Houston Rockets Draft Reed Sheppard! Brooklyn and Houston Mega Trade! Sengun For Kevin Durant?
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- čas přidán 26. 06. 2024
- In this episode of Rockets Talk Roosh and Frank discuss the Rockets drafting Reed Sheppard with the 3rd overall pick, they also discuss the multi team trade involving the Nets, Suns and Knicks and lastly the trade rumors surrounding Alperen Sengun. #reedsheppard #houstonrockets #nba #podcast #alperensengun #jalengreen #amenthompson #nbadraft
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Jalen going there to welcome Reed Sheppard to Houston was super cool.I felt goosebumps. Jalen is learning fast. Last season under Ime udoka felt like his real rookie year.
Reed is super excited to be a Rocket because now Roosh will hopefully tweet him advice so he can unlock his potential
Completely agree
Reed already locked in with me and we're getting to work. Thanks for listening. --Roosh
😂
This season coming up is the most important season of the rebuild. I’m not going to lie I’m not trading Sengun for nobody on the Suns. He a homegrown guy, he hella young and only going to get better !
Cap lol. For booker that man is gone
@@jasonmalikclayborne4405 If you can keep Sengun and get Booker that’s cool but Booker for Sengun no sir.
Reed has to be on cloud 9 rn, 8 months ago he wasn't on any draft boards. Wasn't a starter at Kentucky and had the lowest usage rate of all the lottery picks. Reed is the biggest winner of the draft, no matter what happens in his career.
I think he was there for one of his other friends that were drafted and he just happened to say hey to Reed
Love the aspect of us having an athletic white dude at a combo guard!!!
Not to mention the Sengun effect!!!
MARK PRICE! 😂
That was exactly who I was thinking of for the comp, just five seconds before you said it!
I think he’s gonna be an every night star, to go along with Sengun, Amen, and Cam! And Jalen, if he can start this year like he finished the last. That vision might be a year or two away, but this year will bring it into focus!
Mark Price was so cold! --Roosh
Reed reminds me of a Steve Nash type of player. i am looking forward to watching houston next year
Udoka needs to see the possibilities of having depth. Its counter to common NBA practice but depth lets you keep people fresh. Fresh legs let you maintain defensive intensity and keep that shooting percentage high. I would put Sheppard on the B team with Adams, Amen, Cam, and Tari. Adams throws some incredible outlet passes and now you have all those athletic guys and Sheppard as the trailer with the 3. They are going to destroy a lot of second units. I expect Sheppard to be very similar to VanVleet - a perfect tutor for him. All that Clingan talk was nonsense - analytics still mean a lot in the rockets front office. Everyone said Clingan also had good analytics - not by my math. He will be a back up and he is not a shooter. Sheppard will probably look really good in summer league but he won't be starting any time soon.
@BossNerd - What makes you think Udoka doesn’t know that…??? Look at where he comes from and the success he’s had.
Good take. I love it!
I like the take, but I also think Ime already knows about the importance of depth
Rockets just watched Boston win the championship by bombing out with 3 pointers and defense. I think the analytics department and Ime were able to sway Stone into drafting Sheppard because it's time to win, and in the NBA you've gotta be able to shoot the 3 to make playoff runs.
Five in Five out might not be a bad idea. The Blazers did it back in the early 2000’s under Dunleavy. That team was solid.
Man, All the Alp haters were trying to convince people that Clingone was the pick/some special shiet. Thank god we didnt draft white Hasheem Thabeet (Another Uconn Legend) or James Wiseman. Now Stone, if there is a chance get ma boy Bona.
He will still be a liability downlow and he needs to learn how to not clog the lane.
@@Mrnappy13 Keep crying.
@2GuyYGO not crying I'm speaking facts but hey keep juggling his balls I guess 😂😂😂😂😂😂
nahhh I'm a alp fan I just called it before March madness that Reed Sheppard or a big was what we needed just cause I like Reed dint mean I don't like amen or Jalen... just cause I feel like an extra big pause would be great don't meN we alpi haters ... my thing was when allpi go against these super big guys he could use another big to add some fouls lean on em a Lil bit help with rebound I was really scared a team with a good big would get another one and alpi can't beat Bismark byombo rt now lol all that being said back I. March I started my Reed Sheppard campaign I'm glad even if he just Steve Kerr or jj reddick I'm cool even if he bust I'm cool it's a great gamble I project more like a mark price2.0 type I hope ... I think the understated point is between him and Jabari we got the best two shooters at their position 2 out If 3 years that's scary because Bari still clutch and now with Reed our shooting is going to be crazy I the future
@@EF_HUTTON i got what u say but wanting another center when having Adams, Landale and Bari as a stretch 5 was dumb and kinda looked like sneak diss at Alp to me. And Landale looked great after Alp's injury and Jabari was good too as a stretch 5 in March.
The core players on the Rockets are only between 19-22 yrs of age. You want to win now, but that doesn't mean you have to give up on them too soon. You don't give them a deadline. A guy like JG didn't even play college basketball. He's technically just a junior in college. BE PATIENT!
An underrated aspect of Reed's fit in the Rockets is how he prefers and excels playing off the ball. Even when he's playmaking, he rarely dwells on the ball. Granted, I only seen two of his Kentucky games, but the way he distributes the ball quickly, and relocates to receive a pass felt like he would fit in very well with us, as so many of our players like the ball in their hands.
Best non-white comp feels like FVV lol.
Thanks guys
Great discussion guys. We could argue Reed might even translate better in the NBA with more spacing and better talent around him. To me he is TJ McConnell with a flamethrower 🔥
Awesome show guys as always
Sheppard comp: Kenny Smith
Good shooter with dunk contest potential
Rockets assist numbers finna go up
Only channel I wanna hear talk about this
Reed is good choice. It is good that Stone trusted the proffessionals for the pick. His deal with Nets is a good one. Eveybody did his job good.....
That edit was live, when you walked out Fred😮
Great pod guys. Frank I was thinking like you on the trade back option. I said this in the begining of the draft process, that if the Rockets thought Sheppard's shooting would translate to the NBA they had to take him. they could not afford to allow SA to get their hands on him. by selecting him tells me the Rockets think he will shoot well on the next level. the fact that SA took Castle with the next pick meant the rumors were true they were looking to take the best guard from this draft. if Reed reaches his ceiling we may have killed 2 birds with 1 stone.
Also what jazz song is the intro
Plot twist, my comp is Mike Bibby for Reed Sheppard.
This is an interesting one. --Roosh
I can’t be upset about the pick because it definitely fits a need. I would have traded back, gotten future draft considerations and chosen Cody Williams. Never believed the Durant crap because it just doesn’t make sense. Booker maybe, but not Durant.
What I read was that none of the trade up offers from other teams were exciting, so the Rockets stayed put. Memphis almost surely offered something, but not enough to justify.
Reed is gonna be a good vanfleet sub
See that's why I stay away from rumors. They have no value on reality. They don't need a KD, and anyone telling them different, needs to shut up. Alpi is young and growing and has potential, a aging KD is just that. He's a shell of his former self. Keep what they have and grow. Let KD stay in Phoenix.
Our window has started!!
I think I was the first person to say go after Trae Young lol. If I wasn’t first, I was definitely in the top 3. So I love the Reed Shepard pick. We need someone with his particular set of skills No Taken lol.
Clingan would have been the safe pick , but Reed is the best business pick. Not mad at the pick, but after being drafted after 2 French players, you gotta play with a certain chip. Basically looks like international players have surpassed American players imo. I would have liked to see Clingan at 5 and Sengun at 4. In my mind I felt like they could coexist if defense was the identity. At least we could hang out hats on playing intensive defense. I feel like they want Reed to turn into a Curry type player with defensive upside. But I think due to his size, it’s going to be difficult for those college stats to translate to bigger faster players in the NBA. The bright side is, I feel like he is in a great opportunity to get rookie of the year if those 3s hit, and he’s somewhat formidable against elite PGs at the very least.
Aye frank, the "P's" were HEAVY as hell in the mic. lol
He all up on tha mic
I will keep with the college lillard as a non white comp for reed
Man how does Reed not get a comp to Bulls era Steve Kerr ??? Except waaaay more upside on defense
I think Amen will eventually become our Small Forward aka Trevor Ariza what do u all think
Stone got his “get back” when we traded for AJ Griffith 🤣
Meaning Atlanta owed him a “solid”🤣🤣🤷♂️
Damn so I can't make the Kurt Hinrich comp?
Lol hey, why not! -Roosh
Roosh would kill Frank in a rap battle 🤘🏽
Frank must now release some bars. --Roosh
Cam last!? Thats bold! For me it's Cam, Amen, Reed, Al-P, Jalen, Jabari, Tari.
So far, Cam is showing he got big time star power that's actually obtainable.
My non-White comp for Reed:
Floor: a shorter Anthony Morrow
Ceiling: 2024 version of Mahmuod Abdul-Raulf
Core 7 Rankings:
1) JG
2) Sengun
3) Amen
4) Tari
5) Reed
6) Bari
7) Cam
Derrick White the only non yt comp I can think of for Reed right now 😂
Dude put cam n bari below reed🤣🤣🤡
Trading for Bol Bol is the smartest thing we can do rn anybody else is unacceptable.
I like him he just needs playing time
@@calfowler6838 he’d be our only hope agains wemby & chet actions lol
If Reed can turn out to be combo guard that’s would be awesome
Just hope Reed doesn't get locked up by Bronny James in their matchup this season...that would be embarrassing
I’m not sold on this pick especially at number 3.
Well you need to be
Tell us who would you have taken instead? We needed shooting, we got the best shooter in the league
@@williamg7138Ron Holland or Rob Dillingham. Both players have a ton more upside
Lot of losing/mid teams in the NBA are stocked with great athletes who can't shoot. Celtics just showed that you're gonna get buried if you prioritize athleticism over shooting and defense.
Tell me who was a better pick
Fred Vanfleet comp ? Does that count ?
Reed should watch some highlights of Jason Williams and become the next White Chocolate.
Hold the line and we’ll be fine.
downtown freddy brown--seattle super sonics
I’m not a fan of this pick. Should’ve packaged it along with other pieces to get rid of the log jam at the 2-4 positions.
Watching more of Reed he reminds me of a young Mark Price (Showing my age here)
His shot mechanics look exactly the same as Mark’s An all star guard who is a generational shooter isn’t a bad comp.
Will he be that guy? Not sure but we can hope
That is literally the comp I mentioned in the show. Absolutely love Mark Price. --Roosh
@@StateOfTheRockets I must have missed that part. There are certainly similarities there. I think the odds of him being as good as Mark Price are slim but it isn't impossible.
That type of player would be a hella good player to partner with Sengun as well.
Not going to lie if Sengun doesn’t get traded in the future him and Devin Booker in a two man game would be so lethal it wouldn’t be funny.
Regardless that’s in the future what you guys says it’s pretty much spot on. By the rockets getting the Suns picks and giving the Nets most of their picks back.
They basically saying they don’t want no more young players.
For the next year or show they need to show if they are capable of making the playoffs or at least getting to the play in. Our young guys especially Sengun and Jalen have a one to two year window to see if they can lead us to the playoffs.
If they can the trade talks will die down if not Jalen Sengun maybe even Cam or Jabari might have to do some house shopping in Phoenix or Cleveland together in the next year or so.
As for Reed love the pick he makes the most sense for us. He can shoot he can pass and he fits this team like a glove meaning he can play with Jalen as the PG.
He can play with Fred off ball and depending on who has the ball he can play SG/PG with Amen.
He the perfect fit for this team and not to mention Fred is the perfect mentor for him since their games are so similar I can’t wait to see what he does in summer league
Also he can do some two man game with Sengun and Sengun finally has a guy he can pass too to shoot some threes 🥲.
With that said great video fellas
If Jalen Green don’t pan out
I will put him on the bench before I would consider trading him and make him a six man the dude got talent but honestly I got a feeling he gonna ball out this year
Yeah, dude hoops great when the offense goes thru him as option 1, but him coming off the bench with Cam on the floor wouldn’t work i don’t think cause they both need the ball. Rockets have a luxury of riches regarding SG’s
I think the Rockets need to address the small forward position with their next pick. A small forward that can shoot and play defense.
what lol, they have 3 forwards who already do that
Give Amen time he will become the small forward eventually
Insert AJ Griffin
I think the Nets were bluffing....I think they were gonna trade Bridges regardless, and they played us. If a team offers you 4 firsts and I think 4 swaps for a role player, you're not gonna take it? Even if it's the Knicks? The Nets were screwed....even if they kept Bridges, they were still gonna suck, and it was going to be a lottery pick. Stone's reasoning for doing the deal, was that we got 2 firsts and 2 swaps in return for those 2 Nets picks. But the problem is, you traded 2 guaranteed lottery picks, for picks from teams that have young stars. The last pick swap being in 2029 with either the Suns or Mavs. Booker will be 32, and Luka will be 30....barring a major injury, or trade demand, or their talent level falling off a cliff, they're still going to be on their same team, and still playing at a high level. So those 4 picks essentially, will be in the 15 to 30 range. You traded the opportunity to draft a superstar, in hopes of landing an old one, who's a diva, on a max deal, who's often injured. The other problem, is that the Nets now have 3 years to improve their team....so our 2027 Nets pick swap might not be that great anymore. The Nets are now loaded with picks, and after next season will be off the Ben Simmons contract, and have a ton of cap space. I think this trade could possibly be the worst in Rockets history...worse than the Paul for Westbrook deal....we didn't give up guaranteed unprotected lottery picks in that deal...in what's expected to be a really talented draft pool next year.
Not getting the same opportunity as Jalen got because he is not coming to the same type of situation, this team has a load of talent developing right now, when Jalen came in it was him and no one else
Lemme give yall some name for Reed comp non white, Ty Ty Washington? nah im kidding. Maybe Brandon Knight another Kentucky guard. Leandro Barbosa? Jameer Nelson? Or STEPHEN CURRY.
Devin booker. That’s it
@@quinntonexecute I believe in him, im pretty sure he will be great. 💯
@@2GuyYGO
Ty Ty Washington > Reed Sheppard 🤭
@@2GuyYGO
Curry averaged 15 FGA per game his freshman year of college, and 20 FGA per game his junior year…with opposing defenses focused on him. Reed averaged 8 FGA per game…most of which were wide open.
What Reed did at Kentucky with very limited volume was probably an anomaly. Especially considering he was shooting from the 30 percentile range from 3P range in high school with more volume. People fell for the same thing with Jabari thinking he was a great shooter but ignored his high school #’s.
I ALWAYS WANTED SHEEPARD BUT F DURANT WE DONT NEED HIM
No to Durant he is on the downside of his career....Devin Booker is a younger player so he may fit better
Yup, 1 more injury and he is done
It seems as if once the Rockets got the 3rd pick the Nets kinda swindled us….
Brooklyn is acting like they did us a favor when in all actuality the got Harden, it’s not our fault they gave him up
Fred Van Vleet as a comp
Compare: Scoot Henderson 3rd pick last year, Reed Sheppard 3rd pick this year. They’re are All most same size and height. But I’ll take Reed Sheppard over scoot Henderson any time any day. Let’s go Rockets💪
Michael Adams for comp with Reed
Damn my comp for him was a slightly taller TJ McConnell w an elite 3 pt shot… I don’t have any non-Caucasian comps yet lmao
durant is not worth a young sengun its not happening
If Green doesn’t make a leap next year I think Whitmore takes the scorer roll.
0:40 Frank Trump lmao then the Da Don Dada with the Trump hand gesture" the best" 🤣 😆 😂 too funny bro
I’m telling you right now, amen is untouchable. Ime isn’t giving him up AT ALL. They will give up any other player besides amen. I guarantee it. Similar to the sixers with maxey, If a team is HELLBENT on amen being that last detail to push a blockbuster through, It will not happen. Unlike the sixers, we have a treasure trove of young assets. It won’t come down to amen. At all
PT.2
Reed is going to get his chance.
It will always rise to the top.
The same way amen found his niche. It will ALWAYS rise to the top. You’re not going to be able to keep reed off the floor, ESPECIALLY if his defensive tenacity translates. That + being a worldwide sniper. I promise you, that kid is playing. ALOT
De’Arron Fox is the piece we need. Trade the picks and bring home an elite young PG.
I hope I’m wrong but this wasn’t an up towards move more of a side to side or a complete trash pick. We used to 3rd overall pick on a undersized shooting guard converting into a point? Plus coming off the bench? Okay I have nothing against Reed but not at the No. 3 pick. Nothing about this kid scream starting point guard and a potential major threat. All I see is a hopefully catch lightening in a bottle Curry once in a generation shooter. I don’t see that, Curry was hit from the parking lot in college.
The West is full of 6’4 plus points guards with physical builds. I’m thinking about Booker, Castle, Ja, Fox, Murray, Ant, may I say Luka. Reed would be a liable and would need to exit the floor during the playoffs. That’s my first move to take way his spot up jumper. Post him up every time. If you don’t have franchise player then trade back or just take the best in Castle. Oh yeah he went to SA, who’s going to be a nightmare matchup now with no Bigs to bang on Wemby. We are short and having Sengun banging against players 30 to 40 lbs heavier isn’t smart. This is the first indication that the shooting progress of Amen must not be going well. I thought Amen was going to be the antidote to the West big guards of with Tari helping at the forward spots. We could have called Detroit for Marcus Sasser if we looking for shooting from the point. I really really hope this isn’t a complete bust. Haven’t we learned from the down fall of Duncan of the heat that a single skill set is a major defensive liability.
At the most, I think Chauncy Billups is Reed Sheppard's comp.
Billups is 6'4. It's funny nobody actually gives comps for Sheppard with someone that is actually his size.
@@jihadmuhammad9491 I was under the impression that Billups was 6'3", which is like 1-inch off. Billups was a good shooter and a high IQ physical player.
Comp - A more athletic Fred Van Fleet who can actually score at the rim.
Reed better than Cam👀🚩 #CTE
Non-white comp for Reed: a somewhat more shooting oriented Chris Paul, their freshman stats are almost mirror images
I found it interesting that he's been training with Chris Paul. Chris Paul said he was impressed with his defensive effort and of course this shooting
This is very on-the-nose, but honestly Reed’s non-white comp is Fred VanVleet.
Reed Shepherd Comp: Smaller Derrick White
Reed Sheppard /Aaron Holiday
Didn’t know Aaron was such a sniper.
1Reed 2Tompson 3White
Jason terry
It’s crazy how I can respect Franks BBIQ but always disagree with him and his takes lol
Not really sure who would be Reed’s non-white comp would be. But if I had to guess, I would say a shorter Ray Allen with passing
DO NOT trade for a star over the age of 31.
Im hoping Reed can turn into a Nash type of player. His efficiency in college and basketball IQ gives me hope.
Non white comp: Joe Dumars
Dumars was elite on-ball defender. I don't see it
Comp - LSU/Denver Nuggets Chris Jackson
Asian comp: Jeremy Lin - Ivy League school, and not extremely athletic. High IQ, can’t play defense yet.
Non Caucasian Reed Shepherd comp...Tony Parker. Cheers ;)
Non white comp for Reed Sheppard: Dana Barros
Dude. YES! I had Mark Price and Dana Barros in the chamber for comps and went with Mark Price because...of the obvious reason. Lol. Dana Barros once scored 50 against the Rockets. Classic 90s hooper. --Roosh
@@StateOfTheRockets I remember that game.
Reed Sheppards comps is Payton Pritchard, TJ Mcconnell, or Jimmer Fredette. Stop comparing him to guys 6'4 and up or guys that actually played PG like Mark Price. This is a bad pick and we're trying to find away to justify it.
McConnell is not a 3 pt shooter. Fredette had 4 yrs of college & shot 40% from 3 - not 53%. Pritchard not exactly a good passer
Mark Price 2.0, and no not because he's white.
Jalen Green is Booker. Watch him this year he will prove it.
Yea yea, I’d hope so it’s year 4 we shall see brother.
once jalen green gets a max contract watch his numbers tank
I'm not a Jalen hater but I see us drafting reed as the jalen green replacement. I like jalen but I don't think he fits with what we want to do. He is not really a defensive guy, he has a lot to do to become a consistent and efficient scorer and he is not a primary facilitator.
He would be better on a more offensively minded team that will let him cook
Reed not replacing Jalen. If anybody replaces Jalen, it would be Cam
I meant replacing his spot in our core 6. Not his role on court. You're right Cam and amen basically already provide the athletics and shot creation that jalen should be providing
How? You don’t make sense. You sound like a Green Hater. Their skill set is completely different
I see Reed is a future point guard replace Fred when he leave.
White player=High IQ? The guy hasn't even played one game yet has been anointed having such great basketball knowledge
Scouts watch them play basketball, and when they make plays that ordinary players don't make (not based on athleticism), then that player is considered high IQ. Many smaller players like a VanVleet, Brogdan, or Curry that don't rely on crazy athleticism or length, need to have high basketball IQ to make it in the league. Knowing how to use your body to shield defenders, create shots, using angles and changing speed, knowing when to help on defense, awareness and anticipation. Many of the things they said about Curry, they're saying about Reed. There's a ton of draft busts that had great measureables and athleticism. Him being a high IQ player, has nothing to do with him being white.
They said that about Thompson too and they where right.
@@ericmausbach1808 They also tend to last longer in the NBA because injuries that slow them down don't cripple their game the way it does for guys who rely on burst and uber-athleticism.
The race card is so versatile, can be use in any situation.