieces.
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Is there a certain % slope you shoot for when putting these in? Are you shooting laser or just running with the natural slope?
Both. 1% Slope. If I can get more I will always take it.
Great work, but the install on the corrugated under the cement left a lot to be desired. They could’ve cut it closer to the cement!
Armor pipe does flex like the Black thinner pipe and we needed to twist it a bit for alignment.
Thank you for commenting.
Is there any issue with using similar sized PVC for a job like this? Southeast USA
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What type of landscaping fabric do you recommend we purchase when doing this (or other) projects
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What kind of tape are you guys using on those connections?
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Could use the new pipe for a sump pump discharge and not use pvc?
Hey dude should of put a tee underneath the concrete and ran 1 4 inch corrugated out the yard. Working smarter not harder
I don't use Tees as the video explains. Thank you for commenting.
What's the big issue with shingle gravel?? I've never heard of any issue with it. Not like alot will come off the roof all at once, it'll take YEARS for enough to clog anything up.
Nice. can u drive over this? as I might install this across the driveway. how deep are your trenches for this install?
Pack it in crushed stone 3/4" for driving over the pipe
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Hello would you know anyone in Louisville Ky that would be as good as you guys at doing down spouts drains
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These new catch basins and pop up emitters are nice. One thing I don't understand, Where does the shingle gravel go. If the basin has a hole on the bottom and you fill the bottom with pea stone to act as a dry well, is the shingle gravel collecting on top of the pea stone. With a D box it made sense to use a shop vac and clean out the shingle gravel, but with these won't you suck up the pea stone at the same time. Your videos are awesome. Thanks
The pea stone is on the OUTSIDE of the in line catch basin. So it's empty inside. The basin has many holes drilled in it to allow for the water to leach into the pea stone. Thank you for commenting. I hope this helps.
@@FRENCHDRAINMAN My apologies, I thought the in line catch basin was open on the bottom like the new pop-up emitter. Can I ask why sometimes you use a D box (or this new in line basin) a few feet away from the downspout and sometimes you just run the pipe straight to the pop-up. If I am nervous about debris and gravel collecting in the pipe, then one of these in line basins is a must, correct. Any fear of the water velocity slowing down when it goes into the basin?
is that armor pipe smooth on the inside?
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I am wondering if it could you use the pop up on the discharge line of a sump pump?
Absolutely
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At what point do you switch over to machinery vs hand digging your trenches?
Economics
i don't have a down sprout, what's the range of for this project if I need about 12-15 feet away from my house, labor and materials? how long this material last?
The Blue Pipe last forever because it's HDPE virgin material on recycled material.
Question - Are catch basins required? How come the Buried Downspout Kit for 1% Slope Kit on your website doesn't include them? In this video, would it be OK to connect the two downspout pipes with a Wye and not have any catch basins? In other words, would it work if you did everything the same as in the video except not use any catch basins?
Does the new 4 in. Pop-up Emitter Catch Basin with Sump remove the need for catch basins as you have in this video?
I want the catch basin to collect shingle gravel as well as a vent. In the winter the street is plowed and snow is ice packed on the pop-up emitter near the street, the water can vent out the basin.
In most cities you can't take the water all the way to the street.
If it only runs during a rain your fine but if it's a sump pump line running all the time they will ask you to remove it. Usually 20ft off the street.
How much rock is need for the french drain per foot?
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I was just thinking the other day about how you wrap the slotted pipe with landscaping fabric. Do you think it would be ok to pour some anti weed liquid into the cleanout at the gutter? Would it harm the pipe?
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How do I find someone in my area (WI) that does what you do? Search for landscapers? Plumbers? I need a sump pump discharge line buried and a downspout underground line attended to. Thanks!
Google "Yard Drainage Contractor near me."
Where can I get some of that blue pipe I have some downspouts where the lawn mowing person hits it with his weed eater and has cut holes in it so I need to cut it off at ground level put an adapter on it and then connect it back to the downspout I need about 6 ft to do three downspouts.
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Where is your product sold ? I am in Wi. North of Milwaukee.
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I would think it would take an absolute downpour for those gigantic popups to work.. Have a feeling alot of that water is going to drain through those catch basins close to the house.. Am i missing something?
Water finds the lowest points. The catch basin is up stream.
how does the drain pipe react to being penetrated by core aeration tines? it looked like the install wasn't low enough to prevent penetration in the fall.. but i could be wrong, just doesn't look like it. thanks
Core aeration is a cash grab. It's for bentgrass not Blue Grass Blends. Save your money. I own a landscaping company. FDM is owned by a design build company and my turf management background is extensive. Aeration is a rip off. People see the golf courses core aerating the bentgrass and think they need to do their lawn at home. Cash grab for the lawn guys. Again save your money. I hope this helps. Thank you for commenting.
@@FRENCHDRAINMAN 10-4, I am not familiar with the turf in Michigan. Makes sense to me now .. I live in Virginia, the fescue pretty much has to have it. But makes sense to me why you don’t have to bury things as low as we do. Good stuff! Thanks for the reply.
Dude...you guys travel to N.C?
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I moved into a home where downspouts were cemented. Problem is the downspout connection that’s cemented has been damaged and leaking to the side of the house.
What is the best way around this to fix it without damaging concrete
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Playlist doesn’t do any help. I watched lots of your videos and haven’t seen one with my problem
But is that blue pipe strong?
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