WTC7 Simulation Evaluation - World Trade Center 7 Collapse Research Study

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  • čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
  • Simulated with completely new developed software designed for structural simulation, this revision of the old WTC 7 simulation attempt serves as validation case for the BCB software.
    New in this simulation compared to the old one:
    - Multiple constraints per connection are used to represent individual degrees of freedom (DOF)
    - Breaking thresholds are computed from real world parameters
    - Correct steel thicknesses and beam dimensions are used
    - Plastic deformation is now simulated
    While this simulation of World Trade Center 7 is still not 'perfect' it resembles much better the specific characteristics observed in the documentation of reality than the older model. This simulation confirms mostly the findings of NIST, it is safe to say that the columns 79 to 81 were the first columns which gave way because the removal of other columns led to much different collapses. More than that is hardly determinable, such a system behaves just to chaotic to tell what exact connection failed first. In this regard NIST might be wrong by declaring a specific failure point. However, I consider this not being an important question given the fact how compromised the structure around these three columns must have been exposed to fire for hours, a situation beyond any imaginable safety design specification.
    Having said that, I want to emphasize that this video is not intended to prove or disprove 9/11 conspiracy theories. I'm deleting comments that include hate speech, so you better think twice before starting an argument about the reasons of 9/11 here. Instead, I recommend to read a neutral source like: en.wikipedia.o... to get some pros and cons instead of watching CZcams videos.
    This is a private project. There are no third parties involved. There is no scientific report available. No peer review has taken place. Thanks for watching.
    Old simulations from 2014: • Early Attempt: Collaps...
    WTC 1 from 2011: • WTC Simulation - World...
    Simulation Stats
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    Element count: 28228
    Constraint count: 702962
    Simulation time: 10 h + 1 h building constraints
    Render time: real-time
    Model Specs
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    Group 'Concrete' mass: 100654 t and 93 kg
    Group 'Steel beams' mass: 22942 t and 844 kg
    Group 'Steel trusses' mass: 765 t and 292 kg
    Group 'Facade' mass: 4341 t and 782 kg
    Group 'Facade roof' mass: 147 t and 608 kg
    Total mass: 128851 t and 619 kg
    Credits & Links
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    Simulation and visualization by Kostack Studio
    kostackstudio.de
    3D software Blender: www.blender.org
    Simulated with Bullet Constraints Builder (BCB): github.com/Kai...
    Supported by Fracture Modifier build for better performance: blenderartists....
    Software developed within INACHUS: www.inachus.eu
    (Keywords: H2020, InvestEUresearch, EU-funded research, science)
    at Laurea University of Applied Sciences LUAS, Finland:
    inachuslaurea....

Komentáře • 17K

  • @Roughrideyy45
    @Roughrideyy45 Před rokem +1342

    Jesus Christ what’s up with the mania of “truthers” in the comment section. It seems like the majority of y’all can’t even argue actually factual information and choose to blindly follow random people on the internet who clearly are pseudo-intellectuals with 0 logical reasoning whatsoever instead of actually taking the time to look at officially published reports, witness statements, or just general knowledge on how structural collapses work.
    And I hate to say this again but an opinion is not a factual statement, therefore, stop making baseless claims about “cOnTroLlEd dEmOlItIon” when it’s VERY obvious that you have no logical reasoning or any evidence-citing skills whatsoever.
    Oh and the evidence that you try to prove your already baseless claim literally contradicts everything you just said.
    Jfc y’all you need to actually go back to school or something or go seek a therapist cause you REALLY need to seek help.

    • @matiasdiazduran5806
      @matiasdiazduran5806 Před rokem

      Funny stuff I found this good old gem that kinda spooks me out about this whole hoax thing :
      czcams.com/video/q638TUoHJU0/video.html&ab_channel=SDMTVUSA
      It looks to be a good student/ rookie reporter documentary but the taxi driver story is kinda sus :\

    • @fiscalonline9642
      @fiscalonline9642 Před rokem +2

      And you are stupid ...

    • @matiasdiazduran5806
      @matiasdiazduran5806 Před rokem +1

      ​@@fiscalonline9642 Here's one specially for you :) czcams.com/video/M1mcCBLU3tY/video.html&ab_channel=raspedine1
      @ 21:06 I guess jet fuel can melt steel beams after all . But don't take my word since I'm the stupid one. Also NIST said it was burnt debris and molten aluminum from the plane but aluminium dosen't glow bright orange at 1000F and burnt debris don't flow like water. All I was trying to say is that there are a few parts of the official story that don't add up. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • @hardyri
      @hardyri Před rokem +325

      You know you're right it wasn't demolition, must have been the bic lighters the dancing Israelis were using that did the deed,

    • @Roughrideyy45
      @Roughrideyy45 Před rokem +45

      @@hardyri lol

  • @barskarakas4927
    @barskarakas4927 Před 3 lety +2646

    Wtc7 is the first building in the history that collapsed due to sadness

    • @wells251080
      @wells251080 Před 3 lety +24

      Oh

    • @icrushchildrensdreams4556
      @icrushchildrensdreams4556 Před 3 lety +269

      It couldn’t stand its brothers dying so it had to die too

    • @CheeseMiser
      @CheeseMiser Před 2 lety +106

      Actually it was a hate crime, it didn't want any chance of any Muslims taking it down so killed itself

    • @freakyfornash
      @freakyfornash Před 2 lety +37

      Yeah, although it was like the first tower which stood so strong after initially being struck suddenly lost it's will to live after it's twin in Tower #2 literally bit the dust, considering it too went down a half hour later.

    • @user-xm7sx8it9e
      @user-xm7sx8it9e Před 2 lety +23

      Or will it have been out of sympathy, who knows. At least it wasn't because of fire.

  • @truthbetold4350
    @truthbetold4350 Před 4 lety +483

    I saw a lot of videos on World Trade Center 7 on the day it happened... This is not at all how it fell. It came straight down.

    • @davidroscoe3815
      @davidroscoe3815 Před rokem +143

      Exactly, it fell perfectly straight down into it's own footprint, as it should in a controlled demolition. It did not topple off to the side as in this BS simulation. Anyone with an analytical mind who spends time looking into the events of this day emerges a changed person.

    • @Goat_Lord
      @Goat_Lord Před rokem

      @@davidroscoe3815 no, not even a controlled demolition can do that. Where’s your common fucking sense?

    • @aqustks
      @aqustks Před rokem +8

      @@davidroscoe3815 I was definitely a changed person.

    • @josephguerriero3943
      @josephguerriero3943 Před rokem +29

      @@davidroscoe3815 So correct David---this was a crime scene. If people just study this with a little independent thought you will see, just by looking at the video and the sounds this was a planned, controlled demolition. Silverstein said he told the fire department to 'pull' the building because there was so much loss of life that day--that was the least he could do. And by the way, Silverstein missed his 8 am breakfast meeting in Tower 1 the day of 911; he never missed a breakfast up on the Windows of the World, except that day-he had an 8 am dermatologist appointment, because you know how those dermatologist have those 8 am appointments. Still his daughter that was suppose to meet him there that day to meet clients also didn't make it, but she did not have a dermatologist appointment; she just decided not to go; but the clients made it unfortunately. Its a classic free fall velocity speed and controlled demolition. The charges were set (and heard going off in sequence by fire fighters and on video) at 5 PM column by column so that there was no resistance below each floor. You can see the Penthouse collapse first on the top floor onto itself and then the other floors follow. How could columns on 3 and 4th floor cause the penthouse to collapse first at the top. Its ridiculous---the model doesn't match the video---maybe they should watch the video first and then create the model of how it collapsed. I checked the seismic activity in the area and nothing-----so maybe we may want to review this a bit.

    • @beru_official
      @beru_official Před rokem +19

      It’s literally coming straight down in this video lol

  • @TheHead9999
    @TheHead9999 Před 5 lety +880

    Who made this film, Silverstein productions?

    • @blyat4842
      @blyat4842 Před 5 lety +19

      Yes, and they're coming for you

    • @stevestars303
      @stevestars303 Před 5 lety +40

      Could be. He made enough profit with the Insurance policies he took out just before 911 to fund this crap. He probably pays the nameless trolls too that try and sell the Column 79 domino explanation you see here. NIST originated it and it took seven years for them to cook up this crock.

    • @psycheward3335
      @psycheward3335 Před 5 lety +8

      Aparently it was M Fitz ^^^^

    • @4465Vman
      @4465Vman Před 5 lety +1

      of course!

    • @sadiel6353
      @sadiel6353 Před 5 lety +2

      The maker of this video has not a clue what he is talking about either which is hilarious.

  • @meganandremmie33
    @meganandremmie33 Před 10 měsíci +75

    this was my Daddy's building. he is still here with us today, he made it out in time.

    • @scillyautomatic
      @scillyautomatic Před 10 měsíci +6

      That's good to hear. We had so many amazing stories of friends who survived because of strange situations - like a friend who would have been just above the impact point but he had to wait for a plumber that day. Someone should make a documentary about all those stories.

    • @op466_gaming9
      @op466_gaming9 Před 5 měsíci +1

      I'm glad to hear that your father made it and by the way you are beautiful

    • @Lisapreps
      @Lisapreps Před 4 měsíci +2

      Did anyone die in #7? I never remember hearing about that.

    • @alans5799
      @alans5799 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@Lisapreps according to barry jennings he stepped over bodies. He was also killed

    • @sinekonata
      @sinekonata Před 4 měsíci

      @@Lisapreps No, I think everyone was out before. But there's witness of explosions who was trapped but escaped. He died before he could witness though.

  • @IAmJasonii
    @IAmJasonii Před 5 lety +593

    Why do demolition company need explosives when all they have to do is set a fire and damage a few steel beams! Then wait for a few hours!

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 5 lety +53

      The collapse of Building 7 damaged 30 West Broadway across the street beyond repair. It had to be torn down. It also caused a billion dollars in damage to the Verizon Building next door which took 3 years to repair. Steel framed buildings in urban areas are dismantled, not explosively demoed for that reason.

    • @wayneflint8077
      @wayneflint8077 Před 5 lety +65

      But they used magic fire which is much stronger than your ordinary everyday fire. Magic fire can cut right steel and burn under ground without air for a three months. Didn't you know that!

    • @FUKTANGGAMING
      @FUKTANGGAMING Před 5 lety +3

      czcams.com/video/d1QdzKAlQaE/video.html

    • @FUKTANGGAMING
      @FUKTANGGAMING Před 5 lety +1

      czcams.com/video/YNDX3kr72-M/video.html

    • @FUKTANGGAMING
      @FUKTANGGAMING Před 5 lety +2

      czcams.com/video/qoOGGgiDOEs/video.html

  • @JulietsMan
    @JulietsMan Před 6 lety +550

    This doesnt even remotely resemble the actual collapse.

    • @tudorjason
      @tudorjason Před 4 lety +52

      How do you mean? See, you truthers always negate but rarely spend the time explaining your belief. According to vids of wtc 7 I've seen, it does match.

    • @kermitthemutantlevitatingf7836
      @kermitthemutantlevitatingf7836 Před 4 lety +17

      well, it's hard to see what the building looks like in real life while its collapsing because there's dust everywhere from two other collapsed buildings along with dust being created from parts of the collapsing building getting disintegrated. Also, I think it does look pretty accurate, as the first clip of this video shows.
      czcams.com/video/8WNk674LZrI/video.html
      As you can see, part of the top falls in several seconds before the rest of the building does, which indicates that the actual "building" part of the building is collapsing on the inside while the outer walls remain standing. You can even see the floors of the building collapse through the windows, I find this collapse quite interesting that even though the building has already begun to collapse, it's not obvious to somebody watching for several seconds.

    • @inkblot131
      @inkblot131 Před 4 lety +36

      @@tudorjason None is more blind than those who will not see. Please post a google search showing building 7 twisting and falling over. I'll go first; google video, 'WTC Building 7 collapse.' And, please, don't post a link to a computer-generated lie such as the one above.

    • @inkblot131
      @inkblot131 Před 4 lety +8

      @@kermitthemutantlevitatingf7836 That you see dust obscuring 'building, 7' proves that whatever it is you are looking at, it is most definitely NOT building 7.

    • @kermitthemutantlevitatingf7836
      @kermitthemutantlevitatingf7836 Před 4 lety +5

      @@inkblot131 ? I'm talking about the collapse creating dust, which obstructs other parts of the building, just like you see when the twin towers collapsed earlier, the parts of the building actually breaking apart are obstructed by dust that is created from pieces disintegrating. Simulations normally don't add in the dust so you can see the parts breaking apart. As for the actual video, it is very clear that the building collapsing is 7WTC

  • @KevinTheEditor
    @KevinTheEditor Před 5 lety +297

    This doesn’t match the footage

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 5 lety +29

      Of course it doesn't. It's a model. But the initiation through progression mechanisms do and that is what actually matters, not what the exterior moment frame was doing 10 seconds later.

    • @nicky85926
      @nicky85926 Před 4 lety +9

      Isn’t it funny you can only find simulations now and one video that shows the collapse but says it was “due to fires”

    • @aaronjohnson3478
      @aaronjohnson3478 Před 4 lety +4

      It matches the collapse the black thing collies first then the tower collapsed

    • @kifter4254
      @kifter4254 Před 4 lety

      Kevin Larsen czcams.com/video/IYUYya6bPGw/video.html

    • @courseworkdue
      @courseworkdue Před 4 lety +5

      Also funny how the emotional blackmail pinned comment at the top of this video doesn’t allow people to reply and it mainly similarly written emotional replies devoid of actual facts. They’re trying to get us to shut up about it but we never will.

  • @ianrs6310
    @ianrs6310 Před 2 lety +549

    The mental gymnastics required to rationalize #7 perfectly collapsing due to some small fires and superficial damage, is more impressive that the feat itself.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 2 lety +76

      How do you define "perfectly"?
      How do you define "small fires" and how does that compare to the actual fires reported in the real world event?
      How do you define "superficial" and how does that compare to the actual damage Building 7 is known to have suffered.
      My expectation BTW is that no meaningful response is coming. I have little doubt you won't disappoint.

    • @newjeffersonian6456
      @newjeffersonian6456 Před 2 lety

      @@MFitz12 How do you define $h!ll liar? I define it "M Fitz".

    • @coyotebones1131
      @coyotebones1131 Před 2 lety +14

      @@MFitz12 *whistles*

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 2 lety +21

      @@coyotebones1131 You do seem to enjoy Zombie threads. Feel free to actually contribute something of value at any time.
      If you can.

    • @hiphopanonymous9859
      @hiphopanonymous9859 Před 2 lety

      "World trade center 7 is the first known instance of a tall building falling primarily due to fires"
      The explanation given is weak and unsupported by evidence. As unsubstantiated as controlled demolition is in your opinion, the official story will always be less supported by evidence. I was part of those who believe the official conspiracy for a long time until I took a good hard look at the evidence, realizing there isn't any. Then I actually took the time to play devil's advocate and look into the evidence for conspiracy, it became obvious very quickly that I had been duped into putting blind faith in the official report. Simply does not stand up to basic scrutiny.

  • @neoexplains
    @neoexplains Před 7 lety +669

    Honest question with wish for honest answer: is'nt it inaccurate to simulate it with the building beeing completely empty. The weigh should be of because there was furniture in it and also in this simulation there are things missing from the building like the heavy elevator and walls inside the offices

    • @neoexplains
      @neoexplains Před 7 lety +99

      Nevertheless this is amazing work I just mean this as constructive feedback

    • @KaiKostack
      @KaiKostack  Před 7 lety +325

      This is true, adding live load is a desirable target for future revisions. This requires a bit more research and there are still some deficits in the software to deal with too. But the first large step is done.

    • @neoexplains
      @neoexplains Před 7 lety +57

      Kostack Studio thanks for the quick answer. Great work!

    • @glenweisgerber3476
      @glenweisgerber3476 Před 6 lety +8

      I really believe your splitting hairs with that comment.

    • @raf25985
      @raf25985 Před 6 lety +18

      hahahahhaha Furniture???! dude, thats like the weight of the flees on a dogs back.. it would not matter

  • @85bbenjaminfan
    @85bbenjaminfan Před 6 lety +256

    *Sigh* go watch the video footage of building 7 collapsing again, and when you generate a simulation that actually matches what we see in the footage, let me know. This looks nothing like the footage of the collapse

    • @stevestars303
      @stevestars303 Před 5 lety +12

      Right. New examination prove NIST is LYING. watch this: czcams.com/video/Xd7tqpwdlpQ/video.html

    • @AxelFuentesMusic
      @AxelFuentesMusic Před 5 lety +7

      It's way closer than NIST's simulation

    • @stevestars303
      @stevestars303 Před 5 lety +8

      @CoolNerd04 No. WTC 7 was there until 5:22 pm. and there was no substantial damage to WTC 7 to start a "flip flop" damage that NIST blames on column 79. Keep in mind also that BOMBS went off in WTC 7's lobby before the south tower (that exploded first) wen down. This is according the Mr. Hess and Barry Jennings who escaped from the building before all of this happened.

    • @harryheiniken5224
      @harryheiniken5224 Před 5 lety +3

      @@stevestars303 What the fuck are you doing over here? You ran away several times already after you were caught blatantly lying on the last 3 threads that you started and were hoping that I wouldn't come across. Do I need to start posting the accounts from Barry Jennings to prove that are a liar once more? I would strongly suggest you shut the fuck up because you have been caught many times now on this video jumping from thread to thread and posting what you *KNOW* are intentional lies to deceive as many people as you because for some reason you feel that its justified.

    • @MrKyle7424
      @MrKyle7424 Před 5 lety +5

      @@stevestars303 Oh really? you know for a fact that there were BOMBS that went off and not something else like a gas line or falling debris? According to two people who were in shock and full of adrenaline not completely sure of what was happening around them? You're a mouth breather, fuck off.

  • @blaubar
    @blaubar Před 6 lety +254

    This simulation does not fit to the original footage. Same problem we see at the NIST models. Reality ist obviously different.

    • @ojask9916
      @ojask9916 Před 5 lety +4

      Jan-Martin Mächler computers can get only to this level

    • @slamin2095
      @slamin2095 Před 5 lety +12

      It's better than ANY truther simulation

    • @4465Vman
      @4465Vman Před 5 lety +2

      @@slamin2095 sam the troll!!!!

    • @4465Vman
      @4465Vman Před 5 lety +3

      best truther "simulation" is "experts speak out" on CZcams !!

    • @slamin2095
      @slamin2095 Před 5 lety +1

      @@4465Vman Vlad thinks a falling body can't crush a larger body
      He has no evidence

  • @enmenduranna4552
    @enmenduranna4552 Před rokem +424

    This is very easily explained: the walls of the building were made of toilet paper reinforced with poorly glued toothpicks, and the fact that the building collapsed at the speed of free fall onto its own foundations is a miracle.

    • @Charlie-fu6ep
      @Charlie-fu6ep Před rokem +2

      It didn't collapse at free fall.

    • @enmenduranna4552
      @enmenduranna4552 Před rokem +13

      @@Charlie-fu6ep get yourself some glasses...

    • @groupisnear
      @groupisnear Před rokem +5

      Lol

    • @Charlie-fu6ep
      @Charlie-fu6ep Před rokem +18

      @@enmenduranna4552 Get yourself an education. It didn't collapse at free fall. Learn the definition of the words you parrot.

    • @enmenduranna4552
      @enmenduranna4552 Před rokem +68

      @@Charlie-fu6ep watch the real video, not these silly simulations, the building collapsed at the speed of free fall, vertically, directly on its own foundations... a perfect controlled demolition...

  • @tediousmaximus1067
    @tediousmaximus1067 Před 7 lety +86

    Nice computer graphics, but still does not look anything like the real collapse footage taken on the day. WTC 7 neatly collapsed into its own footprint and hardly touched the buildings along side it. Also, where are the elevators and stair wells?

    • @tediousmaximus1067
      @tediousmaximus1067 Před 5 lety +20

      @12weasel100 How would elevators and stair wells affect the results? Are you kidding me? They are some of the strongest parts of a building. You obviously don't know anything about architecture and engineering. The actual footage of the collapse shows the building falling straight down into its footprint. This computer simulation does not. It falls sideways and collapses on to another building. That did not happen on 9-11.

    • @stevestars303
      @stevestars303 Před 5 lety +1

      The Column 79 lie is exposed again as a NIST lie. watch this: czcams.com/video/Xd7tqpwdlpQ/video.html

    • @shanecassity3485
      @shanecassity3485 Před 5 lety

      @12weasel100 Your the Moron, look at all the comments loFl you are alone buddy haha bwahaha

    • @amyprecociouslake4806
      @amyprecociouslake4806 Před rokem +2

      How fast the building fell is the key! Dew? Direct en er! G y!!!! We @pond!!!!

    • @mroof523
      @mroof523 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Dawg it literally hit the front of the Verizon office across the street. If you actually look at the footage, the roof collapses in 10 seconds before the shell falls. Never seen a controlled demo like that.

  • @livingsoulquickeningspirit7355

    Was it super glued together? lol

    • @pearlmax
      @pearlmax Před 4 lety +23

      It's a simulation of all support structures failing simultaneously idiot. With that said, was the actual building superglued together?

    • @fuhwurd
      @fuhwurd Před 4 lety +15

      pearlmax its a joke, you dont need to be that dense

    • @farrjarr
      @farrjarr Před 4 lety +8

      @@pearlmax . Yes failed. Using demolition. .. nat a photocopier fire.. 💣💣💣💣💣💣.. all in sync.
      Did Silversteine pay for this.?
      It's useless.

    • @rexjantze296
      @rexjantze296 Před 4 lety +11

      The building was made with carrot sticks and honey glaze.

    • @danseabreeze1404
      @danseabreeze1404 Před 4 lety +7

      My first impression when I saw these towers go down was similar, "Were they held up by jelly?" I instantly knew there is NO WAY two tiny (by comparison) planes in contrast to these huge buildings was going to make them fail from top to bottom.

  • @theonlytrueorange4716
    @theonlytrueorange4716 Před 7 lety +509

    it went straight down, it didn't flop over

    • @theonlytrueorange4716
      @theonlytrueorange4716 Před 7 lety +109

      why so agressive

    • @ManAgainstCrime
      @ManAgainstCrime Před 6 lety +17

      The Only True Orange - Absolutely. But duhplunkers think the animation is right and the real thing is wrong. Duhplunkers are special.

    • @ManAgainstCrime
      @ManAgainstCrime Před 6 lety +19

      Kathryn Harris - Nobody cares if building 7 leaned to the south "towards the end". No surprise considering it's damage on that side. Many regular demolitions lean somewhat, particularly near the end (check them out). What building 7 didn't do, is flop over to the east. The Only True Orange is correct.

    • @harryheiniken5224
      @harryheiniken5224 Před 6 lety +5

      schmui It did Not fall. Completely straight down, it fell down at a slight angle, the east side leaning north and the West side leaning slightly to the south

    • @harryheiniken5224
      @harryheiniken5224 Před 6 lety +3

      Willy Whitten Why are you over here now babbling about something that I have already proved you wrong on? How does a floor system meant to hold a maximum of 1500 STATIC tons create and equal and opposite reaction to stop 100k tons of DYNAMIC force slamming into it? We already discussed this, you don't understand Newtons 3rd law, You're a fucking idiot.
      undicisettembre.blogspot.com/2014/02/why-world-trade-center-collapsed.html?m=1
      WTC 7 leaned in two seperate directions when it collapsed. The east side tipped slightly north and west side slightly to the south. So you didn't know this either, you really do not understand what you're talking about. I highly recomend you go to your local community college and enroll in some Physics courses.

  • @christopherrodarte9822
    @christopherrodarte9822 Před rokem +6

    Does this "simulation evaluation research study" explain why the fall of building 7 was reported before it actually happened even with building 7 standing behind the reporter ?

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před rokem

      Doesn't need to. The answer to that absolutely meaningless and pointless irrelevant question has been known for 21 years.

    • @marksavage1108
      @marksavage1108 Před 3 měsíci

      @@MFitz12 czcams.com/video/PK_iBYSqEsc/video.html

  • @MrRonaldoo54
    @MrRonaldoo54 Před 5 lety +153

    The wtc 7 came straight horizontal down not what you can see here

  • @MrChrisHynd
    @MrChrisHynd Před 7 lety +293

    Doesn't look like the footage from that day.

    • @lex.cordis
      @lex.cordis Před 6 lety +13

      Yep, and all the delusional idiots will just gobble this slop up with no problems and ask for seconds.

    • @gentbar7296
      @gentbar7296 Před 6 lety

      coldaziceee yep
      a boat load of chocking gob shit

    • @decimalexercise7154
      @decimalexercise7154 Před 5 lety +1

      Blake Hunt oh sure it would blake

    • @decimalexercise7154
      @decimalexercise7154 Před 5 lety +4

      Kaptein_kaos 100% doesnt

    • @PervySage13
      @PervySage13 Před 5 lety

      czcams.com/video/4LUDXpMhkNk/video.html

  • @matthewmeyer49
    @matthewmeyer49 Před 4 lety +324

    This looks nothing like what actually happened

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 4 lety +28

      Yes it does. You just need to know what it is you are looking at. Few people do.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 4 lety +2

      @Coolio - Von Hoolio - Yeah, you copied and pasted that already. Let's try thinking for a change and not relying on shitty YT videos made by morons and a heaping helping of personal incredulity and use actual facts instead. That would be fun. Gotta hurry up though. I'm on vacation in a bit over and hour.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 4 lety

      @Gus Lulu - Can I help you with something?

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 4 lety

      @Gus Lulu - You replied to me fucktard.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 4 lety

      @Gus Lulu I didn't know what the fuck you were on about. Still don't. I suspect neither do you. Please go away.

  • @robb6823
    @robb6823 Před 5 lety +8

    Why are all the videos of the collapse of WTC 7 disappearing off of CZcams?

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 5 lety

      All the ones I have saved (which is quite a few) are still extant. People like you keep making this claim while offering no evidence at all it is true. Fucking liar. Shame on you.

    • @tensevo
      @tensevo Před 7 dny

      i noticed that too,

    • @tensevo
      @tensevo Před 7 dny

      instead we will be left with BS simulations which "fit the narrative"
      get f**ked

  • @anthonyboyce8844
    @anthonyboyce8844 Před 4 lety +18

    Was wtc7 made out of match sticks?

    • @TomBennett1
      @TomBennett1 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Popsicle sticks. Lol.

    • @sinekonata
      @sinekonata Před 4 měsíci

      And dominoes, yes. No glue though, that would make for a rather sturdy structure, that's cheating.

  • @jesustyronechrist2330
    @jesustyronechrist2330 Před 3 lety +196

    So I'm a bit confused here:
    - How did you simulate the initial "collapse"? As in did you simulate softening of the steel by fires on the lower floors?
    - How does a lower floor collapsing make all the floors above it collapse? Does a floor collapsing rip apart the nearby structural column or what?
    - How likely is a building of this size to collapse this neatly due to the damage mentioned above?

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 3 lety +51

      -This model is agnostic as to initiating mechanism. For the purposes of the model it does not matter of that mechanism was fire, corrosion, metal fatigue, gross overloading, midgets with saws, harsh language or hush-a-boom sooper sekrit non-exploding explosives.
      -Sections of one floor, dropping 14 feet onto the floor below which was not designed for that gravity load will cause it to fail, joining the mass of falling debris down to the next, rinse and repeat. Remove enough floors and the column they are attached to will lose sufficient lateral support that it will buckle. If that column happens to be one which carries a disproportionate share of the gravity load for the structure due to the structures highly unusual design and load carrying requirements,...
      -100% likely since it actually happened.

    • @jesustyronechrist2330
      @jesustyronechrist2330 Před 3 lety +3

      @@MFitz12 Ok, thanks for the answers!
      Also, what was so "unusual" about WTC7's design and load carrying requirements? I did read that it had a bigger footprint than planned and they had to implement accommodation in the foundation, as well as the core being kinda off-centered.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 3 lety +22

      @@jesustyronechrist2330 - Really? Rather than a conventional box-grid sort of layout of evenly spaced columns, the original Building 7 was 47-story trapezoidal shaped tube-in-tube steel framed office tower built on top of an existing 3 story Con Edison electrical substation building of smaller footprint which served as its partial foundation. An odd shaped building built on top of another, smaller building which it overhung. Because the Cod Ed structure was designed to have a much smaller building built over it, Building 7 used a combination of existing and new caissons to carry the load. The 5th floor functioned as a structural diaphragm, providing lateral stability and distribution of loads between the new and old caissons. Transfer trusses were used on the 5-7th floors to redistribute load to the foundation. In other words, several floors were devoted to moving the gravity loads around. Thus Building 7 had unusual attributes including transfer beams and trusses and other load transfer techniques that allowed the building to be cantilevered out over the smaller perimeter of the Con Ed foundation. These attributes affected the qualitative and quantitative structural redundancy in the building. Specifically, unlike say a traditional grid frame structure, large visible portions of Building 7 depended on relatively isolated structural elements and when those elements were compromised, it affected a disproportionately greater fraction of the structure.
      Have you never looked at the floor diagram?

    • @cathyvaughan75
      @cathyvaughan75 Před 3 lety

      Simple once a major building collapses like the world trade centers did,the floors above have no foundation to stay intact

    • @seanworkman431
      @seanworkman431 Před 2 lety

      Fire will not melt steel and the simulation is based on research after the collapse. A controlled demolition is the only way to get a building to fall in it's own footprint.

  • @hootinouts
    @hootinouts Před rokem +12

    What is shown here is mere conjecture. The "simulation", if it can even be called that, does not even resemble the actual footage of the collapse. So you're going to tell me that every single bolted or welded joint in the structural steel let go without any resistance like the animation? Moreover, in the actual collapse, building 7 appears to sink down as one unit. There's no pancaking, twisting, or buckling that is perceptible. It is as though the entire structure just dropped into a hole.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před rokem

      Pancaking? Were you paying ANY attention at all

    • @danhughes3626
      @danhughes3626 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@MFitz12 pancake...what about the the whole heavy core in center
      That would be still there... building n 7... Dropped all at once
      It's the only conventional building
      To fall at same way....makes question uh. What was that...

  • @worldwidewonders681
    @worldwidewonders681 Před 4 lety +17

    But the problem with this simulation is that the building did not colapse like that

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 4 lety +2

      Sure it did. Collapse starts in the NE corner, with visible deformations and a vertical line of window breakage along the Column 79 line and a kink in the rooftop East Mechanical Penthouse roof. Collapse then progresses to columns 80 and 81 resulting in the EMP falling into the building. From there collapse progresses from east to west through the central core until the central core is gone, leaving just a hollow, empty shell still standing. Finally that empty shell does the only thing it can do and drops. That it twists a bit more in the Kostack model is of no significance.

  • @wayneflint8077
    @wayneflint8077 Před 5 lety +232

    There is only one problem when I compared this cartoon alongside the actual video it didn't match by a long shot.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 5 lety +9

      Which part? Collapse initiation phase? The transition phase from initiation to progression phase? The progression of the collapse from east to west through the core? Or just the last and least important bit, the drop of the exterior moment frame - just an empty shell by that point that was just going to do whatever it was going to do?

    • @skrounst
      @skrounst Před 4 lety +18

      Oh I didn't realize you had xray vision and could see what the inside of the building was doing in the 9/11 footage... The way the shell collapses is completely irrelevant after the interior was gone... The wind could have blown that over... Besides this is just a simulation where data is input into a computer, and a model is shown for visualization. If building 7 were to fall 20 different times it would have fallen 20 different ways.

    • @AmazeGames
      @AmazeGames Před 4 lety +1

      Really? czcams.com/video/KkKgLKyhqHk/video.html

    • @strop9331
      @strop9331 Před 4 lety +8

      @@MFitz12 This video does not match the Real World Event I saw broadcast on all the Networks. Did the real event fall slant over to one side as this clip shows?? Perhaps CNN cameras missed this vital moment?

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 4 lety +1

      @@strop9331 - The model matches all the important parts almost to a T. The trick is recognizing what the important bits are. The bit you are focusing on is the LEAST important bit, even if visually the most spectacular to the novice. Would you like to know why?

  • @chrisbarker5336
    @chrisbarker5336 Před 5 lety +4

    This doesn’t look like the same collapse. The outside of the building pretty much fell straight down and didn’t tilt to the side.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 5 lety

      Sure, but all of the truly interesting stuff happened on the inside. What happened to the exterior shell late in the collapse is of little consequence.

    • @chrisbarker5336
      @chrisbarker5336 Před 5 lety

      @@MFitz12 how have you determined that? Are you just assuming? The fact is you have no idea what was happening on the inside. What the video in the link.
      czcams.com/video/Xd7tqpwdlpQ/video.html
      These guys have been studying this for years. They have been trying to model how the building could have collapsed. The most likely outcome so far is it could not have just collapsed by fire. I think you underestimate just how strong a steal frame building is and the huge forces it would take to make it drop (free fall) like it did). That goes for the twins also.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 5 lety

      @@chrisbarker5336 - My eyes work and I understand the design and construction of the Building. It is all very plainly laid out in the model above. Even Hulsey agrees interior collapsed first, then exterior moment frame. You should try reading his report.
      PS
      I've been studying this for at least twice as long as Hulsey.

    • @levonparian6863
      @levonparian6863 Před 3 lety

      @@MFitz12 No it's of great consequence if you are supposedly creating an accurate simulation. This does not reflect the reality. So your simulation is flawed- period.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 3 lety

      @@levonparian6863 - Why is what happens to an empty shell at the very end of the collapse of great consequence? The building has already collapsed. What caused that collapse already done and gone.
      Also, not MY simulation.

  • @lukeslife2536
    @lukeslife2536 Před 2 lety +130

    if only the simulated collapse matched the real footage then i might of believed it

    • @Ruby_Ramone
      @Ruby_Ramone Před 2 lety +2

      Christopher Bollyn

    • @Goat_Lord
      @Goat_Lord Před rokem

      The NIST model literally matches up perfectly. Argument invalid, conspiracy retard.

    • @beru_official
      @beru_official Před rokem +1

      it does it shows you what happens when you cause failure at those joint does the structure collapse? YES so yes that's how it happened. They just have to show you where the damage was then add that damage to the simulation if the building comes down in the simulation proves the collapse happened because of the damage to those joints.

    • @hungryorphan5975
      @hungryorphan5975 Před rokem +14

      @@beru_official lol, you can watch the actual collapse it looks nothing like any model that has been made

    • @-First-Last
      @-First-Last Před rokem +3

      @@beru_official Woooooooooow .... You are sooooo smart.

  • @Rockstarstatus420
    @Rockstarstatus420 Před 3 lety +53

    Oh look!! there showing us how controlled demolition works without the explosives...

    • @dontgetdrunkandvomitonthes3880
      @dontgetdrunkandvomitonthes3880 Před 3 lety

      Not all controlled demolitions are done with explosives ----> ever seen a top down demo?

    • @genericdad6521
      @genericdad6521 Před 3 lety +2

      Just showing how the building fell, no mechanism for what started it given. That should tell u something.

    • @jonahmoran3751
      @jonahmoran3751 Před 3 lety

      @@genericdad6521 it was a domino effect one thing broke then it it multiple things to break then they caused more and more damage and etc until it spread through the whole building. I like this better than nist. Also, the whole building didn’t just collapse at once like the Alaska simulation. The roof started caving in in the original video you can see parts of the roof just vanish falling down then the exterior collapses.

    • @1godgodgodgodgod
      @1godgodgodgodgod Před 3 lety +1

      by flying a plane into a building next to it .. yes

    • @Louderboy.
      @Louderboy. Před 3 lety +1

      Just clam up dude you are embarrassing🙄

  • @nunnaurbiznez8815
    @nunnaurbiznez8815 Před 6 lety +151

    Although this seems to show ways in which WT7 could fail catastrophically, it does not show a view which exemplifies the the way it fell so evenly from both sides. Each view shows the inside failing with the outer walls falling together as a unit.

    • @rolandracebaitingmartin2262
      @rolandracebaitingmartin2262 Před 2 lety +5

      Exactly it was collapsing in a uniform fashion intil the top half of the tower hit the ground which naturally, since there was more damage on one side it fell to the side of least resistance.

    • @bartacomuskidd775
      @bartacomuskidd775 Před 2 lety +24

      It didnt. 1/3 of the building was gone, then it collapsed from a central point outward. You wanted it to be a conspiracy. Then insides fell, then the walls fell in. Just like any structure that load bearing elements have given way.

    • @nunnaurbiznez8815
      @nunnaurbiznez8815 Před 2 lety +21

      @@bartacomuskidd775 I'm not sure why you think I want a conspiracy, I'm just saying that the simulation doesn't really look like videos of the building falling down. Personally, I don't feel there is a government conspiracy but I do think that a lot of the way the ownership of the whole complex dealt with the situation as it happened and in the days following the event seem pretty shady.

    • @coolyoutubename16
      @coolyoutubename16 Před 2 lety +35

      @@bartacomuskidd775 "just like any structure" pffft. This is the ONLY steel high rise in history to ever fall from fire alone. It fell at free fall speed. Only a demolition can do that

    • @zachdorian925
      @zachdorian925 Před 2 lety +17

      For it to fall the way it did all the perimeter columns I believe 58 in total would have to collapse within a fraction of a second to produce the collapse we saw. I'm sorry but fire doesn't do that..

  • @sabreflak2215
    @sabreflak2215 Před 4 lety +26

    Pffffff fffftttttt!!! .... can you explain how the bbc said it had collapsed 30 minutes before it did on live air and then cut the live feed when they realised the building was still in the background....

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 4 lety +1

      It was 20 minutes and they were wrong. Add that to about a thousand other news reports that day which proved to be inaccurate. And no, they did not "cut the live feed when they realised the building was still in the background."
      Can you explain to me why conspiracy theorists feel the need to lie so blatantly like that? All you dumb fuckers do that. Do you think that makes your case more compelling?

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 3 lety +1

      @KrispyKrackers88 - Why are you on nearly every video on 9/11? Are you stalking me? Some kind of creepy weirdo?
      Curious you should make such a statement while responding to an 8 month old comment, so old I don't even remember making it.

    • @xpez9694
      @xpez9694 Před 3 lety +1

      @@MFitz12 Why so hostile? Only when you fear that someone may be right does some react with hostility. For example - What if I argued to tell you that the sky was green? How would you react? WOuld you say "FUCK YOU DUMB ASS, WHYARE YOU LYING??? WHATS WRONG WITH YOU??" or do you simply state" hey you are wrong, here is the evidence.GOogle it..and be done with it." All of this emotional attachment you bring to your argument only means you fear the truth is closing in on you and you have no where else to hide...So, like a racoon, caught in the backyard you turn vicious and full of vitriol its your only escape from reality.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 3 lety

      @@xpez9694 If that is what you need to feel better, have at it. Have a nice day.

    • @xpez9694
      @xpez9694 Před 3 lety +1

      @@MFitz12 YES ITS WHAT I NEED TO TOP YOUR DUMB HOSTILE BULLSHIT. FEEL BETTER ALREADY!!!

  • @toy2day1
    @toy2day1 Před 5 měsíci +7

    Controlled demolition. Trust your eyes.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 5 měsíci +3

      What about your ears?

    • @tensevo
      @tensevo Před 7 dny

      No, reject the evidence of your own eyes

    • @Bog_dweller72
      @Bog_dweller72 Před dnem

      ​@@MFitz12in most videos of wtc sevens collapse the audio is completely cut until after the building has fallen indicating that they were hiding the sounds of the explosions and plenty of eye witness from that day say they heard explosions moments before its collapse and this was hours after towers 1 and 2 fell so there would be no sounds of falling debris or anything that simulates an explosion besides an explosion

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 22 hodinami

      @@Bog_dweller72 - How about this video? czcams.com/video/3PC3HWdUPHU/video.html
      I would consider the audio and video quality excellent.
      Let me know if you find any witnesses to those incredibly silent explosions. Names, sources, full quotes, etc,...

  • @mikeklassic78
    @mikeklassic78 Před 4 lety +27

    A simulation is supposed to mirror an actual event...an if i remember correctly wtc 7 fell STRAIGHT DOWN IN 1 PIECE....NOT PIECES!

    • @jonahmoran3751
      @jonahmoran3751 Před 3 lety +5

      Wrong watch this video please it didn’t fall down at once. Look closely at the roof. And then count how many seconds it takes for the exterior to collapse after the section of the roof goes and compare it to here

    • @jonahmoran3751
      @jonahmoran3751 Před 2 lety +1

      @KSI ♪ . That video isn’t the “full” video This video shows what I’m taking about. czcams.com/video/e32QMAwYXmE/video.html and what I mean by that is that a large structure on the roof collapses into the roof. This could only happen if there was nothing below to support it. So why did your video skip the penthouse falling through the roof? Which happened 6 seconds before the exoskeleton finally collapsed. why didn’t include evidence that supports that the collapse initiation started before the exterior collapses? Also to start a good investigation that will get you somewhere you need to follow some steps. First. You need to start at the official theory. And look for evidence that supports and doesn’t supports it. Then you look at theories that say different things and look if there’s evidence with real facts. And the two most important things you need to remember is not to read something because it says what you want to hear. You need to read everything unbiased. And the other most important part is recognizing Occam’s razor which means the simplest solution is most likely correct. Not every time. But usually. Also my reply earlier was kinda rude. If you don’t start at the same facts as everyone else you won’t even get anywhere. That’s how you investigate something

    • @jonahmoran3751
      @jonahmoran3751 Před 2 lety

      Also the video you posted never showed the other side of the building.

    • @tensevo
      @tensevo Před 7 dny

      @@jonahmoran3751 the "official story" doesnt know what to do about building 7. it is a total anomaly.

  • @motinaja
    @motinaja Před 4 lety +83

    University of Alaska, Dep of Engineering, prof Hulsey has spent years making a digital model that will only collapse with explosives. He has published his model- NIST would never publish their model and yet they could not even make a fake simulation that resembled what we see: A building going straight down.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 4 lety +7

      Correction: One obscure professor and (for a short time) a couple of grad students did a fairly low-rent and quite limited analysis of the collapse of Building 7. Nowhere in the final report this project produced does it say anything about explosives, let alone that only explosives could have caused the collapse. Hulsey merely admitted that he could not - after studying just one limited scenario - make the building collapse from fire (therefore it could not have collapsed from fire). That alone should tell you how much stock to put in the Hulsey report.
      At least 4 other engineering studies have been done of the collapse of Building 7, all done by teams of far more experienced and qualified individuals working with much greater resources. All of those concluded the collapse was due to fire.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 4 lety +1

      Yet another drive by truthing. Always a successful tactic.

    • @jamespenny9482
      @jamespenny9482 Před 2 lety +25

      @@MFitz12 Listen clown, the building can't fall at free fall acceleration unless the steel is taken out, *PERIOD*. I don't give a rodent's posterior about how many "far more experienced and qualified individuals" have studied it if they contradict that basic fact.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 2 lety +5

      @@jamespenny9482 Listen clown, "the building" (defined as its center of mass) did not descend at a sustained rate of GA at any point during its collapse.
      You've been had.
      Also, more than one way to achieve an acceleration of 9.8 m/s/s. You need to think outside the box.
      Or think.

    • @gm2353
      @gm2353 Před 2 lety

      @@MFitz12 is it possible that the "experts" that are hired by the government are liars?

  • @Tom-uv7ry
    @Tom-uv7ry Před 6 lety +29

    I thought the owner admitted they pulled the building so what's with all the simulation

    • @KaiKostack
      @KaiKostack  Před 6 lety +3

      Even if he would have wanted that, it is impossible to demolish a building within a day, especially a burning one.

    • @Tom-uv7ry
      @Tom-uv7ry Před 6 lety +1

      Kostack Studio fair point

    • @Dewotto
      @Dewotto Před 6 lety +8

      It was the fire department who said *pull it* to Silverstein, in which they meant to pull the rescue mission inside the building as they noticed the weakened structural integrity of the building.

    • @Dewotto
      @Dewotto Před 6 lety +4

      Thanks for your biased, uninformed input you anti-semetic fucktwig.

    • @Dewotto
      @Dewotto Před 6 lety +4

      Why do you bigoted truthtards always prove my fucking point in the first reply?

  • @jamespenny9482
    @jamespenny9482 Před 2 lety +11

    This video shows what the collapse would look like if it was initiated by the failure of column 79 and it doesn't look anything at all like the actual collapse footage which shows the building being expertly dropped into it's own basement. For WTC 7 to fall the way it did, all the columns would have to have been "taken out" at the same time, because as the footage shows, the steel structure gave NO resistance to the fall.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 2 lety

      Building 7 did not have a basement. In fact, it was built on top of a pre-existing 3-story building - a Con-Ed electrical substation - which served as part of Building 7's foundation.
      Since you got something that fundamental so completely wrong, what else did you cock up? How would you know?

    • @nywherebuthere
      @nywherebuthere Před 8 měsíci

      Noone cares anymore. They know they can do anything. And in a few years. You will forget all about it. Now tik tok

  • @otherdimensionss
    @otherdimensionss Před 6 lety +5

    I will go into demolition business. I never knew that to demolish a building, all you have to do is put fire in one of the floors

    • @americanmale2011
      @americanmale2011 Před 5 lety

      If only taking down a 47 story building were so simple

  • @damianodamian633
    @damianodamian633 Před 5 lety +85

    Fake
    IT was demolition

    • @davidhusband5022
      @davidhusband5022 Před 5 lety +4

      lol prove it then. nobody notice people rigging it ? you know long it takes to set up the gear to bring down a building? man you must be dumb.

    • @adamfolta4408
      @adamfolta4408 Před 5 lety +8

      david husband You are dumb if You think that was not a demolition.

    • @gatogaming6093
      @gatogaming6093 Před 5 lety +1

      How you know it was not a demolition is because you fucking idiots don’t realize that the people who witnessed all of this saw airplanes flying into the tower. Enough criticizing the people who are thinking the right way. Unlike you saying that basically the government secretly demolished the building.

    • @Brian-gx7yx
      @Brian-gx7yx Před 5 lety +8

      @@gatogaming6093 NO VIDEO OF TERRORISTS
      NO VIDEO OF A PLANE AT THE PENTAGON
      NO JET FUEL GROUND CONTAMINATION AT PENTAGON OR SHANKSVILLE
      NO WRECKAGE AT SHANKSVILLE
      NO FIRE AT SHANKSVILLE
      DEBRIS 8 MILES AWAY
      IMPOSSIBLE PLANE SPEEDS AND ACROBATIC MANEUVERS
      OVERWHELMINGLY OBVIOUS FALSE FLAG OPERATION AS OUTLINED IN THE PNAC LITERATURE
      NIST COVER-UP
      PENTAGON COVER-UP
      COMMISION REPORT COVER-UP, WHITEWASH, UNDERFUNDED, DELAYED
      FBI COVER-UP
      BUSH LYING
      CHENEY LYING
      RUMSFELD LYING
      RICE LYING
      KISSINGER RESIGNS, CONFLICT OF INTEREST
      ACCUSED TERRORIST STILL ALIVE
      BIN LADEN NEVER PROVEN TO BE INVOLVED
      IMPOSSIBLE PHONE CALLS FROM PLANES
      IMPOSSIBLE PLANE SPEED
      MINETTA TESTIMONY
      NO JET INTERCEPTORS
      PENTAGON TRILLIONS
      WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION
      ANTHRAX AMES STRAIN LINKED TO U.S.
      MILITARY GRADE NANO-THERMITE
      FIRE BURNING OVER 3 MONTHS
      MOLTEN METAL
      NUMEROUS WHISTLEBLOWERS
      ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS
      FIREFIGHTERS
      MEDICS
      POLICE
      PILOTS
      MEDIA
      THOUSANDS OF WITNESSES
      PICTURES
      VIDEOS
      EXPLOSIONS
      ILLEGAL TORTURE
      FREE FALL
      PULL-IT
      PUT OPTION INSIDER TRADING LINKED TO WHITE HOUSE
      EPA
      AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON INTO EVERY ASPECT OF 9/11
      reasonable doubt
      just a little

    • @Brian-gx7yx
      @Brian-gx7yx Před 5 lety +2

      @Christian DiPaola All owned by 0ne person and no other building collapsed, just the buildings owned by Larry

  • @MikeAnthony2007
    @MikeAnthony2007 Před 6 lety +29

    Each individual piece of the sim only becomes detached. The build of each individual piece doesn't break down further than that. My point... nothing breaks bends or shatters in this simulation it just becomes detached.

    • @donaldbiden1920
      @donaldbiden1920 Před rokem +3

      That's because it is simulating reality. Steel can't shatter in a building, it heats up and comes apart at connections.

  • @aimurphy7196
    @aimurphy7196 Před 2 lety +7

    In regards to WTC-7...it was a dead giveaway that it was a Controlled Demolition. You have to weaken the staircases and elevator shafts first which are specialized hardened structures. They blew them out therefore the WTC-7 penthouse collapsed first losing it's footing. The penthouse may not have been directly above 8 elevator shafts of WTC-7 but it was above them including staircases. Then the bowing was there...the inner structure going down just before the outer structure to contain the debris. Then outer structure was observed to collapse on all sides pretty much in unison and that's a synchronized collapse. Finally...a freefall acceleration phase confirmed. There you have it...the globally synchronized collapse! And a few columns can't initiate this event. It's done by finely timed demolition devices set throughout the building acting in milliseconds.

    • @newjeffersonian6456
      @newjeffersonian6456 Před 2 lety

      Here's a video that confirms almost everything you said:
      czcams.com/video/gNIzC4a8rLs/video.html

    • @Viagra_risk_PERMANENT_insomnia
      @Viagra_risk_PERMANENT_insomnia Před 2 lety

      Controlled demo buildings don't free fall, they collapse at near gravity 9.81m^2. Free fall is dropping.. NOT collapsing or imploding etc...

  • @jasong2546
    @jasong2546 Před 7 lety +81

    Neat simulation. You need the top to drop straight down though, not tilt to one side. It drops straight down at full ffa for about 8 stories, make it like that.

    • @Putsky1342
      @Putsky1342 Před 2 lety +9

      make it like that... (great scientific process)

    • @skaford
      @skaford Před 2 lety +5

      Not one can recreate it... Only using explosives is the way... But they try and try to explain it with the same lies... I have been telling all the people that defends this ideas... Could you recreate the world trade center with wood... Use and antorch over 15000 centigrades degrees and show me twice... How it will fall 90 degrees perfect.. Not one can.... Fire doesn't produce it...

    • @nerradnosnhoj5122
      @nerradnosnhoj5122 Před 2 lety +5

      @@skaford thing that folks do not understand is tha temps they tell you jet fuel burns at is the combustion temp , not the temp if it is spilled out of a container onto carpet and roof tile etc then lit ...... temps inside an engine combustion chamber are way higher than just open burning flame

    • @weknowthetruth6070
      @weknowthetruth6070 Před 2 lety +2

      @@skaford planes did crash , but bombs were placed ..this goes back to money and war ..we trained bin laden we made a Enemy we could control this plan is beyond our understating it’s like a game of chess and that day a big move was made ..they can try and sell lies after lies ..but the truth can never ever Be known ..the US can’t say they killed innocent Americans , train a guy , then label them ..

    • @dwightrenfield2241
      @dwightrenfield2241 Před 2 lety

      If that’s even true, that heat would not be exist for long. And all the fuel was spent right after the impact. Sustained fires from paper and office furniture can’t melt steel.
      The fires in 7 weren’t even that big.
      There were so many different accounts - I remember a few stories on the news stating that 7 was brought down intentionally, for safety, due to damage because some rubble from the twin towers hit it.

  • @silvanodegennaro4642
    @silvanodegennaro4642 Před 2 lety +24

    If the collapse/melting of 3 pillars can cause the whole building to come down like a house of cards, I am never walking in a high rise building again. Besides, your simulation confirms AE4truth's position that asymmetrical damage causes an asymmetrical fall. Have you tried running the same simulation but with a symmetrical failure on the other side? does the building collapse look more like the real thing then?

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 2 lety +1

      That is an incredibly ignorant statement.

    • @screenarts
      @screenarts Před rokem

      They don't, we would have see it many times before if steel buildings suffered from instant collapse. Termite residue and microscopic iron balls and sulfer found all through the dust. The well connected new owner of the wtc, double insured the complex for terrorism. We all know there was prior knowledge of the comming attacks. Abestos filled only 60% occupied losing money. Lmfao!

    • @calvinrovinescu6166
      @calvinrovinescu6166 Před rokem +3

      Champlain Towers in Surfside, FL is an example of how a single failure can bring most of if not all of a building down

    • @RobertLock1978
      @RobertLock1978 Před rokem +3

      @@MFitz12 Kaching!!! How much you get per comment?

    • @akiracornell
      @akiracornell Před 6 měsíci

      There was no melting of 3 pillars. This collapse theory was based on thermal expansion of one beam pushing an adjacent beam off of column 79. But absolutely, where was the Resistance from all of the adjacent structure? All of the bolted and welded connnections. plus the model did not include the sheer studs from the cross beams into the concrete flooring that also ties it all together. But you're right this theory acts literally like a house of cards.

  • @zaftra5126
    @zaftra5126 Před 3 lety +6

    Why didn’t they show the charges and the point of detonation?

  • @lavernadavey1742
    @lavernadavey1742 Před 2 lety +37

    In actual footage of the buildings collapse you can actually see the exterior near the roof bend into a v shape before collapsing, there's also another tape showing the back of the building collapsing, in that footage you could see the building tilt before hitting the ground.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 2 lety

      It doesn't turn to dust.

    • @lavernadavey1742
      @lavernadavey1742 Před 2 lety +2

      @@MFitz12 I know it doesn't, it just looks like it in the footage 😅

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 2 lety +1

      @@lavernadavey1742 - Obscured by dust and smoke.

    • @JTV84
      @JTV84 Před rokem

      link?

    • @africanlipplateandbonenose3223
      @africanlipplateandbonenose3223 Před 9 měsíci

      We already know this was a demolition because we are aware of the israeli mossad involvement with the entire wtc compelex via gelatin, e-team (b-thing), dancing israelis, PNAC, Clean break memo, etc.

  • @ThaJoshynator
    @ThaJoshynator Před 4 lety +5

    Have you considered the possibility that NIST's collapse theory is incorrect and that's why neither you nor NIST could create a simulation that resembled the actual collapse?

    • @KaiKostack
      @KaiKostack  Před 4 lety

      Yes, but our simulations represent reality quite good for the technological limitations we are still facing. With more computing power and better numeric solvers simulations will continue to improve over time.

    • @ThaJoshynator
      @ThaJoshynator Před 4 lety +4

      @@KaiKostack A better theory will improve your simulation.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 4 lety

      @@ThaJoshynator - By all means bring it then. If you could you would be the first.
      In 19 years,...

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 4 lety

      @@ThaJoshynator - I have neither the means nor the skill.

    • @ROBMCKISSOCK
      @ROBMCKISSOCK Před 4 lety

      @@MFitz12 don't worry bro , I got this

  • @AkiraSendoh7
    @AkiraSendoh7 Před 6 lety +162

    I thought Silverstein pulled this lol.

    • @mygetawayart
      @mygetawayart Před 6 lety +6

      that's what conspiracies lead you to believe. Be smarter than them.

    • @PedroAntonioLea-PlazaPuig
      @PedroAntonioLea-PlazaPuig Před 6 lety +46

      @@mygetawayart Silverstein said it himself actually

    • @mygetawayart
      @mygetawayart Před 6 lety +8

      @Occultist Aperta pull the NYFD away from the building otherwise they would have DIED. You conspiracy theorist make me gag, you gotta be really dumb to really believe in this sort of crap.

    • @mygetawayart
      @mygetawayart Před 6 lety +5

      Occultist Aperta pull the contingent, or group of firemen away from the building. And it's his building, i don't know if it was his authority or not but the building was already been evacuated, they were only searching in case any other had remained inside. He deemed that operation inconclusive and just decided that it wasn't worth sacrificing more firemen that day, suggesting to get them to safety, watching, a few minutes later, the building collapse.

    • @keithcausey
      @keithcausey Před 6 lety +8

      He's on record saying so - you have youtube - you can look it up! It's actually there.

  • @deepthought9906
    @deepthought9906 Před 7 lety +50

    It Looks like a house of cards: No elements attached to each other?! Only a Simulation ....

    • @danielgorzel7222
      @danielgorzel7222 Před 5 lety +2

      a bad one to say the least.

    • @billyosullivan4514
      @billyosullivan4514 Před 5 lety

      They were just not visually.

    • @quantumleap4023
      @quantumleap4023 Před 5 lety +5

      Yeah it's weird how the steel just ripples and falls apart like a weak set of scaffolding blown over in the wind...

    • @DR_socal
      @DR_socal Před 5 lety +5

      My thought exactly, the steel bracing just quit? That's absolute bullshit.. there have been buildings with bombs go off inside of them and the steel remains intact.
      This simulation is way the hell off.

    • @Viggebob
      @Viggebob Před 5 lety +1

      cauz its bullshit of some kiddo brain. THE VICTIMS DESERVE THE TRUTH!!!! Also all NATO PARTNERS WHO WENT TO WAR FOR THIS SHITSTORY

  • @thomasmyers9128
    @thomasmyers9128 Před rokem +40

    Demolition crew couldn’t have done a better job 😳

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před rokem +1

      But they didn't.

    • @awc222
      @awc222 Před rokem +2

      Fritzbergsteinowitz seems to agree with the narrative 100% Give him a big Shalom and leave him be...

    • @padseven
      @padseven Před rokem +1

      @@MFitz12 SHALOM>>>>>>>

    • @Goat_Lord
      @Goat_Lord Před rokem

      Moron

    • @-First-Last
      @-First-Last Před rokem

      @@MFitz12
      You :
      " - The steel in none of the buildings wasn't melted like butter so I don't need to explain anything about things that did not happen."
      ......
      "I am more than happy to discuss actual true and relevant facts but there isn't even a place to begin here. You are so not even wrong the only recourse is for you to completely forget everything you think you know and start over clean slate."
      So what was that bright orange LIQUID FLOW ???
      Let's "start over clean slate"
      You might not know the meaning of words. That would be a very long way to bring yourself up to date, to the rest of the people's universal understanding of them. Assuming you went already to those years of school. (or maybe not ?)

  • @e002840
    @e002840 Před 7 lety +183

    Now I'd like to see a controlled demolition simulation for comparison purposes only. Great job though.

    • @Volksdemenz
      @Volksdemenz Před 6 lety +1

      Rodrigo Guimarães Is this simulation meant to confirm or refute the official version?

    • @smitty121981
      @smitty121981 Před 6 lety +9

      He will never do it because he is a coward

    • @graemerobertson7771
      @graemerobertson7771 Před 5 lety

      czcams.com/video/8U4erFzhC-U/video.html

    • @rayesposito9642
      @rayesposito9642 Před 5 lety +9

      I would like to know how a controlled demolition was even mentioned and originally by whom, it would have taken days even weeks to drill all the holes to place the explosives, not to mention miles and miles of wiring, where was the detonation point , and once again by whom, so what actually is being implied here is mass murder by some say the American government, it beggars belief that thousands of people died in horrible circumstances and yet conspiracy rubbish comes before the footage of two, count them two planes which struck the towers..

    • @4465Vman
      @4465Vman Před 5 lety

      yup

  • @pebueno1980
    @pebueno1980 Před 8 měsíci +5

    That's not how the building collapsed. They'll think people are stupid

    • @sinekonata
      @sinekonata Před 4 měsíci

      Part of it is underestimating us intellectually, but most of it is just trying to intimidate us.

  • @bdennisv
    @bdennisv Před 2 lety +3

    Looks like a perfect demolition!
    This cartoon is not reflected the reality (
    On actual field side tape that captures the collapse of building 7, looks like the top of the building collapsed straight down and all at once. It was commented later buy a structural engineering that the footage shows the building too collapsed at free fall speed, like there was no structural underneath to support it. Just like a demolition then all or most support columns are strategically blown up from bottom to the top so the gravity complete the job.
    Also, this cartoon shows that all walls of the building was pushed outside on the bottom of the building and then collapsed at ground level. In reality, exterior walls on the bottom of building 7 was standing (bottoms floors), then the rest of the building was acutely collapsed inside as only interior structural was compromised.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 2 lety

      What does a "perfect demolition" look like?
      Why?
      What does a building collapsing look like with no pre-planned demolition?
      The Kostack model collapse mechanisms are accurate. Interior of the building fails first, then the hollow empty shell that remained on the outside dropped. Who cares how fast that hollow empty shell drops? Why does that matter? There was no support under it. The inside of the building (the support for the moment frame) was long gone. It's right there in the model.

  • @miabrandt1926
    @miabrandt1926 Před rokem +34

    this looks completely different from reality ...

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před rokem +2

      Well yes, because this model shows everything that is out of view in the real world event - which is almost the entire collapse.

    • @johart309
      @johart309 Před rokem +2

      @@MFitz12 look at you coming here the whole 5 years defending whenever its needed like a lap dog. good boy

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před rokem +2

      @@johart309 - Well that was pathetic.
      Do let us know if you should ever manage to come up with anything of value or substance to add to the discussion.
      I won't wait up.

    • @jstormclouds
      @jstormclouds Před 2 měsíci

      did anyone do a WTC7 simulation as per a typical controlled demolition? The 23 vids of collapse look like a controlled demolition.

    • @PpAirO5
      @PpAirO5 Před měsícem +1

      Agree. Unless somethings wrong with those cameras shooting while it collapsed. The building seemed more or less "plane" as it went down, like a controlled demolition. Not like on this video.

  • @CalvinAtkinsGodlovesme78887

    As if all the internal structures were gone when it fell

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 2 lety

      You mean the exterior moment frame? Yes, all of the internal structures failed in sequence as shown in this model before the then hollow empty outer shell collapsed. Just like the model shows.

  • @xxdigitaldeathxx
    @xxdigitaldeathxx Před 3 lety +5

    This is probably the most inaccurate reconstruction I’ve ever seen.. how is this still on CZcams? This looks nothing like what happened to WTC 7 at all... disliked

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 3 lety +2

      Not a reconstruction. It's a model designed to test mechanisms, not an artistic photo realistic rendering. Big difference.
      What seems to be the problem? I find all the important bits very accurate, only the unimportant but visually more spectacular bits less so.

    • @blyat4842
      @blyat4842 Před 3 lety

      Bro I just think you just got your worldview rocked and you're upset about it. If you actually watch the UNEDITED version you will see the penthouse collapse.

  • @boycottglobalism2073
    @boycottglobalism2073 Před 6 lety +9

    Interior of the building is falling like it's a house of cards. That's simply not how steel frame structures react. An actual steel structure would put up much more resistance than what's shown in this video.
    If you want to see an actual scientific explanation of what happened (or what didn't happen, I should say), check out the work of Professor Leroy Hulsey of the University of Alaska.

  • @joepromedio
    @joepromedio Před rokem +20

    It's amazing how many people think they are structural engineers because they watched a video.

    • @tediousmaximus1067
      @tediousmaximus1067 Před 3 měsíci +6

      Including people like you.

    • @lightbeforethetunnel
      @lightbeforethetunnel Před 2 měsíci +1

      It's amazing how many people think you need credentials from academic institution to see that a building clearly fell straight down, just like a controlled demolition. No fancy sounding credentials are needed - only basic intellectual honesty is.

  • @mustardpuddle
    @mustardpuddle Před rokem +70

    Maybe someday we'll be able to model things like this in real-time. Call me weird but I'm so fascinated by this sort of thing that I'd love to be able to set up a simulation of this sort and just watch it do its thing.

    • @kenmaruska5818
      @kenmaruska5818 Před rokem +1

      Model in real time??? Not sure what that implies. The geometry and materials have to be accurately defined for a finite element assessment to be accurate. I would not trust the comic book like analysis results of the truther 9/11 report they paid for from Fairbanks Alaska University (two of the 3 structural experts were Chinese nationals on education visas) that was peer reviewed by two guys in their mid 80s.

    • @mattaddison1910
      @mattaddison1910 Před rokem +4

      You'll have to wait for quantum computing. Simulating each particle in such a large scale simulation would take astronomical processing power. Classical computers cannot keep up with such a demand, it would take thousands of years. On a quantum computer it would take an hour, tops.

    • @kenmaruska5818
      @kenmaruska5818 Před rokem

      @@mattaddison1910 The 9/11 Truther simulations are cartoonish and some believe they prove WTC7 was brought down via controlled demolition. While I don't believe everything the government says, I think the chances that the CIA was behind 9/11 is very very unlikely. The terrorists got lucky to have that level of impact and opened the door for a lot of conspiracies like the claims pushed by the 9/11 Truthers.

    • @stickyplantains
      @stickyplantains Před rokem

      Man idfk

    • @tensevo
      @tensevo Před 7 dny

      you can go and look at buildings collapse due to fire, and controlled demolition

  • @sorcerykid
    @sorcerykid Před 4 lety +128

    Could you please do a 3D simulation of the Deutsche Bank Building standing strong after the August 2007 fire? That would be really impressive to see.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 4 lety +1

      That would be boring. Now St. Nicholas Church could be fun.

    • @sorcerykid
      @sorcerykid Před 4 lety +6

      @@MFitz12 Really? What is mysterious or odd about a masonry low-rise building constructed in 1832 as a private residence being buried in hundreds of tons of rubble that requires examination? That building was obviously doomed.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 4 lety +3

      @@sorcerykid - I just said it could be fun. The loss of St. Nicholas Church is no more a mystery than the loss of Bankers Trust. Studying either with models will do nothing to further the cause of improving building safety.

    • @sorcerykid
      @sorcerykid Před 4 lety +6

      @@MFitz12 If the Deutsche Bank building was designed in such a way that it can withstand a sustained, uncontrolled fire with no working standpipe that WTC7 could not by its design, then yes it will go a long way to improving building safety. Saying that it won't is completely disingenuous.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 4 lety +1

      @@sorcerykid - Are you talking about 9/11/2001 or the Aug 18, 2007 fire during deconstruction by which time the building had been emptied and reduced down to the 26th floor?

  • @brentcook2261
    @brentcook2261 Před rokem +5

    Building 7 free fell onto it’s own footprint. Only NYC has buildings that can be brought down by a few office fires. Impressive!

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před rokem +3

      Was Fiterman Hall or the Verizon Building in Building 7's footprint? If not, how did both sustain so much damage from the collapsing Building 7?

    • @nywherebuthere
      @nywherebuthere Před 8 měsíci

      Most of the fuel would flash burn collapsing twin tower walls. Not iron I beams especially with central air. The induction vents would starve the flame of air.

    • @nywherebuthere
      @nywherebuthere Před 8 měsíci

      Central air is meant to remove room exhaust. Seem to me a engineer and a HVAC guy should have got together and solved this whole mystery like Scooby Doo. But the culprit is incinerated so no mask reveal.

    • @nywherebuthere
      @nywherebuthere Před 8 měsíci

      Apparently they found " the main hijackers" passport unburnt "on the neighboring block"

    • @nywherebuthere
      @nywherebuthere Před 8 měsíci

      However many hundred of feet under the plane crash

  • @zache.1226
    @zache.1226 Před 3 lety +6

    Are you ever going to redo you’re collapse of the Twin Towers simulations?

  • @stanjohnson7754
    @stanjohnson7754 Před rokem +93

    Superb modeling. Major props to the people who worked so hard to put that together.
    It's a shame that the simulation doesn't quite match the footage, but we're all human.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před rokem +7

      It's a model, not a photo-realistic artistic rendering. All the important stuff is there.

    • @stanjohnson7754
      @stanjohnson7754 Před rokem +13

      @@MFitz12 yessir, I mentioned that it was a model--and a really well-done one at that!
      It's not the resolution or graphics that I was referring to when I mentioned the mismatch; merely the timing and nature of the different versions (model vs. real footage, as shown here czcams.com/video/8WNk674LZrI/video.html and here czcams.com/video/8WNk674LZrI/video.html ; different angles for comparison).
      Still a truly excellent and carefully crafted model!
      Cheers!

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před rokem

      @@stanjohnson7754 - The only significant deviation from the real world event is a fraction of a second difference in timing of the buckling of 2 columns, which changes the visuals but is not otherwise significant. Same things still happen in the same order for the same result. Noobs get hung up on this because all they see is the superficial visuals, not the how and why. Again, its a model. Too many butterfly effects for any model to be a perfect match. The idea of a model is to get the mechanisms right.

    • @stanjohnson7754
      @stanjohnson7754 Před rokem +9

      @@MFitz12 structural engineers like me also get hung up on small differences, sometimes, because there are times where minutia matters.
      My primary reason for pointing out the difference between model and reality is that if people only ever see the model, they may get an inaccurate impression of the event. That's all.
      I think you're making a lot more out of my comments than is actually there. It's a very good model, and I've repeatedly said as much.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před rokem

      @@stanjohnson7754 - I agree. It is an excellent model. Also agree that people get hung up on the visuals at the very end, resulting in them completely ignoring everything that happens before that (all the important stuff) all the time.
      I just wanted to point out for anyone watching that models test mechanisms, they are not intended to be 100% accurate down to the last bolt artistic renderings. Indeed, can not not be.
      Quite a lot of folks don't get that either.

  • @michaelreece458
    @michaelreece458 Před 4 lety +158

    Excellent depiction! Bldg. 7 is often left out of the discussion but was in fact, a very large building, larger than the biggest buildings in most cities.

    • @-First-Last
      @-First-Last Před rokem +6

      Have you seen the Mickey Mouse too ?

    • @TheSecondWitness
      @TheSecondWitness Před rokem +22

      9-11 Math: 2 airplanes reduce 3 steel skyscrapers to rubble 🫤

    • @stevensgarage6451
      @stevensgarage6451 Před rokem +6

      It wasnt old either. They knew how to design fire safe high rises in 87.. Steel frame and fire retardant were no match for falling debris... Maybe they forgot to mention the "debris" was actually drums of jet fuel that kept select groups of floors burning long and hot enough to soften steel beams.. Shouldnt a fire coating, steal beams, modern construction, and limited fuel in office furnishings have saved it? Cant win them all.

    • @ironmatic1
      @ironmatic1 Před rokem +3

      @@TheSecondWitness Is this the best example you can come up with?

    • @subliminal6211
      @subliminal6211 Před rokem +34

      @@TheSecondWitness Ah yes 2 planes traveling at 430mph and 500mph fully loaded with fuel and weighing 450,000 pounds each couldn't possibly take down a building the was designed to be hit by smaller planes traveling at landing speeds, but we'll just chalk it up to an inside job using hundreds of pounds of explosives in two of the most heavily populated buildings in Manhattan and not a single person noticed. Seems logical 🙄

  • @HerbMoore3
    @HerbMoore3 Před 4 lety +39

    "I'm deleting comments that include hate speech, so you better think twice before starting an argument about the reasons of 9/11 here."
    Skepticism is now "hate speech"?!
    Bro, are you fkkng kidding?

    • @HerbMoore3
      @HerbMoore3 Před 4 lety +2

      I'm expecting some sort of ad hominem marxist reply... bring it.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 4 lety +2

      Skepticism is not hate speech. Why do you jump to that conclusion? Looking for an excuse to complain because you don't have a real one? Do you need some cheese to go with that whine? Better yet, do you have anything at all constructive to add to the discussion or are you just here for attention?

    • @HerbMoore3
      @HerbMoore3 Před 4 lety +1

      @@MFitz12 Are you confused?

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 4 lety

      @@HerbMoore3 Not even a little bit.

    • @Armuotas
      @Armuotas Před 4 lety

      Well, since when are you entitled to spew around the content or your brain unimpeded? It's this person's channel, and project, and s/he can deal with it as it is deemed necessary.

  • @tomholmes5259
    @tomholmes5259 Před 4 lety +11

    Hey Kostack Studio I wanted to ask if you used the real to life physics filters in Blender? Thanks for the answer.

    • @Jptoutant
      @Jptoutant Před rokem

      i think there are rigid body simulation in blender would need to verify

  • @silvertbird1
    @silvertbird1 Před 2 lety +2

    What does bother me is the lack of curiosity by government and media about Bldg. 7, because if it really did collapse due to fire then it needs to be studied and understood in it’s entirety, because there are thousands of similar buildings all around the world. Are they ticking time bombs? The fact that the debris was so quickly removed rather than retained and analyzed is also troubling.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 2 lety

      3 major engineering studies, about 2 dozen articles in peer reviewed engineering journals and it has (quite wrongly) been the primary obsession of the CT crowd for 15 years.
      In short, it's been done to death, quite the opposite of the lack of attention tou claim.

    • @downstream0114
      @downstream0114 Před rokem

      "Are they ticking time bombs?" High rise fires are typically fought.
      It wasn't feasible to fight the fires in 7 after the towers severed the water mains, so it was left to burn. Steel structures have a fire rating for how long they can withstand being on fire, firefighters of the FDNY knew 7 was unstable and expected it to collapse.

  • @jimmythompson6459
    @jimmythompson6459 Před 6 lety +59

    This looks nowhere near what happened that day. A computer model is in no way going to answer the questions, on both sides of the coin. Real-world experience cant be replicated like this. All your doing is trying to find something that can match as closely as possible the collapse of the building. Clutching at whatever straws u can doesn't mean anything. Until another highrise comes down to make a comparison well then it's not possible to happen the way u say.

    • @briancureton1385
      @briancureton1385 Před 6 lety

      Jimmy Thompson.
      You are braindead.
      CFD modelling is accurate you idiot.
      How do you think they build ANYTHING these days???🤔🤔🤔
      And another thing fudnut, YOU, ME and EVERYONE fucking else, ONLY saw the collapse from the outside ya plank.😂😂😂

    • @jimmythompson6459
      @jimmythompson6459 Před 6 lety +2

      Brian Cureton hmm let me see, u say everyone knows its accurate except braindead me, hmm ok so can u please point out the moment where it resembles what happened in reality? besides saying it collapsed and on the day it collapsed which is the only thing showing any similarity. Contents in each floor were disregarded and although having plenty of time and expertise on hand to painstakingly come up with a senario that fits they still couldn't come up with a match. If it is so clear in your mind that its right then your opinion and argument means absolutely nothing, just another dick with too much shit in your mouth. Why couldn't they come up with a simulation that matches if its so cut and dry? Why with repeated requests to see the data from this and the two towers was there a denial? National security? Haha a fucking joke, what by refusing the data does that achieve? its clear why it wasnt provided because u cant prove a lie, no matter how many dickheads like yourself shout and criticise it doesn't change the fact that it is a load of bullshit. The only thing that I enjoy with idiots like yourself is the blind denial that is astonishing it amazes me. How u and anyone can sit there look at all the events of that day and the subsequent massive amount of coincidences and 'firsts' and not c anything wrong or at least circumstances that by themselves warrant a new investigation is ridiculous but unfortunately there's too many fucking idiots like u that continually shit on all the families that want an investigation. U make me sick

    • @briancureton1385
      @briancureton1385 Před 6 lety

      Jimmy Thompson.
      What part of "CFD modelling" is too fucking complex for you to understand???.

    • @briancureton1385
      @briancureton1385 Před 6 lety

      Jimmy Thompson.
      Again I will repeat, the science PROVES itself ya halfwit.
      All you have is cognitive dissonance, based in your failure to understand basic physics and engineering.
      So if you are claiming to "not believe in physics and engineering", stop using whatever device to write your nonsense, get out of that house you live in that has been built using that very science and engineering you claim is false, and go live in the woods and whittle spoons out of wood for the rest of your days, you complete and utter idiot.😉😉😉

    • @harryheiniken5224
      @harryheiniken5224 Před 6 lety

      Oliver D This is the absolute dumbest comment I have come across to date. Tall steel framed buildings typically cannot fall over to the side very much because their connections would break before that happens.

  • @smiechu47
    @smiechu47 Před 5 lety +34

    Apparently the outside plaster was the strongest part of the building 😂

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 5 lety +1

      No plaster on the outside of the building. It was a moment frame.

    • @rinse-esnir4010
      @rinse-esnir4010 Před 5 lety

      The outer structure indeed was the strongest part.
      It's a tube in a tube construction.

    • @stevensgarage6451
      @stevensgarage6451 Před rokem

      @@rinse-esnir4010 Office furnishings burned so hot it went clean through the retardant before morphing into a raging jet fuel fire that burned long and hot that thermal expansion ripped the steel floor from the steel frame. It just happened to be where the feds store a lot of files and offsite backups. No injuries and the office was at 50% capacity. At least they properly evacuated the building before igniting whatever fuel was used.

    • @rinse-esnir4010
      @rinse-esnir4010 Před rokem

      @@stevensgarage6451 What jet fuel are you talking about?

  • @FreedomExperiment
    @FreedomExperiment Před 3 lety +5

    This does not include the 'inner core' of the building where the elevator and stairwells would be. These areas are heavily reinforced as part of the building structure but are absent in the shown video

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 3 lety

      Are you blind? Of course it does! Holy shit, how can you miss that. The above model is absolutely accurate. And no, the elevators and stairwells were not "heavily reinforced", whatever the eff you mean by that.
      ALL STEEL FRAMING.
      Let that sink in. ALL STEEL FRAMING, as in ABSOLUTELY NO LOAD BEARING CONCRETE. The only thing surrounding the stairwells and elevator shafts was gypsum board drywall. Learn to read a blueprint sometime.

    • @FreedomExperiment
      @FreedomExperiment Před 3 lety +2

      @@MFitz12 Are you blind? This inaccurate model is obviously ridiculous. There were clearly not massive fires in this building to cause this freefall collapse with everything crumbling to dust against the path of most resistance. I bet you think the nearly freefall collapse of the twin towers against the path of most resistance makes seems as well.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 3 lety +1

      @@FreedomExperiment - You just engaged in that classic conspiracy believer internet debate tactic; the deliberately evasive off-topic derail. What, you didn't think I would notice how you - aware at some level you were going to lose the argument utterly but unwilling to man up and admit it - completely abandoned every single point you made in your OP. That by the why I will accept as your tacit acknowledgement of your errors and complete acceptance of my accurate descriptions - those points now no longer open for discussion.
      Your welcome.
      Now that you understand Building 7 was an entirely steel framed structure and there was no "reinforced" whatever in the central core column section, how do you plan to incorporate those new true and relevant facts into your hypothesis and how will those changes effect your conclusions?

    • @-First-Last
      @-First-Last Před rokem

      @@MFitz12
      You :
      " - The steel in none of the buildings wasn't melted like butter so I don't need to explain anything about things that did not happen."
      ......
      "I am more than happy to discuss actual true and relevant facts but there isn't even a place to begin here. You are so not even wrong the only recourse is for you to completely forget everything you think you know and start over clean slate."
      So what was that bright orange LIQUID FLOW ???
      Let's "start over clean slate"
      You might not know the meaning of words. That would be a very long way to bring yourself up to date, to the rest of the people's universal understanding of them. Assuming you went already to those years of school. (or maybe not ?)

  • @lynxbelow6922
    @lynxbelow6922 Před rokem +2

    Your collapse model no way resembles the actual footage, from any angle. Especially the colossal chunks leftover in the rubble. From every angle it's seen at, a perfectly fine building sinks into the earth and becomes so much powder and steel fragments.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před rokem

      Actually its almost dead on except for a few minor details.

  • @DarelGabriel
    @DarelGabriel Před 2 lety +10

    It's amazing what the failure of one steel column can do.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 2 lety

      Depends on the column but yes.

    • @jimbarron8688
      @jimbarron8688 Před rokem +2

      There are contradictory simulations that imply the column connections from 7 floors would have to be removed to have a collapse as seen on 9-11.

    • @kodowdus
      @kodowdus Před rokem +3

      In fact, Professor of Civil Engineering J. Leroy Hulsey at the University of Alaska led a 4-year (2015-2019) investigation titled "A Structural Reevaluation of the Collapse of World Trade Center 7" which concluded thar "the collapse of WTC 7 was a global failure involving the near-simultaneous failure of every column in the building".

    • @MrDefreese
      @MrDefreese Před rokem

      @@kodowdus his 'analysis' is deeply flawed. Don't try to cherry pick just to conform to a preconceived ideology. All of the buildings around the twin towers were badly damaged; all of the WTC buildings were destroyed with varying degrees of full collapse or structural compromise.
      This fetish about WTC is either dogmatic ignorance or deliberate, evil dishonesty.

    • @downstream0114
      @downstream0114 Před rokem +1

      @@kodowdus Funding: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth
      I could've told you what they'd find from that alone.

  • @jaspernewcomb5656
    @jaspernewcomb5656 Před 2 lety +72

    You can never lie your way out of a lie no matter how well each new lie is crafted.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 2 lety +4

      Tell that to Trump.

    • @jaspernewcomb5656
      @jaspernewcomb5656 Před 2 lety +3

      @@MFitz12 why is Trump your Idol?

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 2 lety

      @@jaspernewcomb5656 Just stating the obvious fact the man lies professionally and makes it work. Conspiracy believers love the shit out of that guy because he is just like them.

    • @fukyutube2279
      @fukyutube2279 Před rokem

      @@MFitz12 is a paid shill sponsored by Larry Silverstein's dermatologist to be here. Don't argue with this CIA BOT.

    • @dallassegno
      @dallassegno Před rokem +2

      hahaha that robot really loves trump

  • @Krust29
    @Krust29 Před 5 lety +37

    Seems accurate, if the building was constructed from tin and cardboard. . . . .

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 5 lety +1

      It is and it wasn't.

    • @Louderboy.
      @Louderboy. Před 3 lety +1

      Everyone who says that was a Explosion haven't think about the fact that the fire took a lot of the load capacity. Over the half of it i guess almost 70%

    • @darkmath100
      @darkmath100 Před 3 lety

      @@MFitz12 Sorry but the juries back and NIST's version of events is impossible. See the documentary Seven, based on findings of a structural engineer at the U of Alaska.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 3 lety +1

      @@darkmath100 - You are wrong again, but who cares. The Kostack model has nothing to do with NIST. You are engaging in that classic conspiracy believer tactic of internet debate trickery when losing an argument - the deliberately off-topic evasive derail.
      And oh yeah, the Hulsey model was a money making scam, quite useless as actual science, explaining why AE911T are monetizing it on CZcams and Amazon Prime instead of presenting it to knowledgeable, professional audiences like they promised. You've been had.
      But again, off topic here. We're talking about the Kostack model.

    • @darkmath100
      @darkmath100 Před 3 lety

      @@MFitz12 Building 7 didn't lean when it fell as this simulation does at 2:37. Check out the original: czcams.com/video/PK_iBYSqEsc/video.html

  • @FujikkoJP
    @FujikkoJP Před 11 měsíci +2

    *Nobody has a picture of wtc 7 from the inside.*

  • @jonnekjonneksson
    @jonnekjonneksson Před 3 lety +25

    The simulation is not accurate, the building hadn't leaned at all while collapsing.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 3 lety +5

      That isn't the building. That is an empty shell, the exterior moment frame. The building long gone before it drops. Its all right there. Pay attention.

    • @jonnekjonneksson
      @jonnekjonneksson Před 3 lety +7

      @@MFitz12 Your comment doesn't make any sense and don't match to what I've posted. Pay attention to what exactly, to your incongruousness?

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 3 lety +6

      @@jonnekjonneksson My comment makes perfect sense, you just don't understand what you are looking at. Go to the end of the collapse. The main load bearing structures - the core and floors and most of the perimeter columns (in other words, the building) are gone. All that is left is a hollow shell - the exterior moment frame. That is not the building, just a hollow shell that used to cover the building. You are complaining a flimsy hollow shell leans to much like that is in any way important. ITS A HOLLOW SHELL!!!!

    • @Aldaris1234567
      @Aldaris1234567 Před 3 lety

      @@MFitz12 No, it definitely makes no sense. The building absolutely was still there.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 3 lety +4

      @@Aldaris1234567 Again, a hollow shell (nothing remaining inside) is not a building or THE building by any stretch of the imagination.

  • @l3g3ndarycanary51
    @l3g3ndarycanary51 Před 5 lety +9

    Can you make a simulation on BBC news live broadcasting WTC 7 while it was still standing,announcing it has fallen also 15mins prior to it actually happening.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 5 lety +2

      It's right here: czcams.com/video/zZrlNw-31R8/video.html

    • @helmedon
      @helmedon Před 5 lety

      Yeah, because news outlets based in the UK are the best test for what's happening in NY. And of course the know each building's number designation and of course reporters NEVER make mistakes. Someone reported a small plane crashing into the towers too. Hell, the reporters reporting it live didn't know what was going on. Most were depending on phone calls from individuals "near" the area. The first responders didn't even know all of what was happening. But yeah, the BBC claiming a building that was severely damaged and in danger of collapse, then another BBC station claiming the same thing, then another one saying it HAD collapsed, then another one repeating that information....all with only one person on the ground and not really close that was second handing info he was hearing from other networks in the first place. Yep, sounds legit...here read this you ignorant fucker.
      www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2007/03/part_of_the_conspiracy_2.html#sa-link_location=story-body&intlink_from_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.com%2Fnews%2Fblogs-trending-42195513&intlink_ts=1559527805601-sa

  • @ericbartol
    @ericbartol Před 5 lety +4

    It's amazing that 3 buildings in a densely populated area of skyscrapers came down pretty much in their footprints. What are the odds?

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 5 lety +1

      Footprint of one tower = 1 acre. Footprint of debris pile = 16 acres. Do the math.

    • @AAAAAAAAA7248
      @AAAAAAAAA7248 Před rokem

      Dude look up how many buildings were either destroyed in the immediate collapse or subsequently demolished. At least 2 additional buildings outside the WTC plaza no longer exist anymore due to the attacks

    • @stanjohnson7754
      @stanjohnson7754 Před rokem +1

      The odds are directly correlated with the amount of money spent on telling the story.

    • @ericbartol
      @ericbartol Před rokem

      @@AAAAAAAAA7248 Did I fucking say 'exactly in their footprint?'

    • @AAAAAAAAA7248
      @AAAAAAAAA7248 Před rokem

      @@ericbartol nah but it’s always better to nip the bud before you start spouting the rest of your degenerate shit

  • @samusvi2693
    @samusvi2693 Před 2 lety +2

    that building collapsed better than some controlled demolitions. it came down perfectly. just look at videos of it. i cannot blame people for wondering what really happened

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 2 lety

      Define "perfectly".

    • @samusvi2693
      @samusvi2693 Před 2 lety

      @@MFitz12 lol, i am sure you do not know what a woman is either way too funny

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 2 lety

      @@samusvi2693 - Deliberately evasive derail noted. Now please answer the question or admit you can't. Thank you.

  • @mikeh3084
    @mikeh3084 Před 3 lety +11

    This video shows a controlled detonation plain and simple. Smoke and mirrors, I wouldn't be surprised that while all the focus was on Towers 1&2, the GOLD was being removed from Building 7!

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 3 lety +1

      How did you reach that conclusion?

    • @mikeh3084
      @mikeh3084 Před 3 lety +2

      @@MFitz12 Can three Buildings collapse in on themselves in almost the exact same way on the same day?
      What could someone gain from such an operation?
      If you wanted to steal millions and get away with it, how could you do it?
      How long would you need to plan it?
      Would your greed stop there? Or would you want to gain more through certain events unfolding that would influence the NYSE?
      Has anyone released proof that all money was accounted for? Or do we just take their word for it?
      9/11- A multi phased plan of deceit and murder.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 3 lety +1

      @@mikeh3084 - What the hell kind of question is that? A million buildings can collapse in on themselves in almost the same exact manner on the same day if the circumstances are right. Its not like there is some sort of arbitrary cap on these things. Not that it matters since even three Buildings DID NOT collapse in on themselves in almost the exact same way on the same day.
      Not even close.
      You are making false technical claims because you think that will bolster your political agenda.
      It doesn't. Never does.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 3 lety +1

      @@mikeh3084 - Now then, if we could get back to it; What IN THIS MODEL shows any sort of detonation?
      I would submit that - like everyone else of your ilk - you completely missed the fact no collapse initiating mechanism is shown. Nada. Zip. Zilch. zero. Not a chance you figure out the implications for what that actually means, bleeding obvious as they are.

    • @mikeh3084
      @mikeh3084 Před 3 lety +1

      @@MFitz12 So you believe 3 buildings suffered the failures where as only 2 were struck by aircraft and numerous firefighters and experts say there is no way Building 7 collapsed due to a simple fire. Keep in mind engineers took into account in the design of WTC for them to be able to withstand a plane strike. Your tbeory of opinion holds no water with millions upon millions my friend nor with me, you will not change my mind and do not care for the opinion of someone who is biased or naive. 3 Buildings, 2 planes, yet all fell into their own footprint? I'm to believe that? No thank you.

  • @victoriamartinelli8018
    @victoriamartinelli8018 Před 7 lety +51

    This is what the building "should have done" but clearly it did not fall like this

    • @lex.cordis
      @lex.cordis Před 6 lety +4

      Hey, Weasel: tinyurl.com/kostackisfullofshit-png
      You were saying?

    • @lex.cordis
      @lex.cordis Před 6 lety +6

      The left is a screenshot from the video you are currently on. The right is footage from the ACTUAL collapse of WTC 7, sourced from the video "WTC 7 23 angles" here on CZcams. It's not edited. I am illustrating the point that this "simulation" is intentionally misleading, and FAR from being even close to accurate to what happened in reality. You have to be delusional to think there is ANY resemblance. I urge any onlookers reading this, to simply look up the footage of the collapse, and see for yourself. You'll see that I am right, and Kostack and 12weasel100 are bold-faced LIARS.

    • @debrajbush
      @debrajbush Před 6 lety +3

      steel buildings don't fall down without some "heavy duty" explosives ... thermite for example ..

    •  Před 6 lety

      12weasel100 you must hate physics do you.? haha the building didn‘t even fall like that you idiot.

    • @connerprice2768
      @connerprice2768 Před 6 lety +1

      Alain Demren Wrong. The buildong fell the north face tilted slightly to the north and the South face slightly to the South

  • @enmenduranna4552
    @enmenduranna4552 Před rokem +10

    The probability of a forty-seven-story building collapsing directly onto its own foundations at the speed of free fall due to localized fires caused by burning paper is zero.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před rokem +2

      Not sure how you arrived at that conclusion but no matter since that isn't what happened anyway.

    • @joshd3192
      @joshd3192 Před rokem +2

      Where is your structural engineering degree?

    • @waspanimations7037
      @waspanimations7037 Před rokem +2

      @@joshd3192 It's right from the University of Facebook

    • @waspanimations7037
      @waspanimations7037 Před rokem +1

      I like everything you said didn't happen

  • @007_TheWatcher
    @007_TheWatcher Před rokem +66

    I was watching these events as they happened and recall when a NYC government official (accidentally?) said live on air in an interview with the media that they were going to "pull" building 7. Although I have occasionally seen references to this incident, it sure seems that follow-up should have been undertaken in its regard, like posing the question "What exactly did you mean when you said: 'We're going to pull building 7?'.

    • @NewJeffersonian
      @NewJeffersonian Před rokem +6

      Search this on CZcams:
      9/11 Bombshell: CNBC Anchor Says Building 7 a 'Controlled Implosion'
      I would post a direct link but that would get shadow-banned just as this post very likely will, so I recommend you check it out soon.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před rokem +3

      None of that was accurate.

    • @dr.emilschaffhausen4683
      @dr.emilschaffhausen4683 Před rokem +21

      Pull it in this context means get the firefighters out.

    • @mooneyes2k478
      @mooneyes2k478 Před rokem +7

      @@NewJeffersonian Saying nonsense won't get you "shadow-banned", no matter HOW much of a martyr-complex you have. Nor does repeating that nonsense.

    • @Acemechanicalservices
      @Acemechanicalservices Před rokem +5

      @@MFitz12
      You didn’t know Larry Silverstein was the vice chancellor of nyc?

  • @bimbobimbo3204
    @bimbobimbo3204 Před 5 lety +25

    After watching this video, I’m never going. Into any building that’s more than. One storey, it’s like legos in a cardboard box

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 5 lety +4

      That is decidedly the wrong reaction.

    • @maninbots2601
      @maninbots2601 Před 3 lety +2

      So ur not going into ur house?

    • @brotherray85
      @brotherray85 Před 3 lety +1

      I’ll never forget the day I trusted a building to stand up

    • @jmjpainter
      @jmjpainter Před 3 lety +3

      Funny how never in history a steel building ever fell because of fire but we had 3 that day 😏

  • @Meowface.
    @Meowface. Před 3 lety +95

    I recently saw a video I hadn't seen before
    Of building 7, you could see the roof collapsing into the building before the entire thing fell
    So the internal structure was coming apart before any collapse
    I've seen some pictures of the other side of the building, the side damaged by the collapsing world trade buildings
    It was hit by a lot of debris
    Entire side was missing basically

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 3 lety +3

      The internal structure collapsing WAS the collapse.

    • @Meowface.
      @Meowface. Před 3 lety +18

      @@MFitz12 right... I mean as opposed to the controlled demolition theory

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 3 lety +2

      @@Meowface. There is no controlled demolition theory. Never rises to that level.

    • @newjeffersonian6456
      @newjeffersonian6456 Před 3 lety +19

      @@MFitz12
      The sounds of explosions all day in Building 7 . . . FDNY firefighters saying they will "have to bring the building down" and "Keep your eye on that building. It'll be coming down" . . . NYPD officer at Building 7 telling bystanders "The building is about to blow up, move it back" . . . CNBC financial anchor Ron Insana talking about Building 7 in a WABC radio interview and saying "So they did manage for one to take that down in a controlled implosion later on" . . . Numerous commentators stating on air that the collapse of Building 7 was exactly like a planned implosion.
      No, nothing at all to support a controlled demolition theory. All just a fanciful fiction made up by some misguided people called . . . well, you know what we're called. Let's see you try to refute this with some facts instead of your typical baseless blather.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 3 lety +13

      @@newjeffersonian6456 - Well, little if any of that is true and any that is, not relevant. But you keep trying. Maybe someday you can come up with an argument that has not already failed a thousand times before. Good luck with that.

  • @dandymas
    @dandymas Před 5 lety +11

    The building collapsed on its vertical axis at a speed close to free fall.
    Nice try, but (unfortunately) it didn't work that way.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 5 lety

      Close to free fall? How close? Why do we care? How does how fast something falls inform you as to what started it falling?

    • @Viggebob
      @Viggebob Před 5 lety +2

      @@MFitz12 cauz its physics. Physics are just basic of every fuckin machine you get served with.

    • @dustinhase23
      @dustinhase23 Před 5 lety +2

      @@Viggebob This! The rate of fall is critical to identifying the proper failure mode, as well as symmetry and failure sequence.
      A building with structure under it cannot accelerate at free fall. A building with floor connections failing would pull the exterior face inward and damage it. You would see glass popping out in synchronicity with the floor failures.

    • @heavymaskinen
      @heavymaskinen Před 5 lety +1

      The total collapse was much longer than a free fall. At one point the perimeter wall (as observed from a distance on a VHS recording) descends at an acceleration around (and exceeding!) g (9.82 m/s) - that's it.

    • @dandymas
      @dandymas Před 5 lety

      heavymaskinen
      Take a look here.
      Steel buildings simply do not collapse due to fires. That’s it.
      czcams.com/video/v8D7VeRXZrU/video.html

  • @daizyflower272
    @daizyflower272 Před rokem +8

    Yes, it killed itself. Reporters knew how it felt and they reported it coming down before the building collapsed. All those documents came down and burnt as well, poor building, rip.

  • @ThaJoshynator
    @ThaJoshynator Před 4 lety +13

    Hi, can we see a simulation where you remove every vertical support column from the bottom 9 floors?

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 4 lety

      Why? That isn't what happened. The bottom 7 floors aren't even the same building.

    • @ThaJoshynator
      @ThaJoshynator Před 4 lety

      @@MFitz12 I just wanna see what that would look like

    • @KaiKostack
      @KaiKostack  Před 4 lety +6

      It's easy to predict what would happen: The building would fall as a whole intact structure until it hits the ground, however, this also means that the penthouse wouldn't collapse first anymore.

    • @ThaJoshynator
      @ThaJoshynator Před 4 lety +12

      @@KaiKostack Have you considered the possibility that the NIST collapse theory is wrong and that's why you're having such a hard time creating a simulation that looks like what actually happened?

    • @jefferypinley4336
      @jefferypinley4336 Před 3 lety +2

      @@ThaJoshynator after watching all the simulations, including NIST's, it's painfully obvious that structural failure is a joke. University of Alaska Fairbanks recently did a report on this and found the only way to model the traits of the collapse (symmetric free fall for 2.8s), requires the near instantaneous failure of every support column of at least 8 floors

  • @Markswean
    @Markswean Před 3 lety +25

    Is quite curious that the three buildings fall down in a similar way, but for different reasons...

    • @Gnarly_sheen
      @Gnarly_sheen Před 3 lety +8

      By different way you of course mean structural damage and fire, they also had the same basic open floor truss system.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 3 lety +2

      The Twin Towers collapses are similar although there are significant differences. But of course, they were identical designs and suffered similar (but not identical) damage. Building 7's collapse could not have been more different from the Twin Towers.

    • @fightzombie229
      @fightzombie229 Před 3 lety +7

      @@MFitz12 Yes it could've. It fell right into it's footprints like the towers did. No other skyscraper in history has done that and collapsed in a similar fashion from a fire.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 3 lety +5

      @@fightzombie229- You have obviously never looked at an overhead shot of Ground Zero. 3 buildings each with a 1 acre footprint create a 16 acre debris pile.
      But each collapsed within its own footprint.
      Your math does not add up.
      Then there is the whole obvious "first time in history"' logical fallacy thing that isn't even a true fact. Do we really need to go there too?

    • @nahuel6246
      @nahuel6246 Před 3 lety

      @@fightzombie229 buildings tend to collapse like that because the force of gravity is greater than the rotational force that would make a building fall sideways.

  • @jamiereilley9145
    @jamiereilley9145 Před 5 lety +12

    That's not how it fell at all. It fell straight down.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 5 lety

      ... while twisting into an S shape and leaning to the south.

    • @jamiereilley9145
      @jamiereilley9145 Před 5 lety

      @@MFitz12 It didn't start to lean south until a 1/4 of the building had already collapsed, this animation shows it happen instantly. All three buildings were demolished, and not by fires. Learn to accept truth.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 5 lety

      @@jamiereilley9145 - The entire core of the building had collapsed before the exterior moment frame - now totally unsupported and completely unable to stand on its own - dropped. The core is a lot more than 1/4. But lets go back to the top, you said "it fell straight down". Now you admit it (the exterior moment frame) did not. None of that has anything to do with who did what. Learn to accept the truth.

  • @woobykal68
    @woobykal68 Před rokem +2

    What is amazing is how a couple of office fires can bring down a whole building.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před rokem

      Not amazing. Fire destroys tens of thousands of buildings every year. Only conspiracy believing morons don't seem to grasp that bit of bleeding obvious. Human beings get it.

    • @TheItalianTrash
      @TheItalianTrash Před rokem

      Minor office fires? The entire south side of WTC 7 was engulfed in a raging inferno. This video shows the extent of damage just a couple hours before collapse.
      czcams.com/video/Afb7eUHr64U/video.html

  • @moehoffman9830
    @moehoffman9830 Před 5 lety +129

    Wow a simulator of falling castle of cards!

    • @markgramm8448
      @markgramm8448 Před 5 lety +2

      exactly

    • @4465Vman
      @4465Vman Před 5 lety +5

      indeed!! not a huge cage of thousands of tons of structural steel, but rather...cards!!!

    • @Inkulabi
      @Inkulabi Před 5 lety +3

      interesting how the facade wasnt pulled down by other stwel members but the interior just fell apart

  • @noobsaibot5285
    @noobsaibot5285 Před 6 lety +4

    How did you initiate the collapse?

  • @giuseppersa2391
    @giuseppersa2391 Před rokem +11

    This will always be an inside job in my mind.

    • @beru_official
      @beru_official Před rokem +1

      ok prove to me how you can wire a building with dynamite enough dynamite to bring it down and nobody see you doing it. Not maintenance not security nobody. And nobody see a bomb strapped to a building joint and call the cops.

    • @hootinouts
      @hootinouts Před rokem +3

      @@beru_official What is to prove? The way the structure collapsed speaks for itself.

  • @BMWM5E39
    @BMWM5E39 Před 2 lety +3

    Can you add some thermite to the simulation on the strategic joints? Would be interesting to see.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 2 lety

      So you can watch nothing happen? Sounds boring.

    • @noelwallace5257
      @noelwallace5257 Před rokem

      @@MFitz12 Explain the photos of the WTC core column cut at 45 degrees at ground level …. Melted with thermite ?
      Pictures readily available, they even have it on display in the WTC Meuse!!

  • @rusrad74
    @rusrad74 Před 7 lety +8

    So unless I have missed something here, Im interested in what ssimulated action you used to initiate/catalyse the collapse? Did you remove column 79? Buckle it, or slide it away from its initial connection? or something else?
    Also Im interested if you have seen the UAF report on WTC7 2017?

    • @KaiKostack
      @KaiKostack  Před 7 lety +3

      Horizontal and vertical connections around columns 79 to 81 were weakened in this simulation to enforce the collapse.
      I'm aware of the UAF report and while I acknowledge their efforts to do further research on the matter, I don't think they can reach their target to ultimately prove that fire wasn't the cause. Maybe NIST didn't determine the correct point of initial failure but this doesn't rule out fire. Don't have to high hopes for revolutionary new insights from their work.

    • @rusrad74
      @rusrad74 Před 7 lety +6

      "Horizontal and vertical connections around columns 79 to 81 were weakened in this simulation to enforce the collapse" - Ok I appreciate your reply, but that to me is consigned to the values and tolerances of your software, which 'could' be way off reality and 'could' essentially mean anything.
      I have used 3DS Max since 2003 so have some insight into these processes!
      "I'm aware of the UAF report " - Ok but you havent taken the time to watch the presentation, and yet you say "Don't have to high hopes for revolutionary new insights" Hmm why would you dismiss them so quickly? Do you think they would have a motive to lie?
      "Maybe NIST didn't determine the correct point of initial failure" The NIST model is an absolute joke and barely resembles reality, and they said fire alone was the cause!! What do you think?
      Obviously no-one can recreate the event to 100% accuracy, but curious to know if you think your model would be more technically accurate that the UAF one? because your sim although very impressive still does not resemble how the actual footage shows, the corners and the roofline are a big problem here!!! and im no technical slouch, I just cannot find any other way of explaining this other than CD.
      Peace

    • @-First-Last
      @-First-Last Před rokem

      It's just a cartoon.

    • @kodowdus
      @kodowdus Před rokem +1

      The 4-year investigation (2015-2019) led by Professor of Civil Engineering J. Leroy Hulsey at the University of Alaska titled "A Structural Reevaluation of the Collapse of World Trade Center 7" ultimately concluded that "the collapse of WTC 7 was a global failure involving the near-simultaneous failure of every column in the building".

    • @-First-Last
      @-First-Last Před rokem

      @@kodowdus And one have to be naive to believe it (if not stupid).

  • @prestonw.coleman4990
    @prestonw.coleman4990 Před 5 lety +11

    No matter how many investigations of all types won't change the fact that innocent lives were destroyed, Families torn apart, planned futures, dreams and hopes gone because of hate, power and money. God bless you all and stay safe. ✌

    • @gustavo.henri2
      @gustavo.henri2 Před 3 lety

      @catlover2543 i agree with you 100% but if we are just "good vibes" and stuff we will never know the real truth, it's like, I'm sorry for the lives lost but i WHY did it happened, but i still agree with you though

    • @jonahmoran3751
      @jonahmoran3751 Před 2 lety

      @@gustavo.henri2 but the official investigation is most likely correct due to Occam’s razor

  • @user-yn9mp4bt3q
    @user-yn9mp4bt3q Před 5 lety +7

    Blender is great free software but this is a terrible attempt at wtc 7 collapse simulation.

  • @ayrton56612
    @ayrton56612 Před rokem +4

    The outer structure fell way more straight then shown here.

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před rokem

      Yeah, but since that happened at the very end it doesn't change anything.

  • @michaelkwiatkowski1707
    @michaelkwiatkowski1707 Před 5 lety +79

    I prefer watch Roadrunner animation ..beep beep

  • @-First-Last
    @-First-Last Před 2 lety +3

    @4:00 We can see you placed the charges on floor 2 and 3 in the middle of the building. Where else ?
    Which controlled demolition company is this ?

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 2 lety +2

      There are no charges. The model is in fact completely agnostic as to collapse initiation mechanisms.

    • @-First-Last
      @-First-Last Před 2 lety

      @@MFitz12 So what you are trying to suggest is completely absurd if there is no initiation of ANY collapsing. Wow ...

    • @MFitz12
      @MFitz12 Před 2 lety

      @@-First-Last - Basic English comprehension not your strong suit I see.
      Try again, slowly this time;
      There are no charges. The model is in fact completely agnostic as to collapse initiation mechanisms.
      That statement is a true fact.
      No collapse initiator is specified in the Kostack model.
      There is no fire.
      There are no explosives.
      There is no termite.
      There is no corrosion.
      There is no metal fatigue.
      There are no midgets with saws.
      Paul Bunyon and his Big Blue Ox did not sit on the building, overloading the structure.
      Godzilla did not stomp on it or melt it with his atomic breath.
      One critical core column is failed. That's it. what caused it to fail is not important, only that it failed. From that initial failure there is an inevitable progression to total collapse REGARDLESS OF WHAT CAUSED THE INITIAL FAILURE. From the point where collapse is initiated all the way through the progression stage the collapse is near-as-makes-no-difference a dead ringer for the real world event. The same progression of failures occur in both.
      The ramifications of this should not need to be explained but I suspect I will need to anyway.
      Not sure how many more breadcrumbs I can leave than that.

    • @-First-Last
      @-First-Last Před rokem +2

      @@MFitz12
      Yuuuuu Huuuuu .... Mr. Fritzzzzz !
      You didn't said anything yet about this :
      "Probably the better question is why do you think the steel in all 3 buildings was melted like butter, with many beams left with holes which look like Swiss cheese. How do you explain steel being melted by office fires? Also how do you explain complete and catastrophic failure of all 3 buildings, all collapsing at free fall speed. Or beams being ejected straight out from the sides of the buildings at 70 mph with one end burning and leaving a smoke plume from it's still burning end? Or the enormous temperatures recorded 3 months after the collapse directly under the piles of buildings? Explain those and then we can move onto some more questions "
      Crickets ???

    • @rickdeckardbladerunner2049
      @rickdeckardbladerunner2049 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@-First-Lastexactly! No black boxes recovered from all 4 planes! Mic drop!

  • @eljosafatespinoso3087
    @eljosafatespinoso3087 Před 4 lety +51

    Faker than Israel wanting world peace.
    Oh but I mean the official theory, the simulation wasn't bad animated bro🙂

    • @KaiKostack
      @KaiKostack  Před 4 lety +15

      Thanks, you are also not bad at writing antisemitic hate comments, bro.

    • @politicamenteincorrecto3425
      @politicamenteincorrecto3425 Před 4 lety +12

      @@KaiKostack You are welcome.
      And I knew it, unlike what the description says, your interpretation makes it a bit evident that indeed your video is meant to feed disproval for "conspiracy theories", if it comes from somebody that interprets my comment like that.
      Your interpretation is just way too stereotipical (not to say also old fashion), judging as antisemitic a comment that rather has political backgrounds, not religious. It's actually refering to the "state" of Israel and it's foreign policies which according to some "conspiracis theories" (topic YOU bring up yourself in the description, also f you say it's "not your intention") has a lot to do with such event.
      So, what a pity bro, the ghost of "antisemitism" is just in your mind, it came from your interpretation.
      Way to stereotipical, bet your logic also tells you every german is nazj just for being german, any chinese guy is some evil comnunist just for being chinese, and every muslim is extremist just for being muslim ¬¬
      Not interested in hate speech btw, also not adding further comments after this one if you think it's hate speech, but if it is hate speech, once again description aint very honest, because hey! my "hate" comment is still there!... oh but wait, you blocked me there, so you can have the last word and set up an ideologic show..
      Oh right! thats why!
      Guess it's a matter of perspective, I mean that comment as political sarcasm. And fits to the context of other comments and even your description.
      Greetings.

    • @eljosafatespinoso3087
      @eljosafatespinoso3087 Před 4 lety

      @12weasel100 theres no point in asking me anything as long as the channel keep censoring me. Decididing what will be seen and what will not. I actually already replied to him, explaining your query BUT the guy doesnt want his answer to be proven wrong.
      *Testing if this message will finally be accepted*

    • @eljosafatespinoso3087
      @eljosafatespinoso3087 Před 4 lety +7

      First of all, my comment has political background. And is related to the conspiracies theories, I see that topic ain't censored in the comments.
      And I repeat, political! Speaking about the state! I said ISRAEL! not religious or racist..
      What a pity, but that came out of Kostack Studio mind, just for the fact he understood it like that.
      In the case of 12weasel I understand the confusion made by his interpretation.
      I dont see anybody ever judging anybody of "racist" if you critizice Russia, or Germany, or the United Kingdom..
      Oh but wait, nobody can critize Israel!!! Why would that be?????

    • @eljosafatespinoso3087
      @eljosafatespinoso3087 Před 4 lety +6

      @12weasel100 uhm.. hello? Middle east? Whos interests were pushed after this event?
      Who is the biggest ally of the U.S in their agresive foreign policies like the ones in middle east?
      Agenda that got actively triggered after these events? Uh?
      And its totally worth mentioning, since it's been very recent the news of something ridiculous called "deal of the century" or something like that.
      And you wanna speak about education to me lol
      It's already too ignorant how you tried to lead these matters into "racism".
      Not surprised since that's the best you got when you don't know anymore how to justify getting involved with criminal deeds in lands where the U.S wasn't even invited and which remains half a planet away from them.